. >>> for most of my life, libya was a word with bad associations. libya meant gadhafi. libya meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital. >> they fought like hell. >> the rebels are about to force gadhafi's complete departure. >> they recorded the whole thing on their cell phones. >> libya! ♪ i took a walk in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ felt something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha-la-la-la ♪ sha-la-la-la ♪ sha-la-la-la ♪ sha-la-la-la-la ♪ ♪ >>> it's amazing arriving here after all you see on tv these days that libya is, in fact, functioning at all. but it is. the fountains across f

and libya's are militias are on the receiving end of public fury over the government's failure to bring security or stability to the oil rich country. welcome you're watching r.t. international with me andrey pharma. fracking a technique designed to recover gas and oil from shale rock is making more and more enemies around the world for younger stems from the potentially enormous environmental dangers posed by the extraction method the most recent and the fracking rallies have taking place in romania and northern england as police reports it's a tough struggle for locals and activists. fracking and protests seem to be synonymous to my experience of covering these stories there hasn't been an area where locals haven't been opposed to this technology taking place on their doorstep and there's just been a crackdown we've heard reports from remaining here where police have forcibly removed local villages from where energy giant chevron was supposed to start test drilling well i can tell you i can believe that that crackdown was brutal and i can tell you it would have to be because i was in

it didn't get communicated in full measure to the folks in libya. we overestimated the degree to which major militias controlled little guys or to which they might support us. to the extent that it is local. those players have local interests and loyalties that don't always coincide with the u.s. stepping back, i agree with fred. central al-qaeda is taking a hit. would we rather be back in nch or today. there's dangers, but the regional groups grew and we have conflict in civil wars. i worry about syria. there's 11,000 foreign fighters that may be fighting in syria, what will happen do them, where will they go. obviously this continues to be a challenge. i agree central al qaeda is taking a hit. that's a big thing. we have a ways to go. >> jim walsh and fred burton, thank you for joining us. >> coming up, with so many divisive issues, at the forefront of discussion, are we seeing a combination of two americans. what do you think? join us: many worry that the gains made in education will not stick in the future. aljazeera's jane ferguson takes us to

international more than forty people were killed in libya on thursday in a blast at a military death by a group of locals who are trying to steal ammunition but all died in the explosion militias and gangs often attack army bases in the country and clashes between government troops are part of everyday life they're a freelance journalist i cut my marriage she reports from tripoli for ati. this is what he did was there are no fourteen people were killed and more than fifty wounded in a recent clash between islamic militant group and sharia and the military says a report by the interior ministry tripoli is witnessing security problems two over forty people were killed and more than two hundred injured at a rally last week in tripoli as protesters clashed with the militias made to control of a number of government buildings the gunmen gave into the demands of the libyan authorities and left tripoli but refused to lay down arms reportedly natives of the city of misrata they were among the first to seek to remove the gaddafi regime in general the security situation in libya remains unstab

and let's not forget about libya is a little ad becomes a little bit little bit hard not a bit hard to fathom and when you look at the numbers when you look at the numbers compared to iran it is you know pretty astounding to me that the balance here so for you this is not to seem to let me just correct you on something and let your letter get you some sort of if you want it is very easy to put it that way ok does not know now go ahead with i done go ahead and let me let me give you some facts ok my friend former representative sensi a macand he spent a couple of weeks in libya while the bombing campaign was going on and she was sending me reports which i was forwarding out to my audience and so you know it's a different news agencies while she was there on one particular day and while we were in touch she was with representatives of the african union who were there to monitor what was going on now this is only in tripoli this particular day one of like eleven cities that are the major population centers in libya on that date from eleven thirty in the morning until eleven thirty in t

and number of the always see here founding member states actively aided bringing democracy to libya and three years down the line that produced and major security implications not only for north africa but for europe itself i mean the issue of migration and the issue of terrorism is that on their agenda do you think that european countries maybe european institutions including the oil see may need to reconsider that approach to spreading democracy and maybe give a bit more thought see you the security implications that that process could have spreading democracy it's not a noisy concept and there are certain countries you mention libya this is really very little to do that you have that. mansion and. libya requested to become a partner and it's still blocked powerfully in relation to the issues that you that you mentioned too from from dealing to the organization so we're really looking at libya as an external entity from but let's use it as a kind of an academic example and certainly this is something something or we do not doing is exporting democracy as you see what we do we work

they are not at liberty to talk with libya. there is political news coverage werwith what happened with the consular attack. her hands are somewhat tied blue sh.she would like to be doing m. there are some pr programs thate u.s. does have going. p>> they are able to train members of the libya security members eafnld givinmembers ande training and making them a nationanationalized army. that has not got off the ground yet and that is something that she would like to move forward with. and the political row row in washington about what happened with the benghazi attack. we have some viewer response. >> how safe are americans abroad. their safety depends on us national security at any given time. >> i think that is true to an effect. >> i have banf been reporting oe region since 2003 and in the yoorgs after that it was dangerous and there was a lot of anti-american sentiment in parts of iraq. at this point in libya people were positive towards the fact that the international community has come in to assist the natiol revolution. i

libya requested to become a partner and it's still blocked powerfully in relation to the issues that you that you mentioned too from from beginning to the organization so we're really looking at libya as an external entity from but let's use it as a kind of an academic example and certainly this is something a we do not doing is exporting democracy as you see what we do we work with governments and it's a long term. always effort to promote a democratic evolution of these situations i personally don't believe in overnight change i don't think we can create democracies overnight this is an effort that always requires a long term a. long term engagement of everybody but there is one principle that is important to us is that we have accepted and this is the ability of the societies in general stability in one country is a contribution to stability to the region in a way and this gives a right to the other countries also to have a say in processes going on in other countries this is what obviously is creating sometimes ups but it's a principle that is recognised in the o.c.a. well i wond

also participating in the internal political struggles that are going on in libya itself and then of course we still have the ongoing role of the united states and these other western states who are continually interfering in the internal affairs of libya and now the united states is talking about training some five to seven thousand libyans to be a part of this new national army and this of course could cause even more consternation inside the country because many of these militia groups even though they were against gadhafi they still do not support the u.s. or nato interfering in the internal affairs of libya at this stage or it always a lot of stories over the web site. for example this one wheels on fire at the russian city of. gonaives an unusual sight an empty blazing bus rolling down the street how does that happen details on the web site right now. while you're there you'll also find the story of how british officials systematically destroyed secret files that included information on the abuse and torture of locals and former colonies those details are also online. so i stil

what happened in libya as a hiccup because i think you know the flow of migrants from libya and increasingly from syria demonstrates that you know this is a ride that some countries in believe they have in. you know taking care of our affairs and other states certainly. backfired and produce very very negative consequences as the number of migrants in europe has significantly increased as a result of some of the european policies against some of the policies of the young member states and as a consequence we only suffer because of that should should there be some codified responsibility for your actions even such normal actions as spreading democracy in europe you're putting various things in the same basket if you look for instance the issue of the mag rounds you wouldn't relate this necessarily only to one factor i think we're looking at the larger phenomenon but we need to assess. things may have in the specifics may have made the issue worse in a way and fully fully accept that and as an italian more than is the secular general the sea. but but there is a trend the it is a larger trend a

and libya's militias are on the receiving end of public fury over the government's failure to bring security or stability to the oil rich country. this is out internationally it's just past midnight here in moscow and starting again this morning with the ongoing unrest in ukraine protesters here in kiev these latest pictures partially blocking the government building opposition m.p.'s were also disrupting parliament's work by blocking a rostrum there earlier on here has not been the only seen a protest thousands also showed up for a rival rally here in the east of ukraine in donetsk they're one of the industrial hubs in support of the government these crowds venting their frustration with the opposition for turning their capital as they see it into a battlefield well of course all this made the increasing interference from abroad and brings us up to speed. we stand with the vast majority of ukrainians who want to see this future for their country and we urge the ukrainian government to listen to the voices of its people who want to live in freedom and in opportunity and prosperity and the el

also participating in the internal political struggles that are going on in libya itself and then of course we still have the ongoing role of the united states and these other western states who are continually interfering in the internal affairs of libya and now the united states is talking about training some five to seven thousand libyans to be a part of this new national army and this of course could even more consternation inside the country because many of these militia groups even though they were against gadhafi they still do not support the u.s. or nato interfering in the internal affairs of libya at this stage and over on the website right now wheels on fire the russian city of siberia has witnessed an unusual sight and. rolling down the road for you online right now all the details as well on the website. you'll also find the story of how british officials systematically destroyed secret files that included information on the abuse and torture of locals in former colony details. so i still think a fully functioning gun is something you simply can't make at home or seems it

s are losing grip of security with an estimated seventeen hundred armed groups operating in libya and out of around four hundred armed stare pose just five percent are controlled by the government experts say the country is on the verge of disintegration with different groups buying for control of the oil industry a lot of the people in the east especially of the country are quite happy to sit and wait until they can set up their own government their own their own country if you like independent of tripoli so they can then restart exports and oil sales themselves because they don't think it's fair that they have to carry on being dependent on the central government if they do set up a legitimate way of selling oil and if the international community agrees to buy it you know we would actually lead to the breakdown of libya as we know it. with libya balanced on the verge of civil war it's those accused of supporting the country's former leader feel the most in secure people from the town or to work who are accused of aiding colonel gaddafi during a sea just scattered across the country

or nato interfering in the internal affairs of libya at this stage. for the web site for you right now wheels on fire check it out the russian city of all them skin siberia an unusual site and. bus raging on fire heading on down the road now drive where the emergency service is there right behind it the details that are dot com right now. while you're there you'll also find story of how british officials systematically destroyed secret files that included information on the abuse and torture of locals informa colony those details that are. you're watching the international from moscow i'm real received say thanks very much for joining us today you still think that a fully functioning gun is something you simply can't make at home but it seems it's all about to change as three d. printing makes enormous strides. visited a company that specializes in creating three d. guns some experts say it won't be long before you can do it yourself. rhett's shooting range in austin texas is normally packed with gun enthusiasm. today the difference is that these men

with libya balanced on the verge of civil war which those accused of supporting the country's former leader that feel the most in secure people from the town of tar word who are accused of aiding colonel gadhafi during a sea just scattered across the country and face constant threats from militias and they're not even safe in the camp where they are now forced to live as artie's paula slayer reports. this dirt track was once a building site teeming with foreign construction workers now it's home to forgotten victims of the revolution the people of to wear two years ago after the revolution rebel groups expelled them from their homes accusing them of supporting president gadhafi two month long siege of misrata to work there is now a ghost town the only living things straight animals and the odd militia men the population scattered across the country in telecom at a refugee camp run by the aid humanitarian organization is home to one thousand five hundred of them that's around three hundred families the to work in say they are constantly under threat the camp is not protected militias

and libya's militias are on the receiving end of public fieri over the government's failure to bring security and stability to the oil rich country. international my name is kevin and it's just past ten pm now our top story on the news wall behind me protesters here in kiev tonight partially blocking the government building opposition m.p.'s also been disrupting parliament's work by blocking the roster a bit earlier to have not the only scene of protests thousands of showed up for a rival rally of one of ukraine's industrial hubs donetsk here in the east in support this time of the government these crowds venting their frustration with the opposition for turning their capital into a battlefield as they see it all of this amid increasing interference from abroad and when it reports. we stand with the vast majority of the ukrainians who want to see this future for their country and we urge the ukrainian government to listen to the voices of its people who want to live in freedom and opportunity and prosperity and the elected representatives of the ukrainian people made their choice dec

smith was in libya living with his wife and young son. why he was killed is still unknown but he is now the fifth american to be murdered in benghazi in the last year or so after ambassador chris stephens and three others were killed there in september 2012. nic robertson is following the story and has the latest. >> reporter: ronnie smith was shot down from a passing car as he was out jogging. he never stood a chance. a chemistry teacher at an international school in libya's city of benghazi, he knew the dangers. tweeting this two months ago. libya islamists are threatening kidnappings. but smith wasn't afraid. the tweet continues, as if they can fit kidnapping into a two-hour workday that already includes a nap. losers. in this video made for his texas church as he leaves for libya with his wife 18 months ago, he explains why he can handle the dangers of libya. >> if there is any single person in the entire universe that you can take a chance on, it is god. >> reporter: back in texas, he was a daequanon at his church. posting his deep r

going forward what does this mean for our effort in libya. not being clear, which groups are our friend and which groups can we trust? >> this is the reality of a dangerous situation, whether it's about libya or south sudan or about the congo. we have limited influence in these situations. in a sense in libya you had every political party armed to the teeth. they were united for a while around the idea of getting rid of gadhafi. every tribe fighting for a piece of the post gadhafi pie. chose to stay and help libya move forward and certainly that was a decision with very significant far reaching consequence consequences. >> i want to bring the panel in, what struck me, very thorough research in "the new york times." went to 2014, hillary clinton, essentially an accusation "new york times" is intervening to help democrats politically. what is that about? republican not going to accept any conclusion that doesn't tar hillary clinton for 2014, i mean 2016. is this all about electoral politics and not the facts? >> a lot of it is. when we talked a

more than forty people were killed in libya on thursday in the blast as a military a gang had been trying to steal a new nation but all of them died in the explosion militias often attack on the bases in the country and government troops fighting with armed gangs is a part of everyday life there freelance journalist karim analogy reports now from tripoli for thirty. years although there are no more to you people were killed and more than fifty wounded in a recent clash between islamic militant group ansar al sharia and the military says a report by the interior ministry tripoli is witnessing security problems two over forty people were killed and more than two hundred injured at a rally last week in tripoli as protesters clashed with the militias to control of a number of government buildings the gunmen gave into the demands of the libyan authorities and left tripoli but refused to lay down arms reportedly natives of the city of misrata they were among the first to seek to remove the gaddafi regime in general the security situation in libya remains unstable believe me as deputy intelligen

gunmen shot and killed smith right in the streets of benghazi, libya. at this point it's not known who did it or why smith may have been targeted. benghazi is, of course, the city where terrorists attacked u.s. diplomatic posts on september 11th of last year, killing our ambassador, chris stevens, and three other americans. no one has been arrested for that attack. in fact, the libyan government has barred the fbi from entering the country to make arrests. the government there has struggled enormously since the four decade reign of gadhafi came to a bloody end. armed militants and easy access to weapons make it an extremely dangerous place. i want to bring in nic robertson, our expert on libya and paul crookshank. thanks so much for being here. nic, what do we know about this shooting? >> reporter: we know that he was running on the street, that the gunmen pulled up in a car next to him, they shot him as he was running along. there are some indications that perhaps they sort of moved up next to him, moved back, moved up and shot him. he was shot in cold

and libya's strong men was called an inavailable san mark. we've the resolve and ability to track down no matter how long it takes for terrorist acts against america. >> fit water said action is being considered. >> we don't rule out any options. we're considering the international responses. >> reporter: some pan am victims were so successful that many are now talking to be a would have. >> libya,iran are being rejected. >> i think the shooting. only has to stop. >>> in 1996, ktvu's john fowler looked at the en sreu hrar reus brought back over to locker 2 -pl another-'reufrpblg raoeufrpblgs were on board. pan am 103 flight recorders revealed nothing but a brief long song be with the explode -t in the forward cargo hold. destroyed the tail a high speed rise. the plane sledded apart but there was no may skwroár bier aim when lynn yap tourists pout a gun: by chance it went forward you had on. counting the times the plane cashed through a set the third time leaving london triggered the explosion. >> we must never ever reu lax our efforts until

or nato interfering in the intro affairs of libya at this stage. our website for you wells on fire the russian city of all is going to siberia has witnessed an unusual sight an empty blazing bonser rolling down the road had a line from all footage and all the details there. and also there you'll find a story of how british officials systematically destroyed secret files that included information on the abuse and torture of locals in former colony. so think a fully functioning gun is something you simply can't make at home while it seems it's all about to change as three d. printing makes enormous strides in a fortnight visited a company that specializes in creating three d. guns but some experts say it won't be long before you can do it yourself. red's shooting range in austin texas is normally packed with gun enthusiasm. today the difference is that these men are firing rounds with a do it yourself firearm the world's first three d. printed metal gun we wanted to showcase the abilities of what direct metal can do eric much later is a project coord

an american is gunned down in benghazi, libya. was it terrorism, bob orr is covering. snow, ice and bitter cold stretch across half the nation. manual bojorquez on what it is hitting and where it is going. and the special bond between two presidents. we'll talk to bill clinton about his friend nelson mandela. >> we could have had the politics of resentment. he chose the politics of inclusion. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. he changed the world. you can't say that about many people. but you can say that about nelson mandela. the man who lead south africa's peaceful transition out of apartheid and became the country's first black president. he died today at the age of 95. mandela had been battling a lung infection for many months. right after its official announcement tonight mourners began gathering at mandela's home in johannesburg to sing his praises. we have extensive coverage of nelson mandela's life and legacy. first we'll go to deborah in johannesburg tonight, deborah, how has this unfolded fo

conditions in detention camps were bad in the time of colonel gadaffi, but now libya is lawless-- no one's accountable. the eritrean women were entering a new hell. >> ( translated ): the prison wasn't good. they separated the men and women. it wasn't good. the guards would come drunk. at night, they would take the women to sleep with them. and then, another night, another would come. it happened to all of us. it wasn't good. >> reporter: the camp director told us there was no rape in garabuli, but aster says they were raped for 11 weeks until a friend paid a bribe for their release. their suffering reached its depths in the camp, but it started months before they took to the seas. as they crossed the desert in the back of a pickup, two men fell sick. the driver left them to die. >> ( translated ): what could we do? we just carried on. we cried because the driver said, "either you get back in the vehicle, or i leave you here, too." we cried, but we had no choice. >> reporter: tracks across the sahara, evidence of smugglers bringing cigarettes, drugs and people. but the journey to eur

it was clear they were from libya. ziad hashem says after his release from prison he was placed under house arrest, and his family suffered from the treatment by british police. >> translation: they could search when they wanted and they chose to some at night, knocking ard on the door. >> ziad hashem is port of another lawsuit against the british government. something he is hoping to reveal was the flow of information between the libyan intelligence agencies. the british government says it's committed to investigating allegations of mistreatment that it stands against torture and never asked any other country to carry it out. >> to watch more of our investigation watch "people in power", as we examine the relationship between u.k. and the secret service, at 2230 gmt. there's plenty of material online. there's exclusive interview with the president. the address on the screen. aljazeera.com, click on shows, people and power. >> now, ukraine's opposition leaders are accusing viktor yanukovych of selling out after signing

did was they created this bogeyman so the bogeyman in uganda is joseph coney the boogie man and in libya was of course marco duffy the bogeymen bogeyman and in eastern congo is any one of these guys thomas lubanga for example who have been brought to the international criminal court and when we talk about white supremacy only seven people have been brought forward on charges indictments at the international criminal court and they're all black men one of them being a black man and an arab can we conclude from this that white people never commit any kind of truck crimes in fact what we can do is create a long list of what i call the untouchable white men and mostly white men but some white women behind the atrocities committed in central africa or behind the atrocities in afghanistan or you just set them all right on the head and you won't see western you just won't see western leaders being held accountable for their crimes and you guys had it right on the had there you mentioned libya i want to move on really quickly it's now been two years since nato intervention in the country and you

. >>> for most of my life, libya was a word with bad associations. libya meant gadhafi. libya meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital. >> they fought like hell. >> the rebels are about to force gadhafi's complete departure.

tony the boogie man and in libya was of course mark bogeymen a bogeyman and in eastern congo is any one of these guys thomas lubanga for example who have been brought to the international criminal court and when we talk about white supremacy only seven people have been brought forward on charges indictments at the international criminal court and they're all black men one of them being a black man and an arab can we conclude from this that white people never commit any kind of truck crimes in fact what we can do is create a long list of what i call the untouchable white men and mostly white men but some white women behind the atrocities committed in central africa or behind the atrocities in afghanistan or you just set them all right on the head and you won't see a roster and you just won't see western leaders being held accountable for their crimes and you guys had it right on the had there you mentioned libya i want to move on really quickly it's now been two years since nato intervention in the country and you were one of the last western journalist to hold an audience with them are

to you know call for more updates on the way from syria libya and beyond often short break. well the. science technology innovation is developed from around russia we. covered. the ukraine deeply divided kid sovereign decision to walk away from an association agreement with brussels has resulted in an explosion of street protests and violence some western pundits have even called for the overthrow of ukraine's current political order it would seem those who alternately watch the orange revolution are bent on giving it a second try. dramas the. stories others refuse to. face is changing the world. so picture. from around the globe. to me. i'll be watching on t.v. in syria a group of kidnapped christian nuns have reportedly been relocated by the mist rebel captors the women were abducted when opposition fighters stormed the ton of it's mostly populated by christians who was seen by the rebels as backers of the syrian government damascus has appealed for international efforts to free the captives now mother agnes is a nun from syria she's been in contact with the rebel official

libya's militias are on the receiving end of public fearing now over the government's failure to bring security all stability to their oil rich country. this is r.t. broadcasting live from moscow just past nine pm there now my name is kevin first the protesters here in kiev this is the latest scene we've got tonight now partially blocking the government building opposition m.p.'s have also been disrupting parliament's work by blocking the rostrum there a little bit earlier on and it's not just in kiev where you've seen protests thousands of also being showing up for a rival rally in one of ukraine's industrial hubs the scene here from donetsk in the east of ukraine this time though in support of the government these crowds preventing their frustration with the opposition for what they say turning their capital into a battlefield all this amid increasing interference from abroad as ridiculous reports. we stand with the vast majority of the ukrainians who want to see this future for their country and we urge the ukrainian government to listen to the voices of its people who want to live

guns deadly street fighting old part of a daily routine in libya just a couple of minutes we look at how the troubled countries fairing two years off of the ousting and killing of. one the crisis leaves us traces everywhere. empty close rooms become the norm. children pay for the mistakes of adults. by working in a tobacco field or in the cafes. they are the ones who come back home blasts. his games are just in their memories. eleven fifteen on sunday morning here in moscow it's r.t. international the tension between edinburgh and london rose or not this week as the scottish government issued a blueprint for independence ahead of next of ten because referendum we would also call a halt to damaging policies that are pushing so many people into poverty. page document outlines plans to cut corporation tax extend free childcare and raise the minimum wage london strongly opposes the idea of separation clashing with ember on issues ranging from currency oil reserves and the e.u. membership. takes up the story. should scotland be an independent country it's a six word question that requires

to succeed where others failed libya free. from its present the world long to see a new princess diana. but she. gave up her presidential as well as her country. so why do we want to its brightest. something happening country once right like europe. is front. and our guest today sicily at yass former first lady of france isn't your new book is called. every day the desire for truth and the autobiography now the most remarkable it visited in your lives as first lady as you've said it many times was the role you played in liberating a number of bulgarian nurses and a palestinian doctor who'd been jailed in libya when warmer khadafi was still in charge but what was it like i know you get that question a lot but like i still want to hear from you once again. of course it's a very interesting i mean part of my life if not the most important. part of my life because i mean just to say i tried i release six person it's important in and i very mean those nurses and this doctor was condemned to this as you might know and there were jai

>> that is where ronnie and i and our son had all our memories, in libya. we didn't get to say going to the family we had there. for multiple reason, for closure because it seems unreal he's gone. and i would love to see the families there, just be able to love them and see them again. >> some people will wonder were you mistaken or naive to feel that you could be safe in an environment like that? >> even before we left, they said it's not going to be safe there, something is going to happen. we knew there was risk, but we knew that god had called us to be there to be a blessing to the people to want to show them peace and love, the peace and love that god has shown us so we knew that it was a risky place. >> well, we thank you for sharing your story with us. >> thank you. >> thanks very much for being here. >> thank you. >> and we'll have more of our program after this break. education apartheid, that's the facts... >> talk to al jazeera with m. night shayamalan sunday at 7et / 4pt on al jazeera america >> and finally from us tonight, we like to think of o