that seems to be fighting with everybody from mike enzi to allen simpson, to you know im. >> let me go to joy. if you were a conservative of wyoming and you like the jib of the woman running out there and thought it was time for a new generation. and you heard she was loyal to her sister on same-sex marriage because she was her sister, would anybody normal vote against her if they knew the reason. people don't make -- people aren't that dumb and klutzy to say if she's on that position. no she takes that because of her sister. understand that. who would want the votes of people who voted for you when you threw your sister under the bus? who would want those people? is politics that desperate? as jack kennedy once said party loyalty asks too much. >> you're right. i grew up in colorado out west. we drove through colorado a lot. the thing about people out west, they are conservative. when i was growing up colorado

whose cheney is waging a challenge against mike enzi. alan simpson is supporting enzi and lynne cheney's mom is upset about that. she said how could you forget the 8-year-old girl who campaigned with us and for you in '78. how could you not support her and i said i have known mike enzi over 35 years. lynn said i don't want to hear anymore. i want to tell you something, shut up. shut up. shut up. three times i wandered off stunned. lynne cheney's mom telling alan simpson to shut up. it was the biggest thing to happen in the senate race until her dad got in to the chief. dick cheney came out on tv to declare that in no way was he a fishing buddy with mike enzi. >> he himself said he felt blind sided by your whole family. said he thought you were his friend. how do you respond to that. >> he said mike and i are fishing buddies. simply not true. never happened. >> people talk about not wanting the clintons back in office. we don't want to deal with the clinton family drama. what about the cheneys. mike enzi fishing buddy thing with dad and t

it's sad going back to the first breach was deciding to primary mike enzi. the second breach was lynn cheney calling allen simpson a liar and ending that friendship. now this breach is with her sister. and another breach, i think you're referring to before is dick and lynn come out and kind of basically back liz and say, no, she's never supported gay marriage. and that -- what must that feel like? they really did in this particular spat take liz's side, not mary's. so there's something very disturbing. >> i'm sorry, joan. you probably saw -- there's a great scene when the young man betrays him. sells him out. saying you never say anything against the king. he said you're giving your mortal soul away for wales? i mean, she's giving it up for wyoming. and she's -- how could she go to her sister two weeks later and say you know i had to do it? >> republicans admire when people stick up for their family. that's fundamental. >> she doesn't think so. >> i know. but you know what? any voter can get over a disagreement. what they can't get over is a character flaw.

fig yush there's only so many to the hard right of mike enzi. here's liz cheney, she is feeling some pressure from the right. this advertisement was released for pass comments on gay rights. let's watch. >> in wyoming, cheney campaigns as a conservative. in washington, she appears on msnbc to campaign against the marriage amendment and support government benefits for gay couples. >> i applaud, for example, the state department decision to extend benefits to same-sex partners around the world. >> liz cheney, wrong for wyoming. >> well, there you go. what do you make of that, capehart? she's nailed for coming on this network. my god. how tough is it getting out there? >> i know. the idea liz cheney is not conservative is what is hilarious to me. she is very conservative. joy, you ran down all the reasons why she is. and the fact she came on msnbc, you know, like to get both sides. folks watching liz cheney know she's not a card carrying liberal. she's not a democrat. she is a republican and she is a conservative. the fact she's being hammered for,

it's sad going back to the first breach was deciding to primary mike enzi. the second breach was lynn cheney calling allen simpson a liar and ending that friendship. now this breach is with her sister. and another breach, i think you're referring to before is dick and lynn come out and kind of basically back liz and say, no, she's never supported gay marriage. and that -- what must that feel like? they really did in this particular spat take liz's side, not mary's. so there's something very disturbing. >> i'm sorry, joan. you probably saw -- there's a great scene when the young man betrays him. sells him out. saying you never say anything against the king. he said you're giving your mortal soul away for wales? i mean, she's giving it up for wyoming. and she's -- how could she go to her sister two weeks later and say you know i had to do it? >> republicans admire when people stick up for their family. that's fundamental. >> she doesn't think so. >> i know. but you know what? any voter can get over a disagreement. what they can't get over is a character flaw.

she is already down by more than 50 points against mike enzi. after this, probably closer to 60 points. these kinds of candidates don't win. now is it possible for her to come back to win the primary, no. things change in politics. >> of course they do. >> but right now, in an extraordinarily self-destructive way, she has both hurt her position in her family and hurt herself politically, so any reputation she had for being smart is really in jeopardy right now. >> margie, part of liz cheney's campaign against the older mike enzi is that she is running to be a new generation of leader. out with the old, in with the new. but when even your conservative father supports same-sex marriage, is there anything really fresh on you about her stance? >> no. this issue is probably the fastest-moving social issue that really anybody has ever seen. i mean, i was looking at state by state breakouts on gay marriage. and in wyoming, the -- support for gay marriage has doubled since about not even ten years ago. doubled. and we don't even know where it's going to

senator mike enzi under fire from challenger liz cheney. americans for jobs security has put up an attack ad tying senator enzi to obama care. >> mike enzi praised them. >> i like the exchanges. these exchanges can be good. >> good? yoem wyoming's obama care exchange has the most expensive in the country it's marred by glitches. >> i like the exchanges. >> tell mike enzi we don't leak these big liberal obama care changes, paid for by americans for job security. >> i would have stung out with it one more time i like the exchanges. that's a good one. we know the margin. he has a fairly comfortable lead over liz cheney in this primary. does this hurt him? >> no, because there the a basic problem with that ad and that is that senator enzi voted against obama care. he's soeted to defund it. he's voted to repeal it. people in wyoming will find that out. so this americans for jobs security, which is trying to help liz cheney, is actually undermining herbie putting out something that is so misleading. this race continues to be very personal. yester

senator mike enzi, thanks much for your time today. >> thank you. >>> deadly tornado outbreak ripping through a dozen states from the midwest to the northeast and the south. at least eight bodies found among the devastation. in illinois half a dozen people killed as debris went flying. the twister leveled entire neighborhoods. tearing off roofs, flipping cars, uprooting trees. we go to hard hit manhattan, illinois, garrett i see the destruction where you're standing. what can you tell us? >> reporter: gretchen, the clean up efforts are under way in manhattan as well as throughout much of the state. crews are going through this area. this was a 10,000-square-foot warehouse for a landscaping business. none of these walls are standing. it left the entire building for a mile through those fields. now, of course, this was just one of the smaller tornadoes that hit the state in the center part of illinois, washington that's where the worst damage is we're told, 150 to 200 people were injured there. that's where one of the deaths is. the death total is up to eight people as two people had al

enzi decided to make liz cheney choose sides. >> she's been attacked by superpack ads for being in favor of gay marriage. she appears on msnbc to campaign against the marriage amendment. >> jon: oh, my god she appears on msnbc that's basically the gay bath house of cable news. [laughter] that makes what she said on the network gay squared. [laughter] but that was a chance for liz cheney to have a defining moment to stand up not only for her sister but for equality. >> i do believe it's an issue that has to be left up to the states. i do believe in the traditional definition of marriage. >> jon: you know remember when dick cheney retired and we were worried there wouldn't be a cheney on television saying all of things -- awful things? there lives another. but the cheney's are not alone in facing a bit of fuss these days. >> hallmark's new holiday sweater ornament uses a lyric from deck the halls don we now our fun apparel. they used the word fun to replace the word gay. >> jon: first of all how many people were sitting around that (bleep) table? second of all this is happening so much lik

one -- the theory of the race, is why do you need to replace mike enzi. the answer is because liz cheney is a much more combative personality. leave aside whether we need more of that. enzi is very conservative. the point is as you just said, she's much more aggressive and confrontational than he is. leave aside the question of whether or not we need more of that in washington. i don't think we do. but leave that aside. the point is, you start confrontations, people are going to confront you back. this is a little taste of what this kind of rough method, you invoked a very gentle mode of discussion and i think that's appropriate but that is not -- >> you think she started this discussion. they asked her on fox news her opinion and she gave it. she gave it in a winsome, kind, loving way and somehow because she said it she was the villain' th they beat her up for it. >> her sister did. there was also an interesting dig that heather poe, her sister's spouse, took at her which said i can't help but wonder how liz would feel if as she moved from state to state

it seems inevitable that liz cheney trying to run to the right of mike enzi in wyoming, would run straight into this conflict with her sister over marriage equality. >> that's right. there is not a lot of room left to the right of mike. here is a guy who has a plus ratings from all of the big conservative groups. a lot of his allies out there is that they have run these ads featuring liz cheney on msnbc, essentially coming out in support of these benefits. listen, i am so against same sex marriage that i don't even agree with my own sister's choice. one thing that is unique is that if you look at the chatter that we have seen over this, it isn't really playing in wyoming. i was looking at the top news sites and this story barely made the top ten list and a lot of the stories out there were three or four sentences. i don't think with the wyoming voters who know mike enzi very well that that is going to make a difference in this race where you already see that liz is far ,far behind. >> mary cheney has said she will not be spending christmas with liz cheney, and that thanksgiving is going to

let's look at mike enzi's record. let's put it up on the screen. he has a 93% lifetime rating from the american conservative union. 100% from the national right to life committee and an a plus from the nra. is there something wrong with that record or are you just saying that at age 69, he's too old? >> it's not about age. he's been here for 18 years. the last five under barack obama. and the people of wyoming are suffering greatly. we're ground zero for this president's policies. when you're in a position like that, it's not enough just to say, i'm going to go along to get along and continue business as usual. it's going to take people who are willing to lead. people willing to stand up and say, you know what? the president's war on coal isn't just going to devastate wyoming. anybody around this country who likes to flip a switch and have the lights come on will appreciate the affordable electricity are with us on the war on coal. it requires leadership and mobilizing people to stand up against this onslaught of our constitutional rights, our libe

dick cheney disputing whether or not he and mike enzi are fishing buddies. none of that matters at all to republican primary voters in the state of wyoming and that's bad for liz cheney. >> mary cheney responded on facebook to sister saying, liz, this isn't an issue on which we disagree, which is the language liz used with chris wallace. you were just wrong and on the wrong side of history. karen, there's no question that liz cheney needs to persuade wyoming voters she's of wyoming. frankly having spent some time in wyoming and having watched this over the years, i don't think there's any doubt the cheneys are connected to wyoming. the parents have always had a house there. she's fourth generation on one side, third generation on the other. she worked in government and lived in mclane, virginia but the carpet bagger label is a little hard to make stick. >> again, this whole thing is inexplicable except the significance of it is the feud that is going on inside the cheney family is the same feud over social issues going on in the larger republican family righ

mike enzi has not had a serious campaign in a long time and he's going to have to run a rough campaign to beat her. she's out there, denver on wednesday, tomorrow, raising more money. >> money won't be an issue. >> correct. >> susan, you do -- you know, small states don't like campaigns like this. you always find -- because they're just -- small-state races, state-wide races are personal. they always are very voters. that's why this one strikes me as i'm not going to claim wyoming voters what they're think bug they don't like the drama. >> if they don't like the drama they're going to hate the next year because this republican primary is going to be brutal. and i think it's clear it's going to be brutal on both sides. and you're right, in small stay, people tend to know the candidates, have a chance to meet them. it makes people uncomfortable. >> this story makes -- i feel like we're eavesdropping on a family dispute at a thanksgiving table. but, you know, they chose to go public with this. jonathan, i want you to react to this. jennifer ruben in "the washington post" sort of takes mar

republican senator mike enzi calling out obama care regulations that he said violated the president's, if you like your plan you can keep it, period, pledge. he was ignored and even mocked by his democratic counterparts, accused of fear-mongering. but many of his ideas were coming true. >> the reality is many of us will be forced to buy the kind of insurance the federal government thinks you should have. >> another prediction about what employers are likely do in the wake of obama care. >> employers will be less likely to hire new workers and probably lay off workers. >> investor's business daily published a list of employers who they say cut hours and workers and staff because of this new law. senator enzi warns that it also takes a hatchet to the regular health care law. >> most businesses, the administration estimates between 39 and 69% will not be able to keep the coverage that they have. >> just this week, a duke university report predicted 68% of those who have employer-based plans will experience significant disruption. and finally, there was this. >> this new regulation appear

is she making up ground on mike enzi? >> well, there was one poll that came out from a superpac that was behind mike enzi that showed a huge lead, like 50 points for the incumbent. cheney's campaign in a sign of atone of what's going on out there put out a poll pointing out that that was also the same company that put out a statement saying that was also the company that showed ted cruz behind by 50 points in his race. nobody knows where the state is. it's a small population. that's what we've been saying here on "morning joe." that liz cheney could win. she'll probably have more money. the fishing fight that we talked about here on "morning joe" before, that just showed it's very personal, very nasty between someone who is -- two families that are both legends in that state. >> mike, let's talk about the fight yesterday with her sister mary cheney. mary cheney and her wife, heather powe, taking to facebook to come out against liz. liz said publicly my sister and i disagree on guy marriage. i am not for guy marriage despi

mike enzi, republican from wyoming, tried to pass a bill because he knew the health care -- small businesses would lose their health care plan. he wanted those grandfathered in. democratvoted this down. they knew this was coming. they have completely sold us an absolute bill of goods here. >> tracy, shouldn't you be worried if you have an employer plan? >> i think everyone should be worried. gary b., i have a better word for you. i think it's deceitful, because they knew back in 2009 that there were going to be people that were turned down. they knew a lot of people would be turned down. and they also knew that people would be forced to costlier plans that didn't provide as good of benefits as they currently have because god forbid everybody is not on an equal playing field. so i think they knew this was going to happen, and we were just slowly learning more and more well what they knew, and now the public is starting to get a sense of it. >> jonas, you actually think it's good for some, bad for others. >> yeah. look, it's a program with winners and losers. if you're in the top half of the h

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she's trying to run to the right of the incumbent senator mike enzi. it provokes a family feud with the cheney sisters. a lot of people are saying this is not the issue that will decide this primary. every day, the cheney sisters are fighting. >> it also plays on a political myth. you can't control your own family, how are you going to control public life? i found that hypocritical. family politics are much more vicious and difficult than any politics that play outside. what do you think that ultimately means, she has drama with her own family? how difficult is that for her to overcome. >> that's the sense, mike enzi is known in wyoming as a nice guy. people think do we want this drama, do we get the whole dick cheney drama again nationally if we elect his daughter? is that what we want in a united states senator. if you're trying to run to the right of mike enzi, i sag he's too willing to cooperate with president obama, he's too willing to do this, every day you spend on this is time you're not spending on the fundamental issues. the republican party,

enzi has had three terms and i think it's time for him to step down what's your reaction to this and say i would knowing the dick cheney i know you would have favored n.s.a. looking into other people's business i'm finding out what's going on for the pure as you said before in the past national security is is the forefront of your thinking but i was a had a major hand in creating the program when i was a vice president. i can remember taking it to the president and discussing it with my cade was and at the n.s.a. and george tenet at cia and we decided if we could get more authority n.s.a. they could do a better job of intercepting terrorist communications and that's why it was set up . i've have not been involved since i left the white house out what do you make of the lessons well i think the revelations are terrible but because they were they were better revealed. there are reasons why we have classified programs i think you think the program is good the revealing was bad exactly and i think this notion that. what's his name no yes no doubt and i think he's a traitor i think he's d

enzi has had three terms and i think it's time for him to step down what's your reaction to this n.s.a. . i would knowing the did cheney i know you would have favored n.s.a. looking into other people's business and finding out what's going on for the pure as you said before in the past national security is is the forefront of your thinking but i was a had a major hand in creating the program i was a vice president. i can remember taking it to the president and discussing it with my cade it was and at the n.s.a. and george tenet at cia and we decided if we could get more authority to the n.s.a. they could do a better job of intercepting terrorist communications and that's why it was set up . i've have not been involved since i left the white house i what do you make of the lessons well i think the revelations are terrible because they were they were revealed. there are reasons why we have classified programs i think you think the program is good the revealing was bad exactly and i think this notion that. what's his name no yes no do i think you traitor i think he's done enormous damage

enzi and she's basically trashing her sister mary or it's turned into this family feud she's certainly you know clearly opposed to gay marriage and her sister is married and gay or lesbian and tom cole weighed in on this republican contest congressman tom cole he told the washington post and i quote republicans need to understand that their political problems are neither tactical nor transitory they are structural and demographic the hard truth is the g.o.p. coalition constitutes a shrinking portion of the electorate to change that daunting reality republicans must appeal to groups that are currently outside their ranks or else the republican party risks becoming a permanent minority so isn't cole right and when mary cheney says that her sister loses. not just wrong but on the wrong side of history isn't there something to that chris well i would say about what tom cole said i think it is vitally important for the republican party to talk about different issues and to expand our base and what we need to be talking about is the freedom agenda giving people more power over their lives in

enzi and she's basically trashing her sister mary or it's turned into this family feud she's certainly you know clearly opposed to gay marriage and her sister is married and gay or lesbian and tom cole weighed in on this republican contest congressman tom cole he told the washington post and i quote republicans need to understand that their political problems are neither tactical nor transitory they are structural and demographic the hard truth is the g.o.p. coalition constitutes a shrinking portion of the electorate to change that daunting reality republicans must appeal to groups that are currently outside their ranks or else. the republican party risks becoming a permanent minority so isn't cole right and when mary cheney says that her sister loses not just wrong but on the wrong side of history isn't there something to that chris well i would say about what tom cole said i think it is vitally important for the republican party to talk about different issues and to expand our base and what we need to be talking about is the freedom agenda giving people more power over their lives in

but in wyoming, senator mike enzi, who liz cheney is challenging, has the same position on same-sex marriage? are the media exploiting this because it's a family feud? >> it's an out of proportion story. there's no question -- i have to agree with rick on this. the reason it's out of proposition is that we in the media love these delicious fights. it's much easier than getting into the health care nuts and bolts. and it's happened throughout history. it's happened with hillary and bill clinton. it's happened when roger clinton, billy carter's brother -- >> bill clinton's brother? >> right. >> billy carter was jimmy carter's brother. >> we love it. newt had a gay daughter. rob porter had a gay son and came out and changed his position. >> let's be clear. the democrats have a platform that's pro-gay marriage. there's a democrat governor candidate in south carolina who is not for that. we don't even know his name. people don't report on him. >> he's a candidate for governor. he's not -- the vice president of the united states -- the cheney family is a bit like the kennedys to the sense to the r

mike enzi leads 69% to 17%.ppro. >>> meanwhile polls show the would-be senator is in trouble. mike enzi leads 69% to 17%.this. >>> meanwhile polls show the would-be senator is in trouble. mike enzi leads 69% to 17%. chuck, what do you make of that and what do you think about the race? >> i'm always a little nervous. wyoming polling is a very difficult state. you would think the smaller the state the easier it would be to poll. we would say just go get a cheyenne phone book. but it is actually a very hard state to poll. i'd be very wary of something like that. i mean it's clear that she's behind. it's obvious her biggest problem which is proving that she's from wyoming. >> there was a 25 year -- >> she shez wouldays way oweays in 30 seconds. >> because that is the easiest way for enzi to go after her. >> is hillary clinton from new york? >> exactly right. and i remember when paul ryan ran for congress, he had the same issue. he was a staffer. he did an ad through the cemetery of his family to say five generations of ryans have lived here. >> that's pretty creepy. >> but it was

republican mike enzi said this will gut the whole gragrandfathg clause and everybody voted against him. >> you know i'm always right. sebelius and obama never had a conversation about anything. would you submit that is -- >> certainly seems that way. >> so they don't talk about anything because president obama is bored with that. doesn't want to do that. president obama didn't read the law. he doesn't have anybody in the white house who will tell him anything contrary. all his guys are like martin van buren to andrew jackson. that's right, general, you're a genius, general. that's how the word came into the english language. okay. everything jack so that said, he went, yes, yes, yes. that's what's going on. president obama when he gets up there and says you know what, i thought it was this or i didn't know that and i thought -- he thought it about that. >> but it's not good enough. >> of course not. that goes to incompetence. >> am i the expert? of course not but that's why i have a chief operating officer and you talk to those people who have the expertise. >> he dpts taidn't talk to

but now she thinks she needs to run to the right of mike enzi, she is ready to sacrifice her relationship with her sister to do that. >> that's sad. thank you both for your time. >> thanks. >> good to be here. >>> coming up, much, much more on the breaking news out of florida. george zimmerman charged with aggravated assault by florida police today. ♪ love... in the nation, what's precious to you is precious to us. ♪ love is strange so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ shhhh! i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh what a relief it is! >>> still ahead, breaking news on george zimmerman. police say he was arrested today after he pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend. he's charged with felony aggravated assault and two other charges. there's another run in with the law

that didn't go over well with mike enzi. or with ellen simpson. she's already got this kind of back stabbing reputation. and then she does it to her sister? >> her own sister, right. >> that's a good point. wyoming is a very conservative state. i don't think that, you know, being against gay marriage and being against someone in your family, being married who is a lesbian or gay, is going to necessarily hurt you. this notion of sort of a pattern of attacking people that have relied on you and you have -- you should have some sort of loyalty to, that's something that will hurt her. people out west, loyalty is a premium to people who live there. and this is -- this is a behavior they would not sort of -- >> loyalty in family, that's the part -- that's the thing i see on this, dick cheney basically supported gay marriage. i think i never really saw the right revolt against dick cheney because of gay marriage because i sort of understood, he's talking about his daughter here. they never connected that to the broader policy implications. if liz cheney

we'd bring in mike enzi from wyoming, people like that? >> the whole thing was built around. when max baucus sat down with chuck grassley to negotiate seven months of fruitless negotiations, the beginning ploy was we're going to use your framework from 1993/'94. one of the things that's bizarre, you've got a health care plan driven around private competition. >> republicans. >> which is what republicans ought to embrace that, it would advance their ideology. but he had no opportunity from the beginning. when robert draper reported in his book that inaugural eve we had a strategy that they were going to vote against everything in unison. basically killed all of that from the getgo. >> i want to get your voice in here. local media when it covers politics, they don't have a lot of reporters. some don't have a political reporter anymore. one politician goes to something, they quote him, quote the other guy and say a lot of finger pointing today and drop it. they never explain who's right. they never show any discernment about what is said. is that a problem today with media, nati

republican mike enzi went to the senate floor and said listen. this is going to gut the whole grandfather -- and every democrat voted against hum. >> you know i'm right pretty much all the time. >> so you tell me. >> and you've modeled yourself after me to some extent. kathleen sebelius and president obama i will submit to you never had a conversation about anything. >> yeah. >> would you submit that that's -- >> it certainly seems that way. >> president obama didn't read the law. he doesn't have anybody in the white house that's going to tell him anything contrary. all his guys are like martin van buren to andrew jackson. that's right, general. you're a genius, general. okay. okay. old kinderherd. that's how ok came into the english language. old kinderherd. because everything he said andrew jackson went yes, yes,er, that's what's going on. when president obama said i didn't know this and i didn't know that -- he thought it. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please always remember that the definitely looking out for you.

you had mike enzi on. three years ago he went out on the senate floor and said millions of people will lose their plans because of the regulations. he offered a bill that would have saved their plans and every single democrat voted no. >> they accused him of fear mongering. >> exactly. >> he's been prove right. >> he has been. >> marc, thank you. >> thank you, megyn. >> there is another story tonight regarding kathleen sebelius. she returned to capitol hill to answer questions on the problems with the obama care rollout and the law itself. the president's promise that if you like your plan you can keep it. watch this. >> the white house website says if you like your plan, you can keep it and you don't have to change a thing due to the health care law. we know that lying to congress is a crime. unfortunately lying to the american people is not. i'd just like to ask you a simple true or false question. is that statement on the white house website true? or is it false? >> sir, i think the statement -- >> is i

enzi. it's become a bitter primary race that's surprised many, not least of whom senator enzi, who said he considered dick cheney a friend. it's a success by all means style of politics that should be no surprise to anyone who followed the elder he cheney's tenure at the white house. now a new book takes us inside that administration and the often misunderstood relationship between george w. bush and dick cheney. joining me now is the author, "new york times" white house correspondent peter baker. peter, i have to say, the excerpts i've read from this book, it is fascinating. you're clearing up so many things that we just -- i didn't see it coming. so it's really cool. really good stuff. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. very kind. >> before we get to details about that, though, what's happening in wyoming, does it surprise you to see the vice president getting personal in his daughter's race? disparaging senator enzi and saying they were never really friends when you're getting some