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state department chief of staff lawrence wilkerson who was behind the report laying out the case for the road and we lost him what he thinks is next for syria and how justifiable if is about its chemical. i would be highly skeptical of any intelligence rendered by the one hundred forty plus billion dollar u.s. intelligence community as to weapons of mass destruction in the possession of another country period i'm not violating any great confidence or any great prohibition in the intelligence community to tell you that we've known for years years that syria has chemical weapons stockpiles just as iraq had chemical weapons stockpiles for a while but the fact that president assad would be moving them around and preparing them for use against his own citizens within his own territory i frankly find for posterous i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines soldiers and so forth and we were to do in syria what we began to do in march of two thousand and three in iraq it would be even worse than iraq i think also that

wilkerson of one she will stop to secretary of state colin powell says will never come. why in the world would we put patriot batteries on the turkish border ostensibly to protect turkey with the largest army and the most powerful army in the region indeed one of the most powerful in the world turkey needs no protection by us from that sort of thing and it would be utterly. utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran be a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a conflict that becomes regional and maybe even wider. one of the oldest standing gulf monarchies could soon face a new arab spring style uprising coates really cracking down on protesters and blocking the opposition's poli

and for more on the similarities between syria and iraq in the next i'll be joined by lawrence wilkerson he's a retired u.s. army colonel who was chief of staff to colin powell when he was u.s. secretary of state. when meanwhile the u.s. is expected to endorse the syrian rebels as the sole legitimate voice of the syrian people in the next few days talk to spectrum of the earlier he's a political analyst a professor at the university in jordan and he believes the hype around syria's chemical arsenals is being used as justification. the purpose of drumming up these allegations about syrians attempting or plundering the usage of of chemical weapons is either to justify a military intervention in syria or to justify arming the rebels was quantitatively but the weaponry especially. the size this is late on a thump with the stuff below is a little bit on the government of things go in the direction of a bit like military intervention at what definitely be another iraq but on the laws or regional scale. a student has been found guilty in a british court of involvement in a cyber attack on globa

i'm not joined by lawrence wilkerson the retired u.s. army colonel who was chief of staff to colin powell when he was u.s. secretary of state now as i say you were kind of paul's chief of staff when the decision was made to invade iraq in two thousand and three he made a speech that laid out the case for that war we'll have a listen to what he said and then i'll ask you a couple questions afterwards. the most worrisome things that emerges from the thick intelligence file we have interacted biological weapons is the existence of mobile production facilities used to make biological agents let me take you inside that intelligence file and share with you what we know from eyewitness accounts we have first hand descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and on rails . while you help prepare that speech in have since described as the biggest mistake of your life why primarily because we to the american people to the international community and of course to the members of the u.n. security council presented evidence that it was spec

well lawrence wilkerson the former chief of staff to seconds you state colin powell says the u.s. could very well be preparing for a ground invasion. why in the world would we put patriot batteries on the turkish border ostensibly to protect turkey with a large just army and the most powerful army in the region indeed one of the most powerful in the world turkey major no protection by us from that sort of thing and it would be utterly. utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria i think also that it would be again a backdoor as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on i think you're looking at a confrontation that's going to take at least a decade to settle and there are going to be too many victors at the end of that decade just losers. britain is heading towards five

. >> colonel lawrence wilkerson, thanks for coming in tonight. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening fire on holiday shoppers. two people were killed. the shooter also killed, and one person has been seriously injured according to the sheriff's department. an eyewitness who had been browsing the watch counter inside macy's described the scene to our portland, oregon affiliate kgw tv. >> constant boom, boom, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom, boom. it wasn't just a couple of shots. whatever the shooter was shooting at, they continued to shoot. an employee of the store actually saw a masked gunman come in. and as fast as she got the call to security, the gunshots started. so i and others just hit -- you know, got behind the counter. and a couple of people stood there and i got them to duck down too. kind of wait until the coast is clear