we've seen members of the african union or urged the i.c.c. to dismiss charges against omar bashir the president of sudan but the fact that the african nation is that a tension has emerged and doesn't necessarily impugn the quality of the justice. that the i.c.c. is dispensing what i think it does it redoubles the necessity for the i.c.c. to emerge as a court which deals with. human rights abuses in war crimes in theatres all over the world not simply those in africa but at the foot aren't there you see it moving in that direction studies racial and if you're not against it it's going in that direction that all any evidence. well i think the evidence would be i mean right now we have ad hoc tribunals that were established to deal for example with. war crimes crimes against humanity genocide in the balkans if such an institution had not been created on the ad hoc basis by the un security council and had that kind of event unfolded more recently rather than back in the nine hundred ninety s. i think we would have very much seen that type of disp

the chairman of the african union arrived on sunday, urging an end to the fighting. the president said he is willing to attend without conditions. rebel spokesmen sounded more cautious, saying he took note of the president's latest offer, but the rebels do not want to join the government. earlier, they refused to rule out an advance on the capital and said that president >> do not miss "american coup." >> welcome back. let's remind a of the top stories. iraq's prime minister -- remind you of the top stories. iraq's prime minister -- a series of explosions have killed at least 10 people across iraq? -- iraq. democrats and republicans cannot agree on how to deal with the extensive spending cuts and tax rises. it could force the country back into recession. the president of the central african republic says he is ready to form a coalition government with the rebels. bozize made the announcement as fighters advanced closer to the capital. north korea's leader has congratulated scientists and technicians involved in the launch of a rocket. state television broadcast pictu

envoy and african union envoy. the purpose should be clear to present international stakeholders towards a unified policy to address all aspects of this regional crisis. also what did she miss a second letter to be sent to president obama and secretary clinton signed the organizations including africa faith and justice that were, global witness, open society foundations, refugees and among many others. point for special envoys, global leadership to engage constructively in the political process. thank you and a look for today's testimony. >> and the other panelists? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to raise a point. throughout the conflict the mines remain open. minerals, gems, rare earths provides financing for the conflict. it's a motivation for a great deal of it. who's buying this material and what do we know about the chain of dollars in material on an international basis? is there anything we or the u.n. or the african union are doing to choke this off? >> i now introduce or witnessed in the u.s. depa

they also want further talks with the african union. the army was forced to retreat as the rebels advanced. the former israeli foreign minister has been indicted for a breach of trust down fraud. he resigned early this month. he denies the accusations and says he will run in the upcoming elections in january but he will be forced to quit if a court barring some guilty. 30 muslims in iraq are continuing demonstrations against the shiia-led government. they are reducing the iraqi government of discriminating against sunnis. what the demands of the protesters here can be evidenced behind me. they want an end to the policy of the government's of the policies. they want the release of female presidents and they want to and demoralization of sunnis in iraq. they denied all of the allegations saying activities should not be held and they should be held responsible for their own facts. they will be looking into the issues and when it comes to the finance minister, the rule of law should save the body guards that were arrested have confessed to

envoy and african union envoy. the purposes of these roles should be clear: to present a group of or international stakeholders that can provide critical and balanced political pressure toward a unified policy to address all aspects of this crisis. also worth mentioning is a second later signed by organizations including africa faith and justice network, the enough project, global witness, open society foundations, refugees international among many others. in addition to calling for special envoys, this group boldly calls for global leadership to engage constructively in a comprehensive political process. thank you, and i look forward to today's testimonies. >> thank you very much, my friend be, ms. bass. any other panelists like to make an opening comment? yes, mr. turner. >> thank you, mr. chairman. just like to raise a point. throughout the conflict the minds remain open. minerals, gems, rare earth provide the financing for the conflict. i think it's a motivation for a great deal of it. who is buying in this mat

security council will vote in coming weeks authorizing military intervention by the african union. other interventions have provided a model for multi lateral that allow the united states and our allies to provide operational support without boots on the ground. this intervention will take time and stability cannot be restored through military action alone. this is governance and security. the long-running grievances of the political vacuum in the south must be addressed through diplomacy and rebuilding democratic institutions and government. any agreement that attempts to peel off groups currently aligned will require a credible government to do so. elections are the key to not only resolving and restoring assistance but for reclaiming control of the north and democracy. >> while challengeses cannot be addressed as the u.n. secretary general's report suggested, the international community must address these crises at the same time and move forward with elections that might exclude participation of northerners. such an election could be a victory for al qaeda and further entrench t

union and similarly african led interventions for example in cÓte d'ivoire and somalia that provided a model for multilateral and regionally led solution to allow the united states and their allies to provide operational support without putting boots on the ground. this intervention will take time and stability cannot be restored through it military action. the situation in mali is as much a crisis of governance as of security. the long-running grievances in the north and a political vacuum in the south must be addressed through diplomacy, rebuilding democratic institutions and the restoration of democratically-elected government. in addition any agreement that attempts to -- a client with aqim well require the government to do so. elections are the key to not only resolving and restoring now frozen u.s. bilateral assistance but also for reclaiming government control of the north and restoring the three decade long history of history. political and security challenges cannot be addressed as separate issues. the international committee must work to address the small to be crises simul

roads, bridges, airports, ministries of foreign affairs and the african union headquarters in football stadiums although for the economy. it's usually where i get fed up. what if you guys done? [inaudible] >> yet, soccer. so they say that cheney spoke a foot stadium. what has america done for us? i will admit in a pillowcase comment i was frustrated by that and say americans invent and how thick dignities and education and the fact that there are young people alive to watch football is largely because of the people of the united states. that's kind of her difference. we've chosen a path of investment, human capital. it pays off in the long term rather than the immediacy of a football stadium. we've seen over the past several years 30 plus% decline in hiv/aids. that's not exclusively in the united states feared where the largest contributor to the end is something we should be proud of. it's huge that people in africa have that. >> last weekon monday or senator kirsten gillibrand delivered testimony on the hill and told stories of families who lost children to hurricane cindy. those hit

we are also part of the african union, but we always take the same position as the islands, because the islands have to stay together. ironically, the u.s. drones in seychelles take off from an airport only 10 feet above sea level. that should give them an idea of the kind of threat we are facing. when a tsunami hit the seychelles, it covered part of the airport, so by being in the seychelles, they cannot say they do not understand our position because they're very drones take off from the airport. we will also not allow our relationship with the u.s. to affect our tough stance here. we will continue to call for urgent and deep cuts in emissions, not just to save the seychelles. if the seychelles go under, so does new york, so does the nile delta. so does every low-lying part and city, like new orleans. we are fighting for all people in the same situation. >> what about hawaii? despite donald trump's contrary views, that is where obama was born. >> exactly. we speak to people in hawaii as islanders. they say, you are a sovereign government. when i look at you, i do not see the u.s., i s

it is planning for a military intervention in tandem with the african union's work for the resolution of the crises in malli. department of defense through u.s. africa command is activity supports the planning effort through the provision of planning expertise. the broad strategic concept is sound. more specific planning is under way to address the myriad operational details. the u.s. government exploring options for supporting countries for the mission this u could include the provision of training and equipment to countries that would contribute forces to deploy to the military force and advisory support. i'll stop for now and look forward to your questions. thank you. >> thank you very much. i'm gradeful to the panel and for the opportunity to explore further this complex and very challenging situation. if i might first just on the question of sort of sequencing. all three of you have spoke to the interrelated and complex challenges on the path towards restoring democracy dealing with humanitarian issues. addressing historic grievances in the north and resolving security concerns i

. >> host: how many southern african-american slaves fought in the union side? did slaves also fight for the confederate states? >> guest: well, roughly 150,000 southern slaves fought in the union army or navy during the war. about 185,000 african-americans in all, and about 80% of them were from the south. there is talk about african-american slaves fighting for confederacy. there's no evidence for this. there are some slaves who end up in the confederate army taken by their owners as basically body servants. by the very end of the war, there was the discussion about whether this confederacy in order to preserve its rebellion, and to enhance its military capacities ought to try to enlist slaves. the recognition, by anybody who thought about it was that you couldn't do that without abolishing slavery. at the very end of the war, the confederate congress does pass an emancipation bill that provides for enlistment, but no guarantee of emancipation, but the war ended really before it could go into effect. the only other case is the louisiana native guards, a -- a r

. >> how many african american slaves fought in the union war on the union side? >> roughly 150,000 southern slaves fought in the union army or navy during the war. about 185,000 african-americans and all and about 80% of them were from the south. there is talk about african-american slaves fighting for the confederacy there is no evidence of this whole taken by their owners by the very end of the war there is a discussion about whether the confederacy in order to preserve its rebellion and to enhance its military capacities of to try to enlist slaves. the recognition by anybody that thought about it is that you couldn't do that without abolishing slavery that the very end of the war. the confederate congress does have an emancipation bill provides an enlistment but no guarantee of emancipation but the war ended before it could go into effect. the only other case is the louisiana native guards regiment of free people of color in new orleans who initially set for the confederacy that as soon as the union army moves and it invades the side, so i know there is talk a

the united states in partnership with the european union, african union could facilitate investment on piece nine rather than minerals that exist today. in order to expand the pie in the region for conflict resolution and development in which all people of the subregion can benefit, particularly at the center. the summit could focus on market-based opportunities for investment in congo in the region again. turns incentives away from illegal, extractive, violent binding to peaceful development that goes into the tax treasury incensed development in eastern congo. bob hormats undersecretary of state in the administration could be a kind of person who could help. not that estimate to build the alliances and both companies in the united states government and civil society trying to help promote responsible investment spurred on by 1502 from the dog frink law. conclusion, my bottom line is a credible internationally driven the root causes and includes eastern congolese civil society won't guarantee peace, but its absence, however, absolutely guarantees. thank you very much. >> mr. dizolele.

union members african-americans, women and hispanics. is it a coincidence that these are the groups that are hurt most? this is the republican party agenda. paid for by wealthy people who can buy our government and shape it for their own personal benefit. this is strategy of people like the koch brothers and the devos family. they want to ensure a permanent republican majority by cutting off democratic fund-raising unions and by punishing the constituencies of democratic parties. you'll notice this. the strategy that they have doesn't involve winning the battle of ideas. it doesn't involve building coalitions for the republican party or expanding the republican tent. their strategy is all about extinguishing their opponent, killing off their support kill off their votes and their money. this is profound, people. if they can bring working people to their knees in michigan, they can and they will do it anywhere. make no mistake. the koch brothers are bringing this sad movie to a capitol near you. they're going state to state to dismantle t

the united states in partnership with the union -- african union, could facilitate international investment conference on investing in peacetime rather than the conflict that exists today. in order to help expand the pie in the region for conflict resolution and for development, which all people of the subregion can benefit, particularly at the center, people at the congo. the summit could focus on developing market-based opportunities for responsible investment in congo and the region, again, you've got to turn to the -- incentives with the illegal extractive violent mining to peaceful legal development that goes into the tax treasury, into the treasury and funds development in eastern congo. bob hormats, undersecretary of state in the administration could be a kind of person who could help spearhead that, as someone who has helped build this public-private alliance that involves companies and the united states government and civil society, trying to help us promote responsible investment, spurred on by 1502 from the dodd-frank law. conclusion, my bottom one is this, two sentences. a credi

secretary general to appoint a special envoy under the joint auspices of the un and african union is to bring all stakeholders together to craft will of lamentable solutions. we are delighted he is here for the testimony. the nine estates has run a peacekeeping mission. the time has come to fundamentally reconsider the mandate. the 17,000 troops deployed across that make of the united nations stabilization mission did not protect civilians in harm's way. this raises serious concerns. the largest failure remains with the drc's on forces and the inability to protect their citizens. the mandate should reflect the need for the country and the security sector must be reformed. last week we were delighted that the u.s. secretary general lost part of this mission. we hope the united states will take a leave, reporting significant changes. at a minimum the mandate must be strengthened to enable whatever forces remain to keep the peace and protect the people. we believe it should not be indefinite. an open-ended mandate undermines the urgency for them to take responsibility for their own. the

african-americans make more, hispanics make twice as much in union-friendly states. the lame duck republicans in michigan in their legislature, well, they don't -- they don't want to hear anything about that. they claim they're helping the michigan economy. but michigan voters don't seem to agree. this is a number that is astounding. a new poll out shows that only 6% of voters surveyed want the legislature to make michigan a right-to-work state. union members say michigan republicans are simply hurting the economy. >>. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> we're still here. we're still going to fight, even when the odds are stacked against us. >> i know that they're saying that right-to-work will make more jobs. but i don't think that. i believe that right-to-work is going to hurt the people out there. >> to take that away by this kind of right-wing attack by the republican administration is a disgrace to everything michigan has stood for decades and decades. >> so governor snyder, i find it interesting. if you sign this, how can you stand in front of the people a

organized by eco was, the economic community of west african states, and the african union. in the weeks ahead, the u.n. security council will likely vote on a resolution authorizing this coalition to lead a military intervention to dislodge the terrorists in the northern. we've seen models like this wo work, in cote d'ivoire and somalia, so there's reason to believe in the potential of a regional military solution to the security crisis in the north. however, even if this intervention works, it will take time to train and equip and assemble the regional force and to develop the appropriate plans for what happens during and after a military intervention. and, frankly, mr. president, security and stability can't be restored to mali with military action alone. the current crisis is as much about governance as it is about security. a stronger m stronger malian des the best way to ensure short gains in the short-term and long-term. but democracy doesn't just begin and end with an election. one of the reasons that mali democracy crumbled so quickly is that malians did not feel co

union. a senior official at the ministry told the bbc every year around 130,000 people are arrested when they enter the country illegally. we have more in this report. >> greece is a major gateway for migrants from asian and african countries trying to enter the european union. that they are discriminated against is not new but what this report is saying is that the mistreatment they are suffering now is reaching crisis levels. thousands are detained in an appalling conditions or left vulnerable in the streets where racist attacks happened on it almost daily basis. greece is at the front line of the migration challenge. more than 80% of migrants into into the european union and they do go through greece. thousands end up in detention camps and many of those who are not detained spent days and nights waiting to apply for asylum. other recent months, there has been a wave of attacks on immigrants, a number of them being stabbed to death. it is not just the illegal migrants or asylum seekers fe

. >> and then our next caller was an african american with a union. >> stephanie: yes. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." from silver screens... to flat screens... twizzlerize your entertainment everyday with twizzlers the twist you can't resist. ♪ >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> hello santa! now we have got a slight problem here, because i have been rather naughty. ♪ out where the river runs ♪ >> stephanie: thirty-four minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. let's go to queenby in tennessee. chris it's for you. >> hi, queen bee. >> caller: hi y'all. >> stephanie: hi, queen bee go ahead. >> caller: okay. stephanie you would not believe what i have been subjected to waiting to get this call. >> stephanie: huh oh. >> caller: i'm going to have to have chris give me some -- i don't know, nurse me back to health. >> i'll nurse you back to health any time queen bee. >> stephanie: what is happening here. >> caller: okay. i would like to apologize to all of the disabled people all over the world, really for the

we would welcome the support of the european union. after all, we would be the beneficiary. >> the volunteers are being prepared for guerrilla warfare. support from behind the lines for 3000 strong in african forces. military intervention has not been decided on yet. peaceful options are still being explored in order to prevent civilians being caught in the crossfire. >> and the reporter was in mali until a few days ago before they joined us in kenya. we asked if military intervention could end the conflict in northern mali. >> it may take quite some time. until now, there has not been a clear vote from the security council in the united nations. the 3300 soldiers of the west african countries that are supposed to be stationed there are still not ready. the military advisers that the european union wants to send will not be here until the beginning of next year. training will come some months and then come the rainy season where military operations will be very difficult so it could take another six months until military operations' mo

but you both mentioned african-americans in service, and you both mentioned the union fixation on recapturing charleston which was so symbolically important and yet such a difficult harbor to get at because it was surrounded by forts. but i want you to talk, both of you if you would, about robert small. it's a story that's not told too often. both of you tell it. this is a man who comes into view one day on a ship called the planter -- >> yeah. >> an african-american. tell me what that story was. >> well, a little context first, if i may. one, the union established its blockade along the south atlantic coast. enslaved americans recognized that this was potential salvation, and can thousands of them came down to the coastline or the rivers when union gunboats ventured up the rivers, sort of flagged them down, asked to be taken onboard, asked to be protected and so forth. so one of the things the union navy did was erect a series of camps on those offshore islands, the most famous led to the creation of some of the earliest black schools in the south, on hilton head and so forth. but it wasn't

they were kind of the secret supply rain of the union. >> he became a pilot for the union navy and so did a number of the of their sleeves that had escaped from charleston just a few days before he came out. 15, they were called contrabands , slaves decided they wanted to make their way out of freedom and general croswell rule out to the union fleet and all 15 of these guys were knowledgeable about the waterways on charleston and they became valuable in the union fleet. i argue in my book that the navy really deserves in some ways more credit than the army for taking the first steps towards achieving freedom for the sleeves in the civil war. and in the early months of the war they penetrated deeply into the confederate territory along the south atlantic coast and the mississippi river and the tennessee river and the far more areas where the slaves lived in the army. we talk about the liberation and it became an army we talk about the slaves recognizing the union army as an army of liberation long before the army itself did in coming into the union lines. but in fact, the early part of

the chicago teachers union has filed a lawsuit accusing a city of discriminating against african-american teachers and staff through its effort to reform or shut down local schools. the federal suit says more than half of the tenured teachers who lost their jobs in the most recent wave of school closings were african-american, despite african-americans comprising just 30% of tenured teachers overall and 35% in the underperforming schools that wound up -- wind up being closed. the teachers' union is seeking an injunction to stop chicago mayor rahm emanuel from closing any more schools. the nra has confirmed plans to continue its campaign against a proposed u.n. treaty that would regulate the global arms trade. the general assembly voted to reopen negotiations after the obama administration help stonewall talks in july. speaking reuters, an nra spokesperson said the massacre in newtown, connecticut will not change their opposition to the treaty saying, "we are as opposed to it today as we were when it first appeared." the nra has vowed to oppose global arms regulation marking its second maj

that union worker we just heard, the woman, african-american woman, what this means you can work alongside a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the right not to associate with that entity. this is basically saying every worker makes their own choice. it doesn't say you can't have a union. i want to be very clear about this. when the unions say it is anti-union. it is not. simply says every worker has the choice. i talk to a lot of owners of businesses and ceos of companies, bill the one of the things, i asked them about right to work and what they tell me is, when they're looking where they will open up a new plant or facility, bill, they don't even look at a state, they don't even consider a state if it is not right to work. bill: is that so? that is interesting. matt, give you the last word. what t

tomorrow, the harlem globetrotters play at the new federal credit union or arena. today was the fourth day of kwanzaa. they celebrated by holding family fun days. it included in african marketplace, musical performances, and a ceremony with storytelling. this year's theme was, a child shall lead them. >> now your 11 insta-weather- plus forecast. >> like i said at the top of the show, we lucked out today. if you were rooting for the big snow, this storm stolen away from us. either way, this nor'easter is pounding the folks in new england. on the backside, the winds are whipping up coming out of the north and northeast and whipping in the cold air at home. over the next 24 hours, those winds will pick up 25 to 30 miles an hour. we just had a 26 mile per hour gusts at the airport. 23 in westchester -- that is producing wind chills of the lower end of the 20's. the wind chill in parkton is 22. 27 in edgewood. it will probably drop into the teens by late tonight after midnight. be prepared. the actual temperatures are in the low to mid 30's. there will probably be some

i'm embarrassed for the union movement. >> i agree with dagen and ben. this is violent intimidation, what they would i will pose on their own members. who wants that. who wants to work under that? they did the biggest disservice this week. it probably one or two guys that physical aspect but it is part of that feeling with physical intimidation. it used to work. >> neil: 24 states that are right to work states. the argument is push is on to make them all 50 states. it will be a uphill battle in new york but where is this going? >> as someone -- my father was an iron worker. i've been to strikes. i could tell you that when i was kid, they would say violence for the scabs. they would not be beating up the porters. this new low. my father is probably turning over his grave. i will point out this, though, it's minority i believe. i believe a lot of this stuff is unions themselves being desperate and shipping people in. i know a lot of union people. the last person they are going to take their ire out is fox news correspondent. >> at that point union leadersh

i'm embarrassed for the union movement. >> i agree with dagen and ben. this is violent intimidation, what they would i will pose on their own members. who wants that. who wants to work under that? they did the biggest disservice this week. it probably one or two guys that physical aspect but it is part of that feeling with physical intimidation. it used to work. >> neil: 24 states that are right to work states. the argument is push is on to make them all 50 states. it will be a uphill battle in new york but where is this going? >> as someone -- my father was an iron worker. i've been to strikes. i could tell you that when i was kid, they would say violence for the scabs. they would not be beating up the porters. this new low. my father is probably turning over his grave. i will point out this, though, it's minority i believe. i believe a lot of this stuff is unions themselves being desperate and shipping people in. i know a lot of union people. the last person they are going to take their ire out is fox news correspondent. >> at that point union leadersh

they don't have to -- and they don't ha to deal with the unions. >> two policy conversations that happened, and then there was the political. the democrats and union bosses focused on the political, but the two policy conversations were about granting workers the freedom to make their decision. the other is about making michigan is better place to find a job, attract new jobs and better ceers for the workers. that's why i say today is a win, a game changer for michigan because it's a game changer for the workers. tracy: clearly,poltical. president obama, hesmtion, aid it had nothing to do with economics, but with politics. obviously, worried now about political donations when union dues no longer need to be collected. >> again, the president spoke clearly about the politics, but we're focused on the worker, and the president has a job to do. i wish he'd get that job done. we're going to continue to get our job done here in michigan, reinventing our state, making sure we turn our state around, making great process to continue that. tracy: are you worri it ends up back in the courts? they fo

she was the first african-american heading up the epa. she did spend plenty of time sparring with congressional republicans and industry groups over issues like global warming and the keystone palestiipeline. >> i worked with lisa jackson on issues. i think she could have got a lot more done if we didn't have the partisan battle back and forth over what her role was and what the epa was there for and the keystone pipeline as well as what she's trying to do with greenhousing. i think she was very effective and aggressive, and it's going to be a loss to the country. she's a very, very worthy public servant. >> chemical engineer and young. i'm sure she has a bright future. >> no doubt about that. she'll be in the public view for a long time. >> sounds like you know something. tune in tonight to find out. the "wall street journal," apple ceo cook's combination hit 4.2 million and last year it was $367 million. i don't know how he will eat. >> parade features al roker of the "today" show. check that out this weekend. right now once again bring

that case came for african-americans in 1954, i believe. this could be that moment. we're all hoping that it is. this country is an imperfect union by mere fact that we have not recognized the right of people in love to be married. there are 120,000 couples in this country that are directly -- have their interests directly at stake. but it's not just them. the question is will this country embrace this fundamental human right? and i don't believe kennedy wants to be on the wrong side of history on that. >> this is the latest challenge to the constitutionty. is doma doomed? >> i think it is. there are four district courts saying it violated the rights of gay and lesbian couples. there are two court of appeals. so there's a heavy judicial pile of precedent here from the lower courts. the only question remains is one of standing. but i think that it really is losing steam. the questions going to be holings worth and whether they leave this question to states like california. and that could be a really painful decision if it goes the wrong way. saying it violated the rig

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that case came for african-americans in 1954, i believe. this could be that moment. we're all hoping that it is. this country is an imperfect union by mere fact that we have not recognized the right of people in love to be married. there are 120,000 couples in this country that are directly -- have their interests directly at stake. but it's not just them. the question is will this country embrace this fundamental human right? and i don't believe kennedy wants to be on the wrong side of history on that. to the constitutionty. is doma doomed?

. >> stephanie: kevin claims he is black and in a union. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: what? >> caller: that statement got me off of my sleep bed. that woke me up. okay. i am african american and clearly -- >> stephanie: you are not just african american you have carried me across the ballroom. >> i saw that happen. >> caller: stephanie is so racist that she smooched the african american. >> stephanie: right? and i meant ballroom in the dirtiest way possible. >> caller: right. we have witnesses. but i just spoke to my head rep two weeks ago who was black, and i talked to the shop foreman who is a black female. so what the bleep! you attract an interesting group of people. >> oh, we know that. >> stephanie: and we want to say again, welcome fox viewers! welcome. [ applause ] >> stephanie: i think make it ever week. >> the left-wingers love to go on television and spew their hateful venom. >> the progressive movement is build on hate. >> let's go to stephanie miller one of the worst things you can call somebody is what? a racist especially somebody is not. this is a narrative f

south carolina, a state whose history is as acutely colored by racial politics as any state in the union i would argue. you're the maier of atlanta. >> yes. >> georgia is a place that -- whose demographics in politics are changing in a way that a lot of people think it might be the next state. we have virginia and neither carolina. we've shown those can go blue. georgia might be the next place? >> there's a clear path. i think the president lost north carolina by about two points. could have won that. >> and he won it the first time around? >> didn't invest in georgia and got 45.2%. the previous elections, he got 46.7. his numbers are moving up. georgia's becoming increasingly diverse. florida i believe is gone for republicans. i think virginia has gone for them. but i happen to believe that hillary clinton's going to run for president. if she does, i think bill clinton is going to want to go for it. and i think if you have a presidential campaign that with a clinton on the ticket, that spends 10, 12, $14 million, the kind of money you spend when you're trying to win a state, that they w