not react e pentagon to this danger? has been doing -- they have identified climate is a major issue, alternative power sources from types of different fuels to power our planes and their bases. the marines had a base on by hanistan which was run ultimate power sources. there is a lot being done, there is an office in the pentagon dedicated to this. four or five years they have been taking it pretty seriously. host: has the pentagon and is pected what the role a climate e with change disaster? whether some sort of situation they call the national guard, what has the pentagon envisioned? guest: they always provide humanitarian help when is needed. in 2007 and 2009 the military deploy ospreys to go do search acrosscue missions southeast asia. very much the u.s. military takes this job very seriously. they will continue to be doing it. >> and how much -- >> for years to come. comed where does the money from for disaster response? >> a lot of times, the money is taken out of -- it comes out of that base budget in the militar

the president want aid quieter pentagon. the president wanted a less demanding pentagon and with chuck hagel he got it. but what the president also got was a weaker united states. and that wasn't chuck hagel's fault. and it's not just about boots on the ground in syria or issues iraq, this is the entire world. this is putin going after ukraine. going after cremia. this is the president of china pushing its neighbors around. this is countries around. world taking advantage of what they see is open space being left by the administration that's not providing the leadership that the world needs. >> by it wasn't clear at any time with any of those places that, david, that david ablebly mentioned, mark what the united states' response was that. chuck hagel wasn't going to order an invasion of donetsk. >> hagel was the right guy at the right time two years ago. we were winding down two wars, we were dealing with a threat of sequestration to our military as well as other peelses of the government. but i talked to a recently retired

and what was best for the pentagon going forward. and after a series of those discussions, both men agreed that it was time for a leadership change here at the department and that's what drove the secretary to submit his resignation. he's fully supportive of this decision, and came to that same conclusion with the secretary. i might add, that he's not leaving today. he agreed to stay on until his successor is confirmed by the senate and installed here at the pentagon. so it could be quite some time before secretary hagel actually leaves the pentagon. he came right back to the pentagon after the white house ceremony and got right back to work. >> why is it time for the new leadership at the pebble beach? >> the secretary was brought in to affect some changes here and to help the pentagon transition after 13 years of war to a different kind of footing globally and a different kind of budget scenario than we faced in the past. he's done that. he also instituted more than a dozen reforms of all kinds of programs and initiatives here in t

the pentagon and u.s. military believes it's equally important or more important to rebuild that part of the equation than to you know go through the routine military training and e equipping but both of those pieces have to fall in place and you heard secretary, you heard general dempsey rather than the end say we just don't know how much that is going to work and how long it's going to take. so it's a strategy that is built on a lot of moving parts and a lot of things that the pentagon cannot control and so they are warning this is going to take quite some time. this is not a solution that is going to take months, it's going to take years. >> jamie is standing by and our senior washington correspondent is at the capitol this morning and mike is the white house concerned about the new republican-led congress that will be taking the oath of office in january and pushing in iraq are they convinced the new congress will have the patience to wait this campaign out? >> well, there is certainly going to be a mo

let's get to the pentagon and barbara starr. although the white house is saying it was a mutual decision, you say it's not? >> well, carol, good morning. the white house and officially here at the pentagon the sword it was a mutual decision between the president and secretary hagel for the secretary to go. but in reality, the political reality, several officials now tell us here at cnn is that hagel basically was forced out, pushed out, whatever you want to call it. the secretary and the president had been talking over the last several weeks about what the president wanted to see in the final two years of his administration in national security. they had been talking about it and, you know, once you start talking about the future, it opens the door to all of these issues of stay or go. there had been a lot of chatter about all of this, that the president wanted to make a change in personnel, that he wasn't happy with his national security team, and when you look at the three key players, you have susan rice, the national securit

fact that did he not have the kind of institutional knowledge of the pentagon was huge hinderance. in order to tame the pentagon which is part of the of what the defense sect you need to know the building, ashton carter may know it better. >> definitely knows it better. >> another important thing is this person has to gets confirmed ashton carter when he left the pentagon, john mccain incoming chairman of the armed services said glowing things that is helpful for administration try to get somebody through. >> o'donnell: let's turn to some of the challenges that president obama is facing with the final two years in office. first of course ferguson, john, you were down there. should the president go to ferguson, do you think he'll go there? >> yes, i think he should go. i don't know if he will go i'm surprised he hasn't gone already. one of the cases where the president has -- felt imposed tight rope on matter of race. pretty much through the entire six years. he's no longer facing re-election she be freed from r where he can go -- i think what the president has been has been in the

the pentagon has rejected that conversation. others say even in his very low-key way, he is being extraordinarily successful in the e department. how do you guys grade how cck hagel is going? >> he tually could get along with senator mccain. they are both were veterans. they are both war heroes. they served together for a long time. it seems like this is a moment in which he could be more useful to the administration then he has been. -- if thenstituency president t is happy with him, e is sticking by through the last day. it is a thankless job that no one would want right now. it is still a defense drawdown. he's got no happy yes's cing wn to his own forces and troops. we should all be grateful that he wants to keep this job and ststick with it. this is the next two pivotal yes to maintain and manage. >> in my view,agel gets an incomplete. he gets an incomplete at this point. he understands the problems internally in the pentagon of what needs to be done. the question is, he's going to make it stick. as long as you are allowing

diiher key part of the strategy is institutional reform to make the pentagon more agile. here to talk about the dii and what new leadership at the department will mean, our two analysts, each of whom has a slightly differing view. fitzgerald is the director of the tecechnology and national security program at e center security.american bob is a former acting undersecretary of the navy who fellow at ther center for strategic and budgetaryssessments. interestingly, deputy secretary showork, who was on our last week, is the architect of the third offset strategy and csba in the past. both ben and bob have worked for work. no pun intended. gentlemen, welcome to the show. hagel is leaving the pentagon. what's his departure, do you going to mean for this strategy? does this strategy outlast him? as what do you think, someone who did work for him in the department, his legacy is going to be at the department? his legacypart of will be his managing the department think a very tumultuous period and working through all of that. in a series of institutional reforms to try to make th

military and against the pentagon. and quite frankly, officials here just didn't think he was up to that task. >> jim, do we know what the president is considering the future for the head of dod? >> two that we considered previously when first bob gates and then leon panetta left the job, and they are former under secretary and former deputy secretary of defense ashton carter. at this point, two years left in the obama administration and two wars essentially, and all those budget complications, i would doubt that the white house would want a new person in here they would want somebody with some experience, knows how this place works, runs. both the military and the pentagon. so i think you'd have to put your money on flonoi or carter at this point. >> jim, thank you for being with me. joining me now, our correspondent who has covered the middle east extensively. good morning. >> i think there's going to be a lot of questions about whether the syria policy, the military involvement involvement, is going to play a factor

chuck hagel is out after his 20 months after the pentagon. is he the fall guy for the white house's failed foreign policy? plus, nuclear negotiations are extended again, giving iran seven more months to build a bomb and from national security setbacks to his go it alone government, is president obama hurting hillary clinton's chances in 2016? >>> welcome to the journal editorial report. defense secretary chuck hagel resigned after swrus 20 months, reportedly pushed out by president obama. in a move that further consolidates national security decision making in the white house. and raises questions about the direction of the administration's foreign policy last two years. for more, i'm joined by "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor, dan hen ger, brett stevens and matt. many on the right and the left in talking about hagel's resignation, basically say the problem with obama's foreign policy isn't hagel. wasn't hagel. it's in the white house. >> the thing is, chuck hagel's really a nonentity as chief in the pentagon. he started out

>> as you suggested, some officials here at the pentagon. they had the meetings over several weeks and hagel's idea. i'm told that in fact as you mentioned that hagel was forced out of a job. one of the problems with being there currently is the white house is micromanaging everything that happens at the pentagon. it was difficult for them to do under robert gates. almost impossible to do as we have seen in his book with leon panetta. they saw hagel as an easy target and easily manipulated. even people here in the building thought it was an uneasy fit from the beginning. there were questions being raised here. is he set up as a sacrificial lamb for what some think is a challenged foreign policy out of the white house. >> only last week on pbs with charlie rose. >> i am immense low grateful to work every day for the country and the men and women who served this country. i don't get up every morning worrying about my job. it's not unusual to change teams at different times. >>a i foreshadowing. he was asked about chuck hagel, the fellow senato

>> i'm not sure how much support he had in the house at the pentagon. he was not going to go down as one of the stronger secretaries of defense. again, he was immaterial to the failures because the foreign policy is so centralized and the reason they pushed him out because he was not the yes man they thought they were putting in -- >> exactly. >> and was pushing back at the end and was frustrated but had no ip influence. >> he said -- spoke up and said with chairman dempsey that isis was a bigger threat than the white house was admitting and pushed back on syria, said we need to get clarity if we succeed against isis and the white house didn't like that. >> that's absolutely true. you can give him a point or two for seeing the light. this was an incompetent secretary of defense who had his agenda, mainly a personal agenda to serve in the office and incomprehend national security office and the two didn't get along. this could be an opportunity for the president to pivot on defense issue and national security and choose a strong capable secretary of defe

while it was called mutual, word around the pentagon resignation was not his idea. our report tonight from nbc correspondent jim miklaszewski. >> reporter: less than two years on the job, a somber chuck hagel flanked by president obama and vice president biden, announced today he was calling it quits. >> i have today submitted my resignation as secretary of defense. it's been the greatest privilege of my life. >> reporter: the white house and pentagon claim after a series of three recent meetings with the president, it was hagel who offered to step aside. but senior defense officials tell nbc news hagel was forced to resign. as the war with isis exploded in iraq and syria, the white house appeared to lose confidence in hagel as he questioned the administration's strategy. after president obama called isis the junior varsity of terrorists, hagel warned the militant force was a potential serious threat to the u.s. >> they're beyond just a terrorist group. this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. >> reporter: if the white house is fru

bill: you say they both fight for more spending in the pentagon? another big development that goes hand-in-hand with this one, a combat role will continue for another year in afghanistan and the president explaining that about-face. >> that about-face and what is happening in the middle east with isis. increases of noncombat forces supposed to be training the iraq military be at they still haven't been able to stand up and fight. it is not clear to me and many others what an additional eight rental forces going to do. bill: you have said it you felt that way from the beginning, do you think it is because he has been a poor manager, or is it he is taking marching orders from a commander in chief who he does not see eye to eye with? >> a lot of it has to do with capitol hill. they have a big role in capitol hill. how do you bring them along on america's pivot to asia. his replacements have been. the other thing is doing within his own department kid deal with military, how to work with them to get what they feel they have achieved mission and negotia

he's the former number two person at the pentagon. someone who people know well and there's jack reed from rhode island. well known on defense matters up on capitol hill. those are the three names. >> let me go back to here. seven air strikes just today in iraq. five air strikes near mosul. you heard the time line that mark murray explained to us here. obviously the air strikes will continue but this is a critical time in this campaign to have this transition of power in a hostile away. he's not resigning because he wants to leave the job. >> right. i think in the last couple of weeks we've been hearing the term about boots on the ground. i think it's giving people a moment of pause. when the campaign start what we are hearing coming out of the pentagon is it's going to be a mostly a military aerial campaign. there was a concern that an aerial campaign was not going to be enough. we're hearing the slow, gradual push. people are questioning do we need to have boots on the ground. are we achieving anything? the air strikes are still goi

that's why you've seen how they managed the pentagon now. you've seen how reticent they are to put troops in. i don't -- i wonder if in 10, 15 years a former president obama looks back and maybe people in his administration say, of the 130 -- of that surge necessary? could you have accomplished the same goals with, say, 25,000, and a counterterrorism strategy? i think those are the type of assessments they're making now. >> let's look ahead. write me your sequel now. we're at a moment where now republicans are ascend ant again, just having taken control of the senate. how do you think the president spends his next two years? >> well, i think he's going to be as far as we're concerned, the way we cover him, i think we're going to cover him more on the foreign policy front. that's where he's going to be, you know, sort of -- he's the executive and is going to be exercising his power. i think what he should be focusing on what i keep coming back to is sort of the backdrop of his presidency is now going to be seen as this. the backdrop of our wh

. >> we have jamie mcintyre, an expert on all things pentagon. the cabinet is now assembled in the dining room in the white house. do we have a sense as to whether or not haig cycle resigning, or that was he forced out? >> reporter: well, you know, technically he's not being fired. he's resigning. up actually the president asks fo for your resignation, and then he's forced out. he's serving for president, and if the president loses confidence. he lost confidence in chuck hagel, he asked for the retirement, and he gets it. this seems to be a surprise, even to hagel himself, who was just asked on the charlie rose show on pbs whether he had the confidence of the president, and he said he thought he did. >> should we have been reading the tea leeches differently? --the tea leaves differently? he went to visit the troops last week, and isn't that something that would take place closer to the holidays? 123,478 as a former enlisted man, he sometimes seemed most comfortable when he was with the troops, and less comfortable defending the administration's

our barbara starr has the latest information from the pentagon. jim acosta is joining us from the white house. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is joining us. he's in vienna, austria, right now covering the u.s./iranian nuclear talks. we're standing by for our chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. jim, you're working your sources over there. a lot of sensitivity, the president will presumably down play this notion that hagel is being forced out, pushed out. what are you hearing? >> i'm hearing from defense officials that this was mutual. that's a consistent line. i know that others are hearing he was pushed out and, to be frank, there had been talk of dissatisfaction from the white house with secretary hagel for some number of weeks. now, to be fair, that criticism does not only go in one direction. fact is, in the halls of the pentagon you will hear frustration with the white house, with lack of strategic planning, with micromanagement and that's, frankly, a criticism that i've heard, wolf, outside of the pen

at least not a personnel problem in the pentagon. each a now secretary of defense has to keep with the president's policies and that's where the short comings have been and problematic because there are hundreds of anonymous national security officials who are trying to micromanage every decision in the pept gone. how to fight a war and how many people to fight the war and weapons you need to fight a war. that is micromanaged by people with no military background. >> they are not in that spot. they are served as armed chair general and in the comfort of the excutive office and not over at the pentagon. can the president find someone more agreeably with his policies to do the job of chuck hagel? >> no, he either finds a yes, man and then the policys continue to flounder or you find someone with credibility and serious and give him serious and straight advice. and the then is will he take that advice. and it is one of the most important things he would do in the next two years. last four years of the foreign policy is determined by mil

mechanics of the pentagon and how it works. i do not think there would be a cause role or political issue because she is a female. of course, there are some dynamics going on at the pentagon inside of the military community. the services are in the process of integrating women into combat roles. that progress is underway. there is a push to stamp out the military,aults in the so she could be well-suited to speak to those issues. i think she is a safe bet on earning coming up as a nominee. .ost: linda fresno, california, on our line for democrats. caller: good morning. i have some concerns regarding the issues the secretary would face, especially with regard to the middle east. are we missing the vote with understanding -- missing the boat with understanding cultural factors in this part of the world? when gingrich was in the house and he goaded clinton into forth, basis and so forth,and so understanding islam and how it works -- i think there should be a melding between the secretary of state and the secretary of defense. guest

jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. do we know when secretary hagel's problems at the white house first started? >> well, shep, according to hill sources, the defense secretary went to the president in october when the first news reports began to appear suggesting the president was considering shaking up his national security team after the mid-term elections. hagel will stay on as defense secretary until a replacement is confirmed. today he hosted this honor corps and at the pentagon after the president made the announcement in august hagel got ahead of the white house on another key policy issue, how to deal with isis. >> this is beyond anything that we have seen. so, we must prepare for everything, and the only way you do that is you take a cold, steely hard look at it, and get ready. >> that was back in august when the president was determining what the strategy against isis would be. now the question is, will the president choose a wartime defense secretary or a budget cutter, shep. >> all of this aside, to those w

in the pentagon. and it doesn't reach as effectively as you would prefer the edges of this organization. so from my perspective, the fact that secretary of defense is stepping down for whatever reasons, the larger challenge has been stated by peter and mark, the disconnect that exists obviously within the administration in terms of what it is they're trying to achieve and how they want to try to achieve it. and we haven't seen clarity in those, in the execution of those policies, and that's the real issue i'm sure secretary hagel said look, i stated my opinion, i said what i think needs to be done and i'm going ask hard questions, obviously that got you should the skin of several folks. and so he'll be departing, which is unfortunate. we handle transitions, that's what the military can do. we can work our way through this. this is not a significant issue. but the department of defense will be okay. >> i hope so. thanks to all of our analysts and correspondents who contributed to this fascinating discu

we have live updates from the pentagon and the white house. we will also speak to a defense department former insider rosa brooks who has a firsthand take on one of the names topping that list for secretary hagel. >> let's start with jim miklaszewski. jim, defense and told you that the white house lot of confidence in hagel. tell us about that. >> this didn't come as a shock to many here in the pentagon. many thought it was only a matter of timing. because they felt that it was an uneasy fit from the time that secretary hagel came here into the pentagon. many thought he was way too compliant and did not challenge the white house strongly enough on many foreign policy issues. they thought it was inevitable that at sometime, the white house would replace hagel. some believed that the timing after the mid-term elections was to avoid any political fallout during the elections as if that made any kind of difference. i can tell you that at the same time there many who speak of the way the white house has micromanaged the pentagon from the very begin

the pentagon spokesperson, rear admiral john kirby will join us live. talk about what it means for the fight against isis and the withdrawal of most u.s. forces from afghanistan, but not all in the nation's largest war and that -- on top of that, our own jonathan hunt, our resident briton, a huge, human development for him. he is not a briton anymore. the whole deal about jonathan hunt and his new-found mannerism. that's coming up, top of the hour. >> the great thing is he is still going to have his accent. >> i hope some his wife insists. >> i love that accent. all right, shep, thanks. >>> university of virginia fraternity suspended over serious allegations stemming from an incident that took place years ago. >>> plus, a candid confession at the scene of a raging house fire. who is now saying to the press, yeah, i did it? >>> and what the heck is this? the rare sighting far below the ocean's surface. it looks scary, but wait until you hear what i'm gonna say about it. you won't believe it. 5mj4(p&c ... ...i] publishe1Ñie1 can óqoqúúÑ@ ... ... >>

the pentagon says there have been 883 u.s. air strikes on isis fighters, safe houses and vehicles in iraq and syria. the reported cost since air strikes began, $300,000 an hour. but the effectiveness of the air campaign is more difficult to quantify. new data obtained by nbcnews.com shows that isis attacks are actually on the rise. >> isis attacks have been increasing steadily. particularly since the fall of mosul and then again increasing further since the beginning of the air strikes. >> reporter: the respected uk-based terrorism insurgency center says there were just over 100 attacks in june and then again in july. in august when u.s. air strikes began, the number actually jumped to 171 and stayed relatively high in september and october. >> in response to the air strikes it's intensified its insurgency. >> reporter: as we saw firsthand in syria, air strikes have played a major role in the recent battle for kobani. but as u.s. military officials have said from the beginning, without an effective ground force, they aren't en

the pentagon is a knowledge in that. it is a big al. our main challenge for washington, d.c is s that he announced this initiative inin silin valley. akinthe point that is where they see innovation. >> that is the message we are trying t to spread. we have more softwarere enginees silicon valley. nontraditional innovation happens in northern virginia every day. >>he pentagon says they are frustrated with some of their bigger contractors. theyrch and delopment -- say they mht reward companies that plow more money into r&d. >> defense contracting in thee u.s., the defense strategy overall is due for a reset. we wilbe rethinking our structur in terms of getting more of whwhat we have with chia and russia pulling lots ofig reurces. the trick is to leverage the innovation from thprivate sector. you are not paying for everhing you usese, because it is being developed forwo purposes. >>>> explain this to me. one of the comments on "the wall street journal" said, we have an agency that exists for that, darpa, created in the 1950's so weould be

it reportedly has more than 45 m16's that it bought at discount from the pentagon. the new york types says maryland's police force has the second largest arsenal of any college campus nationwide. >>> two police officers are on leave in cleveland after the shooting death of a 12 year old african american. they opened fire on tamir rice, who had an air gun that looked like the real thing. the shooting happened this weekend outside a cleveland recreation center, after less received a 911 call. >> the officers ordered him to stop and to show his hands and he went into his wasteband and pulled out the weapon. >> the attorney for the victims family is down playing any possible racial connections to the shooting. the counties prosecutors office is still investigating, however. >>> coming up on wusa 9 from faulty ignition switches to exploding airbags this is the year of the recall in the auto industry. a closer look at those >>> welcome back. the auto industry is in crisis mode after the news we've reported faulty airbags have slashed, blinded, killed dozens of drivers. ja

aye been a total pentagon reporter. between the pentagon and the white house. and it almost feels as if we're going back to what's normal there. what a pentagon insider you have become. my congratulations on a complete scoop. what was your reaction to not just the decision but the d.a.'s handling during the investigation and last night. zblf the the decision was not a surprise at all. this is what i expected to happen at all. it's rare for police officers to be indicted, let alone tried and convicted of killing people. i was reading about horrible instants out of seattle. where it's just hard to indict a cop. >> and even when the facts are egregio egregious. you go back to 1979. arthur mcduffy not long before christmas, beaten to death by a group of police officers who cracked his skull open. no conviction there. you can go through. patrick shot dead by a police officer who insisted he was a drug dealer, even though he was just a security guard killed in front of other people. and still no indictment there, and in fact, his jufl record thrown out to the public.

and the white house but between the pentagon and state department, home and security, fbi. you would expect that there will be large interagency and very discussions about this. >> still do not understand. i understand what you said about things change and making a change over the next two years because the agenda and the issues have changed since he first went into office. what i do not understand is why does that mean he had to go? why did secretary hagel not believe he could stay and do the job and adapt to those changes? why couldn't he fight for himself to stay? why doesn't he want to stay? >> he had several discussions with the president. the secretary and president both agreed that two years was about the right time for him. this is the appropriate time to step down. he had accomplished a lot in those two years. i would advise you that he is still the secretary of defense. he has put into place many reforms that will strengthen the institution going forward and has made quite a bit of progress in defense diplomacy. this was the appropriate time. it is not uncommon, a

the pentagon today, however, responded to all of that with constraint. almost passivity to this latest round of provocative actions by president putin. pentagon spokesman colonel steve warren said, quote -- for more now on russia's growing military presence and provocations, we're joined by retired three star army lieutenant general daniel bol jer and the author of the book, why we lost, insider's account of the iraq and afghanistan wars. general, thanks for being with us here. congratulations on the book. we are recommending this book highly to our audience. >> thank you. lou: very important, i believe, message for everyone. to today's and tonight's developments. russia. there seems to be a hesitancy within the administration, within the pentagon, to call the insertion of russian troops into ukraine an increation, why is that? >> i don't understand that. we should remember the russians are one of the countries that has the capability at any time to launch a nuclear attack and destroy our country. they have the missiles, the submarines, the aircraft, you

st with the very late breaking word that the pentagon is really skeptical. saying saying iraq doesn't have the forceses to -- >> first of all, yes, we have all the reasons the pentagon, and other sources have all the reason to be skeptical because of presence dense, it's not the first time that iraqi authors, iraqi officials have said that something happened that did not happen. if a video appears later in the chatroom realize that he was not neither wounded or killed, or only woungded not killed, we will know. so it's only a question of days to verify that. >> we traded e-mails and a couple of things stuck out in your notes, and one, i saw you on greta last week, you were saying that pretty much experts thought that the headquarters for isis was inside syria. does this mean that those reports were wrong and that in fact they're headquartered still in iraq? >> we have to learn how to -- the pentagon of that movement is in iraqi and syria. it's open information. but will he be sitting at a desk inside that building, probably not. the story that he may have be

former deputy here at the pentagon. very well regarded, but very little experience on the world stage. could he do the job? absolutely. is he seen essentially as a government bureaucrat? absolutely. jeh johnson, you see him there on the left. he is currently the secretary of the department of homeland security. he used to be the general council, the top lawyer at the pentagon. very experienced, qualified to hand the bureaucracy, but he too comes with a bit of political baggage. he's been the architect of the president's executive action on immigration. it could open him up to a lot of questions in a confirmation hearing. one of the big issues right now is secretary hagel and his two predecess predecessors, secretary gates and secretary panetta all complained about white house micromanagement, a very major issue for someone, anyone that wants to take the job. brianna? >> certainly would be. and we're also hearing this name floated by keeping in mind texas senator ted cruz, a republican. he's floated the idea of former se

a pentagon inspector general report says 15,600 items disappeared in 2013 at bagram and kandahar, it says army officials did not disclose that fact and did not consider the inventory lost. for missing tools and weapons to found baby chicks. a woman here in d.c. got a package from an ex-boyfriend. it contained 15 live baby chicks, a note attached said this, there are a lot of other chicks out there. in another indication of what may have been doomed about this relationship, the woman told her mail carrier she would throw the chicks in the garbage, fortunately he took them to the humane society instead where they are said to be in good shape tonight. >>> the american military has long been dominated on both the ocean surface and in it's depths, but that could be changing. jennifer griffin with an alarming story tonight. >> reporter: it sounds like a tom clans si plot, last year with little fanfare, china sent a submarine to the indian ocean undetected for the first time. the chinese submarine -- days later, another chinese submarine known as a hunter killer surfaced in the persian gulf

he also wants broad reforms to strengthen the pentagon to improve agility. a key facet of the initiative is designed to counter or offset the technological advances of u.s. foes. the first offset strategy came during the cold war. u.s. leaders wanted to counter conventional forces with nuclear weapons. in the second offset strategy, the pentagon invested in stealth, gps and other technology. they imposed enormous costs soviet union. critics say the strategy is too disjointed and china also has cutting-edge technology and manufacturing experience. joining us to explain the dod initiative and what it means i s one of t key architects, and deputy defense secretary bob worth. strategist, what are the biggest threats and trends that america's national security enterpriseust prepare for as it looks to the future? >> that's a good question. first our state powers. are both on the un security council, both have nuclea weapons, both have regional aspirations and some global aspirations. how do we deal with those two powers? that is going to increasingly take a lot of

congressman, your reaction, if you would, to the pentagon spokesman when asked yesterday if secretary hagel supported the army quarantine policy issued by general odierno. take a listen, if you would. >> the secretary supports the decision that was made for general williams and his team. he's not going to oppose at this time the decision made by army leadership for all soldiers. >> that's a seemingly slap at the joint chiefs before implementing his recommendation, congressman. your reaction to it? >> well, as you know, i will criticize the secretary of defense when i think it's appropriate, but in this particular situation, i think he's doing the right thing to follow the recommendations of his military officers for a couple reasons. one, i think it's important that we listen to the military advice that he's been given, unlike what the president's been doing. but the second thing is i think the protection and safety of those troops has to be foremost for him and in front of every decision he makes. i also don't disapprove of him relooking this policy 45 days down the road if the milit

with andrew tilghman is is atary times" he pentagon reporter. how surprised were you by the news yesterday? not surprised. this was under discussion for a few weeks and it was conventional wisdom secretary hagel's days were numbered. host: explain the timing coming just a couple of weeks after the midterm election. guest: the timing did surprise me. i was not expecting it to happen yesterday. -- after theing on election there was a sense the administration wanted to have a shakeup or at least the appearance of a shakeup of the national security team. the president is coming toward the end of his second term and there is only so much time left. it is hard to get someone to take the job unless you give them a certain amount of time to settle in and get something done. if the president waited another six months, it would be hard to find a successor to take the job at the pentagon for potentially 18 months. right now it looks like the follow-on secretary will have the most two years. host: was this a mutual decision, or was secretary hagel pushed ou

the pentagon officials can't confirm that. i'll have more on the confusion that led to this moment. >>> even if a strike did hilt the leader this terror group appears to be gaining followers. not losing them, gaining them. egypt's most dangerous militant group today reportedly pledged its allegiance as a whole to isis. it could be a big boost for isis, marking an expansion of the group outside iraq and syria. we have team fox coverage. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon but let's begin with catherine herridge in d.c. officials say they see nothing to suggest that this isis leader, baghdadi, is either killed or wounded. >> defense and intelligence officials are still assessing the fallout but see nothing to suggest al-baghdadi was critically injured or killed. with the death any major terrorist leader u.s. officials expect heightened chatter among the leader's followers and caters that the identification of a successor is underway. neither are true in the case. >> the department of defense and intelligence officials loor

the pentagon provided 118 million in nonlethal aid. but included radios and body armor and first aid. the white house feared that providing lethal aid would be a proxy war. and now the administration is signaling vladimar putin that his venturism must stop. >> jennifer, thank you. >> the pentagon releasing new video of war planes pounding isis target. hear what our next guest say about. that >> police are on the look out for packages mailed from the florida university shooter hoping to get a clue to his motive. >> he asked for our information because he was sending a manifesto or what he was sending. what we hope is why he choose to do this. art health. heart: i'm going to focus on the heart. i minimize my sodium and fat... gotta keep it lean and mean. pear: uh-oh. heart: i maximize good stuff like my potassium... and phytosterols, which may help lower cholesterol. major: i'm feeling energized already. avo: new delicious ensure active heart health supports your heart and body, so you stay active and strong. ensure. take life in. the ul

and i want to thank the entire leadership team at the pentagon. without their support and wise counsel over the last couple of years, our many accomplishments the president noted some, i have been part of that, but it is a team, all these tremendous men and women as you know that make this happen, and i could not be prouder of them and what we have accomplished over the almost two years i've had the honor of serving in this position. as the president noted, i have smitty did my resignation of secretary of defense. it has been the greatest privilege of my life, the greatest privilege of my life to lead and most important to serve, to serve with the men and women of the defense department and support their families. i'm immensely proud of what we have accomplished during this time. we have prepared ourselves as a president has noted and national security forces for successful transition in afghanistan. we bolstered enduring alliances and strengthened emerging partnerships while successfully responding to crises around the world. and we have launched

i think he was thinking of the pentagon. i think he hopes someone like michelle can give him the answers. mccain wants to go to war everywhere. he wanted to send troops into nigeria to rescue the girls. so i hope whoever takes the position is not listening to john mccain. >> but can he influence the president's decision here? >> i think he will have a lot of influence on who gets confirmed. but now that he really does have the power, with it comes the level of responsible he didn't have when he was on the outside. >> what is that? >> he doesn't want to leave the united states without a secretary of defense in these times. he may have a list, but i think the president will be in the best position -- >> and hagel's legacy. what does he leave behind? >> a mess. not of his doing, but one that he couldn't begin to fix. >> but if he couldn't fix it -- it is just about energy and bandwidth here? >> i think those are relevant, but i don't think he -- he had the record as a soldier, but not an the administrator of the pentagon. >> is