>> great point, paul. let me step back a minute and say that you and i and dan and eric will lived through the budget deals for 25, 30 years, this is the first and almost none of them have worked out very he well. but this is the first budget deal i can recall dating back to the early reagan years, there wasn't a pretense of cutting spending. usually $3 of phony tax cuts for-- >> there was a tax increase in the deal with extension of unemployment. and now i think the republicans are on a little higher ground as we go forward. you saw president obama in his little press conference after he signed the bill saying this is only the first of many tax increases to come in 2013. i believe the republicans are not going to budge an inch on that, i think they're going to basically say, mr. obama you've got your tax increase on the rich now we have to turn to spending and i think that's where the fight is headed now. >> mary? >> i think that anybody who thinks that this gives businesses certainty is crazy. as steve j

i'm paul gigot. that didn't take long, fresh off the biggest tax increase the country has seen the last 20 years. the democrats are planning their next revenue grab. mitch mcconnell declared the tax issue over this week, saying it's now time to focus on washington's spending program. but president obama insists any cut must be be accompanied by more tax revenue. and mouse minority leader nancy pelosi says future tax hikes are not off the table. >> the president had said originally he wanted 1.6 trillion in revenue and he took it down to 1.2 as a compromise and this legislation will get 620 billion dollars, very significant, high end tax, changing the high end tax rate to 39.6%, but that's not enough on the revenue side. >> paul: joining the panel, dan henninger, editorial board member, mary anastasia o'grady and kim strassel. kim, before we get to the next tax increase, i want to inform our viewers about the stealth tax increase, eliminating some deductions and exemptions for taxpayers above $250,000

and i think we need a lot more of that, paul. i think we need something beyond john boehner being the face of the republican party. i like mr. boehner, too, i don't think he can carry the ball for the entire party. >> paul: talking younger people, marco rubio, florida senator, and take the lead on immigration, others on tax policy. do you agree with that idea get out of the smoke-filled room? >> oh, absolutely. the president's shown he's not negotiating in good faith in those rooms and what he's done is basically made deals and then as the republicans got closer and closer, he pulled the football away and you know, they can't go on like this. i think it's very important that they, going forward, don't let themselves be set up as nearly obstructionist. you know, he's going to try to say this they are going to damage the faith and credit of the u.s. government by threatening default and that that's going to harm everybody. he's going to really try to make them to be the villains and i think they have to turn this around and demonst

[applause] [cheers and applause] paul sun, senator rand paul. it's an hour and 10 minutes. >> good afternoon. welcome to the cato institute. i'm david boaz of the institute of her trying something different you are doing an event after work hours. we'll see how that works out, but hopefully it's good for people who have jobs and can't come to the events we do usually at noon. required to have a very interesting discussion of "ron paul's revolution." about 30 years ago there was a book published about the early years of the libertarian movement called it usually begins a timer and unless we found a cato, that most of our interns and students who came to her seminaries had first read the fountainhead. not all of him, but more than anything else. i think you can say over the past six years, it usually begins with ron paul. as we get more people hitting their first taste of libertarian ideas and maybe then they move on to read ayn rand and cato policy studies, whatever. but a lot of people being brought to the concept of liberty and limited governme

. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report, i'm paul gigot, that was president obama rolling out the plan to curb gun violence and the president outlined 23 executive actions, including more steps to make more federal data available from background checks and increased access to mental health services and he called on congress to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban and prohibit high capacity gun magazines that can hold more than ten rounds. so, what's likely to get passed and what difference will it make? let's ask wall street journal columnist and political he editor and washington columnist kim strassel. >> has a hypothetical, let's assume that everything the president is proposing becomes law. what difference would it make? >> well, it's not quite a hypothetical, paul. the president just said, if we can save just one life, if we have to do this, from 1994, to 2004, we had the law banning assault rifles and high capacity magazines. the national research council and the centers for disease control took a deep look at the effect of that law and their conclusion was, it

it was the synthesis of two cultures, and the obvious affection that they had for paul and that paul had for them was the perfect moment. ♪ ta na na na na ♪ ♪ ta na na na na na ♪ ♪ ta na na na na... ♪ when we finished the song everybody stood up. they clapped and then they even stomped, whistling and all those things. and everybody was very happy for that. simon: ladysmith black mambazo became the hippest act on the planet, and everybody wanted ladysmith black mambazo. they became international stars and remain so. so, almost two years after i first went to south africa, the record finally came out. it was met with immediate praise. there is so much despair coming out of south africa so many haunting images of death and oppression sometimes its hard to remember that life there does go on in all of its forms, and a celebration of the black life of south africa can be heard in this country in a remarkable album called "graceland." man: rather than diluting one of the most vital pop music subcultures in the world that of black south africa he transforms it he works a real sy

. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report, i'm paul gigot. that was president obama in his inaugural address monday, promising to make global warming a top priority in a second term, it's an issue that is sure to bring some fierce policy showdowns, the first of which may come under the keystone xl pipeline since 2008. and a revised route through nebraska this week, the final hurdle to the project at the state level and 53 senators, including 9 democrats sent a letter to the white house on wednesday urging president obama to expedite its approval. and joining the panel this week, wall street journal assistant page editor, james freeman and senior economics writer steve moore and washington columnist kim strassel. kim, where did that come from? i don't remember the climate change being something that the president talked a lot about in the campaign if at all. >> surprise. >> paul: and he didn't wait for the state of the union, it's in the inaugural address. so, what's going on here politically? >> well, i think some of us did think it was comin

the other gap that ron paul bridges is the apocalyptic ron paul who is also the very hopeful ron paul. ron paul is one of the only politicians around who is willing to say, america is not necessarily the greatest, richest, freest, most wonderful nation in the world, that can only do right and if there's anything wrong, just vote out that other guy and vote me in. ron paul is able to say that our behavior overseas is some ways the behavior of a criminal empire and we actually might want to consider that we're burning enemies overseas by our behavior. he is willing to say the constant series of decades of trillion dollar deficit spending is impoverishing us. it's not something we actually can continue. we can't just behave as we have behaved. he is willing to point out that we're facing serious, serious problems with our debt and fiscal crises that are not going to go away by saying, as mitt romney recently said, we can't have a trillion dollar spending cut in one year why like ron paul wants. that would shrink the economy. we can't keep thinking it's okay that the federal police will k

this includes remarks by one paul sun, senator rand paul. it's an hour and 10 minutes. >> good afternoon. welcome to the cato institute. i'm david boaz of the institute of her trying something different you are doing an event after work hours. we'll see how that works out, but hopefully it's good for people who have jobs and can't come to the events we do usually at noon. required to have a very interesting discussion of "ron paul's revolution." about 30 years ago there was a book published about the early years of the libertarian movement called it usually begins a timer and unless we found a cato, that most of our interns and students who came to her seminaries had first read the fountainhead. not all of him, but more than anything else. i think you can say over the past six years, it usually begins with ron paul. as we get more people hitting their first taste of libertarian ideas and maybe then they move on to read ayn rand and cato policy studies, whatever. but a lot of people being brought to the concept of liberty and limited governme

well i found it interesting that paul goes back to the o.s.'s i'm talking about america from seventeen eighty seven to nineteen forty something america lived without a cia for more than a century a free society cannot have these kind of horse is within their midst the president live in a very we're challenging we're challenging the status paradigm that's what we're doing is libertarians were saying it is possible to restore a limited government republic to our land by dismantling these cold war totalitarian time edifices. all right some perfectly legitimate political i think it's all for the good it's not going to work because modern society is just much more complicated why can we be doing even a lot more in just a moment when we don't have it ok many thanks to my guest today in london washington and in philadelphia and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules. we only. join me on a journey to the heart of the problem places hidden from the terrorists you're going to meet some real crime i

paul, paul, come on man, look at me, look at me. i'm not going to let danny and annie ruin this party, ok? check it out, i made a list, a list of everything else we'll need for the party. when the next delivery comes i check the amount on the list. if it's wrong, we send it back and we get it right. come on, come on who loves ya? come on, yes! annie, you're a genius. broadway banana products company, perfect. he's loading up the truck now. awesome! i can't change the list while he's staring at it go distract him. distract him? i don't know how to distract him. he sells banana stuff, ask him about that. go! go! ♪ excuse me, sir. do you know where i might be able to find banana -- banana what? banana...fanny packs? ♪ it's our most popular item let me just check. hey no! you want this, don't you? you know what? you're in luck, my friend, because this is free for you and i'll get the straps. there you go that's yours. if your friends ask you, which they will, you got that from barry banana. i most certainly will. you have a good day

pauline, crying they've lost grandpa paul, they've lost grandpa paul. and so although we know initially he was buried in harmony cemetery, just where his remains are at that moment are unknown. [inaudible conversations] >> stay right here for a second. when i first met beth, she was still at monticello, and she recalled the story to me a little earlier, i haven't seen her for a number of years. knew she was working on this book, and she came wandering down the hall about an hour ago before this talk, and i knew it had to be beth because she was carrying kind of a decrepit but important bag to the center for the boog. it was the old center for the book bag that i had given her more than how many years ago? >> about 12 years ago. >> 12 years ago. and, a, i said that must be beth, but i better check it out -- [laughter] and then i saw the condition of the bag, and i said, well, that speaks well for the durability and the quality of our products here at the center for the book. so in addition to thanking her and telling you that we would like you now to lin

paul ryan of the state of wisconsin has received 206 votes. this announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall redeem a sufficient declaration of the person selected president and vice-president of the united states, each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2013, and shall be entered together with a list of votes in the journal of the senate and of the house of representatives. the joint session having been concluded pursuant to the senate joint resolution, the chair declares the joint session dissolved. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> tomorrow, changes to the u.s. tax code. with donald williamson. thomas schatz cox about legislation review. "washington journal" live tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> there is low hanging fruit that is extremely appealing to people across all parties. it sounded to me like you were saying -- how can people on the right with a full spectrum, frankly it is to

>> at least in the house, like paul ryan, the $11 trillion man. >> thank you, paul. >> thank you, paul, for the $11 trillion in additional debt. what does harry reid do? >> in this case, he represented the interests of his caucus and signed off on a deal that got the democrats a ton of stuff. >> okay. again, you -- i don't fault mitch mcconnell, because mitch mcconnell was dealing with a democratic senate. >> but he could have vetoed -- he could have filibustered the whole thing. >> and tax rates would have gone up for everybody. >> mitch mcconnell chose to be a quiet statesman, didn't see him on camera or he didn't meet face to face with joe biden, but he's the reason we have this agreement. i wonder what his view is of decoupling the -- >> maybe there was a deal he cut. >> maybe he has an idea of how this gives them more leverage in the next round. >> i don't expect much from republican senators. i love them. i love them. i don't expect them to be fiscal hawks. >> he is so difficult, usually, so there must have been a deal cut. he's so difficult. he's impossible. >> to get something

they lost grandpa paul! and so all though we know initially he was buried in harmony cemetery where his remains are at the moment are unknown. [background noise] >> when i first met beth, she was still at monticello she recalled the story a little earlier. i haven't seen her for a number of years. knew she was working on the book and she came wandering down the hall about an hour ago before the talk, i knew it will be to be beth she was carrying a decrypt but important bag to the center of the book. it was the old center for the book bag i had given her more than twelve years ago. >> twelve years ago. a. i said that must be beth. i better check it out. and then i saw the condition of the bag, and i said, well that speaks well for the occur rehabilitate adulter -- durnlt. we'll have a line come along that wall. i would like to present beth with -- [laughter] a brand new bag. [laughter] it is in great shape. never been used. i will not take this one back. accept mental value. join me for one more time in thank

. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ esta mañana farayi y paul pulirán sus habilidades en el río. aunque han pasado cientos de horas en él, cualquier nueva experiencia ayuda. si el peligro amenaza, un momento de duda puede ser la diferencia entre la vida y la muerte. ♪ las amenazas son reales. los cocodrilos matan cientos de personas cada año. [elefante barritdo] ¡brrr, brr...! ♪ los cocodrilos carnívoros son letales, pero no son las criaturas más peligrosas del río, ese título es para los enormes vegetarianos, los hipopótamos. parece arriesgado estar tan cerca, pero troy sabe lo que hace. (troy) ¿creen que aquí estamos en peligro? (farayi) estamos en aguas poco profundas y muy cerca de la ribera, ellos se sienten mejor en aguas profundas, así que... así es, aquí hay menos de un metro, como pueden ver, allá sí es más profundo obviamente. (narrador) los hipopótamos son peligrosos en aguas profundas porque pueden quedarse sumergidos por mucho tiempo. uno puede remar sobre ellos sin saber que están ahí y son capaces de partir en dos una canoa. [hipopótamos] ¡

this is the case of paul jennings, the paul jennings letters that i've found. often it's interesting to realize that documents like these survived week as they were swept up into the papers of prominent people, people recognize for being prominent and in some cases we can assume these records are the only written records of the slides, so they are valuable things we more or less infinitely happen the manuscript division. that's accomplishment in this book as she was able to excavate the story of paul jennings and i'm proud to introduce beth taylor. [applause] >> well, i think john and julie for having me today. i think all of you for churning out. "a slave in the white houe: paul jennings and the madisons" was a great labor of love. i spent three years researching the book in the year writing a i have a fondness for great narrative nonfiction and a lot of times if i read journalistic pieces, i enjoy when they began with an extended and totaled the period so i adapted that approach in my book and each job or starts with what we might call a vignette. i really pa

to cross like the cia today i'm joined by paul schulz in london he is a nonresident senior associate with the carnegie endowment in washington we have jacob hornberger he is the founder and president of the future of freedom foundation and in philadelphia we crossed lawrence davidson he is a professor of history at west chester university all right gentlemen cross talk rose in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want jacob if i go to you first is it time to shut down the cia. absolutely it's long past time it needs to be abolished it has no place in a free society its justification was the cold war that ended a long time ago and it's really at the root of many of the foreign policy was that the american people are now suffering well that was very succinct paul how do you feel about that and i think that's a gross oversimplification of the story if there are errors that the american government makes it's not due to the cia it's due to the directions they're given and to close it down would cause immense disruption and difficult him building up an agency with comparable compe

rand paul tried to have the first volley of attacks. >> wouldn't rand paul say maybe i shouldn't step away just net yet. again, the country needs me. super calm, fierce, looking amazing. and so on it. it was like classic hillary. >> john: well rand paul seemed to be throwing his hat in the ring, and i know it was 2001, not 2011. he said to hillary that he would fire her if he was president and then brought up some right wing conspiracy. does rand have a chance of being the g.o.p. nominee or is crisis chris christie going to rush him. >> the g.o.p. crazy is so mutating and bizarro and self-destructing. who knows. they had santorum. >> everybody was ahead for a week and then it went away. with the ever growing women and minorities in this country and you have a candidate who said i would do this day vote against the civil rights act. >> john: that was rand paul. i think rand paul is like rick santorum in that he's not running for president but for higher public speaking fees for the rest of his life. it will be hillary against chris christie, a new york senator against a new jersey gove

i think that this is true of jean paul gaultier's work. i know that have been friends for a very long time. it is my honor to introduce both suzy menkes, fashion editor of the international herald tribune, and mr. jean paul gaultier. [applause] >> the love seat. [laughter] i just want to know, can you hear me? please shout loudly if you cannot. [laughter] yes or no, you can hear? >> somebody said no. >> mic people, can i be heard? should i start? ok, good. so before i introduced one of the funniest, wittiest, most amusing and funkiest designers that i know, i would like to start with something a little bit more serious. you know, in fashion, the reason that people laughed seem obvious when you see the exhibition of all it's incredible glory and excitement. but at the same time, there were real reasons why designers laughed, and one of them, when it comes to jean paul gaultier, is probably what is talked about least. it is the technique, the skill, the handwork, the knowledge. sometimes it gets buried underneath the fantasies of the close.

i think clearly that's what rand paul was doing. i think ron johnson and others were trying to raise their profile at their expense. >> and admiral, we may never know the motivation for the attack. is that a fair statement? >> we may never know exactly what it was. look, we've gotten much closer to exactly what occurred. and secretary clinton said what is most important of all. we'll take these lessons and try to ensure it doesn't happen again. and second, we will get those who did this crime. >> great to have both of you with us tonight. thank you so much. remember, to answer your questions at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us on twitter at edshow and on facebook. we want to though what you think. >>> next, the secretary of state addresses the problems we face, and offers a blueprint moving forward. the question is, is congress going to fund it? are they going to act? senator chris murphy will join me when we come back. stay with us. >>> coming up, paul ryan's budget i thought was rejected by americans last nove

long a champion of liberal causes, paul began to wonder what his church really stood for. and for the first time, began his own research. >> i went, oh, my god, is this really happening? >> reporter: he learned of allegations of abuse at the highest levels of the church from a series of articles in the "st. petersburg times," stories of violence and involuntary confinement. he was particularly shocked when he read allegations of children being made to work 12 to 16 hours a day. >> it's horrible treatment these children had. made to work all day long in terrible conditions. [ bleep ] them for that. they should be taken down for that. >> reporter: the church denies any of this abuse happened. they say paul's investigation was a sham and that there is no record, no police report, no medical records, no photos to support these allegations. the church also says it adheres to all child labor laws. paul resigned from the church in 2009 and made his break public two years ago when "the new yorker" published a controversial profile by reporter lawrence wright. >> i expected when i

brendan: paul. yeah. has paul been on one of those courses? charm school? yeah. really kickin' in, isn't it? you all right, oonagh? nothin' twenty grand wouldn't fix. he's laughin' at us. donal: dooley? he looked well-rattled to me. well, we're gonna have to rattle him a bit more. know what i'm sayin'? i mean really shake him up. like in sicily? like in sicily. brendan: no, no, no -- that's what they do in england -- "the dog and duck," "the slug and spinach" -- these are the names that big breweries give to local bars just to make them sound authentic. "the gard and breathalyzer". thank you, dermot. no, they don't. they call them "kitty o'shea's" or "scrubby mulligan's" and pretend they're irish. well, i'll call it "oonagh dooley's" and it really will be irish. leave it as fitzgerald's, then it'll be even more irish. how could it be more irish? because it'll have been there longer. you'll not be shackled by logic, will you, brendan? no. how are you, father? ah, what's your suggestion, father? when it is not necessary to change, it is necessary not to change. not

>> paul ryan did say things like urban voters. he has that same view that mitt romney does about the 47% being takers and getting gifts from the government. that is his view, and so as long as you have that core understanding among paul ryan, who is supposed to be a leader of the republican party, they are not going to be able to evolve. they might be able to put on a happy smiley face according to newt gingrich, but they're not going to be able to evolve and come to grips with the reality of the fact that their ideology was and is still being rejected by the american electorate. >> ari melber, krystal ball, thanks. >>> the vice president outlines a gun safety plan that makes sense and remember you can always follow us at any time on facebook. >> i don't like this word empower. i think that's one of these like dopey words that people throw around. but, again, i don't go on facebook. i don't know what you people are doing. >>> time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. kathleen king had a successful bakery business in the

this is complete insanity and it brings us to another story this one of ron paul ron paul represents libertarianism in america and ideology gaining steam in this country as well as an ideology that sees no problem with the two stories that i just told you about the libertarians health care is not a basic human right to be provided by our government have ever heard of survival of the fittest or the strong survive to ron paul and other libertarians freedom means being free not having to buy health insurance and not allowing the government to tax us in order to pay for a basic safety net of health care for all americans here's ron paul lane that idea out during one of the republican debates in two thousand and eleven. my advice to him would have a major medical policy but not before he doesn't have that he doesn't have it and he's very needs needs intensive care for six months to pay that's what freedom is all about taking your own risks this whole idea that you have to. karan thapar. are you saying that society should just let him die. no. yeah essentially yes let him die just like ron

he has got authority and rand paul gave a speech. but nobody really dug in to answer those questions. that's one one of the reasons she emerged, i think, with up scathe. the democrats have to pay -- hillary clinton looking towards 2016 whether she will probably run. >> no question about that. i think shehe will. that doesn't bode well at all for the chuck hale friends. going to give him a tough time nominee for 70s secretary. >> no, and what they really failed to do here, paul, was not just have a response or presser on these big things. move her off the talking points and the that you just asked. t bigger question putting and placing benghazi scope of a broader failure of foreign policy. that's going to have to be what they are going to do if they are going to talk about chuck hagel is highlight the the obama's failures in this area and talk about chuck hagel is going to be yes man for that strategy. if they are not able to do that in a hearing like this which they have been pressing for four months it does not bode well. >> paul: w

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paul is an exemplary political leader. he is unflappable. his goal is not to bent or insult -- not to vent or insult, but to persuade. he went through this entire campaign last year under tremendous pressure and never showed one moment of ill -- we saw his political character on display in national debate or he faced a vice president who was determined to behave like a hyena that was high. [applause] i think the late great crocodile wrestler would have hesitated to sit down at the table for an hour and a half with the vice president. at the end, we knew which of those men had a better political character and which one was a better advocate for a cause. [applause] i'm absolutely certain that whatever is the solution and the answer to that writes political predicament over the next couple of years, paul ryan be part of that answer and solution. he is a great friend. ladies and gentlemen, welcome paul ryan. [cheers and applause] >> that was pretty good. i will take you both hunting. that was great. thank you. appreciated. i can say about that i

romney, that ended up having ron paul supporters fill that slot. shouldn't the romney folks feel as if delegates who are assigned to him, be forced to vote for him, at least on the first ballot? >> chuck, you gave a remarkably good run down on some major aspects of the rules battle, but in this respect, you didn't get it quite right. what was at issue was not whether or not candidates got the delegate votes that they would win in a primary, but whether or not a presidential candidate could disallow and remove delegates that they didn't like. there was a big uproar over this. and there was no question, ever, that delegate votes won in a primary wouldn't be cast as allocated by state law. >> let me stop you here. you, specifically say "primary." you believe it's different for caucus states? >> well, in a caucus situation, the people are actually elected as delegates, in some way, under state party rules. so it really wasn't an issue with respect to caucus states, because caucus and convention states, if there's no primary involved, the delegates that

clippers, blake griffin and chris paul are here. [ cheers and applause ] the clippers right now have the best record in the nba. it's unbelievable. meanwhile, the lakers last night lost to air bud, i think. [ laughter ] and also joining us on the show tonight, dr. oz is here. [ cheers and applause ] and, dr. oz brought vicodin for everyone! [ cheers and applause ] we would never do something like that. but dr. oz is going to give me a sonogram tonight. that way i know if i'm having a boy or a girl. why do i need a sonogram if i'm not pregnant? >> check your vital organs. >> jimmy: oh, i didn't even know i had those. good. maybe he'll give me some terrible news in front of everyone. the last time dr. oz was here -- maybe this was the time before. anyway, he did this. >> jimmy: oh no, are you really going to examine my testicles? oddly enough, blake griffin and chris paul did that to me the last time they were here. remember what dr. oz did to you, guillermo? >> yeah, jimmy. >> jimmy: there you go. >> testicle size -- >> jimmy: you kn

rand paul, senator rand paul, is running for president. he's running from a caucus in the republican caucus in the united states senate that is made up of people that think just like him, and that's a sad, sad state to watch, especially in light of someone like senators daniel inouye and senator ted stevens, not what i would call, you know -- what i would suggest to you about those two senators who have both passed away, they were old school. they were republicans and democrats from two different states with two different i hadologist ideologies but they would never in a billion years go on a network and say the kind of buffoon ri that plaintiff paul just said. clearly he's a dentist and not a constitutional lawyer. he has no clue what he's talking about. >> but also remember that with this president people are talking about seceding from the union -- >> yes. >> we have heard a lot of talk and we've talked about this a lot on your show, taking our country back and we always like to ask from who? >> yes. >> there are racial overtones to som