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what does that say about jerry jones? >> well it's how you have a stadium worth $1.2 if you watch your pennies and use flip phones. you can't have it all. >> but these days in dallas no one thinks they have it all. america's team has won only one playoff game in the last 17 years. and fans blame jerry jones, who insists on wearing two hats owner and general manager. >> you must hear the criticism people have, or do you just block it out? >> no, no. as a matter of fact, i probably listen to more talk radio than anyone. >> do you really? you do. you hear it? >> i think i love the pain. >> you do? >> i recently was after a serious loss i was doing a lot of blood work. and they said we want to be sure and get this nurse in that really knows how to be gentle and get it done quickly on the first time. and i said this morning i need one that needs to try ten times. i want some pain. >> literally this happened? >> i did. that happened. and i need to cry a little bit. and so that's not a bad thing. >> the hurt? >> certainly critic
what does that say about jerry jones? >> well it's how you have a stadium worth $1.2 if you watch your pennies and use flip phones. you can't have it all. >> but these days in dallas no one thinks they have it all. america's team has won only one playoff game in the last 17 years. and fans blame jerry jones, who insists on wearing two hats owner and general manager. >> you must hear the criticism people have, or do you just block it out? >> no, no. as a matter of fact, i...
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jerry jones doesn't pay any property taxes. based on other comparable businesses in the same county, he should be paying $6 million to $8 million a year in property taxes. >> here is a clip from 1996 with senator john mccain talking about another aspect of taxpayer money. million dollars to repair the anaheim stadium scoreboard. i'm sure that the good people of anaheim appreciate this federal largess and will enjoy watching this new scoreboard but i don't believe that such a repair is a federal responsibility. anaheim stadium is an entity that charges admission. i would assume it strives to make a profit. yet i have heard of no one offering to pay back the federal government for its investment in the scoreboard. >> this is a democracy, a republic where the voter has something to say about who is in office. isn't this what the taxpayer once? >> a.b., if taxpayers want to be bled dry for sports. let's give another example. senator mccain mentions federal construction funds to repair a stadium. the place that is now called the mer
jerry jones doesn't pay any property taxes. based on other comparable businesses in the same county, he should be paying $6 million to $8 million a year in property taxes. >> here is a clip from 1996 with senator john mccain talking about another aspect of taxpayer money. million dollars to repair the anaheim stadium scoreboard. i'm sure that the good people of anaheim appreciate this federal largess and will enjoy watching this new scoreboard but i don't believe that such a repair is a...
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we'll show you why owner jerry jones can thank his wife and daughter. but first, here's a look at today's "eye-opener" at 8:00. >>> 3.5 million people lining the parade route in frigid temperatures will get to enjoy not only the floats and marching bands, but the balloons. >>> six fewer shopping days this year between thanksgiving and christmas. the stores are bringing out the bargains earlier and earlier and there are deep discounts. >> opponents of the health care law are seizing on this delay for small businesses as another reason they believe the law is failing. >>> a dramatic standoff is finally over this morning in california. [ shots ] >>> california's monterey bay is teeming with an unusual number of humpback whales but the whales should already be long gone. >> they're right here. i mean it's crazy. >>> did history get it wrong when it comes to the "mayflower"? >> no mayflower, no thanksgiving. >> absolutely. turkeys would be saved. >> happy thanksgiving from kabul, afghanistan! >> you're right, man, it's football, family feasting. it's all par
we'll show you why owner jerry jones can thank his wife and daughter. but first, here's a look at today's "eye-opener" at 8:00. >>> 3.5 million people lining the parade route in frigid temperatures will get to enjoy not only the floats and marching bands, but the balloons. >>> six fewer shopping days this year between thanksgiving and christmas. the stores are bringing out the bargains earlier and earlier and there are deep discounts. >> opponents of the health...
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jerry jones doesn't pay any. based on my book i researched, other comparable businesses in the same county, he should be paying $6 million to $8 million a year in property taxes. he doesn't pay anything. >> senator john mccain is talking about another aspect of taxpayer money. >> spent $5,6 87,002 to repair the anaheim stadium score board. the good people of anaheim enjoyed this and certainly enjoy watching this new score board, but i don't believe such a repair is a federal responsibility. anaheim stadium charges admission, i would assume it strives to make a profit, but i heard no one offering to pay back the federal government for the investment in the score board. >> this is a democracy, a republic where the voter has something to say about who's in office. isn't this what the taxpayer want s? >> if they want to be for the sports. is there a choice? give another example. senator mccain mentioned federal construction funds to repair a stadium. it's called the mercedes benz superdome in new orleans. once played
jerry jones doesn't pay any. based on my book i researched, other comparable businesses in the same county, he should be paying $6 million to $8 million a year in property taxes. he doesn't pay anything. >> senator john mccain is talking about another aspect of taxpayer money. >> spent $5,6 87,002 to repair the anaheim stadium score board. the good people of anaheim enjoyed this and certainly enjoy watching this new score board, but i don't believe such a repair is a federal...
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jerry jones? yeah, that is more like it. the raiders could not stop the cowboys running game. demarco murray gives him the lead with his third touchdown. dallas beats oakland 31-24. >>> at at&t stadium, you see the final score. for the ninth time in 12 games t raiders score first, but like the story goes, unable to finish. >> really, the game boiled down to, you know, in the second half, we wore down, they were able to run the ball. we were not able to get off the field. >> i had a calendar. i checked it. i wanted to come here and play well for the team i played for. so, um ... you know, it sucks that we didn't get the win. >> we feel like we are a better team than what our record would suggest. but, you are what your record says you are. so ... tough loss for us. and you know ... onto the next one i guess. >> reporter: the loss assures the raiders an 11th straight season without a record since going to the superbowl in 2002. and they have ten days to think about it before going to the jets. at at&t stadium, in arlington, texas, vern glenn, kpix5. >>> a tradition unlike any ot
jerry jones? yeah, that is more like it. the raiders could not stop the cowboys running game. demarco murray gives him the lead with his third touchdown. dallas beats oakland 31-24. >>> at at&t stadium, you see the final score. for the ninth time in 12 games t raiders score first, but like the story goes, unable to finish. >> really, the game boiled down to, you know, in the second half, we wore down, they were able to run the ball. we were not able to get off the field....
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jerry jones up in the booth loves it. 21-all late in the game. this guy with three touchdowns on the day. that makes it 28-21. that will be it for the raiders. cowboys win. raiders drop to 4-8. >> reporter: ouch. it was remote anyway. no way to get in the playoffs. >> reporter: they're not a playoff team. had they won, there's a big difference. they could have pretended for a little while longer those hopes would exist. if they win one more game, it will be a better year than last. >>> thousands came out to participate in a thanksgiving day tradition. before the big meal and shopping, families came out for the turkey trot. the event was fun for the entire family with several events to choose from like runs. there were runners and walkers. they all enjoyed the nice weather and the course. it helps to raise money for a number of charities. >>> coming up, thanksgiving kicks off the holiday season and no holiday is complete without gingerbread houses. just how big is the largest one? plus this holiday comes with the famous parade and how the balloons
jerry jones up in the booth loves it. 21-all late in the game. this guy with three touchdowns on the day. that makes it 28-21. that will be it for the raiders. cowboys win. raiders drop to 4-8. >> reporter: ouch. it was remote anyway. no way to get in the playoffs. >> reporter: they're not a playoff team. had they won, there's a big difference. they could have pretended for a little while longer those hopes would exist. if they win one more game, it will be a better year than last....
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. >> jerry parks and his family followed jones from the midwest out to ukiah in 1966. jerry got a job in a supermarket. >> he started talking about everybody giving 25% of their income. i sat down one time and figured after i got back how much money i gave that man, and it was around 76,000 bucks. >> his youngest daughter tracy learned to fear jones when she started school and was told to stay away from other children. >> if you got caught talking to people that were not affiliated with the church then you would be in trouble for that. >> trouble at jim jones' wednesday night meetings. he called them catharsis, the purging of evil. >> so i was scared to do anything wrong because i was scared i would be called up and be beaten. >> leslie wilson was 13 when she first encountered the peoples temple and the hold it had on members. >> what happened in catharsis? >> if you were doing something incorrectly which nine times out of ten someone would find something you did incorrectly you would be called to the floor and disciplined. >> how? >> either by a paddle or being spanke
. >> jerry parks and his family followed jones from the midwest out to ukiah in 1966. jerry got a job in a supermarket. >> he started talking about everybody giving 25% of their income. i sat down one time and figured after i got back how much money i gave that man, and it was around 76,000 bucks. >> his youngest daughter tracy learned to fear jones when she started school and was told to stay away from other children. >> if you got caught talking to people that were not...
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jones took the world's largest television in put it above the twenty yard lines in his stadium so you get that as well as a lot of action i think it was with the giants jaguars books. they're not good the longer. that's right we export the the women's teams well i mean each case is specific obviously the giants did just win two in a row and in the n.f.c. east that's good enough for being two games out of first so they're not they're on of my week right now hoping to get a little healthier and then come back and they actually are in this thing the buccaneers have just been they have been a team that. just been snakebit from the very beginning they had the jets beaten in week one. and then one of their their best defenders leval david david lee he had already had an interception in the game he shoved geno smith out of bounds late the jets took advantage and won that game and since then the coach has since excommunicated the franchise quarterback he's now in minnesota you saw well that's working out so if there's just like a dark cloud over that team and they're when most and they go to
jones took the world's largest television in put it above the twenty yard lines in his stadium so you get that as well as a lot of action i think it was with the giants jaguars books. they're not good the longer. that's right we export the the women's teams well i mean each case is specific obviously the giants did just win two in a row and in the n.f.c. east that's good enough for being two games out of first so they're not they're on of my week right now hoping to get a little healthier and...
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it's touch to see jerry jones bringing garrett back. should the players miss the playoffs, it's for the fourth consecutive season. >> miami's head coach joe tilburn had his name in the running for coach of the years. with the jonathan martin and rickie incognito saga unfolding only time will tell. tilburn may be a casualty. the coach ha large role in establishing the leadership in the dolphin's locker room. >> joe tilburn wanted to control all that went down in the locker room and the council that rickie incognito was a part of. he was appointed - these are joe filburn's guys a part of the council that were the leaders in the locker room. >> and finally the miami heat will be without chalmers, suspended for a foul against dirk last night. chalmers hits dirk in the head and neck with his forearm. he was ejected from the game. chalmers hit blake griffin high on a similar reply. the nba upgraded it to a flagrant 2 and fined chalmers $15,000. that's a wrap. any time in the nba you hit a guy up high you are penalized. >> you heard of a class
it's touch to see jerry jones bringing garrett back. should the players miss the playoffs, it's for the fourth consecutive season. >> miami's head coach joe tilburn had his name in the running for coach of the years. with the jonathan martin and rickie incognito saga unfolding only time will tell. tilburn may be a casualty. the coach ha large role in establishing the leadership in the dolphin's locker room. >> joe tilburn wanted to control all that went down in the locker room and...
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if the boys don't get over the hump this season it's tough to see jerry jones bringing garrett back. should the cowboys miss the playoffs it will be for the fourth consecutive season. >>> after a surprising 4-1 start miami joe philbin had his name in the records, after the jonathan martin richie incognito scandal continues to unfold. establishing the leadership in the dolphins locker room. >> from what i understand, joe philbin, somewhat of a control freak wanted to why exroal everything that went down in that locker room, joe philbin's guys were a part of that council that were the leaders in that locker room. >> john henry smith, al jazeera. >> thank you very much. two perennial world cup participants having to fight their way into the field this time around. new zealand won on aggregate goals, portugal in the same spot facing sweden in the same scenario. a crowd of 61,000 in list bon, kind of sloppy play, until christiachristiano renldo, thate portuguese team a 1-nil win, the rematch will be on tuesday. that wraps up sports, the key there, aggregated, whoever has more wins, right?
if the boys don't get over the hump this season it's tough to see jerry jones bringing garrett back. should the cowboys miss the playoffs it will be for the fourth consecutive season. >>> after a surprising 4-1 start miami joe philbin had his name in the records, after the jonathan martin richie incognito scandal continues to unfold. establishing the leadership in the dolphins locker room. >> from what i understand, joe philbin, somewhat of a control freak wanted to why exroal...
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scoops it up, he scores before jerry jones was ever inside his luxury box. tied in the 2nd quarter, jennings outside to pay dirt held to 35 yards but the raiders took a 14-7 lead. and then later in the quarter, jennings scores his second of the game. 21-7 raiders, dallas stunned. 21-14 raiders still by 7 at the break. someone named selina gomez entertained the crowd. romo finds the security blanket, dez bryant for the touchdown. game tied at 21. murray continues his thanksgiving feast on the ground and the raiders defense, scored his third touchdown early in the fourth to give dallas the 28-21 lead. dallas rushes for 144 yards. here's the key to the game. mcgloin throws it up, jump ball, jacoby ford is 5'9." that is not a good decision cowboys won 31-24. vern glenn in dallas. >> reporter: at at&t stadium you see the final score for the ninth time in 12 games the raiders score first and like the story goes, unable to finish. they did not convert a third down the entire second half. again it's hard to do that when you don't have the ball. >> we didn't have an
scoops it up, he scores before jerry jones was ever inside his luxury box. tied in the 2nd quarter, jennings outside to pay dirt held to 35 yards but the raiders took a 14-7 lead. and then later in the quarter, jennings scores his second of the game. 21-7 raiders, dallas stunned. 21-14 raiders still by 7 at the break. someone named selina gomez entertained the crowd. romo finds the security blanket, dez bryant for the touchdown. game tied at 21. murray continues his thanksgiving feast on the...
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if the boys don't get over the hump this season it's tough to see jerry jones bring garrett back. should the cowboys miss the playoffs it will be for the fourth consecutive season. >>> and surprising 4 and 1 start miami dolphins coach philbin had his name in the running for coach of the year. now the team is under 500 and could be the richie incognit incognito-martin saga could change that. >> head coach of the miami dolphins, somewhat of a control freak wanted to control what went down in that locker room and the counsel that richie incognito was a part of, these are philbin's guys that were the leaders in that locker room. >> thank you so much. many professional sports teams are giving back to the community, and the fans--holding the come to our house thanksgiving dinner serving meals to central indiana shelters, and many of the pacers players as well, and this organization has been holding this event for 16 years. >>> now in other nevil new nfl . now 650 men, women and children were served by the pacers earlier this week. we mentioned this earlier in the hour. mike mccormack ha
if the boys don't get over the hump this season it's tough to see jerry jones bring garrett back. should the cowboys miss the playoffs it will be for the fourth consecutive season. >>> and surprising 4 and 1 start miami dolphins coach philbin had his name in the running for coach of the year. now the team is under 500 and could be the richie incognit incognito-martin saga could change that. >> head coach of the miami dolphins, somewhat of a control freak wanted to control what...
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after the game, cowboys owner jerry jones said, maybe we made a mistake firing ryan. i'm guessing losing by more than 30 points will have you second-guessing some of those decisions. >> i guess so. thank you, andy. >>> i wanted to add that incognito did say it was inappropriate for him to use those racial slurs. it was part of that interview as well. >>> coming up, the marines, now on the ground in the philippines. search and rescue efforts under way in the aftermath of this monster typhoon. officials confirming the death toll could top 10,000. discover. how can i help you? oh, you're real? you know i'm real! at discover, we're always here to talk. good, 'cause i don't have time for machines. some companies just don't appreciate the power of conversation! you know, i like you! i like you too! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and talk to a real person. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there ar24/7.branches? i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! (cat
after the game, cowboys owner jerry jones said, maybe we made a mistake firing ryan. i'm guessing losing by more than 30 points will have you second-guessing some of those decisions. >> i guess so. thank you, andy. >>> i wanted to add that incognito did say it was inappropriate for him to use those racial slurs. it was part of that interview as well. >>> coming up, the marines, now on the ground in the philippines. search and rescue efforts under way in the aftermath of...
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and we go one on one with dallas cowboys owner and general manager jerry jones. what made him emotional and his response to criticism of another lackluster season. the news is back in the morning. and we'll see you at 7:00. >> thank you, charlie. >>> coming up next, 6:51, roughly 80 tornadoes touch down in the midwest over the weekend. a live look at the destruction in one of the hardest hit communities. >> a fiery plane crash all caught on camera. what caused the plane to go down. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, strip rob ford of most of h remaining powers. ford would become mayor of toronn without any real >>> five things to know at the :55. toronto city council will take a motion to strip rob ford of most of his remaining powers as mayor. ford would become mayor of toronto in name only without any power. the council cannot remove him from office unless he is convicted of a crime. ford promises to fight back with legal action and a re- election campaign. >>> all 50 people on board a boeing 737 were killed when it went down about 450 miles east of moscow yesterday. rus
and we go one on one with dallas cowboys owner and general manager jerry jones. what made him emotional and his response to criticism of another lackluster season. the news is back in the morning. and we'll see you at 7:00. >> thank you, charlie. >>> coming up next, 6:51, roughly 80 tornadoes touch down in the midwest over the weekend. a live look at the destruction in one of the hardest hit communities. >> a fiery plane crash all caught on camera. what caused the plane to...
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jones took the world's largest television in put it above the twenty yard lines in his stadium so you get that as well as a lot of action i think what's cool with the giants jaguars books. they're not good the longer. that's right we export the the women's teams well i mean each case is specific obviously the giants did just win two in a row and in the n.f.c. east that's good enough for being two games out of first so they're not they're on of my week right now hoping to get a little healthier and then come back and they actually are in this thing the buccaneers have just been they have been. it has just been snakebit from the very beginning they had the jets beaten in week one. and then one of their their best defenders live on david david he had already had an interception in the game he shoved geno smith out of bounds late the jets took advantage and won that game and since then the coach has since excommunicated the franchise quarterback he's now in minnesota you saw well that's working out. so it is just like a dark cloud over that team and they're when most and they go to seattl
jones took the world's largest television in put it above the twenty yard lines in his stadium so you get that as well as a lot of action i think what's cool with the giants jaguars books. they're not good the longer. that's right we export the the women's teams well i mean each case is specific obviously the giants did just win two in a row and in the n.f.c. east that's good enough for being two games out of first so they're not they're on of my week right now hoping to get a little healthier...
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. >> jerry parks and his family followed jones from the midwest out to ukiah in 1966. jerry got a job in a supermarket. >> he started talking about everybody giving 25% of their income. i sat down one time and figured after i got back how much money i gave that man, and it was around 76,000 bucks. >> his youngest daughter tracy learned to fear jones when she started school and was told to stay away from other children. >> if you got caught talking to people that were not affiliated with the church then you would be in trouble for that. >> trouble at jim jones' wednesday night meetings. he called them catharsis, the purging of evil. >> so i was scared to do anything wrong because i was scared i would be called up and be beaten. >> leslie wilson was 13 when she first encountered the peoples temple and the hold it had on members. >> what happened in catharsis? >> if you were doing something incorrectly which nine times out of ten someone would find something you did incorrectly you would be called to the floor and disciplined. >> how? >> either by a paddle or being spanke
. >> jerry parks and his family followed jones from the midwest out to ukiah in 1966. jerry got a job in a supermarket. >> he started talking about everybody giving 25% of their income. i sat down one time and figured after i got back how much money i gave that man, and it was around 76,000 bucks. >> his youngest daughter tracy learned to fear jones when she started school and was told to stay away from other children. >> if you got caught talking to people that were not...
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and after the game, jerry jones said, may be we made a mistake firing him. >>> good news for the denver broncos, peyton manning threw for many touch downs. bad news is, he got hit and took a shot and went down late in the game. after the game, he talked about his injury. >> pretty sore. he kind of got moo twice in that kind of that lower area. i felt better come into the game after the bi week. pretty sore. >> they have their fingers crossed for the mri. on "bleacher report," you can see the craziest play from this weekend. down seven, no time left on the clock. be bengals going for the hail mary. and it's tipped right into the arms of a.j. green. the ravens won by a field goal in overtime. >> i was in baltimore and the town celebrated. >> real quick. breaking news. the braves announced they're moving to a brand new stadium and should be ready by 2017. >> and they're going to move the stadium out of the atlanta into the suburbs. usually it's the other way around. >>> the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now. >>> happening now in the "newsroom," people who survived this destruction now
and after the game, jerry jones said, may be we made a mistake firing him. >>> good news for the denver broncos, peyton manning threw for many touch downs. bad news is, he got hit and took a shot and went down late in the game. after the game, he talked about his injury. >> pretty sore. he kind of got moo twice in that kind of that lower area. i felt better come into the game after the bi week. pretty sore. >> they have their fingers crossed for the mri. on "bleacher...
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if the boys don't ge over the hump it's tough to see jerry jones bring him back. if the cowboys miss the playoffs, it will be for the fourth season. after a 4 and 1 start miami dolphins ed-tilburn had his name in as coach of the year. with the jonathan martin-rickie incognito saga unfolding filburn may be a casualty of the scandal. coach filburn had a large role in establishing leadership. >> the head coach of the miami dolphins - a control freak wanted to control all that went down in the locker room and the council that rickie incognito was a part of. he was appointed. these are joe filburn's guys that were the leader in the locker room. >> more news and more news from. nfl. that's a look at the sport. >> and next up - dubai is on a major shopping spree at this year said air show and gulf car iers are spending big money. many of the cords going to boeing, $130 billion worth of orders on the first day. for more, the largest air show let's go to the correspondent live in dubai. it's been a record-setting day. tell us about the purchases there. >> yes, it's been a
if the boys don't ge over the hump it's tough to see jerry jones bring him back. if the cowboys miss the playoffs, it will be for the fourth season. after a 4 and 1 start miami dolphins ed-tilburn had his name in as coach of the year. with the jonathan martin-rickie incognito saga unfolding filburn may be a casualty of the scandal. coach filburn had a large role in establishing leadership. >> the head coach of the miami dolphins - a control freak wanted to control all that went down in...
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tonight on his show, he'll sit down with quincy jones, jerry springer, and rapper tyler the creator. you can see "the arsenio hall show" right after we are done at ten. that's right. up next... a south holland family's gift to the city of chicago for christmas. and later in sports... the doctors said it would be at least four weeks, but less than three weeks after his injury in washington, jay cutler is ready to start sunday's game against the lions. the lions. i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male announcer ] with stamps.com you can print real u.s. postage for all your letters and packages. i have exactly the amount of postage i need, the instant i need it. can you print only stamps? no... first class. priority mail. certified. international. and the mail man picks it up. i don't leave the shop anymore. [ male announcer ] get a 4 week trial plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. the city of chicago put up its first municipal christmas tree one century ago. it w
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chris wallace jones us. >> jerry seid speculated with the impact and reaction from the america's insurance company and the answer is very negative. the americas health insurance plan and trade association put out a statement and let me read you this. changing the rules after the health plans have met the requirements of the care could result in higher premiums for consumers. premiums are set for next year based on consumption of consumers. and if now fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase coverage in the exchanges, premiums will increase and fewer choices for consumers. and in other words, you can't just hit the re- set button and say all of those people in the exchanges and including the healthy young people would lower the premiums for all of these new services that you are going to offer to older and sicker people is not going to work. you can't pick one pose of yarn out. it is still a mess. >> the other part health care providers. united health care and a etna, made the decision to get out of the individual health care marketplace, and it made no financial sense. the pre
chris wallace jones us. >> jerry seid speculated with the impact and reaction from the america's insurance company and the answer is very negative. the americas health insurance plan and trade association put out a statement and let me read you this. changing the rules after the health plans have met the requirements of the care could result in higher premiums for consumers. premiums are set for next year based on consumption of consumers. and if now fewer younger and healthier people...