many try to follow their politics along secular lines. but as those faded, people are wealthier but many think of india as a hindu country and they want that hindu country to be a great country. so you see a melding of their aspiration. right now we may see in india perhaps extreme hindu politician become their prime minister in the elections in may. >> it's interesting that you bring that up because if you think back to the 1950s and those very famous photos taken at their initial meetings, you mentioned naru and sacarno and tito from yugoslavia, all those countries descended in religious chaos, is that in part because those promises failed? if sucarno had delivered and made indonesia a middle class country maybe you wouldn't have boiling conflict there. if naru had succeeded maybe that hindu show in this matter that you mentioned. >> a lot of data shows that the hindu national movement has a disproportionate of its support among educated middle class indians. the people who are enjoying the fruits of prosperity that naru promised ironic

in afghanistan you had a secular marxist government that was being destabilized by people who lived in the country who own the land you know in the in the rural parts the one land who were looking at having their property handed over to the peasants and you had a secular state in the cities you know because it's a marxist state where the religious types who were not the center of political gravity or of cultural gravity there were being excited by the cia they created the mujahideen groups that were there to firstly stabilize it forced the u.s.s.r. against its wishes by the way they were invited in by the government because they were being the governor was being taken down by these groups but they wanted to punish this was the words of the n s a director at the time as big brzezinski they wanted to punish the u.s.s.r. for vietnam and make them bleed and that's what happened in these groups that's the genesis of these groups and that policy is a policy that's been used throughout the region and elsewhere by the united states consciously or not you know i mean what you know i mean i'm go

is unlikely somebody coming up in the system educated mostly liberal mostly secular the label will go off to have a world view any different from the last 20 or 25 years that they had been indoctrinated. education and should play a role but we put our kids in public school systems our journalist in particular and up, read to institutions and then it will change that pattern. >> i emesis a journalist with watchdog. certainly when it comes to world views you talk about fox news forces cnn. >> fox news is not christian with its orientation. and the christian and broadcast network what it is doing am not terribly familiar with it, i think it is a step in the right direction perhaps but it is not nearly enough to combat the overwhelmingly secular and liberal world view we see on virtually every other news networks that is out there. those resources combined with only about to raise small fraction of the news gathering capabilities you would find it like that nbc. without making specific judgments i would say whatever they're doing that is good is inadequate. >> westborough baptist church y

now i'm, i'm secular person but i'm, on the other hand i'm not an orthodox hater. iy see it as amongst some of my friend and pierce who -- peers have some sort of complex with jewish history and background. my grandfather was such, his religion was so beautiful and romantic and humane and moral thatco all that i got from of judaism is beautiful and i have no resentment toward anyone. i try not to have resentments generally. whats troubles me israeli politics works in this bipolar way. we either surrender to the pro-orthodox or we hate them or both. i thinkt we should approach, develop a different approach. basically the challenge is very simple. as the ultra-orthodox minority is growing. on one hand we have to open our hearts hearts and minds to accept them as individual. they should be equal. they should have full rights. we should recognize their special need as community, as minority within israel but there are two things we should not allow in any way. we not allow them to impose their values on our state and society. we want a progressive, moral, liberal, demo

the revolutions and not talking about secularism and democracy and talking about dignity and freedom and social justice and jobs. democracy, secularism and other things that come in the wake of a transition would be shaped by the people of those countries and these are not secular societies and these are deeply religious societies and trying to create governments that are secular in tunis for instance to a certain extent in egypt trying to separate the religious values of society from the instruments of governance and this is a very impressive process as people start undertaking it. if you look closely as what the tunisians and egyptians and the libyans to an ex tents are working very diligently for the first time ever in the 9,000 year history of civilization, in the arab world and for the first time they are writing their constitutions and trying to create government systems that reflect their values. so this is i think we have to be very careful about not looking at this as a democratic transition necessarily in the first instance, but democracy, secularism and civic societies, al

most journalists are being trained in the liberal and secular academies of this country. and so that is likely going to be what they produce. and we have a lot of the statistics in the press. but gallup has been doing this since the 1960s and that, while it has trailed off a little bit in recent years, it has stayed around 40%. have you attended a religious service, they asked, in the last seven days, which is a very specific behavioral questions very close to 40% of americans answered yes to that question. when journalists are asked the same question and surveys have been done on this topic. the numbers are usually less than 10% and you can argue is that right or wrong or good or bad. and it is way different than the religious orientation and behaviors of journalists to look very different from the mainstream. and it becomes a virtuous cycle or, you know, a downward spiral depending upon your orientation. and all of your friends are liberal, if all of your friends are secular in this and you get positive reinforcement from now, that will create a continuing cycle and it

are back the financialization of economic the financialization of the economy income inequality and secular stagnation and yes keynes he's back to that name you're going to hear a lot lately here to talk about all of this and much much more is economist thomas poly author of the book from financial crisis to stagnation welcome to the show dr polly such a pleasure to have you here and great to have a resource like you on the show to first and foremost you know you often describe. you often hear it described as post post keynesian economics opposed to keynesian economics. and laypersons terms can you tell me the difference between post keynesian and keynesian right well we think it is keynesian at the coal in that it is is that the amount of economic activity we have depends on the amount of demand in the economy. so you're hearing that all the time people are looking to the consumer consumption spending business to invest house houses being built that's the demand side of the economy if we don't get that out we don't get employment but the post piece is a twofold one is provisional economics

most journalists are being trained in the liberal, secular academies of this country. so that's likely going to be what they produce. i should go back, and we have a lot of these statistics in "prodigal press," but gallup has been doing a survey since the 1940s about church attendance in america. and that attendance, while it moves up and down and has trailed off in recent years, has stayed around 40 president. when gallup asks the question have you attended a religious service in the last seven days, close to 40% of americans answer yes to that question. when journalists are asked the same question, a variety of surveys have been done on this topic, the number is usually less than 10%. so, you know, you can argue is that right, is that wrong, is it good or bad, i would just simply argue it's different. it is way different than the religious orientation, the religious -- the beliefs and behaviors of journalists just looks really different from the mainstream. and i think that in some ways it becomes a, you know, either a virtuous cycle or a, you know, a downward spiral

. >> one of the big problems is a secular issue. if you look at the growth

and i'm not way, that is a secular expert patient that okay, people have the religious and what they do in their homes. that's fine. but it should not interfere with public life or should not threaten public life. >> maybe we will skip to the chapter, which was a chapter in which you explored the idea of what makes a cold and not fiercely as you know in the book they turned out to have sort of antisocial behaviors and gunrunning and stuff like that. i thought of that chapter and in the book you were directly sort of saying, questioning the characterization of what makes a cult or ambivalent about it. he says the labor of colt bismarck to apply than it does about those it describes. maybe we talk more about what you found in what i read -- adabas ambivalence is the right word. as a religious reporter i write more about contemporary stuff. this is a very a live conversation. i was thinking about the way nonreligious people talk about hearing god, through meditation or whatever. we have in your language about that. i wanted to see if you can talk about the way this relates maybe today.

can they maintain the framework, or is there this headwind, secular headwind that is changing the company forever? so i think the s&p 500 behind me is being built up right now with the expectation that is technology is going to do well. not nearly as well as big banks. david: larry i have to break in. we have earnings coming out on several companies including ibm. jo ling kent, those numbers are in. how do they look? >> dave, we have pretty good

last year it was the muslim brotherhood, and this year years the secular groups. it will be interesting to see if this constitution is going to be legitimate over the long run. >> that's interesting. you believe this is a process that is benefiting the secular liberal groups s that how you see this? >> i think that the majority of individuals who were in the community of 50 were not really--with the exception who made the deal with the military--were not what you would call political islamic, and certainly were not muslim brotherhood. the problem is that the muslim brotherhood in these political groups compose best case scenario 20%, maybe 25% of the population. that is a significant amount of people that have been excluded from the process. in addition you've seen political opposite progression, secular youth groups, the military trials of civilians, and the starters of the januar january 25th revolution. that is not the ideal climate to be having such a vote. >> i've talked to secularists from egypt who look at this as the military consolidating power pure and s

that big broad secular theme is what is driving netflix. they added more subs in '13 than they did '12 and to add more subs internationally and international in '14 and '13. this is far surpassing hbo. it's a secular play. it's not an economic play. they're showing out the margins. margins keep rising 4 to 500 bys a year. it shees as they grow the subbase they have the cash with which to cover those content costses. the subbase doesn't grow, this company is in trouble but they've got that secular tail wind going for them and i think it will continue to go for some time. >> mike? >> well, mark's completely right. they're going to continue to grow subs. the economy is a part i didn't think about. we awe knew about connected devices. mark, you're right. i think though that people are overlooking that this off balance sheet liability keeps growing by a lot. that cash flow trails net income by a lot. literally by, you know, by something over a dollar a share this past year. they would have made 75 cents had they been running their expense on a c

both to the religious opposition that is there in the arab world and to the secular, both regimes and forces who are also behaving in an exclusionist manner, and not really putting in place institutions that would assure a democratic and plurallistic culture. >> warner: do you think there's anything in the sort of arab culture or cultural dna of this region that makes whoever gets in power embrace a kind of zero sum gain, exclusive form of governing. >> absolutely not. what we shall witnessing is a direct result of, you know, an era in the arab world where democracy was not practiced foreign couraged. an educational system which basically taught people just to blindly follow leaders without critical thinking, without asking questions. so obviously when this is the start, both the religious and secular forces are behaving in nondemocratic ways it is so far a winner take all strategy. as i say always, a zero sum game has meant that the sum is zero so far. until both forces realize that this is not a matter between secular and religious elements, until that becomes a matter for pluralism

the largely secular that the muslim brotherhood was pushing its resolution that it proposed. the government intensified in the wake of executive decisions by mohammed morsi many critics say were meant to cement the power of his organization at the ex-opinions otheexpense of the . dissolving the government and arresting mohamed morsi and most of his organization's leaders insisting the action was taken in consultation with moderate political forces. >> the will of the egyptian people alone is what coverages us. we respect it with fairness, honor. >> sentiments echoed by the civilian president the military put in power. >> it includes all egyptians regardless of their back grown. we have invited all institutions to achieve peace. >> the attempts were forcebly crushed. a banned organization yet again and highlighting this extraordinary sequence of even events. the interim government remains in a secure environment and what contends undemocratic actions ranging on a ban of demonstrations to journalists. backed by egyptian citizens, a vote that the military-backed interim governme

it is very secular. i was talking to people about who they would go for. i came across one gentlemen. he said, i'm going to vote for this candidate to win. it is not because i like him. it is because i do not like an unstable turkey. i remember turkey in the 1970s and the 1980s. we cannot go back to that. what we saw in his reaction and his reaction again when all of these corruption charges came up against him is that he is willing to unstablize the economy of turkey. he has lobbed allegations. people read into that. whether he is talking about -- that is unsettling to investors who have come into turkey pricey because they believe that erdogan has lost the stability. >> there is also thislationship the president and the prime minister was said to have a good relationship. and yet now you're the prime minister blaming outside forces for some of the turmoil in turkey. >> that is exactly what is happening. outside forces blame the united states. it is a transactional relationship in his mind. nonetheless, america and turkey have a lot of common interest. we

>> it really complicates things for the secular opposition for obvious reasons. governments are extremely wary of arming them, of engaging with them, because there is so little being able toot get the extremist groups, al qaeda linked groups -- not empowering and arming them. the presence of al qaeda in syria has prolonged this conflict and competent it it. -- and complicated it. >> it looks as though the real winners in the conflict at the moment are al qaeda, but also president bashar al-assad, who has been saying all along that he is fighting terrorists. >> this is the great fear, that assad will be able to portray the al qaeda presence as being the entirety of the opposition and try to solicit western support by saying, we are fighting the same people in syria as you are in afghanistan, pakistan. this would be a gross oversimplification. there is an al qaeda presence, but it is by no means the only presence. while al qaeda has made gains from this war, i think we need to be very careful not to oversimplify and not allow the assad narrative to be the dominant

today we are seeing the secular elements behave in exactly the same exclusion is manner that they accuse the islamists of doing. the violence is concerning, but i think the solution to this violence must be a political process that includes all elements of society. >> but does the arab world have time for that as we watch what is happening in syria and how it is spilling into other countries? >> there are no shortcuts to democracy. i believe strongly that if the arab world is to transition to pluralist societies, it must put in place constitutional foundations for such a pluralist society. no one should expect that to occur in a short three years. it has not happened anywhere else in the world. it shouldn't happen here. but i argue in my book that the second arab awakening cannot be .ust a movement against it must be a movement for pluralism, a movement that is going to take decades. >> what should the rest of the world do? what support could the u.s., for instance, give to this process? >> the international community picking support by not winners and losers and by doing no harm. but es

turkey used to be a secular growth oriented state but now a little more backwards state that embraces religion over growth. meanwhile, argentina is going the way of venezuela. what's amazing is their currency's held up at all going into the transitions because they've been going on for months -- not that they just created last week. of course, now we have to watch the real because brazil has a lot more people than argentina. now we have a world where most money managers are out of position at a moment when consumer spending may be stalled, rates are dropping quickly, and the thesis that worked coming into the year have been rocked. making things worse is the fact before the declines of the last three days, we haven't had a big pullback in ages which produced too much euphoria. hence why people don't know where to turn. they're just fleeing en masse out of fear. there's a pattern to all of these selloffs. the initial shock wave, everything gets crushed, take your cue from the bonds. right now, saying go back into the bond market equivalent recession stocks that have gotten out of favor

importantly in 2014 the more catalysts are there to see if detroit sees a rebound after 30 years of secular deline. >> the class half full look stays can't get worse. >> they are stabilizing. >> when i look at the combination of job and income growth, compared to the u.s., 12 to 13 quarters, we have been growing faster. our debt is rated ccc minus by standard & poor's, the same rating from moody's is stuck at a depressed level. we have a long way to go. the catalysts are there for improvement. this is a tip-off to what can happen. >> there's one trick. you say metropolitan detroit. if you take the city out some areas are doing well, and there is a housing bubble in some. the city has issues. there are people trying hard to make the city work. what will it take to make downtown detroit not look the way it does with entirely empty buildings, where windows have been removed. >> anecdotally demand for downtown living is outstripping supply. seeds are in place. importantly, no suburban area can grow forever without a vital urban downtown core and detroit is demonstrating that. we went through 30

time, but importantly in 2014 there is more catalysts to see detroit begin a rebound after 30 years of secular decline. >> give me the glass half full look because the glass half empty look says that things can't get better. >> when i look at job and income growth compared to the u.s. for now, 12 to 13 straight quarters we've been growing faster than the u.s. has. that's one example. we still have our problems. our debt is rated a triple c minus from standard & poor's. we have a long way to go, but the catalysts are there for an improvement, and this week is absolutely a tip off to what can happen. >> there is one trick here, you said metropolitan detroit. when you take the city out some of the surrounding areas are doing quite well, and some might argue there is a housing bubble going on in some of the detroit suburbs which are some of the nicest suburbs in the country. >> there are. >> there are many who are trying to make this city work. what is it going to take to make downtown detroit not look the way it does with entirely empty buildings where the windows even have been removed. >> anecd

they were all these people wanted was a secular. secular priesthood were set aside. they were german and world war war i. he writes a series of articles from the alana tech calling for a german victory and was never published on the everlasting which calls for the german conquest. it existed in that connection but when you go to talk to the library and they will not bring it forward to you know. i will come back to this an eminent. let me turn to the here the profession has been imposed and there is a good deal of repression. world war i is. in 1917 on entering the war in the american left including people like max or part of the pacifist groups that visited washington were enamored and you will see this and we will get to that. they see what role wilson as one of them and it sounds like one of them. he is opposed to many of the same grounds. the imperialism, triumphed, he studied socialism and he's not a socialist but he studied socialism and he sees an american progress of islam. those years him between 1920 were traumatic. in 1916 many of them embraced willson as

it is very secular. at theking to people polling stations about who they were going to vote for, i came across one gentleman who said to me, i am going to vote for erdogan. not because i like erdogan. because i don't like an unstable turkey. i remember turkey in the 1970's and 1980's. he said, we cannot go back to that again. brings stability. what we saw in his reaction to when all these corruption charges came up against him, he is willing to unstablize the economy of turkey. he -- >> in the interest of power. >> in the interest of power, he of lobbed all sorts accusations again something called the interest rate lobby. people have read into that, whether that means that he is talking about the jews or the banks or whatever he is talking about. that is very unsettling to investors who have commented turkey precisely because they believe that erdogan has brought stability into the country. >> there is also this relationship, ambassador, with america. the president and the prime minister were said to hav

al qaeda leaders have struck tactic is to rival secular leaders -- struck back against rival secular leaders. >> it's got some 500 people have been killed this week alone. across the north and east of the country, a jihadist group linked to al qaeda has been battling rival groups. in aleppo, both sides are accused of massacres. this town has been wrested from the jihadist after nine months in their hands. the islamic front has taken control here of the courts and of various checkpoints, he says. for international aid organizations, the conflict present in norman's challenges. the head of the international committee of the red cross is visiting the syrian capital. he says they want to help refugees, detainees, and those stuck in the fighting. >> the purpose of the visit is to get a first-hand impression of the reality of the conflict, so to go to the field and get a sense of what is going on in the field, and then to meet with officials here in damascus to discuss issues related to access , particularly access to besieged areas, and to revisit the possibility of the icrc visiting deta

mind is if it's a religious family it's a mother and five in between four to six kids and if it's a secular family to my then five then we too can send a topic however saying that even though i think it is very traditional stuff. we do see a change in the appendices very families that. perhaps twenty years ago i moved home we did not see and i think that what's interesting is that which did not only in the secular world but also in the religious world. and i think the two trends that we near the scene the more common and what is on the land and. we can see more of families and jason ray stevenson won the other one. israel the single women and i can personally single women and a single men. i do for many reasons i e jinnah i'm not getting maddie and women there are less willing to compromise like they used to be the day also find different than hughes said to have a family and when i say family i mean my dinner and children usually. and sometimes the five innings in the content sometimes the five is a sperm donors for some ice tea until university believes that if we compare the israeli with

if so, how do secular individuals make their voices heard? >> i was warped that -- warned that there would be great questions. [laughter] those are all really great questions. the first question about the lack of voices. i would say transnationally there really is no lack of voices. those voices do not get the microphone. and that was really part of what my work was about, trying to meet so many of these people who may be working in languages other than english, whose work is not making it here. somebody asks me the other day what can we do to help. one of the key things is to get some of these people's work in err due, in arabic transferred and read here and heard here. that is so very important. and it is hard sometimes to make yourself heard even when you write in english. so at the time of the tenth an verse roy of -- anniversary of september 11th, 2001, an event i felt very, very strongly about -- i lived in the new york area for ten years after 9/11 -- i wrote a piece called "why i hate al-qaeda" which is, basically, a person of secular

not only in the secular world but also and that the religious world and i think the two trends that we near the scene a more prominent when is the land and. we can see more of families and jason reed stevenson won the other one israel the single women. i can personally single women than a single men. i do for many reasons i e jinnah i'm not getting many women there are less willing to compromise like they used to be the day also find different than hughes said to have a family and when i say family i mean my dinner and children usually. and sometimes the five innings in the chair and sometimes the five days to spend on others. for some ice tea until university believes that if we compare the israeli with most western societies. the israelis will images of a traditional conservative people in my infirmities that the flag pin this means that the families and sent on a new way. almost everyone gets married so my eyes is there a needle stuck in the wholesale rates up quite well compared to other countries and found the most significant time characteristic is that tom flynn has had very hig

secular liberal point of view in a polluted an educated guess. but here i think the key thing is that you have any for example the labor movement in tunisia that was national in scope that was independent of the government. it was very disciplined. and was able to play a role in an organized way. you have a political opposition. that was. able to mobilize itself around. in other parties that were rifles to the islamic party so in egypt in the first election because the secularists than the liberals and the non fundamentalists were so disorganized and fragmented the muslim brotherhood and the solid fees. one seventy five percent and finally got the power you can envelop they ran roughshod over all we can do it ourselves we don't need to compromise in tunisia the islamic equivalent of the muslim brotherhood been on the party only won forty percent and they knew that they had no choice but to combine again at the right just go about their assured that the teaching is looking over eighty chipped in seeing what's going on and he said that's not gonna

i found that that day i islamist circles is that the ousted president most see as well as some secular activists that can be tickled me up saying that they want people to take to the streets in protest at the minute she backed government. so what we're anticipating is that if these two sides come into contact and maybe some kind of classes some kind of finance as we can see me in the past so old to get at a very tense day is expected tomorrow and these bomb blasts here in cairo at it this morning had done nothing to do as a base fee is cast and thank you for that update catherine stapling there in cairo. now face to face talks between syria is warring factions will not take place this friday. the opposition says it refuses to sit down and his regime of representatives until endorses the genie about one that communicates all that called for tenders its role in governing body to be established. expectations for the geneva to peace conference are low with neither side showing signs of budging will the un mediator last job but he will now meet with a regime that delegates first this friday

the issue is that increasingly the secular liberal position in each of the people who were. involved in the two thousand and eleven revolution joining up with the muslim brotherhood said it is. different to the old me and the current government not just from the islamist camp but increasingly from the secular liberal him as well who. has to be time back and we're going. to look like more. unfortunately with no end in sight. lined up as ever in a website and i doubt they're the. ones to tell it's installed force will last twenty four hours or so we've got eyewitness account of some pictures falling one of the most severe storms to hit. this also to an icy irony that ship sent to rescue the stranded vessel and talk to frozen water there's no self fall into the same trap its. stadiums hotels recreation zones are all ready to welcome fans and athletes to the southern russian city of sochi for the winter olympics but if there's one thing missing of course none of the rest is going to matter we're talking snow but the party has no reason to be worried as we've been finding out. pe

or is it because of secular issues. and buying things on amazon or perhaps just perhaps it is the weird weather patterns that some companies reported and shorter holiday season because of early hanukkah and don't forget a thanksgiving too close to christmas. i talked to enough retailers to know there's been a considerable decline in mall traffic. that is for real. i don't think people suddenly stopped shopping, though. i think they may have altered the behavior of buying online, where they've come to expect the cheapest prices. you know what, that's smart but it's also secular. for example, it's no coincidence that the best performing retailer this holiday season was macy's, which has an omnichannel internet strategy along with cheapest branded products because it has such clout with brands and can drive the best bargains with those companies. the other top two, costco, it's the new frugality people, just like the generation that lived through the great depression, those who lived through the great recession changed the

the issue is that increasingly the secular liberal position in each of the people who were. involved in the two thousand and eleven revolution joining up with the muslim brotherhood said it is. different to the old me in the current government not just from the islamist camp but increasingly from the secular liberal as well who. has to be time back and we are going. to look like more. unfortunately with no end in sight. of our website the u.k. has been passive for months to todd storm force winds the last twenty four hours or so. with this account sound picture of probably one of the most severe storms to hit the island of nias also that i see irony is a ship sent to rescue that stranded vessel in the antarctic frozen waters this fall into the trap. stadiums hotels recreation zones are all ready to welcome fans and athletes to the southern russian city of sochi for the winter olympics but if there's one thing missing none of the rest is going to matter of course that snow however there's no reason to be worried as we found out. that's the biggest challenge facing so she's or

no --s absolutely sometimes they're called secular jews, the non-jewish jews, there's nothing jewish about them except that action which was not -- which was involuntary. this largeou expect section of jews who are not jews to think like a jew about jewish things? then, you have your three groups of jews who are in any way jewish at all. jews,ve reformed conservative jews, and orthodox jews. the reformed jew has done one thing, in order to be a reformed done one thing jewish by choice your entire life. do you know what it is? bar mitzvah is still too young. circumcision? [laughter] would you make that choice? [laughter] maybe you have. by the way, i think it's fair to let you know that my jewish a plopping jew. it consisted of three days. papal age of eight days, i had barely met a week ago took to my most sensitive part. they were so pleased with what they had done they threw themselves a small party. [laughter] later, iand 357 days said words of a language i did not understand. they told me i was a man. they were so happy they had survived my childhood, they threw themselves a part

way saudi society has been organized it's a distorted society and it fears revolutions either from a secular opposition or more importantly from an islamic opposition and so in that sense the saudi government is always pursuing a foreign policy and a domestic policy based on sort of existential fear that the regimes days although it seemed to nip it in a while ago could in fact be numbered and it's a good point mark the days are numbered for the house of saud are they a good bet for washington thirty years ago i understand i agree with brian i mean unfortunately that was the reality there but a lot of lot of things have changed in the last thirty years a lot of things have changed the last two years i would argue that the arab world when the most unstable areas of the world saudi arabia is one of the most stable and look at almost any other arab country name it libya market is it is stable and . stable because of tyranny is that it stability. well actually there's less tyranny in saudi arabia than other countries look i'm not saying that saudi arabia some free and open place their treatment

afghanistan like situation the way they did in afghanistan the way they did maybe in libya all the secular leaders that are falling as bad as some of them as they are they're all the crimes have been a bulk work against extremism and somebody you could deal with on a certain level and they also protected secular rights of women and among religious minorities but the united states has consistently gone against these groups and why because did most of the saudis want these guys out for their own regional ambitions and they're also worried about iran which is another religious backing of really religious extremists on the other side of this sectarian divide so this is the situation we've got now absolutely impossible for the united states to to continually say that assad has to go when i was the guest in march and just pointed out they're dealing with him now invited to this conference they're eliminating the chemical weapons now you've got to deal with the reality on the ground as you point out peter you the first thing should be to end this conflict and the fighting and the killing and then

that's a secular sea change. now, i counter you can't order a triple venti cappuccino with skim wet online and expect to get a hot one. no matter, they took s bucks to the woodshed, too. it closed at $75.12. only macy's, which can bargain with the biggest suppliers to get the lowest prices, it produced a stronger number last week. it does have a terrific internet strategy. how bad was it out there? get this, wendy's, a stock i've been behind a long time, actually came out and preannounced sharply better than expected earnings. but you know what, there was zero pin action. the good news only applied to wendy's, up 6.4% today as every other retail restaurant chain i follow got hit. now the question is, can you consider these declines as part of a healthy reset of expectations for retail? that would be welcome news. or are these miserable reports simply part and parcel with the soggy jobs numbers we got on friday? or could this be the beginning of the end of shopping as we know it, as we're all addicted to amazon an