ms. mooney, in looking at the documents the va has produced in response to the committee's subpoena, are you aware of the response includes any documents or emails dated prior to april 24th, 2014? >> congressman, the subpoena was responded to by the office of general counsel as it is a legal action. i don't have knowledge of that. >> okay. can you please explain the difficulties that you face answering the questions posed by the committee weeks ago? >> i think in terms of week uzgo with regard to -- weeks ago -- >> when was the spread sheet that was mentioned on april 24th destroyed? >> dr. lynch didn't provide a response to the committee's request regarding the statement because the office of the inspector general was ongoing and his own investigation was ongoing and at the time my understanding is there were no facts on which to respond to the committee's facts in the letter so my understanding is we stuck to the facts in the letter. >> is this unique to the va? when you talk about your

wilgunn, or any other representive office of the general counsel, ms. joan mooney, assistant secretary for congressional legislative affairs, dr. ron mauer, mr. bobbing, congressional relation officer, or michael hough, congressional relations officer, or parties to or referenced in such emails and written correspondence. >> members, you have heard the motion, do i hear a second? motion's been moved and properly seconded. i will open the floor for the ranking member to make a statement and would ask if any other members have a statement that they be very, very brief because everybody has a very, very tight schedule this morning. i understand the ranking member is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i think we all can agree that quality, safe, accessible health care has always been a priority of this committee. i believe that has not changed today. we have over the past years asked the v.a. for information that has not been forthcoming. frustrations remain high among committee members. the chairman sent a letter on may 1, 2014, requesting t

>> no, i don't. >> ms. mooney who is your immediate supervisor? >> sloan gibson. >> did you have any discussion with sloan gibson about your testimony here today? >> brief, in passing, in the morning. >> no documentation of any of that communication? >> no, sir. >> mr. huff, who's your immediate supervisor? > mr. mark hone. >> ok. did he have any conversation with mr. hone about your testimony here today? >> yes, sir. >> and what was the nature of that conversation or communication? >> to provide clear, accurate, and honest responses to your questions. >> you know, it's very troubling to me that we talk about accountability and making sure we know the facts here. but when you don't know the name of the people that actually did the destruction it seems like that would be the first thing when you went to phoenix you'd find out who did it. >> so congressman, my goal in going to phoenix was to understand the process. i knew that the inspector general was there. they were there to assess intent and to identify if there was responsibility or accountabil

that he did not provide this -- >> ms. mooney, i can give you examples where they ask a subject matter expert, whether they can briefest on certain issues. they said that they were willing to him about they have to go there to get the oc l.a.'s commission permission. >> i would respectfully suggest that it is permission. >> we have an e-mail and we will gladly share it with you. and the subject matter expert as saying that that is the policy of the va. so we can address that to this attention. i have talked to the secretary a number of times about the fact that the relationship between the department and this committee is getting extremely strange because we are not able to get the information that we need to. the beginning of the term is smoothing out some of the request as far as going to the subject matter expert and that has not worked. and so hopefully we will be able to get that the way we should work it to build up trust and overlength medication. so i want to thank you for us and i know that you have but our congre

first question is for ms. mooney i believe he articulated the assertion of attorney-client privilege. reference that numerous times. identified for the committee to the client is your asking for that privilege. >> i would just for that to the office of general counsel. >> has not been identified? >> attorney-client privilege -- >> would there have to be inclined. to is the client? who is refusing to provide information to this committee in the american public about this issue? >> i know that the office of general counsel is working with the committee staff. >> are you do not know? >> i am not with the office of general counsel. >> the gentleman will yield. all we know is that it is one of the people who has, in fact, been subpoenaed. we have not been given a name yet, but it is one of the people >> thank you, mr. chairman. my understanding of the privilege, we get the privilege of knowing who the client is. this should have been noted. i would like to return to doctor lynch and returning to your trip to phoeni

expired.s .hank you, ms. mooney ms. mr. jackson lee, five minutes. >> thank you for the courtesy, for the thank you service that you're doing for the american people and for all the veterans. probably not one of us that could not count our in world war ii, there for me, others, extended family members, neighbors, faith there's notothers, a place we can go that we do not touch a veteran or a veteran touch us, or a soldier. and as well it is not a place can go where we're not grateful. thanks overwhelming and i you for allowing me to sit here. i'm from texas, and there are facilities including those in my area of 32,000 in the 18th congressional district alone. this into theead record, with my colleagues who are on this committee have probably immersed themselves in. but i just want to have these words, this is about the practices reported in phoenix, we're finding that inappropriate scheduling systemic problem nationwide. then just to read this paragraph, schedules go into the scheduling program, find an open veteran if, ask

wilgunn, or any other representive office of the general counsel, ms. joan mooney, assistant secretary for congressional legislative affairs, dr. ron mauer, mr. bobbing, congressional relation officer, or michael hough, congressional relations officer, or parties to or referenced in such emails and written correspondence. >> members, you have heard the motion, do i hear a second? motion's been moved and properly seconded. i will open the floor for the ranking member to make a statement and would ask if any other members have a statement that they be very, very brief because everybody has a very, very tight schedule this morning. i understand the ranking member is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i think we all can agree that quality, safe, accessible health care has always been a priority of this committee. i believe that has not changed today. we have over the past years asked the v.a. for information that has not been forthcoming. frustrations remain high among committee members. the chairman sent a letter on may 1, 2014, requesting t

i would have to defer to ms. mooney. >> i'm sorry? the date again? >> march 14, 2013. mr. sean hart was before the committee and made reference to gaming the system and asking questions on who would be punished and how would they be treated. meanwhile the bonuses continue. you realize the information we had, this is from a web site source and we can get it from your agency but in phoenix in $843,000 worth of bonuses so wasn't just the director. that was over to your period. my question while we haven't received yet is the listing of those who lost their bonuses for failures in the system. who are we going to hold accountable? it's easy for you to stand up here, maybe not easy to say the buck kind of stops here but maybe it doesn't all but the buck stops at and made the decision, the director in phoenix. my question is where do i get that report answered before we worry about what just came out? >> congressman i will work to get an answer to your question. >> how soon will they get an answer given march 14, 2013 still waiting to know how the secretary of the va is going to

ms. joan mooney assistant secretary for congressional legislative affairs, dr. ron mauer director of the congressional liaison service and mr. -- congressional offices are. the scope of the subpoena will encompass all e-mails and other written correspondence for these parties discussed the destruction of an alternate waitlist regardless of what name was given and which form in which it was kept. pursuant to rule 11, clause two m-1 beet of the house of representatives in rule three klaus g of this committee we have a motion before us that is at the desk and i will ask that the clerk will read the motion. >> ranking member michaud authorizations to subpoena to eric shinseki secretary of the u.s. department of veterans affairs for the department of veterans affairs to produce all e-mails and written correspondence sent between april 9 ,-com,-com ma 21:48:45 a.m. and may 8, 2146:00 p.m. which address in whole or in part the destruction or disappearance of an alternate or interim waitlist with regard to carl t. hayden veterans affairs medical center located in phoeni

ms. joan mooney. dr. ron mauer, director of the congressional liaison service, and congressional relations officer, or mr. michael huff. the scope of this is subpoena will encompass all e-mails and other written correspondence where these parties discussed the destruction of an alternate waitlist, regardless of what name it was given, and which form in which it was cap. pursuant to rule 11, clause two b of the house of representatives and rule three of clause g of this committee, we have a motion before us that is at the desk. i will ask that the clerk will read the motion. ranking member michelle moved to the committee authorized issuance of a subpoena. this address in whole or in part the destruction and disappearance of an alternate or interim waitlist with regards to the carl t hayden veterans affairs medical center located in phoenix arizona, in which secretary should seki, robert , mr.l and thomas lynch will gone, general counsel, or any other representative of the , dr.e of general counsel ron maue