i started with a guy i had worked with a few years named ron alan, he's down in australia. he's kind of one of these genius guys and he quietly figured out many of the break through technologies. i figured just pay ron and a couple assistants for a few years and work out the hard problems before i get a big team up and running because that's when the cash starts flying out the door, you know. and ronnie figured it all out. there was a moment where we went to the next stage. from this moment on it's going to start really costing us money. a n d i decideed that that mile town what is when ronnie completed the sphere. >> rose: why is the story sphere. >> that's the best shape to take extreme pressure from outside. a cylinder won't work, cube won't work at all. so you only deal with a sphere. you need a deep submersible. >> rose: he designed the sphere that might have the possibility of withstanding the pressure at 35,000 feet. >> yes. he and i designed it together. he did all the hard yards of working with metallurgists. it wasn't exotic material we used a gun steel that was b

it relates to her trip on the river and ron schultz is ill should for this. he and treasury collaborated in doing -- ellen elaborate in going with reporter. this is an interesting page because she got the idea to do the book after hiking the trail when she saw enough of it to everybody her of a woman stretching across on this pilgrimage. when ron drew the map, and also this overlay, which is a woman superimposed on this. so as we close this page it shows the woman on the map in his interpretation. >> artist comes in with a vision and have the writing. and then also when you're working collaboration, ron schultz who did the illustration had both the inspiration of what she is telling in the writing but also his inspiration that he brings to become influenced by what she's describing to them. so than he does of the drawings and yes, that works. i like that. so it really is that collaborative. it's not just the arthur just -- author just writing have all book goes. there's that collaboration and then you each artist along the way, they are bringing in how they a