we have a precedent in san francisco the park that was built with blaefrndz and the blaefrnz are there and people are sitting interest during the day there was a lot of blaefrnz at one time they might have been filed but the sun exposure and a green great place without the westerly widen. i'm comment about the frees and hope it's possible there will be having to be a wall to keep people from wondering onto the off-ramp but the place behind the blaevenz an orchid type of situation and whatever possible a walkable ground cover so people may want to sit underneath the trees it adds to the nature of the park to whatever we can design and a little bit easier to maintain other than it's flat and the orchard could have a frustrate bearing tree they'll do well. those are my main comments i think it's a very good project and i'm total in favor of it >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes. i have a couple of questions to follow up on commissioner antonini. you're going to negotiate with caltrain obviously but as far as access to the remainder of the embankment i wouldn't think caltrain would be favorabl