i learned so much about myself at hawken. i had a latin teacher who has passed away that taught me how to think and those are skills i have with me for the rest of my life. >> i am an attorney the at the legal aid society of cleveland, pro bono services. because it is law day, in addition to windsor, can you name another robot ok's that is one of your favorites -- another pro bono case that is one of your favorites? >> i have a lot. the truth is, there has been talk about this in the press. paul weiss did not charge a penny. we even paid for the fees from experts out of our pocket. that was not an issue. when i met edie at her apartment that day and she asked me -- first she was not sure i was qualified. she had a computer in the corner and i play the argument i did in new york. she watched it for a while and said, i think you're good enough. then she said, how much is this going to cost me? i did this with my hand. she said, i want to pay. and i said, you can't afford it. [laughter] the truth of the matter is, it never occur