one of the most celebrated investigative journalist of our time bob woodward of the washington post he's a reporter on every president since nixon and he's the author or co-author of a dozen number one best selling nonfiction book. considering what he's covered over the years it's appropriate that he joins me at the historic day adams otel overlooking the white house on next politicking. it's always great to go back to washington especially on a lovely day like today and especially to be with an old friend like bob woodward the pulitzer prize winning journalist work for the washington post since one thousand nine hundred seventy one currently is associate editor author a co-author of twelve number one national bestselling nonfiction books most recently the price of politics that is out in paperback with so many of them that is star ok i don't sotelo cate across in the white house and the executive office buildings over bad as the white house president obama and his family say they have the two weeks prior to his first inauguration the president is approaching the end of his fifth year in

still ahead, my sit down with bob woodward. but up next, rand paul blames msnbc's rachel maddow as he responds to allegations of >>> msnbc's rachel maddow had a contentious interview with rand paul and she's bl been at it again accusing the senator of lifting lines from a movie no one has heard of. >> in the not too distance future, engistics is common and that line appears almost verbatim in the wikipedia entry. >> paul dismissed that and a second allegation involving wikipedia as a technical matter, criticized maddow and he let loose on abc's "this week." >> do you concede at least this is pretty sloppy? >> the footnote police have been dogging me for the last week. i will admit that. and i will admit sometimes we haven't footnoted things properly. i take it as an insult and say people cannot call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting. i have never intentionally done so. if dueling were illegal, but i think i'm being targeted by hacks and haters. >> but then another issue, the website washington times reporting that som

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woodward here in r.t. after the break. in my research i randomly came across a sad statistic according to the montpelier a center for the constitution only twenty eight percent of americans have actually read the constitution although the overwhelming majority claimed that they understood some of it and now we see why the constitution especially the bill of rights are getting whittled away the average person doesn't really know what their secret covenant with the government actually says which means the government can get away with reinterpreting the agreement to suit their needs and not yours because no one is the wiser but if you think i'm going to see blue ridge american how dare you then you are wrong the problem is that any kind of philosophy or

back with bob woodward of the washington post about to tell you who he is in iran pluto. let me go over you've interviewed him i've interviewed him you spent more time with him than i have but give me your overall assessment of this man barack obama. he. first of all on the positive side i think he really cares about people i think all of this health care. business is about getting insurance for the thirty million people who don't have it i think he is he has a big heart in his second inaugural there's a line that just blew me away where he said our creed is that the little girl born in the bleakest poverty will have the same chance as anyone else now we know how bleak and he knows how bleak the bleak is poverty in america is when is that child going to have the same chance as your children my children his children two hundred years but he's stated it as a creed and it's a certainly not reachable in his second four years in his presidency but that's in there because he feels that. i was a blip coming in the is and i've written about this is i don't think he has found a wa

one of the most celebrated investigative journalists of our time bob woodward of the washington post he's a reporter on every president since nixon and he's the author or co-author of a dozen number one best selling nonfiction book. considering what he's covered over the years it's appropriate that he joins me at the historic a adams otel overlooking the white house on next politics. it's always great to come back to washington especially on a lovely day like today and especially to be with an old friend like bob woodward the pulitzer prize winning journalist work for the washington post since one thousand nine hundred seventy one car.

bob woodward, katty kay, david axelrod, bill kristol. i'm david gregory in washington. >>> and good sunday morning. the killing of a tsa agent at los angeles international airport is raising questions about the motives of the 23-year-old suspect, and also airport security. do tsa agents need to be armed? our justice correspondent pete williams will be here in a little while to give us an update and fresh report on all of that. but first, the obama care debate. the healthcare.gov was actually offline for repairs over the weekend. they said saturday the glitches are, quote, just the tip of the iceberg. this week, as you might have remembered, the president traveled to boston to compare the rough start of obama care to what he called the slow start of the massachusetts health care plan. but he also praised his 2012 opponent mitt romney, who in 2006, as governor of massachusetts, signed that state's health care reform legislation into law. >> i've always believed that when he was governor here in massachusetts, he did the right thing on heal

bob woodward, what is your take on last night's results? >> it's expected. obviously, three years before a presidential election, it doesn't tell us much. i think the really interesting question is how christie governs in new jersey. what is he going to do? what is his agenda? can he show that this isn't just rhetoric and personality. but i think we go into the age of govern fans because there are so many governing problems right now, particularly in washington. >> david axelrod, in 2009, when we talked about this, you and i privately talked about in 2009, how the big win in virginia, how chris christie's when in new jersey might suggest problems in 2010. the same thing happened in 1993, predicted what was going to happen in 1994. look forward, with those past experiences, what did you see happen last night that might give us an indication of how next year's off-year elections might go? >> well, i'm not sure how to read the tea leaves for 2014. i will say in virginia, you know, you and i have had a lot of discussions about the difference between public polls

. >> bob woodward whether the press is holding the president accountable and his relationship with the "washington post" and its new owner. and we ask president obama about that broken promise on health care. >> you owe folks an

. >> bob woodward on whether the press is holding the president accountable and his relationship with the washington post's new owner jeff bezos. chuck todd asks president obama about that broken promise on health care.

woodward about the obama administration. ay ay ay ay ay ay ay ay ay. i am there's not all new form of humanitarian aid for the twenty first century created by members of the occupied movement. this is nothing to do with hunger and homelessness with different key problem in the so called first world debt. early jubilee project is arty bought around fifteen million dollars parcel that americans around the country most of the financial obligations that they bought more for medical bills and now the people who had to pay these bills are free from their burdens. the group claims that the secondary ticket market is very cheap that they are able to buy the nearly fifteen million dollars in debt for only four hundred thousand dollars the secondary market exists because banks try to sell consists of the unpaid debt to third parties for less than a nickel on the dollar right now i would be begging the role in jubilee project to get rid of my college loans but alas this is always purchased anonymously so it's all pure luck will get sta

. >> we have known for a while according to books like bob woodward and a new book coming out about the authors of being change and disengaging from the nitty-gritty of politics and getting down and dirty dirty and it seems like he is disengaged from the policy as well and i can understand him not knowing anything that goes on in the government how does he not know that the nsa is capping world leaders. how does he not know that the world leaders are being spied upon. that seems to be something that the commander in chief should know, whether he agrees with that or not. but i don't see how he does not know that. neil: that is what worries me the most. because if you take that at face value, it means that there's a government going on with freewheeling spies doing their thing, oblivious to or in contempt of, you know, the president of the united states and that is a little unsettling. >> harry truman needs to have the famous plaque on his track that the buck stops here. certainly not with the president who seems never to know about anything. but looking at kathleen sebelius,she still has

woodward thanks for joining us today.

woodward is famous for breaking the news about the watergate scandal that led to the resignation of president president nixon but on politicking with larry king he caused quite a bit of controversy take a listen to what woodward said about edward snowden's leaks in an interview with artie's that larry king would she come to me instead of particularly good and i would have said. let's not reveal who you were let's make you a pretext to two are saying give me time with this and let's sort. who would. that's the sniffing heard round the world generating headlines from this tweet from glenn greenwald the journalist who did turn those documents over to greenwald suggests that woodward should spend a few minutes to think about why spill it into a kid's information elsewhere while tune in to politicking on our teacher night at nine pm eastern for the whole interview and to see what all the fuss is about but that's going to do it for now i'm meghan lopez see you right back here at five pm. all people are interested but he has something to say everybody has a story i'm up a kind of person wa

woodward thanks for joining us today. if you've. got no opportunity. to start to construct your own. kids don't want to be bad. don't want to meet gangsters you don't want to be drug dealers they don't want that blowing up the time that the kid came be we can see. you just made some hundred dollars and i babied in the hood with a thirty round clip. but i put it out there. i don't want to die i got this really do not want to die young young age. we speak your language anybody will not advance. news programs and documentaries and spanish more matters to you breaking news a little turn to tip angles kidneys storage spiritless are you here slim try to alter the spanish find out more visit i don't call tito it's calm. but the place if it was terrible take place very hard to take a look once again look on here there's a place that you never had sex with that earthquake there is no place to live. limitless play. live. little search tribute gripping the church. leader. was. was. the future of syria as toxic also was due to be dec

woodward thanks for joining us today. was a. very hard to take. on here. that that that would that hurt their feelings. of the people. oh there i marinate this is boom bust and these are the stories we're tracking for you today first up if all you want for christmas is to be debt free then look into occupies debt you believe you will tell you all about it coming right up and it's musical chairs over at the cia to see once again so who's come and who's going we'll fill you in and finally a game of golf berth sat down with juan in studio to discuss debt ceiling debt crisis and the deficit of knowledge in congress you won't want to miss that it's coming right up but now let's get to the ship. with the holidays just around the corner we decided to kick off today's headlines with some debt free jubilee now this story it started all a little over one year ago when a group of occupy wall street activists created these strike down debt project known as rolling jubilee today the group has managed to abolish almost fifteen million

. >> bob woodward whether the press is holding the president accountable and his relationship with the "washington post" and its new owner. and we ask president obama about that broken promise on health care. >> you owe folks an

one of the most celebrated investigative journalist of our time bob woodward of the washington post reporter on every president since nixon and he's the author or co-author of a dozen number one best selling nonfiction book. considering what he's covered over the years it's appropriate that he joins me at the historic adams otel overlooking the white house next politics. there i marinate it this is boom bust and here are some of the stories we're tracking for you today first up the bogle rule will it or won't it be up and running by the end of the year that's the question on deck as the ruling faces new obstacles from top the regulators we'll tell you what's going on coming right up and big banks sure are known for their loyalty aren't they especially when it comes to governments that bail them out right right know we'll tell you about j.p. morgan's already whipped up plan b. for a u.s. debt default and finally lori wallach from public citizen for.

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as woodward, bob woodward said richard nixon the gift that keeps on going. >> all right. and i will offer mine as well. tomorrow is my third year anniversary at fox news. i used to watch this program religiously long before i was employed here to. have this opportunity to sit here at this desk on a part-time basis even once is something i'm very thankful for to be with such esteemed colleagues like this. thank you all for that and that's going to do it for the panel. but stay tuned for a look at the real life hunger games that will be taking place tonight. >>> wrapping up a relaxing day at home there are some that will be making their way through the black friday gauntlet with scenes that look like they are right out of a movie. >> this friday -- the end -- has only begun. >> black friday. >> so truth is scarier than fiction, i guess. that's it for "special report." i'm doug mckelway; "on the record" coming up next. by my large american family. i'll give >>> hello, everyone. happy thanksgiving. i'm kimberly along with bob, eric, dana and andrea. it's 5:00 in new york city

we have brit hume, bob woodward, george will, and judy woodruff. brit, how much trouble is obama care? >> i don't think that he has done much for the broken promise, and despite the language employed there by your guests about the fix, it seems clear to me that the fix won't go very far and won't do very much. if it did, it could destabilize the market paubecause it would leave out of the exchange policies a great many people that need young healthy people to sign up and buy these more expensie extensive policies so they can pay for the older and sicker people. so there is a political problem and a substantive problem, and i don't see that what he as done so far as alleviated it. >> in the house on friday, 39 democrats jumped ship and voted with a republican plan that i think most people would feel would cut obama care, and a general estimate that more than 100 democrats would have joined the republican effort. >> we have to take the things that are working and build off of that and we have to be open as a party for those things not working, identi

you know, that was a problem for bob woodward at the "washington post," people were saying, why are you saving it for your book, you work here. >> bill daily says they thought about it. he was gaffe prone. >> you're being kind to him? he still is gaffe prone. what are you talking about? >> okay, so he still is. they talked about it and said let's keep him. it will look weak. >> i think president obama has thought that vice president biden has been a very good vice president. there was another vice presidential story that comes out of this book and it's about somebody who is possibly relevant in 2016, has an election next week. that's chris christie, the governor of new jersey. in this book the questions were raised of whether or not the rodnrod romney campaign got scared off. they where concerned about his weight and his health and his fitness. if it's true, this book says chris christie didn't want republicans, mitt romney, mainly, campaigning in his home state of new jersey, which i thought was very strange and not a good sign to party insiders. >> that's nothing that i heard before.

. >>> bob woodward told me he got a call from an angry white house official who blamed him for the negative press over the president's health carrollout. why? >> because i started. >> started what? >> started this idea of he's got to lead and he's too passive at times on these budget issues. >> reporter: that was his conclusion in the book, "the price of politics." this means the official who scolded woodward is tieing the latest wave of criticism to a book publishes a year ago. obama is the country's ceo and still failing to lead on the health care mess. >> when the president made a mistake on one of the cabinet nominations, he came out and went public and said i screwed up, end of quote. i think they should do that. this obviously is a miscalculation or a screw up. it's not correct. it's right for the media to say let's straighten this out. >> reporter: that was shortly before the president's semiapology with nbc's chuck todd. it left many critics unsatisfied. >> this is not that complicated. you are trying to make a partisan issue out of it. >> nice try. the memos say, at the end of the

also this weekend legendary journalist bob woodward predicted this. >> it's a mess, cleary. what it isn't and i think you have to look at the question and the motive here, he wants to do something good for 30 million people and get them health insurance. this isn't watergate. this isn't clinton and monica lewinsky. >> i'm not saying it's a scandal. what it seems to be is rank incompetence. >> no question about that. you see all of the stories and the frenzy out there. the game over. the presidency is over. some people are saying i think that's not the case. here is the other side of it which i would agree with george will on. when you go down the road it's going to get worse. because you talk to the experts and they will tell you that this is a money issue. it's going to blow a hole in the budget. >> a big ole. he's right. it will get worse. keep in mind according to the cbo as many as 20 million people they say could lose employer provided health care. that doesn't include the individual market and small business. joining me with reaction to this and more, author and column

. >> it is interesting to see someone like a veteran journalist bob woodward talking about this. he was speaking with chris wallace. and he said the health care's debacle is not watergate. then he said it will get worse. >> there will be further people losing insurance. the employer mandate which will force people to be kicked off their plans. this is the 150th anniversary of government of the people by the people and for the people at the gettysburg address that the president chose not to commemorate. do you know what? what we now have is not just the lying about this. it is the contempt. the contempt by elite washington. contempt of the people and contempt for the people that we know better than you, we are smarter than you and we have a right. that is the dangerous of the entire police clash. >> to get some%, the republicans have dealt with eroding trust. we heard the democrats campaigning that there were no weapons of mass destruction before we went into iraq with you history is a good teacher whempl can the republicans go with this? >> we have said with you the last couple w

fox news senior political analyst, judy woodruff, judge will and bob woodward of "the washington post." in the wake of the president's so-called fix, how much trouble is obama care in and how much trouble is president obama in? >> i don't think he did a great deal for relieve him of the political peril that his broken promise regarded by many as a lie has put him and despite diplomatic language employed by your guests about the fix, it seems clear to me the fix won't go very far and won't do very much and if it did, it would destabilize the market because it would leave out of the exchange policies a great many people of the very kind they need. they need young, healthy people to sign up and buy extensive policies to balance the risk pool so that there will be enough money to afford to pay for the care of the older, sicker people who are also getting this insurance. so there's both a political problem and a substantive problem and ihat what he's done has alleviated it. >> in the house on friday, 39 democrats jumped ship and voted with a republican plan that i think most people feel wo

. >>> here this morning, bob woodward, david axelrod, katty kay and bill kristol. now, david gregory. >>> we get back to the story now of one tsa agent who was left for dead. pete will tell us how the 23-year-old suspect could now be facing the death penalty. pete? >> investigators are trying to determine what got paul astencia into the letters he was carrying. he said if tsa is going to treat every american as a potential terrorist, then it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. the note also said he had no intention of killing, quote, innocents, and that he made a conscious decision of trying to kill several tsa employees. he said he wanted to instill fear in what he called their traitorous minds. they haven't been able to question him because he's in critical condition in the hospital, but he could get the death penalty if he's convicted. he shot several rounds at hernandez, but when he moved away and hernandez started to move, he returned and shot him again, and as we know, hernandez was fatally wounded, david. >> how much additional security will there be for tsa

>> bob woodward was the first to brethren, th the shocked the supreme court with a lot of inside stuff about how and this pened there, is still woodward's standard that he has eement with his sources in the several books he's written about the books hite house or the he wrote about military. rules are that he'll interview them, but that they can't -- the material can't be used until the book comes out. he can't rush something into "the washington post" column. so i think when you approach a justice that way, and remember, it's a book, you're not going to be writing about a decision that you're ome out yet, so writing about the past, help us understand that. one of the things that he charts in the book you're talking about court's very e mportant decision on whether labor eunice and corporations can use their own money as but ed to setting up pacs, use their own money to spend independent of candidates to upport a candidate and political party. the so-called citizen's united decision. citizen's united came in an odd way. a question of hether a paid broadcast or political documentary abo