but the people of libya are worse off. i know people who care about that fact are people who really care about humanity, which is, of course, not by any means everybody who clamors for humanitarian wars. so the u.s. media is lying now primarily by avoiding the subject and we are not hearing much about the hell that libya has become in the violence that has overflowed its borders and the fact that the ordinary person in libya tends to be less secure, less well off now than before. as with iraq. we aren't told about these preventable and consistent results of these military adventures. >> the phrase leading from behind was coined in response to president obama's stance in libya. so what does that mean? and is this kind of president obama's foreign-policy model for the region in general? >> we now have u.s. troops supposedly completely gone from libya. the cia, of course, was there before thethe talk of no troopse ground excluded mention of them and the use of diplomats in benghazi as human shields in now there is talk about

the other is in libya. in libya, the person there, the suspect there is believed to be responsible for the 1998 bombings on u.s. embassies. so, again, these are two operations played out. that is that suspect al-libi. evan, with the two operations playing out, you are in washington, you are the justice correspondent there. what is the reaction likely to be from washington and how soon might we hear from someone in washington? >> caller: well, it's been a very tense day with different officials. they wanted to make sure the operations got off without and have the u.s. forces safely out of harms way before they could discuss any of this. as i mentioned to you, we knew about them and we were holding back on some of this. barbara starr was reporting as was i today and finally we were able to, once we knew there was nobody else in harm's way we could go on air and say this. this is, al-libi is a big one. he has a $5 million bounty on his head. the u.s. has been wanting to have him, to bring him to justice here i

that he is in libya. is he plotting something? it means there is a conspiracy around them. it could be. there is no proof that he is. it is hearsay. i think it is being politicized for the local benefits and local politics. that they are plotting against the state, i just don't see it. they are working on libya and i understand he is active in syria. >> another sign of tripoli's authority issues. running what was called the petroleum defense guards. closures have since followed all swear and the production has gone way down the last couple of months. >> the situation is cut in half after the revolution in libya. meaning 1.5 million barrels a day. just a few weeks ago, it went down to 100 million. you have the western power of libya. the east is completely blocked. the groups in the east are very different groups for other militias, a totally different issue really. they wanted a taut amis for the eastern region. it is an interesting weapon for political negotiation. >> the issue of who controls that oil s

the national transitional council declared libya. liberated that liberation came with a price plus two years of been a chaotic ride for the nation filled with violent clashes assassinations parliamentarian dysfunction and most recently the brief kidnapping of the prime minister of the united states which along with nato is instrumental in enforcing a no fly zone and bombing campaign that led to the ouster of gadhafi. has paid a heavy price as well in september of last year terrorist attack the u.s. consulate in benghazi killing ambassador chris stevens and three other americans so two years into its democratic experiment there are serious questions about libya's future amnesty international released a report this week about the plight of tens of thousands of libyans who have been displaced and victimized by roaming militias seeking retribution for gadhafi era crimes the libyan government which is dealing with fresh accusations of corruption has failed to rein in these militias across the country which are comprised of more than two h

we do agree that libya has to build up the hostilities and institutions in libya. but it doesn't mean we are not capable to handle such an issue. what happened is something really frustrating. the people, the government, and the congress -- this operation -- >> how should the u.s. have gone about it? >> nowadays, we are building up our institutions. we believe that the u.s. and almost the whole work, we are trying to build a relation with them. we should agree about whatever. being accused for anything. we do appreciate that. this is an agreement between our country, our government, our congress. >> let me get william jordan's reaction. >> perhaps it was and it is not saying. >> as i said, the security update that level or those standards, we are looking for. but we have capabilities to deal with any case. to hire people to have such operations, this is something not right and not clear. >> referring to the fact that the reports say it was men with libyan accents that carried out the attack. >> we don't know what happened and a bit more information may come out. se

i think the implications of a complete collapse in libya are global in each libya imagine this libya is not going to stand this is a country with two thousand miles on the me today and this is a country with enormous trees at the fifth world history and it's got the fifth level of reserves in the world of oil and gas you have militias that want to go everywhere it is the country that triggered instability in the countries you have egypt that is suffering from arms smuggling from libya and gangsters tunisia is going through they say it's so it is an international year old higher region and thank you for joining us well and columnist and middle east analyst thank you so much thank you thank you i think. unfortunately that's all the time we have guys but please join us again tomorrow check us out on bond facebook and twitter and you can follow me at men well under school have a great night folks. this is the media leave us so we. are the same motions to the other party there's a goal. that no one is asking with to get that you deserve answers from. politics . one of the new poll shows c

i think the implications of a complete collapse in libya are global in nature libya imagine this libya is not somalia or afghanistan this is a country with two thousand miles on the material this is a country with enormous trees at the fifth. the fifth level of reserves in the world of oil and gas you have militias running everywhere it is the country that triggered instability in the countries you have egypt that is suffering from arms smuggling from libya and gangsters tunisia is going to basically it's so it is an international year old higher region and thank you for joining us. on this and middle east analyst thank you so much thank you thank you i think. unfortunately that's a. the time we have guys but please join us again tomorrow check us out on bond facebook and twitter and you can follow me at man well under school raffle of have a great night folks. if. you don't know if you don't hurry chorused response to ruse. knows everyone in my life that i cared about their goal much and then. i came askin well. i was a national champion in track and field and also was able to go in q

security council decide to do it as it decided to do it in libya so libya was a case where all the countries the fifty member of the security council decided to justice because libya was not member but to give the can together by working both justice but i think it is also one of the main reasons why all those manned all those members of the u.n. security council that supported the i.c.c. referral back down no longer want to back a day i think there lot are a. lot of questions about the execution of the i.c.c. mandate in libya but before we go there can i ask you one question that is only conventionally related to syria and it is about a ugandan rebel leader joseph kwame i know that during your term as chief prosecutor you were very passionate about the need to bring him to justice and if you compare the lord's resistance army that operated in uganda and later in congo and the militarized opposition i think there are a lot of similarities now both fought against the oppression of the government both wanted to create a theocracy instead of a secular government both use child soldiers both wer

i think the implications of what complete collapse in libya are global in nature libya imagine this libya is not somalia or afghanistan this is a country with two thousand miles on them it today this is a country with enormous trees at the fifth world history and it's got the fifth level of reserves in the world of oil and gas you have militias running to everywhere it is the country that triggered instability in the countries you have egypt that is suffering from arms smuggling from libya and gangsters tunisia is going through this but it's so it is an international year old higher region and thank you for joining us. all in this and middle east analyst thank you so much thank you thank you i think. unfortunately that's all the time we have guys but please join us again tomorrow check us out on bond facebook and twitter and you can follow me man well underscore ruffle of have a great night folks. if you don't know if you don't panic or. response to. every woman in my life that i cared about their government and then. i came to skin well. i was national champion in track and field and als

playbook in syria that we saw in libya you know our prior to station in libya was military wasn't state building wasn't capacity building wasn't economic development we threw a lot of money at them a lot of arms which is now trickled down into nice year in mali thirty seven billion unfrozen at the state department another one hundred fifty billion globally dumped into the fractious rebel groups so unsurprisingly they're very divided still and we're seeing that play out without saeed who is the rebel leader who kidnapped the prime minister earlier this month so the lives aren't better but that's because we didn't prioritize and we're not prioritizing that in syria as well rich how do you. not because we didn't have a plan b after a quote unquote victory against gadhafi is that why because it wasn't thought about not thought about the consequences of our actions wasn't it there's a go ahead. but i don't know i think they probably did think about what they wanted to have happen clearly but but i mean one of the issues i think we're facing is is that america thinks that if we can just if we

in libya. to cross-talk events in libya i'm joined by my guest in washington rich galen he is a republican strategist and we also have michael shank he is the director of foreign policy at the friends committee on national legislation and a professor at george mason university and gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want to i very much encourage you to michael if i go to you and in washington two years on are the libyan people living better than before the intervention that overthrew. and we're seeing the same playbook u.s. playbook in syria that we saw in libya you know our prior to zation in libya was military wasn't state building wasn't capacity building wasn't economic development we threw a lot of money at them a lot of arms which is now trickled down into the share in mali thirty seven billion unfrozen at the state department another one hundred fifty billion globally dumped into the fractious rebel groups so unsurprisingly they're very divided sti

i think the implications of a complete collapse in libya are global in nature libya imagine this libya is not somalia or afghanistan this is a country with two thousand miles on them. this is a country with enormous trees at the fifth. fifth level of reserves in the world of oil and gas you have militias that are everywhere it is the country that triggered instability in the countries you have egypt that is suffering from arms smuggling from libya and tunisia is going through basically it's so it is an international year of higher region and thank you for joining us. on this and middle east analyst thank you so much they take your time thank you i think. unfortunately that's all the time we have guys but please join us again tomorrow check us out on facebook and twitter and you can follow me man well underscore ruffler have a great night folks. i save money to hire a hitman to shoot me dead for the next building through the open window. i search through the internet typing things like i'm looking for you i'm waiting for you i wrote and waiting for you i'm looking for you i didn't care

but the government in libya is very weak. the armed groups are strong and there are a number of armed groups and some people call them revolutionary and these are rebels that fight against the leregime. some call them m ma militias bee they won't set down their arms. many will say this is under notch alnominal authority. i the army does not have a presence in many areas. in fact they are coming unfortunate attack. under attack. very strong statements from the libyan government but it's not clear what they can do. or whether or not they will reign in these armed groups. what do we know about this particular group, the revolutionary operations chamber as they call themselves? how do they fit in with the libyan army? are they one of these groups that you know, could take advantage of a vacuum dre creaty a real lack of authority in libya? >> well they have. they do operate like i said, they operate under the umbrella of the defense and interior ministry. they are stronger than the state. they are stronger than the army. some will

special forces operations in libya and somalia? >> well, the one in somalia was taylor made for the s.e.a.l.s. doesn't surprise me at all they would go in there. if you look at this town, it's about 100 miles south of mogadishu. it's right on the coast. it allows the navy access to the ocean. it works very well. in tripoli, it's a different situation. you're operating inside the capital city. that would have probably required the support and technology of the libyan government. although it's weak, you still need to be able to operate in the city safely, so these look like maybe not exactly coordinated operations, but they were going after high valued targets. one could have gone without the other, but the fact they did them both i think is a real signal that the united states, no matter how long it takes, will go after these targets. >> colonel, you heard our foreign affairs correspondent say this. elise, you heard our senior national correspondent, nic robertson say it as well. the concern now would be about possible violent react

it is very similar to libya. are seeing with libya is hoping the leadership can emerge from that. they fragile state is still one step above. yes, for example, there has been interference with the oil supply, which was essentially because the people who were guarding the oil facilities were not being paid. their ownthe law into hands, which was a suicidal thing to do for the country. not for them individually. been partlyblem has solved. a similar thing happened with the water. that has been solved. there are moves in the right direction. wereilitias which controlling, for example, the airport and the frontier posts a year ago are no longer doing so. it is now being done centrally. very effectively, but centrally. but you have to keep these in perspective. one of the things the report mentioned was now in the eastern libya there was an assassination attempt almost every day. , a thousand people were murdered last month and 1000 people the month before that. algeria, syria, iraq, this is the context of what we need to see what is happening in libya. it is a tragic situation, but i

situation feeds into the situation in libya and this tragic. development obviously against the russian diplomatic building because we'll be reporting about really incidents of violence a lot of deaths recently in libya just how difficult now is the security situation for the country and the people there. there is no security here unfortunately last month or so libya has seen around forty seven young women kidnapped and so there is no security whatsoever this is going to play out but the hope is once that death squads have exhausted themselves and and the people which is the case the libyan people are increasingly perhaps whispering at the moment but the whispers are growing louder that things one actually saw god under the mama gadhafi government so some thought perhaps in the future they'll be a new libyan movement that can cleanse this whole mess of a situation and rebuild libya like which that was rebuilt and the poorest country in the world to the country with the highest h.d.i. of living standards index and all of africa that is at least t

government attempt to breach russia's embassy in libya the foreign ministry says no one was hurt and the situation is now under control. the u.s. government shutdown begins with hundreds of millions of dollars trickling away each day of the stalemate in washington as lawmakers showed no sign of finding a quick resolution. and russian investigators charge fourteen greenpeace protesters with piracy after they attempt to board an oil platform as part of an anti drilling campaign in the article top stories. live from our studio center here in moscow where it's just turned eleven pm this is . so first to our breaking news. to militants have attempted to break into the russian embassy in the libyan capital moscow says the situation is now under control and. joins me live in the studio with the details so what do we know has happened what is the latest well at this point we know and that's been confirmed by the foreign ministry that. identified people has attempted to breach the premises of the embassy of russia in tripoli they did launch an attack firing guns and even rocket launchers they

and we are getting more details of a l- libby inside of libya. first reports came to the ground from reporters and additional sources in libya that it might be one of america's most wanted was wanted and we understand from his family he was nabbed as he came back from morning prayers and the family described it to the associated press, his windo was mashed and he was grabbed from outside of his car just returning from the morning prayers and quickly taken away. we confirmed from u.s. official it was a u.s. special operation's force time that captured a l- libby who eluded capture since 1998. harris in >> you explained the hostage rescue team. i mis spoke. the hrt team will do the first interrogation of the suspect as well? >> they will be, their principle role will be to read the rights to the suspect. and what is interesting, this will raise all sorts of issues in terms of where to take a l- libby and in if you are talking 12 years ago, he would have made his way to guantanamo bay, that is not where he will be heading and he will be tried in the

let's start with libya. the successful one. >> reporter: >> we are now able to tell our viewers that al libi, the man captured in libya, has been taken to a u.s. navy warship for interrogation. no one is saying which ship, where exactly it is located but my justice colleague has confirmed that the government high value detainee interrogation group, a group of fbi, cia and other intelligence experts, they have been activated and they will be interviewing al libi for any intelligence he has on al qaeda operations. so he is on a u.s. navy warship undergoing interrogation and believed eventually to be headed toward new york for federal prosecution. no word when that may happen. on the other matter, the other raid in somalia. a u.s. official now confirms to me who the target was in somalia. it was a man named ikrema. said to be a kenyan of somali origin. a big fish, if you will, in the al shabab network in somalia. why did the u.s. want him so bad? why risk the s.e.a.l.s going in there? he has significant ties to

that's the difference here it's not waving a flag or plenty of tomahawk missiles as was the case in libya and what obama wanted to do with syria same playbook again listen nobody on the continent liked hot off the certainly up until two thousand and eleven and certainly with assad no friends there maybe a few holdouts so i might counter rich's point because. people on the ground didn't enjoy life under gadhafi let's be clear about that but in terms of what we're prioritizing whether it goes all the way back a couple hundred years to rich's point you know thomas jefferson ordered naval troops into tripoli so there's a there's a long history of invasion and intervention that was naval base the republican war in you know the northern part of africa so a couple hundred i'm going to limit my going to say when china would but i don't there isn't but there is an education there michael michael there's an addition that did not want american national interest at stake either gender is something i like and i don't know but when when when jefferson did that there was an american national issue at st

libya and somalia especially have become growing havens and a growing movement. the government clashes almost daily with this cells. what does this mean for our security here at home? joining us is former united states ambassador to the united nations, john bolton, who is also a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good morning. >> good morning. >> with these raids, is it fair to say africa has in a sense become the new afghanistan, the home of islamist terrorism? >> i think it's certainly an area where al qaeda and its afiltiates have been growing. in somalia, anarchy for 25 years, and this is a real menace. that's why this raid today in retaliation for the al shabaab seizure of the shopping mall in nigeria is so important. we may not have gotten the person we wanted, but it took place just shortly after a week after the attack in nairobi. i think it is a signal that when we've got a determination to act, we can still act quickly. with respect to the capture of al libi in tripoli, there's some real significance here to getting somebody we've been

playbook in syria that we saw on libya you know our prior to station in libya was military wasn't state building wasn't capacity building wasn't economic development we threw a lot of money at them a lot of arms which is now trickled down to tunisia year in mali thirty seven billion unfrozen at the state department another one hundred fifty billion globally .

libya's prime minist >>> raid retaliation. libya's prime minister is kidnapped at gunpoint, apparent payback for last weekend's u.s.-led operation that nabbed a top al qaeda suspect. >>> signs of compromise. as the government shutdown enters its tenth day, house republicans may be open to a deal to raise the nation's debt limit and avoid a default. >>> and they've held onto hope for years. now new york city police believe they've cracked a case that's been cold for more than two decades. >> she became part of our family. nobody else claimed her and we referred to her as our baby. captioning funded by cbs >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for this thursday, october 10th, 2013. >>> good morning. good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. the prime minister of libya was kidnapped this morning by a group of libyan rebels. the libyan government says prime minister ali zaidan was kidnapped from the tripoli hotel where he lives. the kidnapping appears to be tied to a u.s. raid in libya over the weekend. mark phillips is following th

some 3,000 miles from libya. we're learning now it happened on friday, and we are just learning about it now, a navy s.e.a.l. team zoomed in by speedboat on their mark. a seaside villa. top militant commanders from al shabab stay at that villa. a fierce gunfire broke out. the terror group claimed responsibility for last month's shocking attack at the shopping mall in kenya. this is new video showing the armed militants inside the mall. a u.s. official says no navy s.e.a.l.s were injured in friday's raid. >>> a member of al shabab may be dead and a big player in al qaeda is under lock and key. i want you to listen to what secretary of state john kerry said a short time ago. >> we hope that this makes clear that the united states of america will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror and those members of al qaeda and other terrorists organizations literally run and hide. >> want to bring in our cnn national security correspondent. two big raids happening. tell us more about ab

is libya a failing state? >> translator: libya is not a failing state. the state of libya doesn't exist yet. we are trying to create a state and we are not ashamed of that. >> outside world believes that libya's failing but libya was destroyed by gadhafi for 42 years and destroyed by a full year of civil war. and that's why we're trying to rebuild it. >> so there you had it from the prime minister's own mouth. this is not even a state yet. and we see it play out. this is the highest profile of these kidnappings but it's been going on for a long time and people are saying this happens, you know, to high connected people in libya as well. it's just happened to the prime minister. he went on national television, really to try to calm international backers and say that this is not about targeting, you know, the uk or the u.s. or others, this is a domestic libyan political drama fight. but it really does point to how this had to be sorted out and of course the libyans continue to seek support from outside. we've had the secretary of state, john kerry, british

we have breaking news out of libya. after being held against his will for several hours the country's prime minister was set free a short time ago. he was snatched at gun point in his resident. we will have complete reaction to this still developing story in just a few minutes but first we want to begin in washington, it is day 10 of the government shut down, and there may be a glimmer of hope on the horizon. in just a few hours president obama will host a group of house republican leaders. there are reports the g.o.p. is preparing a proposal to raise the debt ceiling while keeping the government shut down. it is expected to be a topic of conversation at the white house this morning and that's where randall pinkston joins us. has there any reaction on the situation in libya. >> so far no. however we have been hearing from secretary of state john kerry's spokes men, kerry travelin traveln the far east, his spokesman is saying that the u.s. is looking into the reports of the kidnapping and subsequent release of the libyan

zeidan says: "we reaffirm that any libyan citizen should be tried in libya because libya does not extradite its sons." (voice of translator) the administration reacting to the latest developments. harf says: "we consult regularly with the government of lya on a range of security and counter terrorism issues, certainly continuing to do so, we value our relationship and strategic partnership with the government and people of libya." the u-s ambassador to the country also being summoned to discuss the capture with libyan officials. hank weinbloom, f news. north korea... putting... the u-s on alert../ . warning... its armed forces... are prepared... to attack. the threat... was triggered... by the presence... of... u-s ships... in south korea.../. the... navy ships... including.... the... u-s-s george washington... aircraft carrier... are... there... for a routine... port call..../ meantime,... a... new... nuclear that... also causing tension today..../ south korean... lawmakers... say... their country's... spy agency... has discovered... the north... has... re-started... a... plutonium reactor

playbook in syria that we saw in libya you know our prior to station in libya was military wasn't state building wasn't capacity building wasn't economic development we threw up a lot of money at them a lot of arms which is now a trickle down it's a nice year in mali thirty seven billion unfrozen at the state department another one hundred fifty billion globally dumped into the fractious rebel groups so unsurprisingly they're very divided still and we're seeing that play out without saeed who is the rebel leader who kidnapped the prime minister earlier this month so the lives aren't better but that's because we didn't prioritize and were not parties in that in syria as well rich how do you. on that because we didn't have a plan b. after a quote unquote victory against gadhafi is that why because it wasn't thought about not thought about the consequences of our actions wasn't it there's a go ahead. i don't know i think they probably did think about what they wanted to have happen clearly but but i mean one of the issues i think we're facing is is that america thinks that if we can just i

>>> libya's prime minister detained by gunmen. we are live with the latest developments there. >> shaky situation there and get to that in a minute. >>> a lot going on this morning despite the fact it is wicked earliship i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it is 4:01 in the east. >>> take a look at the capitol this morning. the dysfunction beneath that dome that gave us the shutdown we are now under and not able to pay our bills. this morning, there are small, tiny signs of progress, maybe, that might at least keep the country from defaulting on its debt. 18 top republicans are said to visit the white house today to meet with the president. that as multiple republican house members and sources close to house leaders tell cnn they are working on a proposal to raise the debt ceiling temporarily, perhaps four to six weeks. that could open the door to negotiations on a longer term solution. however, it is not all happy music and unicorns yet. it just deals with the debt part. this will be unwelcomed news to hundreds of thousands

libya and as well as the southern section of libya. syria but how is it actually possible because you say this is going trees prime minister was taken away by armed gunmen and nobody knows a way hazel what exactly happened. mao zedong mouth said it i think succinctly in one sentence. power is found at the end of the barrel of a gun and that's how international relations offer rates there's no such thing as the rule of law there's no such thing as an actual law that the united states and really right now there is there is one person president barack obama and what he says is what happens the once we look at rack and ruin libya is a country in ruin not only the infrastructure the death of an estimated fifteen thousand people due to us invasion two years ago but the civic structure is destroyed by us invasion and we see the rack and ruin in iraq almost on a daily basis with deadly. tragic car bombings and such still this is what the us is it is an employer it's a global empire and it goes wherever it wants to go and does whatever it wants

. >> well, i have just returned from libya. i have met with his family, neighbors, been to his house, the sense they have is this is a man who had given up on al qaeda a long time ago. he was living pretty much in the open in libya. of course, it's been a very divisive issue in libya because it's seen as -- it has had a very negative impact on the government there. the prime minister himself kidnapped during the week by armed militia in the city, essentially over the fact that he was suspected of helping the united states in picking up al libi. for him, a very dangerous development. but the fact that his friends and that his family say that he was living in the open, that he

special forces going into libya. the libyan ostensibly a friend that's got a hat to hang on, please explain, we didn't know about this. but what about the somalis, going anywhere they want and take anything they want? >> as far as libya is concerned it really is a government in name only, michael. we still haven't caught perpetrators of the benghazi from a year ago and that's in part bus of the dysfunction of the libyan government. so the government doesn't control the capital much less the rest of the country. and also there are indications that the government is tacitly supportive of this and protesting for political reasons. likewise, the same is true in somalia. there's not much of a government there as well. so these are lawless places and there's a long recognized legal principle that a country has a right to defend itself because we're not getting the cooperation of the somali government. >> the somali government allowing those attacks from the u.s. important to note. thanks so much. >>> we're also getting new

back to the operation in libya now. the plan now is to bring al libi to new york to face terrorism charges. cnn senior national correspondent nic robertson takes a closer look at al libi's role in al qaeda. >> reporter: it's a big deal, 15 years on the run. $5 million bounty on his head. al libi captured in less than a minute. former senior al qaeda operative picked up in a dorm raid by u.s. authorities, his native libya. believed to be a mastermind of the al qaeda attacks on the u.s. embassies, in kenya and tanzania in august 1998, he is accused of conspiracy to kill u.s. nationals. murder, destruction of american buildings, and government destruction of national defense utilities of the united states. according to al libi's wife, who saw the take down outside their house in the libyan capital, tripoli, he was on his way back from prayers saturday morning when ten men rushed hi car. and before he could snatch his pistol from the glove box, he was overpowered. it was all over in second, driven way in three cars. u.s. of

he is out of libya. where is he? >> what happens is the military will do the attack and then the hrt dukes over. >> hostage rescue team. >> quickly what is your take? >> our take is we don't have a path to dealing with them right now. we normally would take someone to guantanamo they want to try them in new york. i don't think there's a clear path for that. >> tony and jonathan thank you for being with us this evening. coming up, more on yesterday's daring terror raid. now that we have got al-liby what do we do with him? we are going to ask the top law enforcement officer in the nation. former top law enforcement officer. later, the latest on the government shut down. first, what do you think? should congress be paid during the government shut down? facebook or tweet me. we will read your answers later in the show. [ male announcer ] when you wear dentures you may not know that your mouth is under attack, from food particles and bacteria. try fixodent. it helps create a food seal defense for a clean mouth and kills b