you're talking about when when the nuclear option was threatened over the appointment of i think was sam alito to the supreme court right and and you know that was one moment in time it was not a serious attention for a little above the rest of their it was a threat to you know vote for this guy we're going to have you listen and we're going to preach and out of this current if you listen to any of the speeches that these democrats gave it's very clear they're it's very clear that they're saying a change from the filibuster is truly a threat to democracy so now that is a show about their says that it takes two thirds or two thirds vote the sixty percent sixty percent vote sixty out of one hundred votes to even discuss anything and democracy by definition is anything over fifty percent yeah you have that i think that speech but i am telling you this is what democrats have said and. at any rate we're in a position now where i think the filibuster reform is worth looking at but not this if you're and if you're a democrat and you're doing this because you see political gain out of it and not

up the filibuster and the democrats are going to do that don't do that we'll give it we'll give you sam alito i mean this was a part of a huge remit because let me just as a really simple question don't you think that if the republicans took this if the republicans take the senate in two years what would your bet be that the first thing that leader mcconnell will do would be to blow up the filibuster here very likely to trim back the same way the democrats threaten to do this time this is they'll do what the donor is saying they're going to go as far but they're going to make some more progress and this is why this is dangerous you're getting close to buy you don't regard when they do it they set the precedent there ok well set the precedent or return democracy to america we'll see. rives grogan is a tenacious anti-abortion protester on inauguration day he climbed a tree to shut down the president's speech he's also racked up ten arrests and a half dozen convictions of two years in the house and senate buildings alone so in response to his latest antics antics a d.c. judge has banned gr

alito his nomination one of the democrats even threatened filibusters at anything close to what's done in one member the other appointments where they threaten that i don't know that they actually went through and used it but it's a tool that both parties have used in the past i think we can agree on that that one part of the problem here is and this and you can raise the specter of a filibuster threat in order to stop legislation without even take using the fillable i understand how that pledge that i've had from looking at this from a partisan perspective you know i remembered. emma crowds i don't remember you know read the history books democrats using using the filibuster of the threat of filibuster to stop the equivalent of civil rights legislation in the twenty's in the thirty's in the forty's well in the in the teens in the ots in the twentieth century thurmond as a dixiecrat exactly nine hundred forty eight walk out. but you know it. but here is the here's a chart of the use of the filibuster just nine hundred sixty five right i mean you know there are different different varia

the united states supreme court in 2008, scalia, clarence thomas, sam alito, john roberts, anthony kennedy in a 5-4 decision said that americans have a right to keep and bear arms, to have handguns, shotguns, hunting rifles to protect their families, to protect themselves. you know what the greatest danger to that second amendment right and that guarantee is right now? extremism from the survivalist wing of the nra that impacts republicans' policies nationwide and moves the republican party so far away from mainstream america that they lose the house, they lose the senate again in '14, and they lose the presidency again, and the next president will be democratic. and that president will be able to appoint one liberal justice after another that will gut our second amendment rights. it is extremism right now from the survivalist wing of the nra that is the greatest danger to gun rights. long-term gun rights in america, think about it, that's the real danger here for those of us who believe that the second amendment says what it says. >> so first you -- literally almost the morning after, to

. >> where scalia is, where justice thomas is, where sam alito is. those are not liberals. >> yeah. and i think if you have children and they grow up and they start to be human beings just like all of us and have -- face life, you become very, very, very scared about the things that they are surrounded with, the people that they connect with, the music they listen to, the media they see. you want our society to help you. don't you? >> of course you do. but it might prove less difficult to regulate guns than expression. and this is where the president has to come out. he's got a jaw bone on this issue. this is where the oval office becomes a classroom. he's got to teach and he's got to make the case that there's a moral and social responsibility to get this right. and this is part of a national conversation. and this will actually help in dealing with gun control because it will show he's not just attacking one part of the problem. but we've got to have a national conversation, and now's the moment. very rarely in life do you get these big windows. and what happened in connecticut op

. >> scalia agrees with us as does clarence thomas as does sam alito. the supreme court said you can regulate gun ownership and certainly, tom this is why the nra always loses the argument if you have a debate instead of having them hurl insults. at the end of the day, the justification is survivalist. the black helicopters are coming. i need this assault rifle to kill soldier when is they come to my house. >> for gets at a larger issue, the sporting gun owners need to speak up. >> they are starting to. >> the next four years, a wide variety have to get involved in the natural debate. it's not just about what goes on when it comes to climate change or when it comes to what we do about medicare and social security and how we deal with that. the aarp has dug in on those issues. there is going to have to be a development and it's a challenge for the president. i can offer the republican party. >> they are holding their breath right now. get their note pads out. >> they are where the democrats were. the democrats had gone completely to the left and didn't r

i love sam alito on every decision. george w. bush did some great things, but i will tell you what, he completely muddied the brand when it came to what is our core issue and what has always been our core issue, that we are a party of small government. and if you give the american people the choice between -- [applause] voting for a big government republican or a big government democrat, they'll vote for the big government democrat every single time. so what george w. bush did over eight years is destroy our brand, and as buckley said again of bush, you know, he's a conservative guy, but george w. bush is no conservative. >> joe, you really know how to work the crowd. i'm very impressed. >> no. >> we didn't talk about how taxes -- >> we should be the party of small government. >> so i'm so glad joe's remarks became before douthat's remark. the late bush years arguing that the main problem with bush wasn't that he wasn't a big government conservative after all, but i want to talk about this broader theme. joe isn't the only conser

i love sam alito on every decision. george w. bush did some great things but i will tell you why. he completely muddied the brand when it came to what is our core issue and what has always been our core issue. that we are a party of small government. and if you give the american people the choice between -- [applause] voting for a big government republican or a big government democrat, they will vote for the big government democrat every single time. so what george w. bush did over eight years is destroyed our brand. as buckley said again of bush, you know, he's a conservative guy, but george w. bush is no conservative. >> joe, you really know how to work the crowd. i'm and pressed. >> they believe we should be the party of small government. >> i'm so glad joe's remarks came right before ross douthat's remarks. because i believe ross douthat hadn't article edited by bill kristol. the main problem with bush wasn't -- i want to talk about a broader thing. joke isn't the only conservative out there believe republicans should be the party of small government. and ross, you've advance