and barbara bush now, michael gerson, what about barbara bush and what she said about jeb? >> i think she speaks her mind, under any circumstance. and i think she is, you compare her to laura bush's remarks which were very politic, which was normal for her and i think barbara bush is a recognition in her case, that they've been through a lot. there may well be a feeling thaw know, that this is kind of a tiredness there on her part that they've been through many of these cycles. i think jeb bush is one of the most qualified people for that job and i think he would be a very serious candidate. >> this does not mean that he wouldn't be running, it just means that momma doesn't want him to. >> exactly. dan, we've talked a lot about the legacy so far on the program, of president bush and the things that were mentioned today, by president carter, sudan, the fact that he lived up to the promise and appointed former senator dan forth to go to sudan and try to work on that peace agreement. pepfar which has been lauded globally. it still is by presidents and secretaries of state. the