gowdy. while the gop is united in the launch or another inquiry into an alleged coverup, republicans are split how partisan and opportunisting the party can afford to appear in a key election year. the national republican congressional committee, the nrcc, is sticking with its shameless fund-raising plug, one targeting president obama with distinct focus on hillary clinton. but just because this select committee is in the house, it doesn't mean the senate can't get in while the getting's good. and naturally, the conservative whisperer of the u.s. senate is not missing out on the benghazi grab bag. no, no, no. north ted cruz will never surrender on benghazi or anything else and to fuel that tenaci tenacity, a tea party group is issuing a benghazi fund-raising flash on his behalf. for house speaker onba eer john this is awkward, asked three times whether boehner had his answer and he stuck to it in our focus is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones, period. our foc

>> we're going to find out because on sunday, we're going to have an exclusive interview with trey gowdy and i think today they're going to name all the republicans. the democrats, i suspect we won't know by this weekend whether or not they're going to participate. so we have booked the head of the house democratic office and we'll talk to him, along with gowdy because the democrats say it's just a political exercise, we may boycott it. i think that's a risky move for them. on one hand i can understand it does make it look partson. on the other hand, if they go ahead, the republicans and hold these hearings and bring up hillary clinton or bring up david petraeus, they may want to have a democrat there to present questions that allow these people to principal the other side of the -- present the other side of the story. interesting choice for the democrats. we'll find out whether they made it on sunday. >> they do have a list to choose from. seven democrats who voted in favor of the select committee. maybe they should say pick from them because they're probably sincere in their vote. >> i

had today about the fact that trey gowdy's big question has already been answered. do you think it's laziness, bad preparation? how does trey gowdy not know that very yes has been answered by hillary clinton in testimony a year ago. >> i'm not sure whyhas been ans by hillary clinton in testimony a year ago. >> i'm not sure why he put that forth. there have been other questions he's put forth that have also been answered. but it underscores to a large extent just how comprehensive the investigation has already been. a lot information coming from the investigations. to cgowdy's credit, a lot touchs different aspects from that night and maybe it hasn't been put into a comprehensive investigation, but at this point in time people probably know what remains to be answered. there are some questions that remain to be answered. >> i guess if there is something new to mind here, there is one they think new to mind here,

trey gowdy displays the right spirit and attitude. he is articulate. i think he'll be an effective chairman. but there are things he doesn't have that normally are needed in the situations. there is no tail wind afforded by a red hot media climate on this issue. there is more mainstream media buy in with this organization. that is always present in the past and when these investigations have worked because it required the politicians in both parties to participate and not simply obstruct. my guess is that democrats in this case will feel utterly free, you can pick this up from nancy pelosi's comments, dismiss this and really not contribute. and that will add to the sense that this is a political circus. i think it's a tall order. >> julie, you covered the white house. how do top officials there regard what the democrats are calling conspiracy week, the appointment of the select committee, voting of the house of lois lerner, the irs official in contempt. do they see these as serious threats or are republicans distracted from better issues for them like

lead lead lead leader pelosi doesn't like the idea of chairman gowdy being the choice. is he a good choice? >> he was a career prosecutor and he's tried cases, been in the arena, knows how to get evidence from witnesses. he knows how to be fair. so trey gowdy is an excellent choice and i think nancy pelosi sounds sort of desperate. i'm trying to figure out what her objections are. there's going to be a lot of pressure on trey gowdy, a lot of responsibility because republicans don't get the benefit of the doubt and the overstatement or misstatement that he pounced on by the democrats and by the media, i think trey is going to do an outstanding job and go after the truth and going to find us. >> can he win the respect of the democrats on the committee? i mean, is that still open for him? i mean, as polarized as the city is, they are not going to agree with them ultimately, but will they at least think that they are fair? >> i would hope so but it depends on what they put on the committee. if they put five partisan people in there with an agenda to block the probe, you kno

trey gowdy, i thought he made it very clear that he wants a fair investigation. going to doug's point which is we must -- if this thing looks political, and it's a bunch of republicans doing -- we'll get what the rnc did, being political, the democrats won't -- they will withdraw. they will claim a victory. what is disturbing most of all and i say this to the democrats which is why no one in my party has felt at least some republicans did in watergate, we deserve to know the truth of what happened and i have heard more outrageous spins and lies how there's nothing to know or whatever for the purpose of politics, just as i've heard on the other side, when it involves american security, dead ambassador, dead americans. it is outrageous about our political system. >> i want to to goal now to twitter. if americans could be without that select committee. i want to know why our military did not go in and save them or even capture the terrorists. americans from polling have taken a great interest in knowing what happened because we lost an ambassador that night. specifi

gowdy wants to put in -- he's play withing the national security of the united states. they're already fundraising on it, the republicans are. it's a shameless exercise. >> both sides spunked raise off stuff like this all the time. aside from that, i don't think we have answers about what happened there and we don't have answers about how the white house responded. they've given one answer, we see other answers by these emails. they were worried about the president's reelection and not being straight with the people about what happened. i think it's great that you played that whole string of trey gowdy because it gives people an idea of why he was picked to head this committee, regardless of whether you think it's a good idea or bad idea, they thought it was a good decision based on the fact he was a successful prosecutor. they think he can do the best job ferreting out the answers to these questions. they're important answers that we don't have and just what you were talking about now about the c.i.a., i think a lot of people don't know about that. >> there's a reason

may i just say this young man gowdy is right out of the lindsey graham mold. i think he is an excellent dhirm chair this committee he he is a smart young man just like his uncle lindsey graham. >> he has a big job. have you sent a letter to the white house. demanding to know where president obama was the night of september 11th, 2012. why do you want to he know that? >> the president of the united states while an ongoing tragedy is taking place our consulate being under attack, you would think that, like the video that we saw of the strike on usama bin laden, that we would see many pictures of the president attentive. all we know is that he was briefed by panetta and dempsey and they left and there was no further communication. could i say, first of all, i think it's important that the democrats join in this. when joe lieberman and i said we ought to have a 9/11 commission, the bush administration didn't want it. when abu abu ghraib happened i condemned it waterboarding i condemned it those were all under the bush administration and for them to say that this i

trey gowdy seems to be saying says that versserious investiga. and there are others who think it's a very convenient way to raise money. just this afternoon, trey gowdy doubled down on comments he made earlier this morning. saying the country should not profit off of it, there are four dead americans. do you think there are people they would like to corral who would like to make money off of it? >> i thought congressman gowdy's point of view was absolutely correct. i saw this interview with joe and mika this morning. there should not be this fundraising gorging that happens around these types of things. irs, yeah, we get it. but something like this where you do have lives of americans that have been taken. i still think there are some serious questions that can be asked and answered, you know, as new revelations. we don't know what else may pop up. so i'm hoping everyone approaches this from a very serious perspective. there are political risks for both parties. the democrats if they're not in the room run the risk of being blind sided and having

chairman trey gowdy. two women and then filling out the committee jim jordan from ohio and mike mom panio from kansas and half of the group has a legal background. one a former u.s. attorney and other military experience. and the house minority leader telling reporters she was undecided on the committee and adding some of the families are against the republican- led investigation. >> it is very sad. chris stephens and glenn doubtery and shaun smith and tyroen woods, two of their families called us and said please don't take us down the path again. >> democrats told fox news they are considering three options. they can boycott it all together. but it makes it harder to defend the administration. they can go with a single panelist that will be the eyes and years and conduct interviews in line with democratic intchlt 232 was in favor. some of the democrats face competitive races this fall. and 186 against. the debate was spirited before hand. >> this doesn't need to be, shouldn't be and will not be a partisa

gowdy of south carolina in this high profile role. he decided to handle it by at least asking his own party to cool it with the fund-raising thing. >> the national republican congressional committee which raises money for house republican candidates they have a blog post up explaining what this committee says. it also asks for contributions you. are not asking for money related to the select committee on ben -- benghazi. do you think that is appropriate? >> i cannot, will not raise money. >> but -- >> i advise my school leagues to follow suit in an unambiguous way. >> they did not listen. national republican party website where you donate to a benghazi watch dog, that is still up there. awkward, they're trying to raise money, mr. gowdy, saying they shouldn't do that. disgusting if any one tries. awkward for the republican party to deal with. they don't want to give up exploiting the attack for the money. the guy they have chosen as their poster child for giving money to the republicans. benghazi. this is awkward. what should they do.

maybe we could ask chairman gowdy. but i think what chairman gowdy has been saying for 24 hours is before the democrats actually accuse us of being political and this being a witch hunt, why don't they join the investigation and if they don't like what they see, they can leave it. but for now, the democrats should join with good intention and probably let the republicans have a majority and they can work out a fair number. it's hard to write it off before you even join it. >> stay with us. monica lewinsky says it's time to bury the blue dress. shedding new light on her affair with president clinton. what you have never heard her say about the former president and first lady, next. >>> also, toronto mayor rob ford, is he missing, and is he the subject of a worldwide man hunt? the story just got a whole lot weirder. the latest on this story coming the latest on this story coming up. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as

trey gowdy is going to head this thing up. what do you think is going to happen with hillary clinton? voluntarily come to speak at this committee or will she be subpoenaed? >> i don't know how it is going to go down or what she's going to do. she needs to come, period. either willing or via subpoena, she should come. i'm impressed with trey gowdy. think he'll have a fair hearing. i'm very happy with the speaker's decision to come with the select committee now. we really need answers. it's been too long and like pulling teeth. hillary clinton needs to come and testify. >> one of the major questions you'd have for her is senior military officials now said they were waiting on state to respond so your first question would be, mrs. clinton, why did that happen? >> absolutely. when in the history of america have we not sent people in to the fight when folks were under attack? why didn't it happen with the only asset that really could have made a difference in that weren't even launched. we can disregard whether they would have been

trey gowdy is now back with us. you were just talking about what questions you want to answer and i guess my next question to you, congressman, would be who specifically do you want to subpoena? who do you think has the actual answers to those questions? >> well, martha, you don't know who has the answer. that's why you tell the jury to wait until the all the evidence is in before they make up their mind. i want to talk to everyone who has first-hand knowledge of what happened that night. i want access to every document because you never know which document, it could be the last one you receive answers your question. so if you want 100% of the truth, then you're boeing to want 100% of the access of witness in the documents. >> we were told that the documents had been turned over. as an example we know that they weren't. 9 ben rhodes email surfaced as a result of judicial watch document request. so that is where we learned there was an effort to make it, focus on internet video and not underlying policy. gy es my que

congressman gowdy you have talk how you will run the committee and one comment raised eyebrows. here it is. >> if an administration is slow walking documents i cannot end a trial simply because the defense will not cooperate. >> congressman, do you see this investigation as a trial in do you see the white house as the defense? >> no. first, happy mother's day to everyone. i add that trials are criminal and civil and for 16 years i have talked in trial metaphors and plan i need to get out of that. what i meant when you ask how long something will last, i need to know how cooperative the other side will be. to the extent that i said any indication to anyone that i view someone as the "defense," what i meant is if you can tell me how cooperative the other side is going to be i can give you a better idea how long something will last. >> congressman, you have been talking about the committee as a kangaroo court, your words. how do you know that before it even begins meeting? do you believe that all the questions about benghazi have been answered? >> what leads us to believe it could

they're still raising money off of trey gowdy and this benghazi committee. how do they expect the american public to take this seriously, to believe that this isn't a show trial? to believe that this is some honest, legitimate investigation when it, in fact, is being used for the express purpose of raising campaign funds for house republicans? >> democrats still haven't said whether they're going to boycott participation in this committee or whether they're going to join. "the new york times" reports that i ear looking dubiously at joining the panel. >> what's your sense of what they'll do? >> i think ultimately they have to participate in it. whether they like it or not, the republicans are in control of the house. they can have the committee, they can have cspan there and they can demand that hillary clinton comes up there and testifies, which sh epresumably would. do they want to have it so democrats can't be there to help her present her side of the story? i mean, this is all about going into 2016 and that's -- in fact, that's when trey gowdy started tal

trey gowdy was joined as the benghazi special committee chairman and he's shooting down fears that the investigation into the deadly attack will not be bipartisan. >> i have no friends to reward and no foes to punish. we're going to go wherever the facts take us. facts are neither republican nor democrat. they are facts, and if we overplay other hand or engage in a process that's not fair according to the american people, we will be punished. >> i hope trey is going to stay true to what he just said. the rules, however, will determine if this is a fair process, not what trey says. it's whether the rules for the conduct of the hearing will provide for a fair, open and balanced proceeding. >> a former prosecutor promising lively hearings. steve centanni from the newsroom. >> reporter: it's a political showdown over the terror attack in benghazi that claimed four lives. ambassador chris stevens was among those who was killed. the white house has called it both a terror attack and a demonstration over an anti-muslim video. republicans want to find out whether the administration tried to do

and others and wasn't from his camp specifically. >> gowdy -- ronan, gowdy has to say, he's the chairman, he's got to say, oh, no, this isn't about politics at all. he's the chairman of this special committee. he can't say that. but everybody else around him is going to say it. >> he made that it's not a circus comment. it's what we would expect and but everyone hopes it comes to some truth. thank you for joining. what's motivating that group that kidnapped the nigerian school girls and how does it play into this global war we are seeing on girls education. stay with us to find out. nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes. the problem isn't likely to go away... ...on its own. so it's time we do something about it. and there's help. premarin vaginal cream. a prescription that does what no over-the-counter product was designed to do. it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these ch

trey gowdy is fantastic. he's a great guy to have there. do we need an independent panel? do we need an noncongressional panel, independent prosecutor come many and do the exact same thing, less than partisan, just find out what's really going on and then turn it on to a congressional panel? >> i think he should be given a chance that he can -- >> yes, i agree with that, but in addition to trey gowdy. we're not going to get that from the senate. apparently the senate democrats don't care what's going on. how about some independent counsel? >> i'll think about that. juan, i saw it on the panel last night on special report, you are talking about trey gowdy having been a former prosecutor who will do a serious investigation. i saw someone else saying he doesn't believe that he doesn't believe president obama or hillary clinton were involved in any cover up. how does he know that? maybe there's not evidence to say he was and then there's not enough evidence to say who pushed the video. doesn't anybody want to get to the truth? >> i believe everybody thinks we've had the truth.

trey gowdy is theç guy. they're going to start releasing the rules on how they're going to do it in the next day or two. >> look for 10 to 20 members being named. i'm curious to see if democrats are going to be in there. are they going to obstruct? are they going to participate? that will decide how this thing will go. >> we're going to shift over to another story. you remember the scarlet knights? their commencement speaker in prior years was snooki. i believe she made $32,000. >> she was eup sraoeuted on campus to give a speech. >> condoleezza rice was actually asked to come and to theç president's credit and many in the school, they supported her being there. but there was a group, sort of an infectious cell, professors and students, who protested the fact that condoleezza rice would actually be there on campus based purely on her politics. >> they just didn't like the fact that she was in the bush administration. and so these members of the intolerant left, they had, i think they had a sit-in. they too

gowdy is a favorite pause of someone who leads federal investigations in the past. >> that is why the idea of the select committee is bouncing around for sometime. >>> health officials speaking about the first reported case of a mysterious and deadly illness that sickened hundreds in the middle east. the victim came down with mers. how is the victim doing, garrett? >> reporter: the hospital a noupsed that the victim is doing well and continues to improve and could be heading home sometime soon. the details are being worked out. the virus mers as you mentioned the it has killed a third of those infected in the middle east. it was reported in saudi arabia which is where this latest victim was working in a hospital and likely contracted the virus. >> we are not surprised that mers came to the united states. we know that infectious diseases do not respect boundaries. in this day and aim of global travel and trade infectious diseases can spread anywhere. the cvc expected it to work to the u.s. and spent much of the last two years preparing for it. >> based on the way he travelled back to t

i want to finish with that with congressman gowdy. you saw this is not political. this is just about fact finding. as congressman basara brought up, just this week the national republican congressional committee, which is the committee that supports gop house candidates, sent out this fundraiser. house republicans will make sure that no one will get away from gowdy and the select committee, and then will you automatically add your name today to join us and become a benghazi watchdog? this is a fundraiser coming out from the nrcc. congressman gowdy, isn't this exactly the problem, the danger, the risk that you overstep your bounds, the gop? not you personally. you overreach, and you make this political, and as congressman basara mentioned, you end up going a political hunt instead of dealing with issues that people deal with their daily lives like obama care and jobs? >> yes. which is exactly why i said i will never and have never sent out any fundraising literature trying to raise money in the grief and tragedy of four dead americans, and i have asked my colleagues

i'm hopeful that gowdy will be able to do that. but i'm suspicious. >> well, suspicious -- tony, i'm listening to bernard and thinking, i believe that the administration and democrats have been successful in calling it a conspiracy because we really haven't gotten to all of the answers. so why would they join this panel, in your mind? >> well, it was silly to float out the idea that they wouldn't be part of the process. if it's going to happen, at least be collaborating and getting the facts out. that's been the essential problem. the white house has obstructed this investigation whether or not we've had one or four, the entire time. they've withheld documents and sent documents that have been heavily redacted. in one document, every other word was redacted. it wasn't until the rhodes e-mail came out in the foia did we recognize the severity to the west wing. and boehner properly played it -- >> he wanted to see hard evidence and that's when this all happened. we'll have to see how fast it moves now. in the meantime, does the presi

gowdy is legit player and that he actually does believe that republicans should not fund raise off of this. i think there is a split in republicans over whether or not they should be doing that or not. boehner very pointedly would not answer questions the other day at a press conference, like do you think that the nrcc should be doing this? and he would not answer it. i think that was really telling. >> but i do agree, alex, i do think it opens the republicans up to krit siccriticism that th politicizing it particularly when we saw this week one of the family members of one of the people who was killed in benghazi actually said we don't want you to do this. >> that's a big danger for them here and trey gowdy said that this morning on fox news. there's precedent here. dan burton, the oversight chairman under clinton, famously shot a watermelon or pumpkin -- not really sure what it is -- he just looked like a total clown. that completely undermined his credibility and hurt the republicans in november. i think actually part of what's going on here, among many reasons why boehner wanted t

they have a chairman and former prosecutor trey gowdy. he wants to judge whether or not things were done right before, during and after the benghazi attack. goudy doesn't think democrats are going to want to play along, but he doesn't care. >> washington is its own ecosystem. they wouldn't like it if i cured malaria tonight. because i am a republican. of course they are going to be critical. that's not the jury. >> at the white house the administration refuses to say whether or not they will cooperate with the committee, but the suggestion at that and pennsylvania avenue says the latest effort is not legitimate. >> what i will say is that he is cooperating with legitimate oversight and that cooperation will continue. what i am not going to speculate about is what the republicans are up to. it is blatantly apparent with what they have said this is a highly partisan exercise. >> we have learned a seven page e-mail exists which our chief intelligence correspondent says outlines the strategy for shaping the2jpx media discussio about benghazi

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i support chairman gowdy 100% on this. he's absolutely right. and the leadership need to back him up. >> this is a stunning abdication of leadership by john boehner, seriously. but it goes back to when he once said it wasn't his business to tell the american people or the members what to think whether the president was born in this country. for him not to back up trey gowdy to say of course we're not going to fundraise on this and i want to stop, it's stunning he wouldn't do that. >> you're one of these reporters who keeps your file cabinet in your head the whole time. you remember, you're so good at remembering it, you're right. and by the way, i'm sure chairman reince preibus everything you say on this. it's horrible, it's ridiculous. morally, it's absurd. michael, you caught them on it better than i could. new republican restrictions were going to make it harder for people to vote. in north carolina, we talked about scaring up votes. they're scaring it away. wee got signs now as of the primaries this week in north carolina, a state i've come

gowdy said, quote, it is a scandal. that's what he was saying at a campaign fundraising, congressman johnson. >> i'm sure the republican party and my friend mr. gowdy will continue to raise money and stek up anger about this false narrative that they're projecting on benghazi. it just seems to be a scheme to help drive out those extreme voters who want to hear about this. and clekd money payment and then try to get those voters out to try to win the senate. >> the republicans keep going on scandals, scandals, scandals, yet the president is seen focused on the economy, on the upcoming midterm elections. listen to this. >> and so the question is, what are we going to do about it in this midterm? the choices couldn't be clear. the choices could not be clear. as democrats, i believe we should be fighting for equal pay for equal work. they do not. that's a choice. if you work full time, you should not be in poverty, we should increase the minimum wage. it's the right thing to do. >> is that what is going to be critical in th

gowdy. everything that i have seen from him and i do consider him a great prosecutor, and i have seen him in the prosecutor mode in our committee, but as far as this committee is concerned, we have to go in and be finders of the fact and go in neutral and don't need to be making accusations before we get in the room to hear the facts. i don't know what's going to happen, but the one thing he said to me he is hopeful that we would be able to have a situation where there would be fairness and i'm going to hold him to that and all of us are going to hold him to that. and the last thing, one of the reasons why the leader was so concerned about that and i was, too, is we had situations where in the oversight committee where we were not consulted at all with regard to subpoenas. and that's a very, very serious responsibility and we think the minority should be included in that process. >> i agree with my colleagues and this is a committee that should not have been formed. it has been investigated

trey gowdy says she will suffer the consequences if she does not comply with subpoenas. clinton says there's no reason for the investigations to continue. elizabeth prann is live in washington k more. >>> the same day we learn that representative trey gowdy be elected head of the house special committee hopes to call on hillary clinton during the investigation. we heard from the former secretary of state in an unrelated event. she says with so much already disemployeesed there's no reason for the committee. >> of course there are a lot of reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that has been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and continue to move forward. that's their choice. i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> perhaps a similar tone when she testified at the foreign relations committee. >> the fact is we have four dead americans is it because of a protest or because some guys decided to kill some americans. what difference at this point does it make? >> this

and trey gowdy said time is no barometer to use. we want answers and we want the family to get answers. >> along the lines of what tray was saying is if hilary clinton doesn't participate in the subpoena they said she will serve the legal consequences. will there be legal consequences? >> there should be. i think it is flat out unamerican they don't want to participate and would have distrain for the rules here and congress and the investigation like this when clearly they are not listening to the american people. what disrespect for the process. and you want to occupy the white house? you were the guys that redetected and withheld documents. >> what is really interesting on this is whether or not democrats will participate in the end. we thought it would be seven republicans and five democrats. what do you think it will shake out to be? >> either they will not participate or they want equal number. and they will stonewall everything if they have equal numbers. we have seen them tune out the other hearings and when gregory hicks is

gowdy is a former u.s. attorney and member of the house oversight committee which has held a number of hearings on the benghazi attacks and the aftermath and the affordable care act of course. south carolina republican is in his second term. the vote on the committee is likely to be along party lines but republican congressman jason chaffetz says the obama administration simply hasn't answered all the questions about what happened the night of the attack, and in the days and weeks after. >> we have got four dead americans. i'm proud of what the speaker is doing. we very to get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. the select committee is appropriate and it is timely and high time we find the answers what really happened. >> reporter: chaffetz is one of those pushing for congressman gowdy to chair the committee, bill. bill: what about these democrats threatening a boycott, wendell. how is that shaking down? >> reporter: california congressman adam schiff says it is all about politics. demo

trey gowdy, who's leading it, says this is not a side show. he's a former prosecutor, he wants to really vet the facts here. so how will you measure your answer personally to that question? >> right, right. this is the same guy who's been on your network and others in the last three days saying he's already got the facts, he's got the smoking gun, and he's already indicted and convicted everybody -- martha: i don't know that he said that. he didn't say that. >> that's why you have to have a fair process, martha. and i think most people would agree that having an even number of republicans and dem can accurates, that's fair. that's how we work the ethics committee here in the congress, and that's how we deal with nonpartisan issues. martha: first of all, if you can deliver a direct quote from trey gowdy saying it's a closed deal, i'd love to see it, because he absolutely didn't ask me that when i spoke to him here. >> what trey gowdy has said is that he's got this information which for some reason he's not disclosing, and that that information

trey gowdy says he doesn't approve, he's never raised a penny off of this. and we find he has spoken out benghazi at fundraisers. the fact that they've chosen trey gowdy rather than more experienced legislators. this panel has no more authorities than the previous seven panels, it's going to be more of the same. it answers its own question, what the motive is here. >> the fact is, crystal, the republicans have referred to this, this whole investigation as a trial. some republicans have actually used the language. listen to this. >> we need to try this thing really in the public eye. we need to have witnesses under oath, in a single setting. >> i can't end a trial simply because the defense won't cooperate. >> i mean, the second person there that edshowed, krystal is, of course, trey gowdy himself, who is leading the committee and he's calling this a trial. >> they made it pretty clear what they're all about here. even in that fundraising e-mail and on that fundraising website, they made it clear that they were going after president obama and secretary of sta

i can tell you from covering tray gowdy, he's serious. if you sort of see this play out to gowdy versus cummings that becomes a heavyweight fight which will be a very interesting thing to cover. all that being said with to your point, when you look at the evidence wa evidence, gowdy claims he has all the new stuff and there's not a lot of anything new to suggest this should go forward. a lot of them thought they were protecting hillary clinton. that's kwhief i think this is coming back again. they want to put some mud on her tires ahead of 2016. gowdy versus cummings. >> pay-per-view. >> and msnbc is more like it. luke russert and chairman steel, thank you. >>> after the break, today, president obama addressed the growing is scandal and ch probl at the va. we'll talk about what it means for the white house next on "now." sfx: car unlock beep. vo: david's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your d

tray gowdy cannot be called a careerist in this case. he doesn't like his career. he wants to go back to spartanburg and play golf and raise his two children. he's always says i'm a prosecutor. not a politician. it seems to me he does have a legitimate institutional argument which is congressional oversight depends on access to documents and documents are being hidden here. that said, i would remind my republican friends of one thing, 1998, every disaster in politics is at some point or other a disaster of disproportion and the republicans in 1998 got the bit in their teeth, ran on impeachment of bill clinton and he managed to gain seats in off year election in his second term. really hard to do. >> juan. >> the problem is -- as george has suggest, it has not displayed a sort of partisan in the middle of all this. the problem here is there has been an unlimited number of investigations. there's been a senate intelligence committee report that i believe came out just earlier this year. there have been house committee investigations. there's been an independent inves

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have done more and finally what happened afterwards as gowdy points out. was there a deliberate effort to mislead the public. john boehner was reluctant to call the committee and it is because of the fact that there is not solid answers to the questions. and may simply be the bureaucracy and that is you know on all three areas. and then questions that comes, is it worth having a select national hearings. and if they don't get hard answers to the reasonable questions, some people would say are the democrats or republicans more concerned with pursuing this issue than getting jobs for americans or making college more affordable. it is a high reward and high risk for republicans to pursue the committee and so long to do it. >> speaker of the house. top republican did talk about that in the weekly news conference. i had a conversation and we want to work together to get to the truth. and frankly. we heard the global warming we set up. the split between republicans and democrats. there are risk for republicans in seen in overplaying their hand. >> that's right.

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gowdy made up his mind on certain points. he also says mr. gowdy has his facts wrong. you said miscommittee wanted to hear from hillary clinton. here what happens she had to say moments ago about the new probe at a forum in new york city. >> there are a lot of reasons why, despite all of the hearings all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> you get to call the shots -- >> when we come back, a vulnerable democrat who made it clear president obama does not speak for him. why is he walking side by side with the commander in chief today. >>> thrust into the spotlight a year ago, charles ramsey, the hero of cleveland, joins me to share new detail of the day and his life since. we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, l

speaker john boehner picked republican trey gowdy to lead the select committee. minority leader nancy pelosi who has not yet committed to names democrats to the group objected to the unequal balance. some suggested boycotting the committee. congressman jim clyburn of south carolina says democrats should not take part if there isn't an equal number. this is what he says, quote i would be dead set against it. i'm not bringing a noose to my hanging. the democratic congressman elijah cummings of mtd md won't rule out participating. he said democrats need representation to keep republicans in check. >> al hunt, obviously, yes, tough language from democrats. also, the obama administration raised questions on the legitimacy of this investigation, even before it began. what should democrats do? >> well, i think they may well not participate. depends on what -- more than the size of the minute majority and majority there, it will be the rule, what rights they have to subpoena witnesses, whether information will be shared the way darrell issa didn't. i don't think there's

just like congressman issa, gowdy insists there is coverup. there is evidence of a coverup, but he just can't disclose it yet. >> i have evidence that -- that -- that not only are they hiding it, it's an attempt to hide it. i have evidence there was a systematic way to withhold documents from congress. >> apparently there is no cure for the gop's benghazi obsession. it's a candy store for the conservatives. they lwill not, cannot let it g. perhaps there is is convoluted logic to this hysteria. the benghazi conspiracy complex has been built with a singular purpose. to tarnish hillary clinton who just so happens to be a likely subpoena target of the committee. so benghazi happens to be a fever making republican obsession that also happens to function as a really, really premature attempt to derail the hillary clinton 2016 campaign. but there is another reason house republicans continue to build additions and tack on all sorts of new wings to the benghazi conspiracy complex. and it has to do with republican in-fighting. doesn't it always? after m