. >> i'm evan smith. he's a best selling, critically acclaimed author oh has been writing about the media business for 25 years, last 11 for the "new york times". he's david carr. this is overheard. >> david carr, welcome. >> nice to be here. >> always nice to see you. let me ask you about your paper, the "new york times". many of us read it here and elsewhere. news the last couple of weeks, you had some departures from people who had been in the paper for a long time, names we knew, left. how are the moods around the office? what's the state of things there? >> i think people spend far too much time worrying about the mood of the "new york times" and not enough time sort of looking at the product. we all would like to think that we're absolutely essential to what happens there. and if we lose somebody as talented and as good as john geddis, our managing editor and john landon who played a significant role in the jason blair incident, all of a sudden the wheels are going to fly off the cart. never happens

i'm evan smith, this is overheard. [music]. >> fred armisen, welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks for being here. 11 seasons on snl puts you among the longest tenured people. >> yeah. >> i think daryl hammond and seth myers may be in the history of the show the only people to be in the cast longer than you. >> well, i haven't looked at how long people have been there. but that sounds about right. >> did you ever think when you started that this was something that you would do for this long? >> actually, yeah. i remember when -- when i first got the job, i thought i want to last for a while here. because i love saturday night live, i've always been a fan of the show and i really wanted to just be there a while and really just get into it. >> because burnout, of course, is always a risk. then there are times over the history of the show where people have been plucked away to go do movies or tv shows, they thought well this was the spring board for me. this really seems like the place you want to be. >> i feel v

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