and donald berwick is the guy who's domination republicans blocked two years ago. he was set to oversee medicare and medicaid services. donald berwick told the "boston globe" that he is considering running for governor of massachusetts. and there is a lot to like about donald berwick like his thoughtful stance on health care. here is what he told us the day the supreme court upheld obamacare. >> this is a wonderful country. we are taking a step towards health care as a human right. that's where we need to go. and we're in a very smart way using the private and public sector together. this isn't a government takeover. this is normal medicine giving the care they want to give. >> jennifer: and the health care community loves him by the way. we hope the governor's office will stay blue one deval patrick moves on. and the battle continues and could be making its way to a fast-food franchise near you. they are slashing employee hours to avoid paying for obamacare. they are required to offer health insurance to employees who work more than 30 hours a week. so what are fr

donald berwick appointment. he has got some good revenge though, because he is now considering a run for the massachusetts state house as governor. so while republicans may have knocked him down, they sure did not knock him out, and coming to us tonight from newton massachusetts, is dr. donald berwick. >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. as with hillary clinton, i'm curious about whether your experience with congress might have inspired you a bit to consider at least running for office yourself? >> well, it was interesting dealing with congress, but what inspired me was the chance to serve in government. i -- for 17 months i was administrator of cms, i got to help advance the most important steps in american public policy and health care in my lifetime. it was just wonderful. i got to work with great staff, and it gave me a taste for what good government really can do and really whetted my appetite for it. >> jennifer: so are you going to run? >> i haven't decided yet. i'm very, very serious about thi

berwick. let's watch. >> we spend a spectacular amounts of money on health care. $2.7 trillion per year. the average per capita cost of health care in the developed world is about $3000. in the united states, it was around $8000 annually. we spent one heck of a lot of money. >> health care system isn't affordable anymore. pacer that? this is all coming out of our pockets. it's your money. >> the really astonishing part about the fact we spend more as we have worse health outcomes. >> if you need complex cardiac surgery, you're lucky to be in this country. rescue kerry is second to none. as an overall system, were not anywhere near the best in the world. look at our results, our lifespan isn't even in the top 20. >> we have a disease care system and we have a very profitable disease care system. the disease care system, if it really was honest with itself, it doesn't want you to die and doesn't want you to get well. he just wants you to keep coming back for your care of your chronic disease. c-