the two main salafi organizations in egypt, 1913 and 1926. the movement in egypt starts in 1930. is it such a consequences den that this golden age of liberal age in egypt we get all the movements. doesn't that mean there was something wrong wrong there? doesn't it mean there was something there. it's been a personal quest in a sense to find an answer to that. what was it that was wrong with the beginning. where did egypt go wrong? from the beginning or the middle? where did we where did the instructive path we are set on begin? the conventional wisdom there were great -- they had imported the idea of europe attempt to modernize their country. then something happens. often historians call the late 1930s or' 30s in general a crisis of orientation in egyptian history. a new emerges that trajects not a lot of explanation. but trajects this orientation toward europe. in 1938 of the future of education in egypt. often given as the turning point of history. is there warning? egypt does not belong to arab or islamic world. no one ever talked about -- belonging to it. egypt became islami

his article in one of egypt's newspapers. i think it's overwhelming support. >> what would have to occur to transform this broad support for the military action in to an effective civilian government that may eventually evolve in to -- whether they want to or not. the big question now, of course, you have removed the president from power. does anyone actually think you're going allow them to win the elections any time soon? of course not. or you're saying you're going lose it the next min. if the muslim brotherhood wins the election, it will naturally mean the general at the politicians who support it. i think we're talking about a system of competitive hypocrisy. call it something like that. where by elections to take place where by part of the population or the ideological fabric of the country is excluded from the political process and -- perhaps the stability in the future. just to pursue this. the new regime say a ban on political parties based on religion. how will that affect the community? the community would be extre

no. >> it is very egypt. even a kid in egypt as you would put him in jail. this system has been abolished. this was one of the first things to be abolished by the revolution. today, they have been putting it back. mubarak is out. >> and morsi is out too, by the way. >> the army is on the borders. this man is talking like we have democracy. today, all opposition is either in prison -- 19,000 people have been arrested. 3000 people have been dead in two months. it doesn't exist anywhere. >> how many bombs have we discovered? >> the army is on the border. >> how many police officers have been murdered? >> where is the civil society? he is a policeman. he does not have a place in government. >> why shouldn't a former official of the interior ministry have a legitimate place in speaking? >> he put fifth teen -- 15 in different cities. 13 are military and to our police men. we had a revolution -- two are policeman. we had a revolution to drive them out and they are back. >> you have to agree -- >> i agree that the only way to find pieces of democratic process. no a

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egypt starts in 1913. this is such a course of its that in this group and this liberal age in egypt we get all those illiterate movements? doesn't that mean there was something wrong there? doesn't mean that there was something there that's left the emergence of all those movements? so it's been a personal quest in essence to find an answer to that. what was it that was wrong with the beginning? where did he get to go wrong? wasn't from the very beginning? was in the middle? where did this destructive path that we're set on begin? the conventional wisdom has been that there were great liberals. they had imported the ideas of europe, attempted to modernize the country, and then something happened. often, historians call the late-night teen '30s or '30s until the crisis of orientation in egyptian history. a new generation emergence that projects, a lot of reasons why. the book in 1938 about the future of education in egypt has often given as the turning point in history. he is there warning. egypt did not be

in egypt? there other ways than the u.s. and you understand what they mean or are they going to wait to see whoever's going to come into power? >> is anyone in the international community have a real plan to support its? >> i agree with that very much. they are two things the united states can offer to egypt that would really make a difference to egypt's future. trade and investment. investment really has to do with how business people perceive the political and security environment in egypt. there isn't that much the united states government can do that really is in the hands of egyptian so there's actually a lot of american businesses that were interested in investing in egypt and in fact almost exactly a year ago the u.s. chamber of commerce organized one of the largest business allegations ever in the world to egypt. 100 ceos and top leaders and top american business went to egypt. they had a very productive week there. as they were giving their press conference a mob of protesters was brea

egypt is not a strong ally. egypt is the third country after israel and the united states that doesn't have a full relationship with iran as of today. the second foundation for the tourist was military relation. they thought we had serious leverage over it egyptian military. secretary of defense chuck hagel called his counterpart in egypt, general nothing happened in terms of changing the equation of the relation as we speak. there is no serious discussion in washington of stopping the eight. articles,in one of my stopping the aid for several months. >> thank you! thank you, thank you, thank you all very, very much. steak , 36 harkin 36th friday, 36th and we haven't fried a steak yet. i don't know where that name ever came from. as you heard, i have a better record, a better winning reak, 45 years of love and partnership with a woman by the name of ruth harkin. [cheers and applause] >> i thank you, ruth, for those keend words, a very formidable troduction by a formidable woman, the only woman county attorney at

egypt shook. while tutankhamun's predecessor was creating a terrifying political and religious situation on the one hand, on the other he was able to infuse egyptian art with a revolutionary human warmth. akhenaten's ideas were strong enough to echo down through the next few kings. tutankhamun's reign, shortly thereafter, was to bear witness to this great flowering of artistic achievement. while there were many tombs larger than his, filled with vast arrays of objects, it has been argued that no tomb--other than akhenaten's-- would have contained objects of a higher creative quality than tutankhamun's. howard carter had this to say about the art found in tutankhamun's tomb: howard carter: "among the immense quantities of material "in tutankhan's tomb-- as also exhibited "in the beautiful reliefs of his reign "in the great colonnade of the temple of luxor-- "we find extreme delicacy of style, "together with character of the utmost refinement. "in the case of a painted scene, vase, or statue, "the p

and egypt. at the time of the revolution, the united states should have started to restructure its relationship to egypt to have it include goals that go beyond security and strategic cooperation. that did not happen for reasons that we can discuss later on the panel. now i think the united states faces a real moment of truth where we have to make a decision about what is really important to us with respect to egypt. for that reason i think we should suspend aid and tell -- until egypt is more clearly on a democratic path, and that will make it clear that the u.s. interests in egypt include a successful democratic rosses, that that is something is in the units interest, that if we continue military aid, business as usual, the signal we will send is that we accept what the egyptian government is doing, and i do not inc. united states government should send that signal. i think we should send a different signal. continue, you just asked the question, what does the u.s. want from egypt right now? i

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what happened to egypt's revolution? >> was the military responding to the will of the people or making this all happen? >> and what will come next? >> with sisi, we have something much more ominous, much more dangerous. >> global post's charles sennt reports for frontline. >> we got to really go this way. come on. >> on egypt in crisis. >> frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from: and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support for frontline is provided by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation. committed to building a more just, verdant, and peaceful world. more information is available at macfound.org. additional funding is provided by the park foundation. dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the wyncote foundation. and by tfrontline journalism fund with grants from millicent bell through the millicent and eugene bell foundation. and scott nathan and laura debonis. >> sennott: two and a half years ago, i came to egypt and witnessed what we t

bachmann, gomer and king went to egypt to say to the good and kind people in egypt that the growing pains their country is experiencing in its temporary militarily imposed re respite from democracy can be cured with a quick shot of vitamins. >> i'm reminded of the words of thomas payne, he said in america law is king. >> our declaration of independence is the consent of the people that allow a government to function. >> our founding fathers wrote a message i think will resonate. >> thomas jefferson. >> george washington. >> the united states constitution that i carry in my pocket every day i wear a jacket. >> jon: and another thing, what is with round bread. you can't get into it. there is no way to fill it with sandwich. in america, we use sliced square bread. i think you'll agree it is easier to handle. you need to make some changes. why am i talking like a brooklyn guy with these people. it is the one time i could have used my southern guy. i need my afro back. could these three people be any more condescending? i think we all know the answer to that. >> that's what we're about in ame

welcome to sophie and co i'm sophie shevardnadze and egypt is at a crossroads actually it's been there for quite a while without finding the way to move on after the opposing dictator barricades to first green shoots of democracy appeared but just after a year in office egypt's first ever democratically elected leader mohamed morsy was removed as well now the question is what's next. mubarak i've stood morsi i've stood protests continuing people dying. how much more blood has to spill to achieve stability and how many more changes at the top are heaps leaders just puppets of the real pharaoh the military will disown the ever rise over egypt will the ancient land of noah finds peace and flourish again. and our guest today is not being a fox need a minister of foreign affairs of egypt's interim government for a minister it's great to have you in our to studios today with us thank you for having me right so it's not a dictatorship right now in egypt it's not quite a democracy and people are talking about the military rule who is really in charge of the country it's very clear the people a

but does this mean more democracy for egypt, or a return to the past? our chief foreign affairs correspondent margaret warner reports from cairo. >> the chamber of the upper house of parliament, a committee rewriting egypt's constitution for the second time in as many years, convened at the initial session on sunday. it was an over-50 cloud of statesmen clerics, business leaders and generals and one figure, a young man wearing a t- shirt no one had heard of. he was mahmoud batter, a leader of the rebel movement that led a petition against mohammed morsi and his muslim brotherhood-led government, triggering nationwide protest on june 30. two days later on july 3, the army chief appeared on television to say egypt's armed forces had removed the first democratically elected leader in the country's history. one of the fellow co-founders, mack meuld al-faka has no apologies for returning to the mill tore to out oust the president he voted for, who came to believe he was serving the islamist agenda, not egypt. >> actually all of the co- founders votedded for

we're in egypt to serve. we're in egypt to demonstrate the christian love. we do everything effort to be self-restrained and to show the christian love that the lord has taught us to show. >> reporter: the churches are asking for prayer and support from the church worldwide. >> what happens in egypt affects everybody. we're asking them to pray for the country. we're asking them to pray for christians. we're asking them to pray for the military. and we're asking them to pray for the government, the existing government, that the lord may give them wisdom and guidance in every decision they make. >> reporter: while living under threats, they vow to continue their ministries. they say their buildings have been destroyed, but the church goes on, and their faith remains in jesus christ, who promised he would build his church. chris mitchell, cbn news, minia, egypt. >> george: and one other item from the region, an iranian court has rejected pastor saeed abedini's appeal. he was convicted for his christian faith. his wife, naghmeh expressed disappointment in the un

egypt is the cornerstone of the middle east, so really how goes egypt, so goes the middle east in many respects. >> there is a little tradition of democracy in that part of the world. egypt had a monarchy. >> unlike the early days of egyptian monarchic democracy, good way of describing it. egypt was weirdly cut off from everything. tourists came, but basically it was cut off. now everybody in egypt, poor, rich, educated, uneducated, they're in touch with the rest of the world and know what they're missing. that's one of the revolutionary forces. >> what about the broader question. in the end, will we see the arab spring as bang good thing as everybody thought it was when it happened, but now seeing chaos in libya, yemen is problematic, syria, you know, we have discussed ad nauseam over the past few weeks. >> i think your original question about the cultural and religious element here to the middle east, many people where the arab spring broke out thought this was going to be the fourth wave of democracy, europe, latin america, eastern europe and now the middle east was going to go in t

to respond and help what the masses in egypt wanted for him to go. what we know is that he was elected freely by everyone in egypt at the end of the day this is how democracy works people go to the ballot box they choose somebody and this person stays there for their term his term was four years so he's spent one year for people to remove him they have to go back to the ballot box not through the masses not through people on the ground what we've seen is a very obvious and this is a text book who what happened is illegitimate coup is always something illegal you cannot actually accept a crew in twenty thirteen anymore what we're seeing now is very obvious and it's very clear what the people on. streets that millions of egyptians now are doing on the streets of egypt they will never go back to the time of work they'll never go back to they will carry on peacefully resisting this military and. democratic gesture from the military after all. a little earlier what about concessions from both sides in the conflict could resolve this political crisis the b

securing egypt's future. are those you might have missed our tables, we are selling the middle east journal. one of the only peer-reviewed middle east journals out there. a lot of interesting issues involving egypt. please stop by their touring the break after this panel. afterase stop by there the break following this panel. the second panel examines the challenges of overcoming the extreme polarization and division in egypt and was entitled am a working towards national reconciliation. this panel will look at the factors that triggered the first revolution in 2011 and led to the second in 2013. we will examine how these acing demands areasic going to be met or can be met in this next phase of egypt's lyrical development. -- elliptical development -- political development. them veryto introduce briefly. longer bios are in your program books. check those out. left, is the chairperson of the egyptian initiative for personal rights. an important and independent egypt rights organization. the deputy director of

now egypt's secular forces have turned the tables. but does this mean more democracy for egypt, or a return to the past? our chief foreign affairs correspondent margaret warner reports from cairo. >> the chamber of the upper house of parliament, a committee rewriting egypt's constitution for the second time in as many years, con veebd at the initial session on sunday. it was an over-50 cloud of statesmen clerics, business leaders and generals and one figure, a young man wearing a t-shirt no one had heard of. he was mahmoud batter, a leader of the rebel movement that led a petition against mohammed morsi and his muslim brotherhood-led government, triggering nationwide protest on june 30. two days later on july 3, the army chief appeared on television to say egypt's armed forces had removed the first democratically elected leader in the country's history. one of the fellow co-founders, mack meuld al-faka has no apologies for returning to the mill tore to out oust the president he voted for, who came to believe he was serving the islamis

a deal between israel and egypt. we produced peace, that peace between the two countries is stuck. egypt has been a terrific it keeps its canals open.lf war. its skies clear. we supply our forces in afghanistan. thanks to our support that we've received from the egyptians. we need a steady policy, not with one government or another but policy of cooperation and a policy that permits egypt's stability and economic development. stability can flow from consensus government and therefore the priority for democracy is a good one. lou: i couldn't agree with you more and i just want to add to that two points. one is, that it is certainly not constructive to have a number of republican, so-called prominent republican senators, at large calling for the end of aid and the breach of, with this secular military government it's a peculiar at best and a president who does not articulate or explain his policies. i hope you would agree with that. and the inflection point was two years ago when the president sided with forces he did

these are the top stories beginning with egypts. thousands of egyptians on the friday after the muslim brotherhood was banned. >>> a car bomb explodes on the out skirts of damascus. >>> moving closing together, top diplomats from iran and the united states meet for first time since the iranian revolution. >>> and what are we doing to our planet? leading scientists say that they are more sure than ever that humans cause global warming. ♪ >>> but first, we start in egypt, and the protests which are taking place across the country again. the demonstrations have been organized by the anti-coup alliance. it's the first friday since the muslim brotherhood was banned so many protesters would have gathered first at mosques and are now on the streets. well, let's get more from this from our correspondent in cairo, whom we're not naming for security reasons. if you can identify anything different from these demonstrations than we have seen before. >> reporter: stephen what we're seeing this friday is very typical of the scenes you get acros

is a very dark day for the future of democracy in egypt do you think the harsh measures. implemented by the authorities will actually bring more support for as you say it's not just for the muslim brotherhood but others who have political sentiments political reasons their political views but it's the muslim brotherhood could have actually gained more supporters of as a result of this or is it really on its way out as a result of this crackdown. again we've got huge support for democracy in egypt the muslim brotherhood make a very small minority there about fifteen to twenty percent let's not forget that the people on the street now are egyptians from all backgrounds some of them are none parties and some of them don't even support anybody they're just there for a better or for themselves and for egypt and for for the future of the area of the whole region as well the muslim brotherhood are just used as a scapegoat for what the government the interim government is doing well that's the question that's what you're saying interim you said you said interim this is an interim

ambassador to egypt, india, zambia and the philippines. ambassador, good to see you here. >> thank you. lou: this is a, a frightful moment for the united states and for this administration. seems every initiative this president has taken in libya, in egypt, and towards syria, has been disasterous and in fact, not only not supporting the interests of the united states, but making bad situations woefully worse. what do you think? >> well, lou, i think we have to be a little bit fair about it because -- lou: i want to be utterly fair about it but i want to be straightforward bit as well. >> the middle east is going through a period of revolutionary transformation. since 2011 we have seen governments across the region fall. ethnicities turn on one another. religions turn on one another. there is only so much the outside world, any power c do. lou: tn why would that outside power, premier among them the united states, not recognize the reality that you have just spoken? >> well, i'd like to think we have recognized it but trying to find a set o

so what does the future hold for christians in egypt? >> i think that the question of the future is a super-serious question. in the last couple of years, there's been an upsurge from north africa or from egypt all the way over to malaysia of incidents involving anti- christian groups. and given the, if you will, the still chaotic situation in egypt, and certainly iraq, which seems to be falling apart, the worry has to be that the situation can clearly get worse. >> reporter: mona makram ebeid concedes some younger copts have left egypt, but she has no intention of buckling under the pressure. >> christians have been here since before islam, so they are solidly ingrained in the soil of egypt. we have a past, we have a history so we will fight for that. >> reporter: and for a future that egypt's coptic christians hope can be theirs, too. >> woodruff: you can see more of margaret's reporting from egypt on our world page. next week, she'll be reporting from new york at the united nations general assembly. and online, we report on how a copt

you see that in egypt where egypt is mostly sunni, 10% christian. and yet they are fearful of the muslim brotherhood. seea, they do not want to the fringe or the mainstream muslim brotherhood win in syria . conspiracy theory about a possible american invention in order to save the muslim brotherhood in syria. that is the sort of stuff we are talking about. israelifter the lebanese- a shiazbollah is organization. context of the competition in lebanon. yes, there is a divide. it doesn't always explain political position. host: the book is "the world through arab eyes." opinion.t arab public are americans seeing the true arab public opinion? we have notn egypt, had any public opinion polls of late in egypt. we have had an overwhelming media that is now controlled by is pitchingnt that one story, that the muslim motherhood is a bad guy. we do not know until we have public opinion polls. this book is based on 10 years of public opinion polling in .gypt, rocco, jordan, lebanon every year we had up to 4000 people interviewed representing the population, pr

and i think it's a mistake for anyone watching egypt and anyone who cares about the desires of egypt to become democratic to think that you can just take a part of the country that had 40% of parliament and tell them you no longer can have any part of it. i don't think it will work and i am not sure it's very smart. >> we have a question from social media. let's go to hermela for that. >> on twitter rowand says the muslim brotherhood has been banned in egypt almost the entire time since the 1952 revolution. what difference does this ban make? >> well, the big difference would be that they were banned for many decades as this viewer right ry pointrightly points oue there was a decision to push for democracy, to oppose mubarak and move towards elections which was the first free and fair elections in egypt's 5,000 years of history, that changed everything. because then they merged as a legal political party and showed that they do have a following. remember, they won 40% of the seats in parliament and that's significant. they also won the presidency. it's true this they were up against

hosni mubarak no longer in prison and egypt under military rule. has the revolution come full circle? what do you make of the situation on the ground. >> it's unfolding. revolutions take a long time. if you look at our own history it took a very long time from the boston massacre all the way to the point where we had a constituti constitution. there's a good length of time needed for this now and on the streets in egypt. a big challenge for egypt as it tries to move forward, so much has happened. i was back on the streets all summer. looking at the -- just the dramatic way in which the hope is gone, remember those great demonstrations in tahrir square or liberation square, millions of people came and brought down mubarak after 30 years of a police state. now, total violence, chaos and where it's going to go is really a big question. ening the reason americans need to care is that we need to decide what are we really for in the region. are we for stability or are we for democracy? we had a democracy there in egypt where they democratically elect add

now the problem of the press in egypt has been brought to the united nations here in geneva. >> egypt has moved up considerably in the ranks of the deadeadliest countries for journalist. it is now in the top five, when not even being in the top ten three years ago. >> reporter: in the human rights council meeting, journalists highlighted the need to keep channels free from censorship. >> so many are crying out for reliable information. for so many, including so many in egypt today, information is a critical lifeline. >> reporter: the united nations is well aware that challenges to freedom of speech is a worldwide problem. that egypt needs that upheld more than ever now. as one speaker said without media freedom there can be no political reform, no democracy. and what happens in egypt will set the example for the rest of the regauge. >> israel has drawn up jobs for palestinian workers in the west bank all aimed as supporting renewed peace talks. but the labor ministry said that the move does not go far enough to make employment opportunities easier. they've been meeting since u.s.-brok

can egypt be surprised about what has happened? i am a bit surprised they actually took this on the fellow christians. it goes into the pattern of thinking, this is an interesting of a meeting of a global organization that took part in istanbul this week. thinking, is if they have enough strife, and enough sectarian conflict, the world will pay attention. something like the libyan style -- enough pressure on something with american intervention, to pressurize the interim government. this is not a cohesive thinking in this has been exchanged these meetings. >> the best-known female architect in the world. th designed the aquatic center for the olympics, but her most celebrated buildings are outside of britain. another creation opened this weekend in london, a small and remarkable addition to a gunpowder store. i went to see her latest creation -- my colleague, jeremy paxman to see her latest creation earlier this week. >> there is no mistaking zaha hadid's buildings. they rarely seem like structures at all. >> the residue of my work

you spend a lot of time in egypt. are they going to go back to terrorism, could there even be a civil war? >> you know, the muslim brotherhood has claimed it has rejected violence. ore eegyptian slammic jihad, who reject democracy. whether you like them or not, clearly most egyptians didn't like them. >> didn't they resort to violence after the military deposed them? >> they were protesting the detention of what they felt was the democratically elected president. i feel very comfortable defending the muslim brotherhood. failed governance, i don't want to do that, but i do think it is important for the american public to understand how it is viewed. and that is that the muslim brotherhood is not going to go away any time soon. they are a powerful force, politically. they were democratically elected to 40% of parliament. they won the presidency, so the idea that you can push them under ground and they will go away i think whether you support their ideas or not, it is just impractical. you show how they play a big role.

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everybody upset at obama whether it is the military in egypt or the muslim brotherhood. and of course the syrian crisis, where obama has seemed to be agonizing out loud about what to do. he has seemed indecisive. it has been a very bad summer for him. now this. and this, of course, is a major stain on brazilian-american relations, which are very important. we may not be aware of that here in europe. brazil is a power cows -- powerhouse. it is very important for economic and political reasons that the relationship between these countries be as strong as possible. and in a more general sense, latin america is very upset about the snowden affair, the spying issue. the mexican president complained to obama personally that his e- mails have also been spied upon. latin america, which even in the best of times looks at washington with an sq i -- with an askew eye, is wondering what to do with this big brother. >> thanks for that. let's go now to morocco where there has been another attempted security breach as hundreds of refugees tried without success to break through a border

and his family fled the war in refugee camp in egypt. how security forces came to an area where he was living and arrested his father, who has not been seen or heard of since. this video has been produced, condemning the violence come and generally speaking, the discrimination against syrian refugees in egypt. some 300,000 syrian refugees in the country, and the united nations refugee agency has adjusted 110,000 of them. , sentimentgrowing against egypt. egyptians accused syrian refugees of taking the brotherhood side in the conflict against the army. former president mohamed morsi, it would seem that -- organizationm an have called upon cairo to put a stop to the harassment of syrian refugees in egypt. the document was signed by about 2000 web users so far. egypt since have been expressing frustration and boredom during the imposed nighttime curfew tag discoveries of the curfew. has been timing how long his kettle takes to boil. it is one way of calling without a hint of irony for an end to the curfew since the state of emergency was de

but not the society that egypt does. more likely this is going to play out in the civilian context and that's probably good if news. i think there's a risk that things will head south in tunisia. but i sound lie polyanna here. there is a chance that somehow tunisia will muddle through and could set the course back to a democratic process. >> the comparison where tunisia's ruling party says he's not afraid that would happen, he told the washington post, that the first few weeks after the coup in egypt the opposition groups here were leap and their hopes were raised. but then the egyptian scenario became a nightmare after the massacres. do you think hee is right, will the egyptian example be a deterrent? >> well, we can hope so. and i must say i agree with chris in the sense that tunisia is the best case scenario in the arab spring. tunisia has a solid middle class, it's got a small population, it's very educated and less poferred than -- poverty than much of the arab countries. the more revolutionary, less qualified, syri

morsi was trying to change egypt from being egyptian, from being islam. islam is a part of the egyptian composition, but it's one part. >> warner: even the brghthood's one-time ally supported morsi's removal. its media strategist says the brotherhood cut itself off from too many egyptians. >> we are not a family. we are part of this egyptian people, even we have our own ideas. >> warner: and you think the muslim brotherhood is a family in the sense to feeling exclusive? >> oh, yes. they excluded themselves from the egyptian people, and this is one of the fatal mistakes. >> still, he is actually the first and the only democratically elected president. >> warner: we posed that criticism, that the brotherhood tried to ram through an islamist agenda, to a leermd of the brotherhood's political arm, the freedom and justice parent. he admitted it made mistakes but sidestepped the deeper question. >> in any democratic country, you utilize the military to overthrow the government or use the democratic means to do that? >> warner: he said the party would try to kee

for more we turn ktrt, houston's egypt news leader. >> in egypt, a stork was busted as a suspected spy. a citizen thought the bird was an undercover agent because it carried a suspicious electronic device. >> stephen: "suspicious electronic device." could it have been the new iphone 5s? (laughter) and i say that simply because i want a free one. (laughter) now, don't believe this stork is a spy? some sources have reported that this agent was instead a swan! which means this stork has a secret identity, a nom de plumage. (laughter) and this is not the first time the animal kingdom has got caught up in middle eastern espionage. as i reported previously, egypt accused israeli agents of being behind a local shark attack and -- (laughter). saudi arabia arrested a vulture on suspicion of spying for israel. (laughter) and they also arrested a rabbit for being one letter away from a rabbi. (laughter) (cheers and applause) well, whether he turns out to be a spy or not, i certainly hope egyptian officials interrogate this stork until it reveals where babies really come from. (laughter) vaginas,

second in the general classification. >> today on the net. -- a stork egypt arrested in egypt on suspicion of spying. an online campaign to end violence against children in india. who do you think deserves to be buried in the pantheon? a stork behind bars. as strange as it may seem, the egyptian authorities detained a stork on friday, believing it contained a spying device. it was found by a fisherman in southern egypt. he thought the electronic device attached to its back looked suspicious. so, he decided to capture it and take it to a police station. but the veterinary committee called in to assist the government officials and environmental organizations involved in the inquiry determined the advice was neither obama nor a spying system. they discovered it was quite simply a wildlife tracker installed by hungarian researchers to follow the movements of these migrating birds. on stork has its own page the scientific website which features a satellite map showing the birds journeys as it migrates toward the southern part of the african continent this time of year. sorts of mockery on socia