anyway, chuck todd, we're going to hear from the president. do you think he's going to have something -- some signal? >> andrea, as you know, every day since the shutdown started you've seen the white house has tried to find a way for the president to speak in front of a tv camera. sometimes it's been informal like the walk for lunch that he and vice president biden took, sometimes an interview with ap, yesterday fema, today coming to the briefing room and taking a few questions. this is all part of the you have this sort of public gamesmanship, you saw boehner this morning. the same, trading rhetoric. i'm sure folks following this story, they already know exactly the scripted lines both sides are saying at this point where everybody is just going, just go, just do this, for god's sakes. who knows? >> chuck todd, chris cillizza, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, what will it take to get a spending bill passed? in less than an hour the president is set to give a statement from the briefing room. we'll bring that to you live. chuck todd w

chuck todd has more on the numbers. >> reporter: in our "wall street journal"al poll 65% believe the government shutdown is doing quite a bit of harm on the economy. politicly republicans are the losers by a 53-31 margin more groups claim republicans than the president. 70% believe they are putting their own political agenda ahead of what is good for the country. the political damage to the gop brand doesn't end there. 53% have a negative view in the survey. and that's giving democrats a boost. they lead the gop by eight points on the question of which party should control congress. >> that was chuck todd reporting. >>> while poll numbers continue to plummet they don't seem to be helping congress and the president broker a deal. the government shutdown is approaching the third week. there was cautious optimism by lawmakers after weeks of icy receptions relations are starting to fall. it looks like the two sides could be reaching an agreement. for 90 minutes last night the meeting was to help america from defaulting on the loans. the meeting didn't produce an immediate deal but did st

it is where we begin again tonight with nbc's chuck todd in the briefing room of the west wing. we are still expect ed to hear the president tonight. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. i guess the good news is they are still talking in there. it is the four congressional the leaders -- speaker john boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and meeting in there. the staff are not in there. theet meetings in the past haven't led to a lot of breakthroughs when you have bipartisan bicameral. the president spoke with john harwood today. what was interesting in the interview, brian, is he had a bit of a warning to wall street about how the government shutdown is related to the debt ceiling issue that will hit in three weeks. take a listen. >> wall street has been calm about this. is that the right way to look at it? >> no. this time is different. they should be concerned. when you have a situation in which a faction is willing potentially to default on u.s. government obligations, then we are in trouble. if they are willing to do it now, they will be willing to do it

chuck todd, chris cillizza, thank you both very much. as we have been reporting, the bodies of four fallen military service members who were killed on sunday in afghanistan were met by their grieving family members earlier today right here at dover air force base. they were killed by an improvised explosive device during a combat mission in kandahar province. sergeant patrick hawkins, u.s. army ranger from carlisle, pennsylvania. he was moving to the aid of a fellow wounded ranger when he was killed. patrick had just celebrated his 25th birthday. 24-year-old private first class cody james patterson was also an army ranger. he was the r the regiment's manneder said he had a limitless future he would have successful in whatever path he had chosen in life. he chose to serve his country by volunteering for the most difficult and challenging duties of a united states army ranger. first lieutenant jennifer moreno was a member of the cultural support team at the u.s. army special operations command. the 25-year-old was from san diego, californi

it's where we begin tonight with nbc's chuck todd. >> reporter: good evening. what was a glimmer of hope, a meeting that lasted more than an hour between the president and the four congressional leaders, it seemed maybe something would break. speaker boehner, though, after the meeting ended came out to the cameras right outside the west wing and appeared very frustrated. take a listen. >> the president reiterated, one more time, tonight, that he will not negotiate. we've got divided government. democrats control the white house and the senate. republicans control the house. we've sent four different proposals over to our democrat colleagues in the senate. they rejected all of them. we've asked them to conference, to sit down and try to resolve our dips. they don't want to -- they will not negotiate. >> reporter: well, the will mott negotiate is about the issue of health care, not opening up the government, not the debts ceiling. this is all about health care. that's what house republicans want to negotiate on. we heard from nancy pelosi and harry reid, they fol

>> chuck todd these numbers, man, you introduce everybody. jump right in. >> nbc news political director and host of the daily run down, chuck todd. held jobs chuck. >> good morning, mika. >> those are quite some numbers you have for us this morning. along with the center corner christie hefner and history professor at rice university douglas brinkley his new book "cronkite" is out in paper book. >> congratulations about the dodgers. dodgers, cardinals. it's as good as it gets. >> i am still scattered. dodgers and cardinals, jack clark and tom. to this day why tommy la sorta didn't walk jack clark. >> nbc/wall street journal poll showing this boomerang effect indicating how the strategy by some republicans, chuck todd, has backfired. number of americans who think obama care is a good idea has risen to 38%, up seven points from september. now half of all americans oppose eliminating all funding for the president's health care law? the fight for a smaller federal government is also losing steam. 52% say that government should be doing more to s

so we begin tonight with our political director chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. ever since snowden had been letting the world know that the u.s. has been spying on allies all over the world, the obama administration has been in diplomatic damage control mode. this revelation, the tapping of merkel's cell phone is causing the biggest riff yet with some of america's closest friends. the sight of slighted american allies, germany's angela merkel and france's francois hollande. together today fuming over new spying allegations including the tapping of merkel's cell phone. trust needs to be rebuilt, merkel said. that implies that trust has been severely shaken. earlier this week, the president called merkel to apologize. >> the president said we are not going to do this going forward. >> reporter: but it may have been done in the past? >> well, look, we don't want to get into the business of inventorying everything we have done on the intelligence side in the past. >> reporter: the latest nsa revelation has become

nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, has more on the nbc news/"wall street journal" numbers for us. >> reporter: in our "wall street journal"al poll 65% believe the government shutdown is doing quite a bit of harm on the economy. one in three says it has directly impacted their own lives. politicly republicans are the losers by a 53-31 margin more groups claim republicans than the president. 70% believe they are putting their own political agenda ahead of what is good for the country. just 51% say the same thing of president obama. the political damage to the gop brand doesn't end there. 53% have a negative view in the survey of the party. the worst rating for republicans in the poll's 25-year history. and that's giving democrats a boost. they lead the gop by eight points on the question of which party should control congress. their largest lead since 2009. >> nbc's chuck todd reporting for us. >> the shutdown is approaching the third week as we count it. there was cautious optimism by lawmakers after weeks of icy receptions relations are starting to fall. nbc's trac

we have two reports on this tonight beginning with our chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the government shutdown, it doesn't appear an end is in sight but the ominous deadline has to do with the debt ceiling. without action by congress it would mean the government couldn't borrow money to pay bills like social security or even interest on the debt. defense secretary chuck hagel ordered most of the civilian pentagon staff back to work today. the catch? no actual paycheck until the government is re-opened. when that happens, it's anybody's guess with neither side budging today. >> there is not a subject that i am not willing to engage in, work on, negotiate, and come up with common sense compromises on. we are not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged shutdown. >> now, the american people expect when their leaders have differences and we are in a time of crisis that we'll sit down and at least have a conversation. really, mr. president. it's time to have that conversation. >> reporter: but the government sh

chuck todd at the white house tonight. chuck, thanks. >>> we touched on this earlier. this current showdown and this current government shutdown traces its history back to a determined core of gop house members who are vehemently against obama care and were willing to shut down the government because of it. these members happen to be from very conservative districts where they won by big margins, and their jobs are secure more or less. and in both parties, there are congressional districts that are set up by the states to keep the parties in power. but some believe if the system stays this way, our politics will kind of stay this way. our report on all of it tonight from nbc's kevin tibbles. >> you're willing to bring this country to its knees! >> reporter: ever wonder how we got here? >> we did not elect a dictator. we elected a president. >> reporter: a good many fingers are pointing at this guy, founding father and massachusetts governor elbridge gerry drew this contorted district to ensure his party's victory in 1812. one political cartoonist likened it to a salama

todd was there for it. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. you know, nine days before the country runs out of its ability to borrow money, we don't appear to be closer to a deal, they must be part of it. the president is willing to talk about that but only after the government is re-opened. >> the only thing that i will say is that we're thought going to pay a ransom for america paying its bills. we're willing to pass at least a short-term budget that opens up the government at current fundi funding levels. >> reporter: hours later, speaker boehner dismissed that option. >> the president said today if there is unconditional surrender by republicans he will sit down and talk to us, that is not the way our government works. >> reporter: an exs a per rated john mccain has been there before, so he pleaded with colleagues to work something out. >> how is this going to end? we know how it is going to end. sooner or later the government will resume the functions, sooner or later we'll raise the

more from nbc's chuck todd in a minute. first lets talk about those deals in play. are they deal breakers. joining me from "the fix" kelly o'donnell and chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and host of tv's in play. you came from the briefing, questioned the speaker, lets listen. >> mr. speaker, can you guarantee to the american people congress will not go past the deadline and push us into default. >> i've made clear the idea is wrong and we shouldn't get close to it. >> it's very clear this speaker does not want to push the house, push congress, push the united states government over the edge. is he in control? we have a last minute plan from house republicans that says there's a deal breaker. >> almost a feeling of containment strategy with john boehner. dealing with his republican conference, what we're told the offer discussed this morning which basically takes when the senate bipartisan deal, it adds on to that something very important to the most volatile group within the republican conference, which are the most conservative tea party members who do want to see

our chief white house correspondent chuck todd can start us off with the latest. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. at this late hour, things are moving quickly in washington towards a potential deal to open the government and raise the debt ceiling so the country avoids default. right now it's the non-tea party republicans that are trying to come up with a dignified way out of the shutdown. the republicans are holding out hope they can at least force a larger negotiation with the white house on a long-term deficit reduction deal. now, it's triggered this renewed sense of urgency is public opinion. the poll last night indicates the shutdown has backfired on the gop. two results really unnerved two republicans we talked to today. that the majority blamed the republicans and not the president. and a larger number believe it's the republicans pushing their own political agenda at the expense of the country's greater good. it's going to be a long weekend here, but don't be surprised monday morning, perhaps tuesday that we have a deal and that gover

. >>> let's bring in our political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, let's talk accountability. a lot of folks in the business world say if this happened in a private company in the real world, it could be curtains for the company, curtains for the ceo. in this case, the ceo people are asking about pointing to would be health and human services. the cabinet secretary kathleen sebelius. >> reporter: everything i hear in the administration, her job is safe. nobody in the west wing feels this is an administrative error, that this is a competency issue. that at the end of the day, this was a problem if anything, of overpromising perhaps by the contractors that were used to build the website. the other thing i'm hearing is there's such an all hands on deck mentality, brian. they know they have only weeks to get this right, because it's these young people that use the web that they want to get on. and if the website is thought of as unusable, they'll never get the young and healthy people to sign up for health care which blows the entire system and wo

our political white house correspondent chuck todd is with us with that part of the story. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. you know, these tea party conservatives helped to propel the republicans to take control of the house in 2010. and these conservatives are the engine behind the current standoff right now. the tea party has the president's attention. >> one faction of one party in one house of congress in one branch of government shut down major parts of the government. all because they didn't like one law. >> reporter: the faction is a group of about 80 members of congress, who in august wrote a letter to speaker john boehner urging him to use the budget negotiations as a wedge to reverse the affordable care act. >> we thought it was important to stand on our principles that since 2010 elections, the republicans were very clear they don't like obama care but never had a chance to actually vote on it. >> reporter: they come from the most conservative districts in the country. on average, in 2012, they captured 65% of the vote in their districts, d

it is where we begin again tonight with nbc's chuck todd in the briefing room of the west wing where we are still expect ing the president will speak about tonight's meeting. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the meeting is over. we have heard from speaker boehner. he went to the microphones outside of the west wing here and said they had a polite conversation but he said the president reiterated he would not negotiate when it comes to the health care law for either the budget or when it comes to the debt court of appeaeiling. it's the same thing, in many ways, the president said to cnbc's john harwood in an interview i recainte interview earlier today. take a listen. >> am i uh exasperated? absolutely. this is entirely unnecessary. we have a situation right now where if john boehner, the speaker of the house, puts a bill on the floor to re open the government at current funding levels so that we can then negotiate on a real budget that allows us to stop governing from crisis to crisis, it would pass. >> reporter: brian, the bottom line is there is not a lot that

shutdown, not debt ceiling. >> chuck todd on the white house lawn for us tonight. powerful numbers from our poll. chuck, thanks. >>> to show you how closely this is being watched, based on news today the hint of movement on the budget, wall street went up as a result. dow jones up 323 points. nasdaq up almost 83. s&p up 36. >>> as for the shutdown and the outrage over the disruption of death benefits to the family members of u.s. service members killed in duty, the house voted to resume paying those benefits to the families of 29 americans killed since this shutdown began. a charity has stepped in for now, and if president obama signs the bill, the government will be able to make the payments again. but beyond that, these are tense days for a whole lot of former military families. nbc's andrea mitchell has more on that tonight from our d.c. newsroom. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. that's because that fix does not end the potential nightmare for millions of veterans who rely on monthly military pensions. because the veterans administration is runnin

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chuck todd, thank you. >>> one of those issues we just heard about was in the news today. specifically ending affirmative action. today, the u.s. supreme court agreed to answer the question can voters in any given state vote to ban the practice? our justice correspondent pete williams with us tonight from outside the court. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. the supreme court has ruled before that colleges can choose to use affirmative action. now it seems prepared to rule that voters in a state have the power to ban it. demonstrators outside the court urged it to uphold a ruling that struck down a constitutional amendment passed by michigan voters in 2006 ending affirmative action in the state. justice sotomayer says it sponsors said it would bring back segregation. she says it appears to have done just that. but chief justice roberts says why can't you say to the colleges do everything you can without having racial prejudices? the court seems headed for a ruling that would allow affirmative action bans in michigan and several other states to stand. >>

their largest lead since 2009. >> and that was nbc's chuck todd reporting. while poll numbers continue to plummet, they don't seem to be helping congress and the president broker a deal. the government shutdown is approaching its third week, but there was caution opt limb from house republicans after a meeting at the white house last night. after weeks of icy receptions, relations are starting to fall. and it looks like the two sides could be inching closer to an agreement. tracie potts is joining us live from washington. good morning, happy friday. can it be possible that we might see a deal before the weekend? >> reporter: it's possible, betty. they sat down and talked as they said they wanted to do. and now it looks like there may be at least be some movement here toward some sort of deal that would, number one, end the government shutdown and get people back to work. and also present this historic default that the government says could happen as early as next thursday. here's where we are, after an hour and a half meeting at the white house, president ob

. >> jay carney gets one from none other than chuck todd. watch. >> five days before the launch the president said it's a website where you can compare and purchase prices. who misled the president on this? are you telling me five days before that somebody let the president go out to the american public to give this speech and say this and make this promise? i promise you this is a lot easier. it's like booking a hotel or a plane ticket. who let hymn down? >> the president is frustrated. he made that clear in his remarks today. >> good answer, muff? enough? >> i have used it it before too. that's what i meant by the tsunami of negativity. the facts are what they are. so you have reporters like chuck todd looking at the facts. what other kind of question are they going to ask? that's a fair question to ask. who is telling the president that e everything is rosy? that's certainly how the speech was yesterday. >> he wasn't going out and making this you have knowing it was bad. so somebody had to tell him it was good. >> well, maybe. >> chuck to

it's good to see chuck todd realizing that. >> was there any basis, as chuck points out, that they were hoping the insurance companies would stay on board? was there any basis for that? did they even think about, by the way, if it's not profitable to keep this insurance company but we do it because we're an insurance company, and i have the opportunity to cancel that one? >> why didn't they think of that before. >> because nobody in the administration has ever run a business. >> right. >> they go from the faculty lounge to the public sector. no one has ever managed anything. they don't understand making a profit and clearly look at our national debt, so the insurance companies are looking at this right now. many of these insurance companies didn't even want to participate in obama care. they are getting an influx of sick people into the system. it's going to cost them so much money, and they have until i guess thursday, eric, to decide if they don't want to be part of it. also, if cms breeches a lot of these, a lot more insurance companies will say we're out of here and that's how they

chuck todd at the white house. let's go to the other end of town. kelly o'donnell with a late development on capitol hill. all eyes have been on the moderate republicans, some of whom think it's a suicide mission to go after a 3-year-old settled health care law. >> reporter: absolutely, brian. one moderate republican said i'm disgusted. in fact, the house is now voting on the tea party-backed bill that would keep the government open but would make those changes to the health care law. i'm told the senate will then quickly come back and kill that. that leaves us at square one. i'm also told speaker boehner is saying it will work out tonight. an interesting clue about what may unfold over the next few hours. brian? >> either way, it's going to be a long night. kelly o'donnell on the hill for us. thanks. let's take this story out of washington where the talking is going on, where what we just saw is already hitting home across america, after all, and could get a lot worse for a lot of families if there is a shutdown overnight. nbc's kevin tibbles with

chuck todd reports. >> reporter: a new nbc news/"esquire" survey finds we all could use a pair of 3d glasses because there's a growing political center that doesn't fit into the forced political stereotypes of the past. in fact, a majority, 51% of the country actually falls in the middle lane of american politics. the hard left lane is just 21%. and the hard right lane is only slightly bigger at 28%. the center is as diverse as the country and basically fall into four countries. the minivan moderates are in the suburbs. the pickup populists largely live in rural america. the mba centric middle live on the coast, while the most cynical dubbed the whatever man centrists are largely under 40. culturally, this is a live and let live group. for instance, 52% are okay with legalizing marijuana, but 79% believe government is spending too much money. >> that was nbc's chuck todd reporting. so just where do you fall on the political spectrum? find out by taking our interactive quiz on nbcnews.com, just click the icon that says quiz where do you stand. >>> and now for your first look at busine

chuck todd from the white house, thanks. >>> we want to show you something here. the following piece of video displays the anger and arguably the hypocrisy of the current situation in washington. this shows congressman randy neugebauer of texas, one of the republicans who favors the shutdown if the president doesn't cut back his health care law. he's confronting a u.s. park ranger at the world war ii memorial as if the shutdown is somehow the fault of the ranger. as you will see it was all too much for another bystander to take. >> i'm sorry. i work for the park service as someone who works at this site. i'm sorry -- >> people have traveled with their family. how do you look at them and deny them access? i don't get that. >> it's difficult. >> it should be difficult. >> it is difficult. i'm sorry, sir. >> park service should be ashamed of themselves. >> i'm not ashamed. >> you should be. >> this woman is doing her job just like me. i'm a 30-year federal veteran. i'm out of work. >> the reason you are is mr. reid -- >> no. it's because the government won't do its j

todd, on capitol hill, as we mentioned. and the whole world is watching, many wonder what is going on. one headline called it "america's power failure." here is how great britain opened their channel 4 news cast tonight. >> america's government closed for business, will the economy follow? >> washington is an angry, bitter, and divided tone tonight, john. everybody here is blaming somebody else for causing the first government shutdown in nearly 20 years. >> all day it has been like this, a top story around the world, a reminder of how people watch the goings on in the world's largest super power. here are some of the reactions today. >> just crazy, really crazy and just quite childish. >> today, they went over the cliff. and to my mind, very irresponsible. >> quite painful. >> it is not the remainder -- >> some of the opinions and observations being expressed around our planet today. >>> now, to the other event that took place at midnight eastern time last night. the start of a major provision of the new health care law, w

>> chuck todd is not a liberal commentator. melissa: well -- >> liberal commentators are piling on debacle of obamacare. it wasn't just chuck todd. it was major garrett. the white house has been not giving answers. you talked earlier in the segment about the problem with this website. "washington post" posted a front page story, this site crashed in a test, test drive so to speak a few days before the rollout. melissa: yes. now the mainstream media is piling on. what does it mean for the story going forward? what does it mean about how they spin it an try to turn it around? because generally they can count on a nicer treatment, from at love these outlets that have turned on them. for example, a "new york times" op-ed, obamacare failing ahead of schedule. everyone turned on them in this project. what does it mean? >> in terms of liberal pundits there is great sense of disappointment, maybe even bitterness. they like obamacare. they wanted it to work. they recognize what nobody can deny at this point this has been debacle. i don'

chuck todd, obvious frustration. and, you know, identify always sort of laughed at the main stream media because when republicans do the same thing that democrats do for some reason it's always called a civil war. i'm not prepared to call this a republican civil war but when you have the divide that you have in your poll, when you have the majority of republican senators feeling way they do about this strategy, when you have a house member comparing john mccain, saying john mccain supported al qaeda, the vision, the fault lines are running pretty darn deep right now. >> they are. look, i think mcconnell and boehner, history will show that they were desperately trying to prevent a civil war inside the party. that that's, you know, they have made decisions that i think have frustrated the white house, frustrated harry reid, frustrated some democrats. but when you look at what they were looking at in the moment and a lot of times essentially just trying to survive the week, just trying to survive the month, just trying

chuck todd and chris cillizza standing by watching with me. there is not only no bargaining going on, he was calling out the speaker, chuck. they seem to be toughening their position. >> toughening the position but toning down rhetoric. a couple of things the president went out of his way to emphasize. number one, the democrats have already compromised. they have made it a lot but not a forward case, already a republican budget reflecting republican priorities when it comes to spending levels, sequestration, et cetera. then the idea he's not willing to negotiate, he says i'm perfectly willing to negotiate after the threat -- the shutdown threat and debt ceiling issue is there. trying to sort of shift the rhetoric so it isn't all about, which republicans are trying to frame it, hey, the president won't negotiate, the president trying to push back on that talking point. i'm more than willing to negotiate just not under these preconditions that republicans want. i think it's notable you see a different tone and a little bit different emphasis on

joining me now is chuck todd nbc's white house correspondent, political director and host of "the daily rundown." "new york times" white house correspondent mark landler who had a fascinating interview with national security adviser susan rice. that was in the sunday times. mark, first to you. this white house denial that the president even knew about the snowden leaks regarding angela merkel. is the denial he saw the product in the presidential daily brief in what they were learning from germany but didn't know the source. how could they have such a source, angela merkel and not have it in the president's pdb. >> well, andrea, the brief the president gets every day has sort of a binder that's attached to it that has a lot of other supporting documents. i think one of the questions here is, is it possible that the actual intercepted data and background material was in that supporting document, which the president wouldn't receive in his daily brief but would be available to his top advisers, national security adviser, chief of staff, and others that take part in the briefing. so one of

i'm luke russert for the great chuck todd. now that the government sputtered back to life, leaders are plunging into the next count of budget talks. can he use capital to bridge the partisan divide and win a broader agreement and will he? president obama challenged republicans to work with him on a long-term spending bill. >> nothing has done more damage to america's credibility in the world, our standing with other countries than the spectacle that we have seen these past several weeks. you don't like a particular policy or a particular president? then argue for your position. go out there and win an election. >> the vice president happeneding out muffins to returning federal workers was optimistic and rather than committing to make the hard choices needed for compromise, budget negotiators are repeating a phrase like a broken record. >> we want to look for ways to find common ground. >> we believe we can find common ground. >> woo ke do the job we were sent here to do to find common ground between the two budget resolutions

let's pick up where we lift off there with chuck todd. how optimistic should we be that anything comes out of this 5:30 meeting. the message is pretty simple, republicans have to first decide to open the government before we can have negotiations. it's pretty simple. if john boehner put a clean continuing resolution with no political riders attached to it on the floor of the house today, pretty clear it would pass, mainly with democrats but with a handful of republicans like peter king at the top of the hour who don't agree with this strate strategy. we can't allow it to continue to happen, where we have political guns put to our head to keep the government up and running. i have a lot of things i want to that the american public support. for instance, i think we should have background checks on gun purchases but i'm not threatening to shut the government down until i get what i want. if we allow this to essentially become the way of business in washington by allowing republicans to get away with it right now, then essentially we're going