back on the whole issue of john mccain, lindsey graham and others, john mccain also made the point of saying just as you said, wolf, that there's no need for boots on the ground. but the need, he said and this is proof just even this intelligence even though it's not completely confirmed, that they need to have some kind of in his words operational capability to secure these chemical weapons, not just of course assist those who are trying to overthrow the assad regime and so forth. it's the first and foremost goal of the united states right now needs to be to deal with these chemical weapons. of course as he said just in case to make sure i should say they don't get in the hands of other terrorist groups. >> dana, standby. senator mccain is joining us on the phone right now. senator, when you got this letter from the white house, what was your immediate reaction? >> well, my immediate reaction was that i was pleased that the president corroborated evidence that the israelis, the french and the british and others have concluded that bashar al assad had used chemical weapons. a little c

we also just received a briefing from senator mccain that said senator mccain received a letter from the white house with the president also describing some use of chemical weapons in syria. this important. as we get more information about this news, is this the red line that has been crossed by the bashar al-assad regime that would elicit more response from us, the united states. that is the big question that overhangs these remarks. as we get more information we'll bring that to you. jon: fox news alert we'll take you now to the campus of southern methodist university in

as i mentioned, john mccain often the hawk in these discussions. last night on fox, he went further. let's watch senator mccain. >> it's a shameful chapter in american history, and i hope that this new revelation of chemical weapons will move the president to do what he should have done two years ago. from the statement that's coming out of the white house, i'm not sure they will. >> there he is, shameful. what do you expect if the assad government falls in the next several months? or within the year? say. who wins? i was told today that we and our allies are prepared to spend $1 billion on this program going forward. and the idea is to train up, you know, hundreds of people every month and flow them into syria so you begin to have some framework. >> are they our people? >> these are people we're working with. >> vetted. >> we're working with a moderate general who the u.s. has -- >> are you confident as an analyst you think we could actually win this war? have the right side win? >> chris, i think the best outcome here is a negotiated settlement,

>> senator mccain, what is the main difference in the language of the bill compared to the mccain/kennedy bill? how much will the political -- [unintelligible] con tribute to a change in support for the bill? >> i think most republicans -- many more republicans than the last time are aware as marco thinkb pointed out so, i graphically that the status quo is not acceptable. the status quo is not acceptable. if you believe that then you will are willing to make yo exact plan or proposal for reformthat's why it is so import the -there isard nd vari viei' ye come together. the other thing about it is and a little straight talk here. straight talk. republicans have got to compete and i say compete for the hispanic voter. passage of this legislation in my view and i think my republican friends agree with me, doesn't gain a single vote from the hispanic community. but it puts us on a level where we can compete in a battle of ideas. we think we win with lower taxes, less government. we think we win. [laughter] let me just say -- right now a little straight talk. right now we're not competitive be

always the same ones, mccain, crystle, say the name of a country and war, let's go to war. let's not be afraid to use our strength. let's not apologize for our strength. let's have a muscular foreign policy is, all the metaphors for war that has us stuck in a country whose name we dare not pronounce a decade later. i spent all day yesterday at the george w. bush library. not once did i hear the word iraq. not once. if this crowd is so proud of the wars they pushed, why are they so afraid to remind us of the last one or pronounce the word. the bureau chief for mother james magazine. i want to start with david. you just came back from the middle east. what is happening? are we going into this war, syria? >> i think the first thing to say is that the white house is being very careful and weighing the evidence of chemical weapons used. i was just in israel. i sat with the israeli commanders as they presented their evidence, as they said nearly 100% solid in their minds syria has used chemical weapons. why is the white house waiting when president obama said this is a red line?

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you worked for senator mccain. you drafted a couple pieces of legislation for what congressional session? guest: i helped draft the mccain-kennedy proposal in 2006, which passed the senate, and not a house. i held with what is being called the kennedy-kyl proposal that was in 2007 while mccain was getting ready for his presidential bid. took no -- took the negotiations over. they're based on a fundamental draft was put together in 2005- 2006 known as mccain-kennedy which went through the committee process and became hodgepodge on the floor. biggest sticking point during those negotiations? guest: that is a good question. i would say the temporary worker program was definitely the point in 2007 where we really hit a wall. if you look back at the floor debate, there was a crucial amendment that sunset did the temporary worker program after five years. once that passed by one vote, the whole process teleport. aboutteresting part drafting immigration legislation, involves a lot of labor law. you have a whole different

senator mccain made that very clear. we need to up our game. we need to up our game where the aid goes. too much of it is going to assad-controlled regions. that we have to make sure we're starting to do more with night goggles, armor, all kinds of things, and we have to keep these possibilities of senator mccain raised clearly on the front burner with the no-fly zone, with arming the rebels, but we cannot do this alone. it is an incredible scene what's happening in jordan. 2,500 refugees a day coming in. >> the interesting thing, mike murphy, as a political matter, this is something that will divide democrats. but republicans, too. and that's one of the things senator mccain has been speaking to. >> no, it's a complicated situation with a lot of difficult politics around it. i've been enjoying at least as an observe esh of washington the red line because the red line has turned into about a mile wide. it's a problem for a president when you draw a red line, the world is watching, including the iranians. the political problem is the country has

don't celebrate john mccain's birthday while a deadly storm hits new orleans. i could do this all day. torture people or don't torture people. don't torture people. deregulate and tax cut the country into financial ruin or don't tax cut the country into financial ruin. there is no reason to overthink the bush presidency. it was just as bad as you thought. as bush himself might advise, when you're considering his legacy, go with your gut. >>> joining us is colonel wilkerson, former chief of staff, currently professor of government at the college of william and mary. what was your reaction to watching the circumstance of the george w. bush rehabilitation reputation today? >> the biggest thing that hit me, because torture was the issue that made me go public in 2005 was when he stood in front of the library and said people will be able to come to this library and see we stayed true to our convictions. this at the same time a week ago the constitution project on detainee treatment released its report which answered two really big questions. did the united states to

there is john mccain and paul ryan echoing what mccain said. i think with the exception of coates, grassley and rand paul, whom you had on your screen there as you were doing your intro, i would say that most republicans that i've heard have actually been pretty reasonable about this and have kind of said that there is nothing in immigration law that would have prevented us letting these guys in the united states when they were 9 and 16 years old and buying able to tell that they were going to grow up to go terrorists. >> cenk: isis senator mccain correct saying that this should only accelerate the process? >> i'm not sure about that. what immigration change could we make that would stop something like this? i don't think there is one. i don't think that's a good argument against passing immigration. as i wrote about gun control many times it's obviously not the case that background checks would have necessarily have prevented newtown or a new massacre but that's not an argument for not doing anything. similarly, you know, the fact that this ha

you've got john mccain who his senior aide said he is confident mccain's vote will be a yes. and we're still waiting on jeff flake. as he close personal friend of gabby giffords. they represent a state that went through the trauma of tucson. so they come at this with both the personal experience that their state has gone through and the red state experience. so they will be important to watch as this unfolds. >> i'm curious, kelly. what kind of behind the scenes details can you give us regarding the reaction to the mother of one of the children whose life was taken down in that massacre, giving the president's weekend address? >> well, i have been very struck by of all the kinds of individuals who have deeply personal cause who's come to the senate or come to capitol hill to try to make their voices heard, and on different subjects it happens quite often. the senators i talk to really expressed a deep sense of connection to the families. a sense of wanting to do something in addition to listening to then, but those who, especially democrats, want to take action. republicans,

always it's the same ones, mccain, kristol. say the name of the country and their conditioned response is war, america go to war. let's not be afraid to use our strength. the neocon babble. let's have a muscular foreign policy. all the metaphors for war that has us stuck once again in a country whose name we dare not pronounce a decade later. i spent all day yesterday at the george w. bush library. not once did i hear the word iraq. not once. if this crowd is proud of the wars they pushed, why are they afraid to remind us of the last one or even pronounce the word? david cornyn for "mother jones" magazine and david ignatius. you came back from the middle east, sir. what is happening? are we going into this war? syria? >> i think the first thing to say is the white house is being very careful in weighing the evidence of chemical weapons use. i was just in israel. i sat with the israeli commanders as they presented their evidence, as they said nearly 100% solid in their minds that syria has used chemical weapons. the question is

i'm always amazed by john mccain. there's a good john mccain, not so good john mccain. let's go to the good john mccain. he's really the only red stater of his party to cross the aisle and vote with basically gun safety people. and he's from arizona. what do you know about that? >> and one of the only westerners as well. >> only westerner. >> this was a pretty classic case of john mccain the maverick, if you will. he broke from his other home state senator, the junior senator jeff flake who was under a lot of pressure to vote with democrats on this bill. when he went and said last night that he was going to vote no, that was one of the tipping points. that was when people up here started to really say, you know what? we don't think we can get this. >> it was like trying to get an inside straight. there's seven people. you needed five of thel. it was really tough. >> it was difficult to get. kasie's absolutely right. flake is somebody who talked bravely about this. and who was sort of, i think, somewhat influenced by mccain. then pulled back at the end. he doesn't want t

we also just received a briefing from senator mccain that said senator mccain received a letter from the white house with the president also describing some use of chemical weapons in syria. this important. as we get more information about this news, is this the red line that has been crossed by the bashar al-assad regime that would elicit more response from us, the united states. that is the big question that overhangs these remarks. as we get more information we'll bring that to you. jon: fox news alert we'll take you now to the campus of southern methodist university in dallas, texas, where the u.s. army chorus is performing "america the beautiful" at the dedication of the george w. bush library. let's listen. ♪ [music playing] ♪ [singing. ♪ ♪ >> america, america, i shed his grace on thee. and crown guy good with motherhood from sea to shining sea. ♪ [music playing] ♪ oh beautifu [singing] ♪ . ♪ . ♪. much. [applause] applause. >> ladies and gentlemen, president jimmy carter. [applause] >> this is it a great honor for me to be here today and remind me of my favori

i don't think in the end john mccain would have won that race. maybe it would have been closer but i agree with john mccain in this case. the outcome without have been largely the same. >> great to see you, robert. thank you. >> thank you, thomas. >> president obama is expected to tap his pick for the next head of the transportation department and his pick is fox he's also the first african american among the president's picks. fox would replace outgoing ray lahood, one of the few republicans serving in the obama administrati administration. >> hurricane sand, how new jersey is restoring the shore. >> ricin arrest, another suspect in jail today. and our question today to you should the u.s. take military action in syria? the allergy m. you know who you are. you can part a crowd, without saying a word... if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts... well muddlers, muddle no more. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts wo

coming up, a conversation with senator john mccain. first, a look at some other stories making news on his tuesday morning. joining us is nancy. good morning. >> an update on the middle east from secretary of state john kerry. he has held a very constructive talk with israeli and palestinian leaders during three days of diplomacy. he says that everyone is committed to continuing the process that could create conditions for peace. direct israeli-palestinian talks can resume. back in washington, the senate meets today, one of many issues on the agenda is immigration. in a report this morning, officials say there are arguments over plans to boost visas for high-tech workers and disputes on how to punish companies that train workers in the united states only to ship them overseas. the senate meets at 10 a.m. eastern time. watch live coverage on c-span 2. turning back to international news, earlier today, north korea urged all foreign companies and tourists in south korea to evacuate, saying the two companies are on the verge of nuclear war

senator mccain is talking about an international force going in. you can work through local proxies, local allies, start with more civilian aid. before they can provide any training or humanitarian aid to steering opposition member, they're asked 11 questions, name of their father, national i.d. number, vetted through a terrorism list. our people are terrified of mistakenly training one jihadist, because they know they'll be pounced on in washington. on our division at home is leading us to be too cautious, and we have no power abroad, because we're so divided at home. >> well, you know what, david? for those of us watching from home, i arab spring started out looking so hopeful. you look at egypt -- are we in the beginning of a long process, or has the arab spring sort of been a net failure? >> i think we don't know yet. i look at it through a different lens. to me there's a historic struggle going on across the middle east right now. eye jept is the best example, between conservative muslims, and more extremists who have weapons, and more liberal

>>p>es momento de nuestra primera pausa y al regresar el senador republicano john mccain habla de la propuesta de control de armas. >>> y pasaremos revisión a los momentos más emotivos de la jornada, ya regresamos ♪. >>> el senador republicano john mccain dijo que estaba dispuesto a presentar y apoyar la propuesta bipartidista para el control de armas, también se defendió la medida que será presentada a votación. >>> las autoridades de texas dicen que han encontrado pruebas muy fuertes que por más de 6 hrs los investigadores inspeccionaron un almacen donde se incautó un vehículo que presuntamente fue usado para el asesinato del fiscal y su esposa. >>> al del adolescente trayvon martin fue despedido, el sargento estaba en ua práctica de tiro cuando sacó los blancos con la imagen del adolescente asesinado por george zimmerman >>> y ahora pasamos a lo que está sucediendo en los deportes alrededor del mundo. >>> muchísimas gracias, hemos vivido otra jornada emocionante del fútbol mexicano, 5 victorias de local, 2 de visitante, 2 empates, adelante con el resumen. >>> en el

i had the privilege to go with senator mccain down to the border between arizona and mexico. i was with senator mccaul and secretary napolitano. mccall and secretary napolitano. i saw a border that is more secure than we have had in a long time. andg with senator mccain mayors and law enforcement officers, i was told that the crime rates in the communities were the lowest in decades and continue to decline. i saw parts of the border that were overrun with illegal immigration. to rest more than 1000 people every single day. today, they have been busy day if they arrest even 50 people. that is a remarkable development. it is clearly significant change would be better. it is also consistent with the dramatic reductions we have seen of people trying to cross our borders illegally, which have reached their lowest levels since the 1970's. ofave seen the development technology like cameras and radar. the man i spoke with told me these technologies help them pinpoint what people are trying to cross the border illegally so that agents can make an arrest and turn them back. we heard ab

this is to john mccain. it stays intelligence community does assess with varying degrees of confidence that the syrian regime has on a small chemical weapons on their own people. jeremy from the hill says their staff writer writes on defense issues, mr. herb, how does the white house treat this information that came yesterday? guest: well, they have reacted with caution on the next steps on whether or not to red line has been crossed. and white house officials said they still did not have enough evidence to corroborate the chemical weapons had been used. they did not stay red line had been crossed. they said the evidence was still being collected before determining next steps they were going to take. host: is there any sense on how long this process of determining evidence will take from the white house? >> no. today didn't give me a timeline. they said they obviously want to do it as quickly as possible d talked about the assad regime allowing the united nations and but said they had other sources on the gr

but senator mccain already on record criticizing in some ways. >> the other person usually the ally in the senate, lindsey graham has been quoted as saying he is not suggesting the u.s. should act unilaterally. so there isn't, there is certainly a movement on capitol hill that something has to be done. there's not unanimity on what do you do. there's a lot of hesitance. not just the obama administration and the white house. also among republican hawks about getting the u.s. military involved in a unilateral faction or even a very small coalition. the question now, it could be the administration is trying to buy a little time here. to get an international coalition together that is viable. and of course, the biggest player here has to be russia, right? does this change russia's view on assad? do the russians publicly come out and could not chemical this at some point? they have said for them, chemical weapons is a red line. does the u.s. government feel they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt here, that was certainly the pledge they were trying to send in this conference call. we n

even though they were saying earlier at a press conference this could be call the mccain mccain-schumer bill. it's not the rubio bill, per se. he is a key part of t but he is taking the role of the chief spokesman of the group to the conservatives. >> michael: how valuable is this bill? what is your sense of what it will look lick by the like by the time it comes down for a vote. >> i think there will be amendments on both sides. it's likely that progressives will include something that like same-sex couples there might be amendments aimed of killing the bill entirely. but i think they vowed to make the bills stay stay at the original vision. they're willing to consider amendments. they're not trying to block all amendments, according to them, but i think they're committed to try to get it over the finish line as close to what it is as they possibly can. >> michael: elise foley, it will make you smarter if you read her in the "huffington post" on this issue. thank you for joining us in "the war room." coming up next, it's called global warming for a reason. the u.n.'s chief top negotiat

this is the last straw for senator mccain. he believes and others believe that we should have been involved long ago. not because of chemical weapons, but because million of angry refugees are being created in that part of the world. that's dangerous. >> what about the opposition? you still have that concern about for example, senator john mccain wanting to then opposition and we still like with libya, we don't know who all of the players are there. >> there is a very tragic irony that is unfolding here. over the past two years, where we were in the beginning when this was a peaceful nonviolent uprising against the regime. there was an inaction because people didn't want to internationalize the conflict or regionalize the conflict. they were sitting on the sidelines saying we don't want to get involved in a domestic syrian affair. here we are two years later. it is spilled over with the refugees. armies coming from hezbollah fighters. there is an irony that now we are being forced into action when two years ago, it would have

but you watch senators like mccain and how will they vote. how will they vote? how will they decide on which were to go on this? this week,pitol hill lawmakers are said to hear testimony on the tsa controversial plan to allow knives on commercial airplanes. despite objections from some members of commerce, the tsa commissioner wants to love two- inch pocketknives, hockey sticks airplanes.l bats on a metro air operator was caught on camera apparently using a cell phone while behind the controls. click the incident has right is concerned for their safety. >> this is the photo posted on the critical blog that had people talking. what do you think this guy is doing? x he is on his found. he is doing something he's not supposed to be doing. he is opposed to be paying attention to the safety of the people. >> he is not paying attention. >> the driver appears to be looking down at something in his left hand during >> he is -- left-hand. >> he is texting. he is not supposed to be doing that while driving the metro, right? >> how does that make you feel? why c should be

senators john mccain and kelly ayotte are questioning whether or not the u.s. intelligence community adequately shared information leading up to the boston marathon boston. in a joint statement they write in part, quote. it does not appear the money spent toward the information sharing environment put into place after 9/11 were useful in apprehending the tsarnaev brothers specifically tamerlan tsarnaev. now authorities are turning to the suspects' parents for answers and both are said to be cooperating in the investigating. the father anzor is expected to arrive in the u.s. tomorrow for more questioning. that should be interesting. >> what do they know and when did they know it? brian, we now have two times the russians reached out to our intel agencies and said you guys need to be worried about these brothers. >> can you call it a failure when there is 500,000 people on a watch list, joe in i don't know. this was, obviously, a failure. right? the fbi went and spoke with them. i'm more curious about the mother. if she saw the pictures of her sons on television

republicans are rubio florida, john mccain arizona, lindsey graham, south carolina, the democrats are dick durbin illinois, robert mendez new jersey, chuck schumer new york and michael bennett colorado and i think schumer is the head of this group. >> yes, he is. >> go ahead. >> well, senator schumer and mccain met with reporters last week, and basically mccain said if they pass this bill republic the republicans back on the playing field where they can compete. you can't compete in a country where the hispanics are going to be the majority of some states. so there is political incentive on the republicans side. americans for tax reform did a poll among republicans only. two-thirds of republicans support this bill as it's described. you call it amnesty. i don't call it amnesty if you have to pay back taxes, pay some pretty hefty fees and it's 13 years before you can become citizen. but this does legalize people, gets them out of the shadows, and strengthens our defenses, frankly, if you know who is in the country as opposed to just having people in the shadows. and i would say call th

john mccain, mccain was going to clean up the system. that bill mccain-feingold create did zero. i believe a lot of it is the race for money. i'm asked constantly on radio shows about members of congress are they good or bad. there are some people that we know since i've got in trouble have gotten in trouble. but the system itself is doomed corruption. anything jack abramoff and i did, i ate sushi with jack abramoff and i went to scotland with jack abramoff. if i'm a lobbyist and you're a congressman today, i give true examples in the book that happened. examples in the book sometimes with names omitted for a reason. you can produce names. if i want to i can take you to alaska. we can hunt. we can have a $3000 to $4000 dinner. ando that and i can raise you $75,000. i can then take you a staffer and may be some of your family, we can have a $2000 or $3000 a dinner. it's all legal. as long as we stand and at the reception and eat. i can have meals. alice fisher in her announcement, see said congressman used fundraiser. everybody on that hill today. i was charged, i pled guilty. giv

criticas . >> habrán distintas propeustas ,todo es legitimo y positivo . >> por otra parte el senador mccain dijo que estaba confundido . >> es justo lo opuesto, es un argumento a favor de identificar a la gente . >> los recursos serán fuindamentales para el público en general y los miembros republicanos del congreso para la reforma migratoria. >> una ley anti inmigrantes que regia desde el 2006 fue derogada hoy cuando el gobernador del estado firmó una nueva medida, significa que los jefes de por lno estarán obligados a informar a las autoridades federales cuando arresten un sospechoso que sea indocumentado, la ley derogada por mayoría demócrata habría sido ampliamente criticado ,propietarios de empresas empacadores de carne podrían contratar empleados agrícolas, así lo plantea un programa de visas en el comité de cámara de representantes, que busca reemplazar un programa que consideran lento y burocrático, permitiría visas para 500 mil indocumentados . >> un estudio determinó que los hispanos pagan más por las propiedades que compran que los blancos, ¿cuánto más y por qu

y john mccain se mostraron optimistas. >>> el respaldo es necesario a la propuesta que es compromiso de todos, que incluye a robert menendez que ayudÓ a redactarlo. >>> es la mejor ley que hemos podido escribir donde podemos conseguir los votos bipartidistas. aquellos que vivan para el 31 de diciembre del 2011 van a recibir un estatus provisional que durarÍa diez aÑos y ayudaria para viajar al exterior, condiciones del permiso provisional en pantalla. >>> solo asÍ despuÉs de una dÉcada podrÍan solicitar la residencia permanente despuÉs de pagar una multa de mil dÓlares. >>> tratando de remediar el dolor causado por las deportaciones el plan permitirÍa que las personas sin rÉcord criminal que tengan un hijo o cÓnyuge ciudadano estadounidense podrÍan solicitar al pais. >>> es algo importante, a final de cuentas es algo que estÁ en nuestro mejor interÉs econÓmico y social como paÍs. >>> 4,5 mil millones de dÓlares para la seguridad fronteriza. en las zonas de alto riesgo 90% de las personas que intentan cruzar se de tendrÍan y guardia nacional para construir vayas y t

senator mccain what made you decide to vote yes? >> well, i just thought that the bill was appropriate, that t the -- i've always been opposed to to the gun show loophole so i thought it was the right thing to do. >> can i ask you, senator mccain? this vote is probably going to come up again. joe manchin will be working democrats. you certainly have a lot of influence over kelly ayotte in new hampshire. would you encourage her if she could be the deciding vote to support background checks? >> i've never done that in the years i've been here. i talk to kelly. i talk to many of my other colleagues, but it's up to them. they are grown people and they make their own decisions. i've never been one who has gone out and told people what i think they ought to do. i've made my case and let them make up their own minds. >> let's make a turn now to another, if you can believe it, big story that we're following here which is an attempt at a bipartisan immigration plan. senator schumer, if you can give us a sense where we stand there first. >> t

mccain says no boots on the ground. but mccain says the so-called red line has been crossed and he is endorsing, he's not alone, he is endorsing providing aid and assistance to the rebels, whoever the rebels are. and some of the rebels may be kwaetd. is that -- may be al qaeda. is that what we are thinking of dog, rearming the rebels? >> i can't speak for senator mccain, certainly, if i understand his comments, he's talking about rebels we feel we can support. in other words, there are a lot of bad actors there, al qaeda, foreign fighters, including chechens and libyans. he wants this i have said myself over the past few years, we should develop a force that will support intour in the long run. and the administration has done nothing beyond nonlethal aid. there may be training going on. it's murky, it's not clear. we aren't using the assets we can use to make it beneficial to u.s. interests in the end. it looks very, very grim right now, larry. >> general mccaffrey, okay, maybe a training force of some kind. you know, s

and mccain also warned about the possible ramifications if the united states remains on the sidelines. >> the syrian people are angry and bitter at the united states. i was in a refugee camp in jordan and there are thousands of people and kids and this woman who's a schoolteacher said, senator mccain, you see these children here? they're going to take revenge on those people who refused to help them. >>> now to boston. two weeks after the marathon bombings, investigators are still working to understand how the tsarnaev brothers were radicalized. over the weekend, we learned russian authorities briefed the u.s. officials in the days after the attack about a 2011 conversation between the older suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev, and his brother, in which they discussed jihad and a possible trip to palestinian territory. however, that information, which was captured through a wiretap, was apparently not shared with u.s. intelligence until after the april 15th bombings. counterterrorism officials have also confirmed the tsarnaev's mother was placed on the cia's counterterrorism database in the fa

and then you have the other side, graham and mccain who say, enemy combatant, no miranda, et cetera. jay, where do you fall on it? >> i think the department of justice right now has done the right thing by utilizing the public policy exception to the mirandaizing. that gives the department of -- >> explain briefly what that is. >> if in fact based on evidence that this plot was more extensive. if it is more extensive, and we have no evidence of any of this, the government's going to find that out quickly. then they can make the decision to declare him an enemy combatant that way. i think it gives him time. look, this is not a crime. this is an act of terror, an act of war against the united states. the fact that they're a u.s. citizen, the supreme court just said even if you're a u.s. citizen, you could be held as an enemy combatant. i think based on what we're hearing, that decision will ultimately be made by the attorney general. but i think this is the clearly the case based on what we know for enemy combatant status. that would give us more time to investigate. do we want a prose

last call for senator john mccain. good morning. >> caller: yes, senator mccain. i want to thank you for your service, sir. >> guest: thank you. >> caller: i admire you thank you very much. >> guest: thank you. >> caller: the thing i'm worried about with north korea, i'm ex-vietnam navy marine corpsman, i know it is a tell against -- he will intelligence black hole. i think they have a gun on us and we don't know if it is a blank or a real bullet in the gun. if we file one of the missiles how do we really know it is not tipped with a nuclear weapon? and they're threatening every day to do this. i wonder what can we do about this? will we wait to fire a missile? at japan or seoul or, you know, and, my second question is, i wanted to ask you, about when you were on your aircraft carrier when it caught fire, i always wanted to find the damage control officer. i wanted to ask him, i remember at that time when i was in the navy, we had a nuclear washdown system on aircraft carriers and i know one of the problems was we couldn't get to it because of the heat on the deck

let's watch john mccain, the gun safety man. >> i'm john mccain, with some straight talk. convicted felons have been able to buy and sell thousands of guns at gun shows because of a loophole in the law. many were later used in crimes. that's wrong. >> governor, can we win this fight with archaeology like that? digging up old tapes from the -- the sacred scrolls, if you will? >> maybe, chris. but, you know, i think representative cummings hit on a very important point. we can't let that nra bill be a distraction. we can't let people say, well, i voted to do something about gun safety, i voted to make our schools safer. first of all, it doesn't work. in columbine, one of the worst tragedies in the history of this country, there was an armed guard on the school grounds. it didn't help a bit because those armed guards who carry pistols, maybe a glock, are going to be outgunned by these mad men all the time because we don't do anything about assault rifles or high capacity magazines. look, the fight isn't over. it isn't over. and we can win this if we can get it to the floor. w

[ cheers and applause ] senator john mccain went on tv this week. called kim jong-un a clown and a fool. [ cheers ] well, as you know, according to john mccain, that would still make him eligible to be vice president of the united states. so that's not that bad really. [ applause ] this was kind of interesting. a u.s. intelligence agency has put together a psychological profile of kim jong- un, and they say's he is a narcissist. he is obsessed with hollywood, obsessed with plastic surgery and obsessed with the nba. a condition we -- well, we know that in this country as kardashianism. that's kardashianism. that is the same basic -- [ applause ] well, if you flew out here, you probably know this already. because of the whole sequester thing, the faa has imposed furloughs on air traffic controllers, their layoffs. and of course, a lot of passengers feel uneasy about taking off and landing knowing there's nobody in the control tower sleeping.