randall: his real name was vaughn baker. they sent him on video job interviews under his real name vaughn baker, and i think under the name alejandro diaz martinez. some of those entire views. there were four skews, some were totally fluent unaccented english, some were hispanic accented english, and again on the spanish side and the difference on callbacks on video interviews was night and tai. cory: we know there's a problem. we knew there's a problem. when you're hiring people, what are you doing -- the one that got me was the discussion of the computer science class, when it was computer science 101 it was mostly dudes applying. when they changed the name to the joy and love of computing there was more women than ever before. tim: one thing we're doing is making sure diverse talent is involved in the recruiting process. if we're trying to recruit diverse people it's different than if they're sitting across the table from somebody who is diverse. the research studies showed even at university campuses, if that diverse per