but today, the osce -- osce rather announced the organization is willing to support and facilitate humanitarian efforts in ukraine. what does that mean? >> what that means is so our mandate is to one, we establish facts and report and then the other one is facilitating dialogue and access. so we facilitate the two sides getting together, the ukrainian government side and the rebel side and talks about deesc lace, about the cease-fire and then we also monitor things. we are out there in the field so if there is anything from roadblocks to occupation of buildings to shelling in civilian areas which by the way, there has been a fair bit in eastern ukraine. we write about it. then it goes out to our 57 participating states including the u.s., by the way, and also to the general public and the media. >> okay. let's talk about the crash site. so the recovery part of what needs to happen in that crash site, that part is effectively over? >> yeah. on wednesday, it got suspended because of shelling in the area, twice in the past few days, we've had a big group of experts out there, basically, they were

the russian representative to the osce has emphatically denied reports. we therefore urge both ukraine and russia to resolve their differences peacefully and through genuine dialogue and negotiation. -- such aslatively the friendship between the two countries and the -- statement are valid points of departure towards reconciliation. indeed, president putin and shenko mustoro maintain their dialogue and build on it like a scaffold. it is the only valid path to a mutually acceptable the dramatic solution to the crisis. a military solution in our view is not a viable one. a cease-fire should be urgently thetiated and agreed as first necessary step in ending the conflict, which has left more than 3000d, wounded, and tens of thousands of displaced from their homes. on this part the government of ukraine must continue to accommodate the legitimate citizenry and all protect their interests. we are confident that strident efforts towards greater inclusiveness will foster the necessary cohesion. this has the potential of reducing hostilities and establish the foun

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osce officials are posted in twitter, four expert, they took new routes to reach the sight and the ukrainian government declared a 24-hour truce. pro russian separatists are have been shelling nearby areas. it's unclear whether the experts will have time to conduct a full investigation. >>> the operator of a power pla plant of japan has under estimated the size of sewatsuna that could hit the area. the electric power company conducted tsunami simulations, it included data involving the expected duration of a under sea land slide, a manger quake could cause. the authority discovered that the tsunami heights was too low. they later raised the estimate of the maximum height. nuclear authority officials accepted the revised projections but in a meeting on thursday, participants learned that they entered incorrect data concerning the potential length of the land slide, and the results may have planners rethinking how to respond to potential disasters. it could delay the ci wall in t. >>> the foreign ministers of china russia and four central asian countries say that a deadline on reforming the wo

the osce officials posted on twitter. they said four experts from netherlands and australia reached the crash site via a route. the experts arrived at the s after the ukrainian governme unilaterally declared a 24-hou truce. ukrainian government officia said on thursday that pro-russian separatists repeatedly shelled areas aro the area. because the truce is for a limited time, it's unclear whether the experts can cond a full investigation. >>> russia has dismissed as unfounded u.s. accusations t it violated a nuclear missil treaty. moscow added it has its own complaints against the u.s. regard to the treaty. a u.s. government official issued a statement on monday sayingol intermediate r forces treaty. russia's foreign ministry on wednesday said the allegatio are completely baseless. the ministry noted a planned u.s. defense system in easte europe capable of launching midrange missiles is banned under the treaty. the treaty was signed by the soviet union and the united states in 1987. it was designed to eliminate ground-lau

he informed us there is no snm presence, and no -- although the osce is in the process of deploying a team to these areas. this will be critical, as we seek factual information as to what is precisely unfolding on the drowned. mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, the situation on and around the border between ukraine, and the russian federation, is a particular concern and remains a key obstacle to the deescalation of the situation on the ground, as arms and heavy weaponry, reportedly continue to flow unabated, into ukraine from russia. with international verification, as discussed in the talks. in this regard, we take note of the recent statement made by the president, that the first by lateral consultations between the border guards of ukraine, and the federation, are scheduled for saturday, 30 august. it is also critical that the elections announce the 26 of october, take place throughout ukraine, and become a unifying and reckon sylla story mechanism, that will ensure that people throughout the country, feel represented in kiev. nor can we allow the continuation of destruction tha

osc officials posted on twitter four experts from the netherlands and australia took a new route to reach the site, and the ukrainian government declared a 24-hour truce. government officials said pro-russian separatists have repeatedly shelled nearby areas. it's unclear whether the experts will have time to conduct a full investigation. >>> the operator of a power plant in central japan has under estimated the potential maximum height of a tsunami that could hit the complex, all japan's nuclear reactors are offline and need to pass straighter safety screenings following the 2011 disaster before they can resume operation. the power company conducted tsunami simulations for two reactors at the plant. they included data involving the expected duration of an landslide, a major quake might cause. r regulation authority discovered the estimated tsunami height was too low immediately after screening began in july last year. they later raised the estimate of the maximum height. officials acre cemented the revised projections. but at a meeting on thursday, participants learned that they entered i

s osce posted that they took a new route to reach the site and the ukrainian government declared a 24-hour truce. government officia said pro-russian separatists have repeatedly shelled nearby areas. it's unclear whether the experts will have time to conduct a full investigation. >>> the operator of a power plant in central japan has underestimated the potential height of a tsunami that could it this complex. all reactors are currently off line. they need to pass stricter safety screenings imposed following the 2011 disaster in fukushima before they can resume the operation. the power company conducted tsunami simulations for two reactors at its tack hama plant. they included data involving the expected during ration of an undersea landslide might cause. the nuclear regulation authority discovered the estimated tsunami height was too low immediately after screening began in july last year they later raised the estimate and nuclear authority officials accepted the estimates but at a meeting on thursday they learned that the company had entered incorrect data concerning the potential le

and ukraine's president says moscow and kiev osce set to begin consultations on how to patrol the border together shortly before that petro poroshenko but accused russia of invading ukraine details now from fall asleep she's in eastern ukraine. well certainly the messages that are coming out of kiev are mixed indeed the latest comments from the ukrainian president petro poroshenko is an offer of cooperation that ukrainian and russian troops jointly patrol the ukrainian russian border so that no kind of military hardware can cross through that border now this comes hot on the heels of an earlier statement in which he directly accused russia of invading ukraine border were visible today because of the escalation of the situation in the denounce greed and because of the french rule in gratian of ukrainian territory by the russian army i have decided to cancel my visit to turkey now russia has repeatedly denied that it's giving any kind of military assistance or troops to the government fighters a spokesperson for the united nations secretary general has said that there is no there for catio

of a gaza one at the same time israel is accusing her months of rocket fire at southern israel the osce simonds that are currently sounding in the south of this country but it's not yet been cleared up whether in fact that would triggered by a rocket fire it was a seventy two hour cease fire that was due to expire at midnight on wednesday and two hours before that expired date went into effect there were around five rockets fired at israel israel responded by hitting some four targets in the gaza strip and also moving lising its troops on the israel gaza border so that certainly so tensions here climb as both sides started feeling that they could be a resumption of all of this happens while we have these in direct negotiations taking place in cairo there is this new agreement in place for a five day cease fire and it's hoped that this time will be used so that they can be a permanent deal reached between the sides what we are hearing from the teams in cairo is that there has been significant progress but that there are still outstanding issues regarding the lifting of the siege in gaza

return now to the fluid situation in ukraine we are joined vee skype from the spokesman for organization osce we always appreciate you joining us. michael, what are your colleagues seeing on the ground happening in eastern ukraine? >> good to be back with you. well, we've just received a spot report, what we call a spot report from our monitors from mariupul, the key city on the sea of azov. they observed that ukrainian forces are working vigorously to build protection for themselves and the second thing in brief interviews with ukrainian soldiers one got the sense they feel far outgunned. they reported see tanks, armored personnel carriers, and missile launchers. there's a great imbalance. >> what is day-to-day life like for people living in this situation? >> well, you know, it's a very sad situation, and in fact something that is almost hidden from the headlines. but there is a kind of humanitarian catastrophe unfolding. the u.n. tells us there's as many as 300,000 people on the move from eastern ukraine to safer ground. about half of those are women and children and low on funds and even

they say the two check points in rebel hands have monitors from the osce, the organization in europe. they are there and can see what's coming through. this is a very, very long order. in the last 24 hours, christine, there have been reports from the ukrainian anti-terror operation of two armored military convoys both in the north of the conflict area and down in the south prompting the accusation that russia is trying to open a second front down in the south. there has been artillery shelling from across the border into ukraine and also last night ukraine says it captured ten russian paratroopers in the conflict zone and they have provided testimony. there's video where they say they were not told they were going to be crossing into ukraine. they thought they were on military exercises. early in the morning they were put in a military convoy and only the officers knew they would be crossing the border to help the rebels in their fight. as you can see behind me, the conflict really brought devastation in the towns and villages as the ukrainian army and pro-russian rebels. ukraine push

. >> earlier today i spoke with michael spokesman for the osce. i asked him what his colleagues on the ground in eastern ukraine, what they're observing. >> we just received a spot report. of course, the city, they observed two things. one is that ukrainian forces, they're frantically working to dig themselves in. building trenches, building barriers, and protection for themselves. and then the second thing in kind of brief interviews with the ukrainian soldiers one gets the sense they feel far outgunned. they reported seeing tanks and armored personnel carriers, missile launchers. there is a big imbalance on the ukrainian side. >> what is day-to-day life for people living in this situation? >> you know, it's a very sad situation. something that is almost hidden from the headlines, but there is a humanitarian catastrophe unfolding. the u.n. tells us there are 300,000 people on the move from eastern ukraine to safer ground. about half of those are women and children, and a lot of them are very low on funds. even the agency who is are looking after

they were with the osce. >> the rebels did not try to stop them? >> correct. they, like many western journalists who had come in to cover it, they would go to the road, take photographs, write things down. it was really only when the ukrainians decided to do some major military pusher her right around the area of the crash site two days ago that the dutch delegation was stopped from going in. goingvestigators had been in and looking around. there was a narrative that the rebels were blocking, but i think it was actually much more complicated. >> too early to tell if this will have a consequence to the future of ukraine? you know, i think the future of ukraine, initially the hope was that it would be a turning point. it would be proven that the rebels were the ones who shot the plane down and no one could possibly back them after such a tragedy caused by them. i think what has happened, unfortunately, is the narrative has sort of congealed, and away, in eastern ukraine. that is what people there believe that the ukrainians shot it down. >> the government shut i

osce scouting mission, reconnaissance mission headed out to the site to see if it's safe to go out for a second day. dutch investigators said they would spend a limited amount of time at the site. they're hoping to be fully operational by the end of the weekend. >> what do we know about efforts to ensure that the fighting comes to a standstill while inspectors are there? this is potentially dreadly work for these inspectors? >> reporter: yes. the dutch investigating team, the dutch are leading that operation, and they are they well aware this is a very unstable situation in that part of the world. we've had agreement, parties agreeing they will commit to a cease-fire in that area and guarantee the safety of the international investigators. the ukraine government also ratifying an agreement, which would allow for 700 armed personnel to enter that site. now, again, the australian foreign minister said the separatists won't agree with that and she also said she doesn't think it's necessary. this is a humanitarian necessary, they need to repatriate the bodies, and the site which has been a

they have urged security council and the osce and the penaling union to act with the highest urgency. >> we can confirm that russian military boots are on ukraineian ground. ukrainian forces are capable to tackle and to cope with the russi russian-led gurellas, but this is quite difficult for us to fight with russia. and its army. >> for the first time, the involvement of russian regular forces has also been effectively confirmed by the separatist leader in donetsk. >> among volunteers from russia, there have always been many retired military servicemen. they fight alongside us and standing. this is their duty. moreover, i will be even more frank with you: there are currently serving soldiers among us who prefer to spend their vacations not on sea beaches but among us. >> waiting to meet those solids outside the southern city of mariupol are ukrainian reinforcements. they are reinforcing around the city of mariupol attempting to extend the advance of the russian forces down that road there. at this particular checkpoint there, there are just four soldiers. and they complain that they

i want to bring in the spokesman for the osce monitoring mission in ukraine. michael, you have been to the site many times. you have just returned from months in the region. have things improved at all since you first arrived? there have been promises of greater access to the site there have been some attempted cease-fires, et cetera, but is it any better today than it was when that plane went down? >> this is the worst of all scenarios, we said if the front line passed through the site, it will have to cause a retrier retrieval of human remains, the search for belongings and that investigation. there is no activity going on. all activity suspended a few days ago after the dutch, who led the investigation, said it was just too dangerous to proceed with that recovery of human remains. jim, this was after two separate incidents where live fire landed very close to the more than 100 experts, as well as our monitors that were brought in. now also, in the area surrounding the crash site, you have key cities, basically a dead zone right now and donetsk, lots of shel

osc monitors are atlas getting access to the crash site. >> a good reminder to viewers as well, so many different international issues that the president is juggling at this time. we have seen him come to the microphone as of late to talk mostly about what's happening in eastern europe. we have also seen him in a series of fund-raisers mentioning the lawsuit, for example, that was approved as far as the resolution in the house, there are domestic issues. the president, is he going to be staying in washington, d.c.? does he have further work being done in the white house? does he take time off? what can we expect? >> the president takes time off, has two week vacation scheduled for martha's vineyard that begins in about a week from now. the story is, and it is very true, the job follows the president wherever he is, and folks are likely to point out congress vacation is considerably longer, jenna. >> five weeks. all wish we could have that, don't we, wendal. that's one of the issues today to see if the house can get things done before recess. with the senate gone, doesn't look like any l

reports of this convoy, they have reached out to russia, as has the ukrainian government, as has the osce monitors and all of them have been asking for a detailed list of the contents of the trucks. that list as far as we know as of the last update has not arrived yet. the red cross, like all the other stakeholders here, wants to get humanitarian aid to the people who need it but they say it needs to be done the correct way. this convoy heading towards the border before there was an official agreement signed is why the red cross yesterday was saying they weren't aware. so they're now aware but they still have questions about the contents of the trucks that they're trying to get answered. meanwhile, as this is all happening, errol, there are protests at the ukrainian embassy in moscow. there are russian citizens who are actually arrested because they do not agree with the way the government is handling the situation. this happening as vladimir putin just today is expected to make a two-day trip to crimea. we all know what happened there. russia went in and annexed crimea. putin will be the

hardware and weapons to the rebels because border controls are only possible with participation of the osce. >> rory is live from minsk so what have we heard at the meeting so far? >> reporter: well, earlier on this afternoon there was a briefest of handshakes between pa porteshenko and putin and they had glances on the beaches of normandy commemorating d day there and they have is been in the same room and been able to exchange opinions with each other. they were doing that initially with several other presidents, with the president of balaruse and kazistana and catherine from the eu and ocouple other eu representatives here as well. we understand they have now, po port porteshenko are in a meeting and it's a chance for the two men essentially advisorys of the face of ukraine to properly discuss a way forward for that region. and we have also heard suggestions that these talks might stretch into a second day. >> so rory adverse reasons as you say but who has more leverage? >> well, i think you have to say over the short term looking at things as they stand at the moment, poroshenko probabl

bring in the osce spokesman for the ukraine monitoring mission. you have been there throughout. i am so glad your teams have finally been able to safely reach the wreckage. that has been a long time coming. day after day being turned back because of all of the violence. let's begin with this. what have your teams on the ground been able to find? >> thanks, poppy, good to be back with you. well, today was the second day where we had an unprecedented number of experts out there, over 100 australian and dutch experts in uniform with sniffer dogs and other equipment combing fields, and they for the second day did find more victim remains, and also there was an effort today to also go after some key evidence, some pieces of fuselage. that unfortunately didn't work out well, there was shelling in the area, but again, the most important thing today was to see all of that effort out there. you can imagine how the families feel now seeing that this huge effort is going on. >> we have some images to show our viewers. going to bring them on the screen as we talk about this. these photos co

joining me is osce spokesman to talk about this. last time we spoke you were in ukraine and you've been there several times in recent months. talk to us about how this situation has changed. has it gotten worse obviously? >> hi, brianna, good to be back to you. yes, there's definitely been an escalation in the violence. we now have a group of monitors from our special monitoring mission to ukraine in my real poll and they've just reported to us, in fact, just a few minutes ago, that there's definitely a lot of activity backing up what your correspondents have been saying in terms of ukrainian troops digging in and building military barriers and protection for themselves and in addition they spoke to ukrainian soldiers on the ground and i guess you could call it trepidation because of the sense we got was that they feel far more outdone and on the rebels' side they reported seeing tanks, armored personnel vehicles and missile launchers so it sounds like a very unbalanced situation right now on both sides. >> can you talk a little bit

russian ewe man tearan aid will be accompanied through the northeastern ewe krad to the city by osce representatives. this is according to the ukrainian mediator who is quoted by interfax. so this is the latest we're getting out of russia. remember the french foreign minister has said on tuesday this morning that the russian convoy of 280 trucks en route to ukraine could be an attempt by moscow to install a permanent presence in the country. it could be a cover for an incursion. >>> still coming up on the show, are the funding yields greener than the bond market? we investigate growing fixed incomes to finance the green economy. stay with us. in india we have 400 million people who don't have electricity and i just figured that it's time i do something about it. what we're doing right now, along with ibm, is to actually transfer data through a satellite from our wind farms directly onto the cloud. i think we could create a far more efficient system across the whole network where we could actually draw down different kinds of energy based on when it's needed by the consumer. a smarter

now, we have heard that the osce and the team of international investigators have arrived at the crash site for a second time. they have arrived 2 1/2 hours earlier than yesterday and looking to do limited searches today. it's not a full operation they are able to carry out. day by day, they are assessing the security on the ground. they could need to be out there for weeks to carry out the investigations they need. the priority is to bring home any remain that is have not been recovered from the site. >> of course stay safe in the process. that may be a complicating factor. >>> republican leaders in the house in a stand off with tea party supporters on immigration reform. in an effort to salvage a bill to address the border crisis. a thursday vote was canceled after opposition from tea party voters. the measure called for $659 million, a far cry from the $4 billion request. >> if we don't pass a bill, the president will do what he needs to do. the president would like to see us lead. >> what changes tomorrow, though, that wasn't there today? >> i hope some people grow up. >> like? >>

so, we are awaiting outcomes from the investigations now ongoing with osc, oig, and other parties. in some cases we have already announced personnel actions -- cheyenne, wy, and fort collins, co are cases in point. others will follow. in addition to leadership accountability issues, we're also addressing cultural issues and creating a more open v.a.: -- we've frozen vha central office and visn office headquarters hiring and suspended vha senior executive performance awards for fy 2014. v.a.'s now posting regular data updates showing progress in improving access to healthcare and making public additional care-quality statistics for every medical center. communication is key. sloan gibson and i have been making the rounds of vha medical centers and vba regional offices to get at the on-the-ground truth. over the past several weeks, i've been to our facilities in phoenix, las vegas, memphis, reno, and palo alto. later this week, i'll be in durham, north carolina. at every location, i've met with good people who spoke honestly -- from janitorial staff to medical center directors -- car

we are awaiting the outcomes of investigations now ongoing in the osc, the oic, and all other parties. in some cases, we have already announced personnel actions. in cheyenne, wyoming and fort collins, colorado, those are both examples. others will follow. in addition to leadership accountability issues, we are also addressing cultural issues, and we are creating a more open v.a. we have frozen bha's central office and -- vha's central office and visitor center. and we have suspended awards for 2014. the a is now posting regular updates showing progress and improvements in access to health care and making public additional quality statistics available for every medical center. communication is key. gibson and i have been making the rounds at medical centers and regional offers -- offices to get on the ground truth. over the past several weeks, i've been to facilities in phoenix, las vegas, memphis, reno, and palo alto. later this week, i will be back here in durham, north carolina. at every location, i've met with very good people who spoke honestly, from the janitorial service to the

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>> reporter: we understand from a tweet from the osce military mission arranging the access for dutch and australian police that they've returned to the site again today. 70 experts and 8 members of that monitoring team accompanied, it seems, by two sniffer dogs, there to try and assist in that sad task of finding more human remains that are still there. we know on the first day, two days ago, when a small recon team reached the site, they were able to table 25 samples of dna. we saw yesterday how the sad, tragic task of combing through that area and collecting what they can continued. there are refrigerated vans accompanies that group. that's the most urgent task, getting what remains of those victims from the field. personal belongings, too, being taken away, and then the more broad and frankly very complex task of the wreckage. what to do with it. what to document from it, who to leave in place or take back to work out definitively what caused it to fall out of the sky. obviously everybody saying it was a missile that hit them at 10,000 meters height, but today also, the front line

the osce. that's what we kept referring to, the observers, the best eyes on the ground, trying to keep the integrity of the scene in place, but harder and harder to balance. good to see you safe here. just the overlay for people, okay? it is getting worse and worse in the area surrounding the crash site what is it like to even try it approach it? >> that's why we had to suspend. it is getting worse because the front line has come right through that crash site. and we had to suspend our visits there a few days ago because there was shelling going on. we had more than 100 experts from two or three different countries there. and they were shooting the other day. so everyone, you know, realized that it is not worth it, proceeding with the humanitarian effort of looking for those human remains, looking for personal belongings of the passengers. so -- >> don't want to create more death in a situation where we're trying to go and deal with a death that occurred already. how frustrating is it for the i

declare concern about this humanitarian crisis unfolding in the southeast, he's also called for the osce to come in and do something to protect these separatists with the greater russian troops on the border, i think frankly, russia, ukraine is tending negative, there's a greater likelihood of direct russian intervention now than there has been at any point in this crisis and i would not be by this news. >> in the last 24, 48 hours it seems across wall street the expectations have shot up dramatically about russia going into ukraine. would you agree? >> yeah i think that's right. it's not planning for putin. he doesn't want to invade. he'd rather play the long game. wouldn't be popular in russia. would hurt him with the southeast ukrainian population. who hates kiev but doesn't want to see russian troops directly showing up, and obviously will hurt him with the europeans who have already intensified their sanctions. but he just put those sanctions tit for tat against the europeans, americans on food d anding ary culture. he has been avoiding doing that so he's girding himself for the lon