gemma godfrey is live in london, and joins us now. gemma, nice to see you. >> hello. >> are 3% rates a bull market killer? >> well, 3% is the level that investors are looking at. but where most of the risk has been stored up is in emerging markets, especially the areas that have the highest foreign ownership. because when liquidity is withdrawn, the economies, if they haven't done enough in terms of actually looking domestically to support their markets, they are the most vulnerable. and the term that's being bounded around at the moment from the likes of morgan stanley is the fragile five. so that's indonesia, india, turkey, brazil, and south africa. and we saw from indonesia just today the third rise in rates since august. so we're talking about rising rates, and now there already is a problem of inflation. so i'd be very concerned and very cautious in the way i would trade this type of market. i wouldn't say it's about being a bull or a bear. but about being eagle-eyed and going in and being much more particular country-to-country