and north vietnam. that in north vietnam, hanoi's leaders are having to make decisions about supporting an insurgency in the south to reunify this country in the aftermath of a long and bloody colonial conflict, or anticolonial conflict. and also build their own stable nation in the north. and that is a debate, again, brings this up in hanoi's war. that others are constantly having to make choices between building a political, a stable political community in the north and feeding and reinforcing the southern insurgency in the south. so in the aftermath of the american war in 1975, that takes on a regional aspect as they now not only have to balance the problems of reintegrating southerners into vietnam, some of the southerners who obviously fought against communists. but also now have to deal with a very unstable cambodia and have to deal with a china that is increasingly aggressive. so it's not as easy, i think, for the hanoi bureau coming out of the american phase of the vietnam war to simply call it

we did not win in vietnam. if you look at cambodia, laos and vietnam itself they had the potential to be like south korea is today. they are not and they've lived through poverty and death multiplied many times, but as far as the issue about nationalism, nationalism was the only mode we could use as we did -- as we must do in iraq and afghanistan and to defeat islam and, b, communism. we had to have something to counter those religions and they were very, very powerful. i mean, i just looked at the film and they're talking in france about, you know, the preparation for riding which happened in '68 and it was in england and it was in the united states massively. it's extremely difficult to go against in a powerful religion like communism and islam and as you said, we should have -- we should have highlighted -- we should have promoted nationalism, but it's the only counter and i cannot see any other way of doing it. >> i think that brings up an important question for any strategist, either civilian or military i

david petraeus who did his own doctoral work at princeton on vietnam. my doctoralal work at oxford led to my first book. the generation of army officers was fascinated by how the army had done so badly in vietnam, how the world's greatest power had been defeated in the small war. and so military successful political was lost. >> did we really militarially lose it? >> there is a story about a colonel talking about the paris peace negotiations and harry told the colonel you know you never defeated us on the battlefield and the colonel responded that may be true but completely irrelevant to what we are talking about. war is ultimately succeed or failed as whether the nations fail political objectives. we approached the war too much like a conventional war focused on killing the enemy rather than providing security in the villages which is ultimately what would determine where the people held their allegiance. >> the first gulf war was in some ways about overwhelming force. in this case overlearning the lessons of vietnam and it worked. >> it worked remarka

vietnam was becoming more intense. the civil rights movement have moved through much of the sludge of the moment. completelypuses were embroiled in what was going on in the world. in october, dow chemical company based in michigan was one of the many corporations visiting the university wisconsin campus to try to recruit students to work there after they graduated. it was a process that went on every year. when the 19 city seven fall semester started, the antiwar , probably a few hundred people that were activists , held a protest could there have been one the previous spring. it was not as significant as what would happen on october 18. we plan to hold an act of civil disobedience and stage a sit in in madison. >> october 1967 has been referred to as the dow demonstration. dow chemical had been to the university of wisconsin to recruit the previous spring. they came back in the fall of 1967 and were notorious as the manufacturers of napalm. we planned a two day demonstration. the first day was going to be an informati

they had hit dozens of cities all over vietnam. it was a tremendous shock. >> we have known for several months now that the communist planned a massive, winter-spring offensive. we do not think that our military operations are going to be at all materially affected. >> he was unable to be honest with the american people, because, of course, he was unwilling to simply say, this is an unwinnable war. >> cronkite's vietnam report, reel one, take four. >> these ruins are in saigon, capital of the largest city of south vietnam. >> when he went to vietnam during tet, it was the first time, and maybe the only time, that walter had shown any kind of bias in his public broadcast. >> it is increasingly clear to this report, that the only rational way out would be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy and did the best they could. >> after walter cronkite, johnson's popularity sinks. >> to most ordinary citizens, it's become obvious the war is not being won. >> opposition to t

>> i'll come back to vietnam, always. cheers, everybody, and thank you, all of you, for all of your help. >> cheers one more time. ♪ >> this is who came out of the ground, out of the jungle, the darkness, when it was all over. and this is what they did. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> 1969, seven brutal murders, seven innocent lives taken, one crazed mastermind. >> we got to get out of here, the cops are going to be here. he said yeah, you're right. >> a man who redefined the word "evil." >> charles manson was born evil. >> and transformed a group of young girls into vicious killers. >> i fall in love with him continuously.

went back to vietnam, i had the 105 artillery battery. of course, the troops were in all and i got them together and said, ok. i earned the medal of honor the first time. i'm here as a captain now. a battery commander. i have a mission. i'm your leader. i'm going to give the orders. you listen to them. i'm going to tell you that you will have visitors come to this that are he because of this. not because of captain barnum. captain barnum happens to have the medal of honor. believe me, you are going to get sick of it. and they all sort of told me they thought that was pretty funny. they had to keep it policed up because they never knew when a general was going to stop in or a movie star or football fan. but on into the battle they learned real quick i stood up for them. and i think the day i turned the battle is the chief of staff of the marine corps was visiting a fire base. and the order was the uniform will be bush hats. i had been trying to get bush hats and green t-shirts under utility uniform for two months. trying to get them. they

when i came to vietnam in 1967, i couldn't findç vietnam on a map. i came here because i'm a veteran of the war and ended up staying, working on humanitarian projects related to the consequences of the war, which isç unexploded ordinates. >> reporter: more than 100,000 veements have been killed or maimed by uxos since the end to have the war in 1975. here in quang tri, the zone that separated south and north vietnam, more bombs are believed to have been dropped than in all europe during world war, two many cluster bombs containing hundreds of small but lethal bomblets that were supposed to have explodedç on impact. >> the defense department estimates 10% did not detonate as designed so when they fell to the ground intact, now, today, 40 years later, they're exploding and kill and maim people. >> reporter: aç community newspaper publisher and small business administrator in washington after the war, searcy first came back to vietnam in 191992 as a tourist. he moved to hanoi nearly 20 years ago to work with american veterans organizations on rest

lots of issues in vietnam as well. the book is two parts pragmatist. one of the things i'm proudest of is the degree to which you in the book with current application fort bragg and from afghanistan. this twist, the title of the panel, politics, like outlook and tactics. it's proportionality that determines how those things in relate and we come out on a particular issue. one of the great scholar said that the term itself is clunky and inexpressive and this book is her answer to try to grab the clunkiness and inexpressive the other term. there is. but it took a whole book to do it. the concept of proportionality is hard in a sense partly because it's express the because it's always very context specific so context matters which is why to to take the time to really get the depth of where it comes from and what it means and how it's been twisted over time in terms of meanings. the danger in that is is always use in a highly emotional, highly emotive, highly politicized or highly charged atmosphere. marine rifleman in fallujah, but on employers with them.

in vietnam, don became known as one of the most liked and eliable guys in his company. twice in his first months his patrol was ambushed. he responded with punishing fire from his machine gun, leaving himself vulnerable to the enemy. both times, he was recognized for his bravery. or as don put it in a letter home, i guess they think i'm really gung ho or something. then they set out past that paddy, when those shots rang out. when the lead soldier's foot tripped that wire and set off the booby trap. the grenade rolled right to don's feet. and at that momenting -- at that moment, he could have run. at that moment he could have ducked for cover. but don did something truly extraordinary. he reached down and he picked that grenade up and he turned to throw it but there were americans in front of him and behind him, inside the kill zone so don held on to that grenade. he pulls it close to his body and he bent over it. and then as one of the men said, all of a sudden, there was a boom. the blast threw the lead soldier up against a boulder. men were riddled with shrapnel. fou

and the bombing of north vietnam because he wanted to continue. he knew that if it became widely and fully known how much he was going to have to spend on this war, that they would cut back on his beloved social programs, and he wanted to get them entrenched and on the way before people became fully aware of the war. c-span: i mean, a lot of what you write about is rolling thunder, the bombing of the north. this is again '65, from his news conference. what i'm getting at here is a little bit of what we're hearing today about iraq. "we just cannot now dishonor our word or abandon our commitment or leave those who believed in us and trusted us to the terror and repression and murder that would follow." this is talking about leaving vietnam back then. did all that happen when we left? >> guest: no -- well, obviously, they're one of our great business partners. c-span: but i... >> guest: now. c-span: i mean, we hear this -- i mean, there's a theme through all this. you hear politicians talking about this. and i wonder if we ever learn anything from hi

he gives this speech about beyond vietnam. that america is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today and what he called a racism,hreat -- poverty, and militarization will ship --was there in the video? >> there's audio of the entire peoplebut the video, came and got some [indiscernible] there is no video of the entire speech. >> let's listen to some of the audio. war speak out against this because i am disappointed with america. there could be no great disappointment where there is no great love. i am disappointed with our failure to be forthrightly with the triple evil of racism, economic exploitation, and militarization. we are presently moving down a dead end road that lead to national disaster. it is time for all people to call upon america to come back home. god has a way of standing before the nation and it seems that [indiscernible] you are too arrogant. >> who got mad at him because of the speech? >> every body. the next day, the media turns on him. >> why? >> they did not see what they saw as his arrogance

group airborne during combat operations against an armed enemy in the city of chi lang republicic of vietnam. staff morris' affiliated company were engaged by a hostile force. he learned by radio that a fellow team commander had been killed near an enemy bunker and reorganized his men into an effective assault posture before advancing forward and splitting off with two men to recover the team commander's body. observing the maneuver, the hostile force concentrated its fire on his three-man element and wounded both men accompanying him. after assisting the two wounded back, staff sergeant morris charged forward with only his men suppressive fire as cover. while enemy gun placements were against him, staff sergeant morris destroyed the positions with hand grenades and continued his assault eliminating four bunkers. upon reaching the bunker nearest the fallen team commander, he repulsed the enemy and began the trek back to friendly lines. he was wounded three times as he struggled forward but succeeded in returning his fallen comrade to a fall safe position. they are in keeping with the highest

vietnam. two tours in on september 17, 1969 his heroic actions in vet name earned him the highest military award. after more than 45 years, he finally received the recognition he deserved and was decorated with the medal of honor by president obama in march of this year. please welcome u.s. army sergeant first class melvin morris. [applause] >> i've prepared a few questions for our panelist but i'll give you plenty of time later on for your questions as well and we'll have a good discussion with our panelist. before we get started i encourage to you visit the medal of honor website where you can learn about all recipients and read their citations as well. fur ever down in charles son, i encourage to you strift medal of honor museum in south carolina. so i'd like to start with you colonel. what were some let's talk about some of your role models early in your life growing up in connecticut. >> i think my role models first of all were mom and dad. we came from a small town in connecticut. we did

for vietnam veteran chuck hagel, that war is always with him. this is something that means a lot to you in your office, you see it every day when you come in, tell me about this. >> it came in the mail, a photo. >> a photo sent to him. >> we were going into long bend ammo depo at the time, the largest in the world. and as we approached it these explosions started going off because the vc had hgotten in there the night before. the reason this picture struck me always is because it represents, i think in one picture the awesome power of war. >> reporter: now, the secretary of defense is using the power of his office to help some of the most troubled veterans from the war he fought in. hagel has ordered that vietnam veterans with less than honorable discharges may now have post-traumatic stress from that war be considered a contributing factor in their discharge. that could open the door to vietnam veterans who never quali qualified for disability pay because of their discharge status finally getting compensated. >> in our generation, there was the

i experienced the brunt end of that coming out of vietnam. so now seeing the young folks coming into the military, young men and women, and still having faith in our country, faith in our services, is rewarding to me. knowing that what i did and what happened to me during the vietnam era was not a loss. >> okay guys. stop and see us again, okay? >> and john tells us one thing that got him through those tough times in battle, the uso. and after 13 years at war, you can't help but believe the same is true for today's soldiers and airmen. so, do you want to say thank you? well you should. you want to consider donating whatever money you can afford to our uso turkey for troops telethon. the money we raise today will buy thanksgiving food baskets. so call this number. 202-895-5560. the troops really appreciate your help and lord knows they deserve it. topper is up next with the forecast. >>> are you looking for a way to say thank you to a veteran today? why not buy them a thanksgiving food basket and the we are making it so easy for you. just call

they felt there were creating theons to destroy not only enemy being soldiers, vietnam war soldiers, but also civilians. i felt this was not a good approach to the war, but these are mathematicians sitting around trying to figure out how ratios, but they did not think of themselves so much as creating weaponry. itre was an attempt to bomb in 1970. it was the largest mystic terrorism incident until oklahoma city in the united states. it is not just a local story. that were hoping to close it down, and the people going after it were part of what they called the new year's eve gang. armstrong was the leader of the new year's eve gang. he and his brother were part of the four people who decided to bomb sterling hall. very much like they did in oklahoma city. it was ammonium nitrate and they set off jet fuel to blow up the building, essentially. they took out the physics lab and the first floor and ended up killing one of the physics students there. this was on the second floor. it was saved after the bombing by a professor. the mathematics research center moved to a new building, the 12

as we have been reminded again vets were vietnam patriots and are patriots. you served with valor, made us proud, and your service is with us for eternity. no matter how long it takes, no matter how many years go by, we will express our attitude for your extraordinary service. watch over you and all those who have sacrificed for our country. may god keep safe those who wear our country's uniform and veterans. may god continue to bless the united states of america. at this point, i asked the chaplain to return to the stage for the benediction. let us continue to pray. as you go forth, do not be afraid. go into the world in peace and courage. find what is good. strengthen the fainthearted. help the suffering. honor all people. let us love and serve to make god's blessing be upon us and remain with us always. amen. >> amen. >> and at this point i would for ae everybody to join reception. i hear the food is pretty good. once again to all of you who serve and your families who serve along with them, the nation is grateful to your commander in chief could not be pr

-- we lost the war in vietnam. one of the reasons we lost was that the will of the american people was broken. we know that war is an act of politics by violent means. and that by engaging in the act of war, you are determining one person's will or one group of people's will over another group of people's will. it's a political contest. in the vietnam war, the united states -- it was assessed by the chief of staff of the army and others that our will broke. and he said, what can i do? what can i do as chief of staff of the army to ensure that the american people are engaged in any future conflict? and he said, what i will do is i will resign the force so that the united states army can never again be committed to a ground combat situation, a ground war without bringing along the american people. and he decided to make sure that the national guard and reserve component were fully integrated into the active component. so you couldn't just send the active component. if the active component were to go, it would require

i've been all over vietnam, a place i feel a special connection to. my first love, a place i remain, besotted with, fascinated by. so back in vietnam, one of my favorite places on earth. and all of the things i need for happiness. plastic stool, tiny little plastic table, check. oh. something delicious in a bowl. check. in this case a local specialty, com hen, clam rice, sweet clams out of their shells, tossed with a wild swirl, beans, spicy green chillies, crunchy roasted peanuts, fried pork rind, and cilantro. and a similar variation with

secretary chuck hagel, a vietnam veteran, like his brother, served in vietnam. his statement there is a very powerful. you have to have a public debate before you commit forces. we had been after 9/11 but it was very rushed. we had it again in 2002 before going into iraq. we never continued the debate. the initial phases were successful from a military standpoint but we never followed up by having a discussion, is it appropriate to send thousands of men and women into foreign countries to go house to house trying to sort out who is a terrorist, who is a villager? that is something we tried in southeast asia and it did not work but we repeated it once in afghanistan, and then again in iraq. that is very disturbing, and i think that led to a failure in both campaigns. >> the surge in iraq? the word is what it means, a temporary measure. it was a temporary increase in troops. the best way i would use an analogy -- if a patient is ill and has a fever have a you can give aspirin to bring the temperature down. but when you stop giving it, the underlying beaver is stil

turning into obama's vietnam. put up a puppet regime and expected to stand up when have of the population is against it. iran is what you have in and saudi arabia. you can go in and change people's minds which religious beliefs is ridiculous. brought up vietnam. the slippery slope of more troops being sent in. mission worried about creep? >> first of all, we are going perpetual war over there. the same escalation that happened in vietnam has happened already. the bombing in syria, it will not work. we dropped more bombs in vietnam that we dropped in world war ii. >> little more news on what the is going to do, lawmakers will consider the request to deploy and the $1.6 billion bill. kate good morning. >> i disagree with the invasion in iraq. middle east cia lotta folks who involved in the details that most of the those an public, most of folks came out and said there are no wmd's. was there doing expections, prior to the ing invasion that they were false. there were millions of us in what we ets , based on where he

had them in vietnam. i've always talked about one of the main differences between those of us who served in vietnam and those who served in other wars, we knew there was an end. at the end of 12 months if you were an enlisted man or 13 if you were a marine, you left. you'd come back, but you knew you would go home. what the world war ii veterans that had to deal with in korea, they were uncertain. there was great uncertainty, especially world war ii, as to how this would all end. that was as much on the personal side of this, the big difference between those who served in vietnam and the other wars. so we all desperately looked forward to that r and r, which incidentally we did take about two months later and tom and i went to hawaii where we met my grandmother and my mother and my brothers and more aunts than i ever knew i had. the aunts all had to come and cheer on the war effort. and i know most of those women were not relatives, but nonetheless, my mother let them come. it was nice to see them. so the

they'reò not designed to replicate vietnam. we consciously turnedwe knew to work. >> rose: we end with edward by lurks anne hamburger and aj sue buy. when men and women go to war. >> i don't think you can go over and do all those things and have things done to you and then come back and everything's just like you just unpause your life. like that's not something that's possible. >> rose: we conclude with a canadian novelist, margaret atwood, her short stories. >> i called them tales because i didn't want people to think we're inrealism although we arey because i don't think there are any real zombies or anything in the stories but there are people who are interested in cut off hands that crawl around by themselves and earth means of deform. >> rose: general bolger, basetrack live and margaret atwood when we continue. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: daniel bolger is

a fellow of vietnam veteran. mick, first to you. obviously difficulties with the white house and working with the nsc and a lot of conflict. the resignation. why now? >> as you suggested, some officials here at the pentagon. they had the meetings over several weeks and hagel's idea. i'm told that in fact as you mentioned thatag

the vietnam war veteran? >> nobody is bet every qualitied to speak on that than john mccain and i believe -- again, everyone gets a different lesson from vietnam but the one that i have and certainly john mccain has because he was there, when you escalate, you give the enemy a chance to escalate their defenses. when you tell them what you are going to do, you give the enemy the opportunity to plan. i will tell isis whatever we have to do, use whatever weapons we have. whether we do or not, that's up to the commander in chief. >> we have more to discuss, congressman. i want to you stand by. a quick break. we'll turn to iran. what is iran up to and iraq and more. right after this. e than the dri. it's more than the car. for lotus f1 team, the competitive edge is the cloud. powered by microsoft dynamics, azure, and office 365, the team can gain real time insights and instantly share information around the globe. when every millisecond counts, staying competitive begins with the cloud. this is the microsoft cloud

we have vietnam veterans who don't realize that they have all of these benefits available to them. and then suddenly somebody tells them or has that trusted relationship like a peer support, and is able to bring them in and hook them in to whatever benefits they are entitled. if they are not, then to be able to provide other resources that they can access. i think that might be the key. there are a lot of veterans out there. i'm daughter of veterans. i'm also a spouse. and we -- it's just so vast the kind of benefits that are there. yeah, i think the key really is outreach and peer support. -- see you >> we're basically out of time. the reason we are cutting it a little sure it is because we want you to be aware of the program following this. set in someirst, of eso,e are considered but we know that we do not have the kind of knowledge we need to have when it comes to the military culture, and that is where we should reach out to the foundation. we have a new program called homefront. it is an evidence-based program and it is wrapped in the military altar and the military language.

and we suspected we'd never see each other in vietnam. worked out.it all myhe then was transferred to unit. and beginning of this letter is elling my mother and my two brothers at home that he had just gone out on the first patrol with us. well that successful patrol, be may, the first sergeant actually assigned tom second platoon and my squad, third squad. really we can't get any closer. i'm concerned about that. approximately two feet from me. this is not good. e both realized the consequences that could develop if something would happen. have accepted this fact so no problem. and our s are fine spirits are very high. i hope things are going smooth all, chuck love you and tom. weeks s about two days before tom and i were wounded together for time.rst letter sent in april, of 1968. dear mom, mike, and jim, easter is almost here. haven't even given it a thought. but we did think about jim. the youngest brother. felt withing his tonsils out. it must have been painful. tom and i have happy time. hope things went well and he's recovering. pa

i was involved in some of the most serious fights in vietnam. i could name them, but i'll probably bore you. so one night, by accident, i would walk the lines and talk to the young kids, particularly if we had a casualty, because they didn't have a kind of background and they were young and losing their best friend was something monumental. but one night, i was walking the lines and sitting the edge of the foxhole and kicked the dirt and one of them said to me, general, he said, you don't have your weapon. i don't know what i said it, i said why do i need a weapon? i have you to protect me. and i thought that was great. the general was going to rely on us, but those are things that you do to sort of personalize. the other morning, showing you how current things can be, the other morning, i was shaving actually -- not that you care -- but i do once in a while -- the telephone rang. and a little squeaky voice bviously from a young lady asked if general kelley was there and i said speaking. and she gave me her name and i didn't quite focus on it. d

there is a ceremony in the vietnam's memorial in washington. secretary chuck hagel set to speak any time now. and in the meantime shannon bream is live on the national mall with more on the goings on there. >> reporter: you are hearing the sneak preview of the zack brown. they will be here tonight for the first ever of its kind on the national mall on veterans day. there will be ri hannah and bruce springstein and ophrah will be here. they want to have a emphasis on those who are still serving here in the present day right now, there is a number of military folks and families getting an up front vow of the zack brown band. they will be honored guest tonight and 12000 societies reserved for veterans and family and active doubt military. expect to have 800000 people here tonight. organizers are going to have information on how you help. and they are helping those who served our country and still serving our country. and they want every day to be veteran's day and sometimes it is it easier for us to write a check. but they want to encourage averag

-- we sort of expanding with vietnam's military capablity in order to contain china, but vietnam is also a military dictatorship and is also trying to take over southeast asia basically, trying to occupy cambodia and laos right now. >> guest: the obama administration recently partially lifted a ban on the sale of weapons to vietnam, and this is in part because of vietnam's growing concerns about china. i think that what vietnam is likely to buy, what the u.s. is willing to sell, is very limited. we're talking about capabilities that will enhance vietnam to know what is going on in waters close to its closeline. >> host: not the f-22 -- >> guest: no. no. we are talking about the p-3 aircraft inch united states developed a more modern version of the p8 so the p3s will become available for sale, and i think that's what vietnam will primarily acquire. they depth have sufficient capability to know what is going on in this -- in the water around their coastline. they call that maritime domain awareness. i think that the military relationship between the u.s. and vietnam will degree very s

i think of my 38 west point classmates who died in vietnam and other wars. think about the fact that we're still at war and we're still continuing to have young men and women who leave the army as veterans or military service as veterans and often times they come back into the civilian workforce wounded both physically and emotionally. and now is the time for to us forget about politics, forget about washington, d.c. and reflect on these incredible generations of men and women who generations of men and women who many of them the last full mesh sure. we weigh look at wreath being laid, my father, my wife and two children who all served in the military wherever they are and honor their memory, jon. jon: often said only 1% of our nation's families have someone who is serving in the armed forces. we need, everyone of us we need to thank those who are doing so. >> it is an important point because our country has a history, as wars wind down, we have a natural tendency to turn our attentions elsewhere. often times our veterans and those who served in the military

and i think that was always the case in vietnam. you know, we kept -- we kept caused them to keep ramping up slippery slope. >> let's take a look at however long the slope s let's take a look at the escalation so far in iraq. back in june the president sent the first 275 soldiers there to help support iraqi forces. now with this new deployment, we're going to have 2,900 troops to, quote, train and assist the iraqi army. the question, charles, is whether that is going to be enough to defeat isis or whether in a few months -- i mean, that's a ten-fold increase since june, whether in a few months we'll need even more troops. >> the honest answer, we have no idea. i do want to say it's a promising sign. that there's good enough intelligence, which was always going to be theachilles heel of whole project is the iraqi army. we're training it to be effective against the isis. this is an army that collapsed after $20 billion, collapsed after isis showed up in mosul a few months ago. so, that is at best a dicey proposition that we're actuall

i think that was always the case in vietnam. we kept escalating and kept not quite winning, and that's what's caused them to keep ramping up the troops. it's a slippery slope. >>> let's look at however long the slope is, let's look back at the escalation. back in june the president sent the first 275 soldiers there to help support iraqi forces. now with this new deployment we'll have 2900 troops to, quote, train and assist the iraqi army. the question, charles, is whether that is going to be enough to defeat isis, or whether in a few months -- i mean, that's a tenfold increase in june whether in a few months we'll need even more troops. >> the honest answer, we have no idea. i do want to say it is a promising sign that there was good enough intelligence, which was always going to be the defect to hit what seems to have been a target-rich environment this morning, but the achilles' heel of this whole project, of course, is the iraqi army. we're talking about training it to effective. this is an army that collapsed after $20 billi

than 300 vietnam veterans took a role in the traditional parade. it wound it way along market to honor america's 25 million veterans. the special tribute for vietnam vets coincides with the war's 50th anniversary. one man who served in vietnam as a combat medic said that today is all about those who didn't make it back home. >> veteran's day is always really special. it's not so much for me, everybody else, feels that they're with me and that's the special part of veteran's day. >>> veteran's day officially held on the 11th of november which is on tuesday. >>> six flags is also honoring military personnel this holiday. it's offering discounted tickets for any guest veterans would like to bring. >>> ceremonies were held for a new veteran's resource center. the center opened this afternoon in the san leandro main library. a spokeswoman said the idea is to help veterans navigation civilian life and learn about sources available. >> the veteran's resource center is an opportunity for veterans to connect with not only programs, services and valuable inf

and they were suddenly becoming more silent on vietnam as the liberty crisis moved. so he also knew there was a move back in his favor if he was moderate to israel. >> there was a second gift much more secret but vital to the american president. the dreadful debt toll in vietnam was predominant and the american military attache in israel got a personal visit from a senior official. >> took some helicopters and went across the north red sea, and not only captures them but took back everything. the launchers, the missiles, the maintenance manuals, the rest of it. and then, he went to the u.s. embassy, to the attache and said, i think i have something you may be interested in. and of course those were the same mixes that our aircraft flying over north vietnam were encountering day-to-day. and counter-measures was a huge issue. >> so grateful was the american government, they gave israel two gifts in return: they resupplied them with the weapons they had just lost in the war, and the liberty inquiry run by the department of defense, the d.o.d. was watered down. >> all th

the parade will be lead by 300 motorcycles driven by vietnam veterans, two dozen horses, a vietnam war era hughie helicopter will be featured and 1,000 san francisco junior rotc students. the route take it is from 2nd and market to civic center plaza. there will -- >> all right, ali, thank you for that report >> voters kept rescue crews from the northern california coast guard busy. rescue -- boaters -- the first call came in at when a boat in bodega bay was experiencing engine troubles. the fourth call came in early in the afternoon and was resolved with the help of the richmond harp per master and the last one in the afternoon in bodega bay, a boat that required towing. no one was hurt in these incidents. >> >> plans underway to start a new route in the bay. going along international boulevard and east 14th street. the $170 million project is being paid for in part by a grant which is part of the u.s. department of transportation. the mayor said it will be the back bone of revitalization in that corridor. >> we are adding on housing. we are adding on arts and cultural things. we'll b

and back in vietnam many of our advisers were quickly drawn into combat. it is where we begin tonight with our pentagon correspondent, jim miklaszewski. >> reporter: for years after the american combat role in iraq ended, more u.s. military forces are now headed back to iraq on a new ever-expanding mission. the obama administration announced today it was more than doubling the number of u.s. military forces now on the ground in iraq from 1,400 to nearly 3,000. their mission, to train, advise and assist the iraqi military in its fight against isis militants. for more than three months u.s. air strikes have pounded isis forces with limited success while undertrained iraqi forces have been unable to halt the isis advance. u.s. military commanders fear without more u.s. advisers, the iraqis could lose the battle. the new teams of u.s. military advisers will fan out over the north, west and southern iraq and into two hot combat zones under isis control, anbar and the north baghdad province. those advisers will be protected by u.s. military combat teams. but pen

as i went on in schooling, the vietnam war happened. vietnam conflict, excuse me. never was a war. can't quite understand that, either. but we knew at that time that we are probably going to have to serve. it was a draft type situation back then. there were a lot of volunteers, certainly. but draft boards pretty much controlled who was going into the service. if you are a student, you are exempt. when you had graduated from college, that exemption ended, depending on the board. so i knew i was going to go in. i intended to serve, wanted to go into the navy and fly airplanes. so, i enlisted. my experience in the service had been probably one of the most rewarding opportunities i ever had. and i was truly appreciative to be able to help serve in some way. but the things that helped form those opinions were some of the backgrounds that i got to my -- not only to my family but through the various people i met as i was growing up. so, i was not quite in the same classes as woody was. world war ii was probably the war that kept us from seeking another. -- from speaking another language.

vietnam war? whoa! >> let's see how it is actually -- >> there are yoga moves on that -- >> how did they dig their way out of this hole? it is getting bigger and bigger. >> because the media lets them do it. the lie of the year, not designated by fox news but by fact checkers was that if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. that was the lie of the year. and the media shrugs their shoulders. remember the video of romney saying that 47% of people are too dependent on government. that actually, it ran on every media, front cover for months. this is actually a video of the architect of obamacare saying we have to pass because american people are too stupid and he did say, it doesn't say it once, says it three times. i think that the problem for the obama administration is that no one in the obama administration -- they are acting like they haven't heard it. >> and jonathan gruber says it was regrettable and off the cuff. >> how do you say something throw times off the cuff? >> like a gaff in wash

everyone said we learned from vietnam. and did we learn from desert storm, and it looks like we didn't learn from either one of them, is that what you assess? >> the military of people and people are subject to a degree of arrogance. and people who fought in vietnam and men like colin powell and they had humility. but the guys my age didn't fight in vietnam and we took our country in the war, we thought we could pull it off and we department. >> good point, we know that terrorist want to kill us and how will they try to launch the attack. a major strike or lone wolf or home grown attack increase in this country and are we prepared? we'll ask the retired cian officer and our panel when we come back. so stay w >> radical islamic terrorist want to kill americans and what was the most likely way groups like isis plan on hurting us? gary is an officer who led several cia deployments including the united states response to the east africa embassy bombing and the 9/11 attacks and the commander of all cia forces in eastern afghani

. >> any concern this escalation has the scent of vietnam about it? and do you think the president has a strategy, a strategy and a plan to beat isis? >> the way it was outlined at the lunch on friday, it seemed like a pretty coherent plan that was directed at the ultimate goal of dismantling isil. and my sense is this, after, as the senator said, we have an opportunity to look closely at all the details. i think most members will see this is just a build up of the original plan, which is to try to help the iraqis stand up and take care of business back home. >> where does it end? it was in the 200, now it's 2900. how many more troops? >> i think president has always said that the iraqis have to handle this. they've asked for help. we're willing to help but it's their job to take care of their civil war. i don't think the president intends to have this become anything close to a vietnam. >> let's talk about the lunch, which you both attended on friday. senator barrasso, how heated was the discussion about the president taking executive actions to defe