we were labelmates. i was on columbia records in my early years in rap, that album is on columbia, still, and some of the executives there would tell me i was the new bob dylan, and that was mind blowing. >> charlie: it should be. yeah. >> charlie: speaking of poetry. >> oh, man, he's someone that's, like -- you know, whew, he's out there. amazing. >> charlie: when you look at the artists who have made it, i mean, do all of them have a bundle of talent? >> no. >> charlie: they don't? i mean, i shouldn't say that because i'm sure, to make it, you have to have some kind of talent. >> charlie: you have to have something. >> you've got to have something. but, you know, what is making it? that sometimes bothers me because i look at a lot of the artists who made it through the years and they don't always seem too happy. like we say, the press eats them up or, you know, i wonder if they're happy with what they are? >> charlie: and what was the feud you had with jay-z? >> that was about getting those conflicts o