hilary warren and elizabeth warren. you know the warren twins. senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts has been emphatic about the fact she isn't running for president. but the push for her to run has always been viewed as a left wing push. from the liberals that love her and some of that is definitely still going on. some of that had quite a resurgence recently but the i'm my own man bush family super pac, they're not liberals. they don't have the same interests or instincts but there's her name on their fund-raising pitch. even though she's not running. it's clear. it's been clear for a long time that elizabeth warren is not running for president. but what is still really interesting and unanswered is why it is such a powerful idea to the left and to the right to pretty much everybody involved in national politics that she could conceivably run even though she doesn't want to. why does the prospect of her running hold so much perceived power for all parties? and perhaps most importantly, how can she use that to get more of what she wants? for

he thinks of elizabeth warren as a great ally. but on one issue before the country right now, and in particular, one issue before the democratic party right now, the president said he completely disagrees with her. senator elizabeth warren is here tonight to respond. and to explain her point of view on this issue. i'm very much looking forward to that. again, senator elizabeth warren here tonight for the interview. it is always good to have her on the show. she honestly doesn't do that many interviews, especially as proportionate of the number she is asked for. so i do always feel really lucky wherever we can get her and we got her tonight. and it feels particularly lucky to get her tonight, while she was in the midst of that big political controversy, and this dialogue with the president that she's now having in public. but it's lucky to get her in the midst of that, and also while there is so much other interesting political news going on right now. today, former secretary of state hillary clinton released this video from her pr

the elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. the expectations is that bill will pass the house unless something unexpected happens. it will likely pass the senate as well. it not okay the trade deal but allow the administration go ahead negotiating it. it will be interesting policy fight as it keeps unfolding tomorrow and beyond. it is a policy fight. it is also a political fight within the democratic party. and the democrats are a party that isn't really used to having internal fights anymore. nobody knows if democrats are any good at internal fights anymore. we're about to see it on the trade deal and more. democratic presidential primary or not. >>> lots more to come tonight. please stay with us. nbc news made an announcement about something that will benefit you directly. particularly during the news week due to happen next week. we have that announcement, that news ahead. which we're excited about in the building. >>> plus, we have our exclusive report ahead tonight on a new policy that has been invented in oklahoma. it's s

senator elizabeth warren is here tonight to respond. and to explain her point of view on this issue. i'm very much looking forward to that again. senator elizabeth warren here tonight for the interview. it's always good to have her on the show. she honestly doesn't do that many interview, especially in proportion to what she was asked to do so i do feel really lucky to get her tonight while she is in the middle of that big political controversy. and this dialogue with the president that she is now having in public. but it's lucky to get her in the middle of that. and also while there is so much other interesting political news going on right now. today, former secretary of state hillary clinton released this video from her presidential campaign asking people to sign up and volunteer for that campaign. but also declaring that she is going to run for president in 2016 using a howard dean style 50s state strategy. they're trying to use organized committees, organizing committees in all 50 states and in all u.s. territories. that is what th

the elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. the expectations is that bill will pass the house unless something unexpected happen naps will likely pass the senate as well. it not okay the trade deal but allow the administration go ahead negotiating it. it will be interesting policy fight as it keeps unfolding tomorrow and beyond. it is a policy fight. it is also a political fight within the democratic party. and the democrats are a party that isn't really used to having internal fights anymore. nobody knows if democrats are any good at internal fights anymore. we're about to see it on the trade deal and more. democratic presidential primary or not. >>> lots more to come tonight. please stay with us. ford is taking the ecoboost challenge all across america. here we go! check out escape and find out why ford is the brand more people buy and buy again. wow! that's a four-cylinder? i thought it was a six. i definitely feel the ecoboost in the ford escape. that's like a sports car. i just opened my trunk with my foot. i prefer, witho

elizabeth warren is trying to pull the democratic party leftward. a democratic said to me i don't like hilary clinton that much but i am in with her because without here we have a civil war in the democratic party. she is the only one that can keep elizabeth warren out. >> the democratic party does a good job of circling the wagon and making sure there is not a lot of shooting in the tent. republicans should learn that lesson. >> you talk about the media not going after them. a lot of the digging on her money comes from "the new york times." i think a lot of folks on the left would prefer to see elizabeth warren. she is waiting for the call to get in. and i think hilary clinton's threat comes from the left. hilary clinton's quote where she said she doesn't want to turn the clock back and talk about what caused the financial crisis saying you don't have to worry about me and that is the opposite of elizabeth warren. >> and republicans are always saying this about hillary that the press likes her but they hate her. they always hated her. >> they liked

jason, the original elizabeth warren, what do you think? >> when you still have to humanize yourself after 20 years in public life when you have to compare yourself to a relatively least recent political star in order to convince people that you care about regular worker issues, you're in trouble. i don't doubt that hillary clinton cares about the middle class, that goes all the way back to her time with bill clinton but the fact that she has to make this argument she will have a hard time motivating and galvanizing the left for 2016. >> angela, she's better than the republicans if you compare those records. is that enough though to galvanize the turnout that she will need? >> absolutely i think it's enough, and i don't just think that she's better than the republicans, rev. i have to substantially disagree with jason's characteristics or characterizing rather of hillary clinton. i first have to say that elizabeth warren is hillary clinton jr. this is someone who has taken her original model. we're talking about a woman who spent the beginn

writing about elizabeth warren is hillary clinton. writing about the koch brothers is presidential candidate rand paul. in presidential politics, the two parties right now are running as fast as they can in opposite directions. the republican party right now is all about openly courting the billionaires. the democrats, specifically the person most likely to become the democratic nominee for president, democrats are doing everything they can to send an anti-big money, populist message to appeal to middle class voters. there it is right now a huge contingent of u.s. military power being dispatched to the body of water surrounding yemen. in that part of the world, there are currently two u.s. mine sweepers, three amphibious ships with more than 2,000 u.s. marines on them, two destroyers, and now a guided missile cruiser is being added to the fleet as well as the aircraft carrier, the uss theodore roosevelt. nine vessels and more than 9,000 american military personnel stacked up off the coast of yemen. why are they all there 124 according

"the today," asks elizabeth warren the question again. and again. and again. >> possibly i am beating a dead horse but would you even consider, entertain, the possibility of running for president? >> no. >> why are the media determined to drag the massachusetts senator into the 2016 race? >> an uproar over jon stewart's replacement? trevor noah. >> under fire for offensive jokes about jews blacks and satisfy scan. is this the right choice for "the daily show." >> and harvey winestein accused of groping a tabloid model. should the press be getting down in the gutter? this is "media buzz." >> when mike pence signed the indiana religious freedom law saying it would allow discrimination against the gays the national media pounced. quickly. some with a more balanced approach than others. >> this evening there is a growing backlash again a law signed yesterday by the governor of indiana. supporters of the law say it protects religious freedom. opponents say it legalizes discrimination. >> some say the new religious freedom law opens the door to discrimina

elizabeth warren, she is like the maestro in a nutcracker ballet. while she says she is not going to take the stage in 2016, she wants the star of the show to dance to her to. this morning though on cbs, the maestro seemed out of sorts. >> do think she is future of the democratic party? elizabeth warren: i think we have juicy first of all if she declares and what she says she wants to runs on. that is the interesting thing. i will tell you where i stand on all the key issues. it is up to others to say if they stand there as well or in a different place. i will tell you where i stand on minimum wage. i will tell you where i stand on equal pay for equal work. >> name me one thing you would like to see hillary clinton do endocyte and commit to that and say and commit to -- emissary and commit to -- and say and commit to that she has not committed to. elizabeth warren: i would like to see her address all of these issues. mark: melinda, with the launch of henry clinton's campaign just days or hours away, doesn't seem like senator warren realizes she is a

what is elizabeth warren's calculation? what is she thinking? is she entirely out? or waiting for the opportunity. >> she is waiting to be drafted. >> what is the opportunity? that opportunity is only this, this is what i think if hillary clinton does not inspire which we said 30 minutes ago that's elizabeth warren's strength. she gets them there. throwing verbal bombs. gets people all fired up. that is not hillary clinton's strength. >> this is only reason, just very quickly, the only reason i want to see elizabeth warren get in because it pulls hillary clinton further to the left so people see what she is actually playing it. right now she can be a appet thick centrist and bide her time for the next 19 months. >> harris, what about the enthusiasm point hemmer brought up? elizabeth warren, if you go to, i've been looking around leftist blogs, progressive really like her. they want warren to get in the race a major way. it would make her a bert candidate. kennedy is right, it will force her to the left and she will have to triangulate. only thing hillary inspired me

when we come back, elizabeth warren's response. and 7 to 5, the democrats in that committee voted for fastrack. this isn't one sided, but it is a hot debate. you're a watching "hardball," the place for politics. 0 we're allies on a whole host of issues. but she's wrong on this. and when you hear folks make olt of suggestions about how bad this trade deal is, when you dig into the facts, they are wrong. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was from my interview with president obama on tuesday, where he made his case for the possibly historic trans-pacific trade deal. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren is the most celebrated critic in the deal, and last night on msnbc's rachel maddow, warren responded to that charge. >> now, it's the case that the president says that he wants the american people to judge this deal based on the facts, but, to do that, he's got to make the deal public. if it's a great deal for families, like the president says, or a great deal for workers, then put it out there and let them see it before we have to

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(cheers and applause) >> jon: back with senator elizabeth warren. i know you've got a huge thing on this student loan thing. what i want you to explain to me because this is the difference between cbl accounting and fair value accounting. what is -- what's the difference -- because apparently that makes all the difference in the world to student loans so what is the difference and is there a difference? >> the question is right now in washington how you do the accounting for anything, where you spend money or have money coming in. >> jon: so we can now agree on science policy and math. >> and hire's why it matters on student loans. >> jon: all right. the interest rate on student loans depends on when you took the loan out. so there are folks who have loans at 6%, 8%, 10% even higher. >> jon: back then the interest rates are hiring, inflation was higher and -- >> even now the interest rate on student loans, depend tong the kind of loan, is pretty substantial. we're in a low interest rate environment. you can refinance your home. you can refinance you

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earlier today the president called out senator elizabeth warren. >> i love elizabeth. we've ear allies on a whole lot of issues but she's wrong on this issue. >> joining me now is debby stab gnaw and i know you have concerns about the deal and your thoughts on the president's position. o5%/e >> the fast track legislation isn't strong enough and i should start by saying we know we're in a global economy. i want to make sure we're exporting products, not jobs, and when you talk about currency manipulation, right now we've seen when japan was manipulating their currency that the japanese auto companies actually were making more profit by that artificial discount in their price than they were on anything else. they sell to us, we can't sell to them. they manipulated their currency, so we're going to have to do fast track authority on trade then we better have you have to enforcement to make sure we can't have countries manipulating their currenty. >> are you one of the senators that the president was talking with very pro-labor and anti-trade because i notice your record i

sounding like elizabeth warren. >> they don't love it t. nobody in the we say world loves to get singled out. they understand she needs to appeal to the elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. she's got a problem on her left. got to talk about economic inequality. hedge fund managers pay this lower rate than truckers. particularly democrats on wall street almost everybody on wall street knows whatshy talking about is the capital gains rate has to go away. she's been in favor in that in the past. ginsler is more surprising -- >> did that change -- >> a bit. >> explain the significance of that. >> he's not a household name. he's well-known on wall street. he was a goldman sachs employee for a long time. a deregulator for a long time. then he came to washington. he was key in implementing the dodd frank role. he was tough on regulatory reform. by saying a lot of banks wanted to be able to do trades overseas. thal u.s. is going to regulate this stuff whether you do it here or overseas. wall street didn't like that. they're not going to l

people making sure elizabeth warren is more qualified. can hillary adopt that. >> i think hillary clinton has been for the little guy for a long time. she has a record of women's rights equal rights social justice. you know she's been a supporter round table that's going to begin areeting all of the people that have been chosen to be part of this policy conversation the first official conversation that is happening in monticello iowa. let's listen in. >> good afternoon, everybody, she just had a great visit with our students in the cnc lab, what we're going to do today is have a little round table. i thought we would go around and introduce ourselves and tell about what you are and where you're from and all of that kind of stuff. let's start with you. >> i'm a senior at springville high school and i've been taking classes here for three years now and started when i was a sophomore. i'm currently in the into tech academy, meeting across the hall right now and biotech companion. i'll be graduating in may and upon graduating heading out to i

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senator elizabeth warren for the third. and reality star kim kardashian finally made the list this year. james rosen volunteered to cover that story. he's our chief washington correspondent. this year, not exactly apolitical. >> no. it is an intensely political list from those who make the list to those asked to write about it. this year massachusetts senior senator elizabeth warren, a populist democrat who many wish were running, instead of hillary clinton with deep ties to wall street was written up by none other than hillary clinton. the likely presidential nominee who wrote in time, i quote. elizabeth warren never lets us forget that the world of teenage wall street's irresponsible risk taking is far from finished. and she never fails to hold powerful people's feet to the fire. it is one of a number of gestures that clinton has made to dissuade her from causing problems from clinton's candidacy even as warren herself declined to endorse the candidacy. asked if clinton represents the future of the democratic party she sa

let's try 24. >> who cares, let's try 24. 26, elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren. she says she is not running. she is definitely not running. she says she is really definitely certainly not running. so is she running? we say keep asking. we say massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. >> this is the problem. unlike jim webb and bernie sanders do you think she is going to run. >> no. >> you have given me the one member of the united states senate that honestly doesn't want to be president. >> he may have been less than thrilled with his final pick in the all in 2016 fantasy candidate draft. that was a few months ago and judging by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren's latest interview with savannah guthrie it doesn't look like she changed her mind. >> you didn't think you would get away with this interview without me asking you point blank are you going to run for president? >> no, i'm not running and i'm not going to run. >> let me make sure that we underscore this and bold it and put it in all caps because i have to tell you i have read every single interview yo

elizabeth warren wants to talk about student loans and things that journalist think is boring. and as far as the 2016 field, there is not much on the democratic side. and martin o'malley got traction by saying the presidency should not be rotated by two crowns. and he's not going after hillary clinton too har. we don't have a horse on the democratic side. almost like they are begging warren to get in. >> they should be able to manage a little clinton and bush fatigue handle that and do our jobs. >> you are asking about the media buzz. >> and we'll have more coming up on media buzz. and i have to make sure i check. it >> among other things the indiana law controversy. we have a comedian that will talk about the daily show host and the jokes he made. >> he is quite funny isn't he? and we have big things on the network as well. great to see you as always. and for our viers media buzz on sunday. lep o'clock a.m. on the fox news channel. >> a very disturbing story, a 14-year-old girl accused of convincing her older boyfriend of killing her mother. the girl is charged now as an adult

elizabeth warren is the party's populous populous. you see hillary clinton echoing the tones already. >> we want to hear from our viewers about the next 15 minutes or so. we've got shira center and catherine lucey. if you're not meeting with candidates right now, we'd be happy to hear from you this morning on "the wall street journal." in the meantime we'll go to one of those swing states, ohio. yolanda is waiting on the line for republicans. good morning. >> caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. no. i just wanted to give me comment that i can't believe when i hear people say it's her turn, it is nobody's turn. aren't we to pick the most experienced, the one -- it just bothered me. i keep seeing white water e-mail scandals and especially benghazi, that bothers me a lot when i see clips of pictures of the guys who lost their lives and then hillary answering questions saying, what difference does it make? i just don't trust her. i'm sorry. we need some fresh new faces, i think. >> catherine lucey if you want to pick up on tha

and elizabeth warren has stated that she's not going to run. in politics that means she's probably likely to run at some point. i think hillary clinton and her team want to do everything they possibly can to avoid any mounting sense of optsition. right now, it is virtually unanimous, particularly in the washington press core that she will not have a serious challenge. mention martin o'malley gym webb and journalists in this town will laugh. they'll laugh it off. that's exactly the attitude that the clinton campaign team wants to keep and the more pressers she has from the left on things like trade, the more that sense of inevitably is eroded. >> i think the 50 point lead and you can't take a position on an issue that is so obvious, her husband supported it with nafta. she wants to walk it back. she said it was the gold standard. it shows a certain lack -- not exactly profile and courage mike kinsly the editor of the new republic once said to me there's not a lot of proposition in economics or politics that are mathematically provable to be true

he went onto say democrats are afraid of elizabeth warren. no democrat wants elizabeth warren being critical of them. what do you think of that? >> i have no idea how it happened so fast. except to say that i don't think they've seen leadership from the white house. and that's what the democrats have been looking for. looking for a leader. harry reid is on his way out. they don't have a leader. nancy pelosi on her way out. harry reid on his way out. elizabeth warren is willing to stand up and appeal to that evermore liberal block within the liberal party and the same thing is happening you are getting pushed further and further the way the congressional districts particularly are set up that you don't have to worry about the general election you have to worry about the primary. neil: it could costut general election, you and i are old enough to remember what democrats did with george mcgovern. drove hard left, captured the nomination captured liberals' hearts and went down in flames. i'm wondering maybe republicans sit back and enjoy this? >>

and elizabeth warren has stated that she's not going to run. in politics that means she's probably likely to run at some point. i think hillary clinton and her team want to do everything they possibly can to avoid any mounting sense of optsition. right now, it is virtually unanimous, particularly in the washington press core that she will not have a serious challenge. mention martin o'malley gym webb and journalists in this town will laugh. they'll laugh it off. that's exactly the attitude that the clinton campaign team wants to keep and the more pressers she has from the left on things like trade, the more that sense of inevitably is eroded. >> i think the 50 point lead and you can't take a position on an issue that is so obvious, her husband supported it with nafta. she wants to walk it back. she said it was the gold standard. it shows a certain lack -- not exactly profile and courage mike kinsly the editor of the new republic once said to me there's not a lot of proposition in economics or politics that are mathematically provable to be true

sure if she can do it or not. >> and elizabeth warren has been able to capture the populous base of the journalist party. >> that can win you an election. i mean barack obama. >> i'm not denying that, but i will tell you this it's like a romance. the unattainable is more attractive. if she flipped tomorrow, we'd start to point out all her weaknesses. >> that's true. >> i disagree. when barack obama ran nobody pointed out the weaknesses. the romance existed and he was able to -- >> the reason most of these journalists i think were probably so interested in elizabeth warren, she might be a candidate. >> we're not going to find out because she's not running. >> right now. >> all right. who knows. ahead on the "#mediabuzz," robert menendez indicted for bribery and some claim the obama administration is engaging in political pay back. but first harvey weinstein accused in a groping incident. not to be judgmental, but from where i'm sitting... it's your gas that's out of order in this court. the pressure. the bloating. get gas-x. it relieves all those symptoms in minutes. that's why it's

warren over the fast track trade deal. >> i love elizabeth. we're allies on a whole host of issues but she's wrong thon. >> my view is when the process is rigged then the outcome is likely to be riggeded. >> president says the deal will help middle class workers, but in a fund-raising letter this week warren called the deal a top secret that the government doesn't want you to read and today the president is hitting back on a conference call with a group of reporters. the president said the attacks are, quote, dishonest, and that is a quote. a little concerning, he said when i see some of my friends resorting to these tactics. jimmy, this is getting a little heated. do you think that both sides need to step back and cool down? >> well first and foremost you're right. april's book is fabulous. >> oh, thank you. >> second and most importantly. >> absolute. >> i i'm going to test you on the book jimmy, but go ahead. >> i'll take that test. secondly and most importantly back when i worked in the senate and we did the africa bill the cbi, caribbean

warren challenge -- >> well, she would argue and her people have argued that she was elizabeth warren before elizabeth warren was even a flicker in any of our eyes. >> she appointed gary gunsler, former head of the fcc, a lot of people see him as a reformer and someone who stood up to wall street. that's a signal to the progressives, i mean it. however, as a progressive myself who does think that income inequality is a huge problem in this country -- >> again, greg she spent 12 years amassing a fortune and a lot of it coming from wall street. >> she's hypocritical. hello? >> i know. but what i'm always interested in is how surprised she is by things, like she was surprised by the sluggish economy and entrepreneurial is down. >> that's right. she's continually surprised by elements that we all know about. the difficulty of mastering e-mail and the devices -- it's just too hard and then she's talking about law for equal pay when there is a law for equal pay. it's like she's rip van winkle. and laws that allow women to get paid equally? >> and these parking spots who puts them right in f

elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren. she says she's not running. she says she's definitely not running. she says she's really definitely certainly not running, so is she running? >> we say keep asking. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. >> this is the problem. unlike jim web and bernie sanders, do you think she's going to run? >> no. >> you're basically iced out here. >> you've given me the one member of the united states senate who honestly does not want to be president. >> you chose it yourself. >> a decent one. where do you want to go here in. >> so far this game has been devilish so i'm going to go with number six. >> joy makes a satanic play. will it work? no. she gets the preacher instead. >> mike huckabee running on an anti-beyonce pro anti-beyonce platform. it's mike huckabee. >> i have one and only comment. >> wow. good comment. good comment. >> i have nothing more to say but i think he will run and do very well in iowa and south carolina. i don't think he's really running. i think he might be running for a book deal. >> running for a

then we flash forward to the last election cycle where she tried to sound like elizabeth warren and said that businesses don't create any jobs. >> lack of authenticity, is that what you're pointing to? >> just lack of basic skills. authenticity. the ability to communicate. >> with an audience? >> i think the connection. >> i think it's glossed over because the brand and the money are so huge and i think her problem is going to be when she has to communicate with average voters and they get to decide. >> you know what all this means? the race is going to be very tight and we'll have a lot of fun with it. >> now, do you mean in the primaries or the general election? >> i mean in the general election. state by state. generals -- >> i cannot recall a primary over -- for an open seat presidential nomination where you have had such an overwhelming favorite. i mean most of the party apparatus as you suggested is falling into line. we had a senator come in ben cardin who said i think hillary clinton is going to be the nominee. he's from maryland where martin o'malley the former governor may run.

elizabeth. >> this is all about keeping elizabeth warren out of the race. unlike the others, elizabeth warren can beat hillary. nobody else can. >> why? >> because she appeals to the authentic voice of progressives who see her against income equality and the banks. >> who else could beat her is claire mccaskill. >> she is supporting hillary. >> which is why i'd like to go back and kill todd aiken for blowing that election because we almost took her out. she was smart enough to make sure she'd run against -- >> i'll tell you i saw elizabeth warren on tv the other morning. i have to tell you, she comes across as rather personable. >> yes, she does. >> she comes across as real. she maybe a progressive. >> she is. >> she may not have the ideology that you do, but i get the sense that she believes in what she's saying. >> no, that's right. >> she's not a murderer or killer. she's not a nazi. >> i keep starting again. >> you can. >> compared to hillary clinton anyone will come across as better than dr. mengalay because hillary is extremely unpersonal. she does no

there's always the hope of elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren can beat hillary. >> why? >> because she appeals to the authentic voice of progresssives and it's against income inequality and against the banks and for middle class. >> claire mccasketel. i think she's an undersold democrats. >> because she supported hellry. >> which is why i would like to go back and kill todd achan for blowing that election because we almost took her out. >> i saw elizabeth warren this morning, and i have to tell you, she comes across as rather personable. she comes across as real. you know, i mean, she may be a progressive. she may not have the ideology that you do, but i get the sense that she believes in what she's saying. >> right. that's right. >> compared to hillary clinton -- >> she's want a murderer. she's not a killer. >> i keep starlgt again. compared to hillary clinton, anyone will come across as better than the doctor because hillary is extremely unpersonable. she does not have the normal political skills. why? how did she get there? because of whom she happened to be married t

he thinks of elizabeth warren as a great ally. but on one issue before the country right now, and in particular, one issue before the democratic party right now, the president said he completely disagrees with her. senator elizabeth warren is here tonight to respond. and to explain her point of view on this issue. i'm very much looking forward to that. again, senator elizabeth warren here tonight for the interview. it is always good to have her on the show. she honestly doesn't do that many interviews, especially as

here's what elizabeth warren said to me when i spoke to her on this show not too long ago. listen to this. a lot of progressives have questions about whether she'll be a progressive warrior. what would you say to them? >> you know i think that's what we got to see. i want to hear what she wants to run on and what she says she wants to do. that's what dpancampaigns are supposed to be about. >> how important will it be for hillary clinton to rally progressives like elizabeth warren? >> i think it's important for her to rally the broad swath of the democratic party and more and more americans. and you know having worked for hillary, i know her record on these issues. you know we talked about the -- we talked about the 2007/2008 campaign. she came out for derivatives, she went to wall street to discuss wall street and really criticize wall street's role in the coming crash and the big challenges we were facing. truthfully, if you look at how she ran her campaign at the end, where she was a champion for the middle class, people were struggling, she really talked about how, you k

they're saying we want you to sound like elizabeth warren. can we at least find out where she stands on the keystone xl pipeline. that will take us into a discussion about the environment. get your cell phones out. we'll ask the question in a few moments. first i want to ask the questions to larry cohen. good to have yo we us tonight. you have spent an enormous amount of time on the tpp and fast track and yet the presumed democratic nominee, hillary clinton, has been ominously silent. can your union, and can you support hillary clinton if she supports tpp? >> i think it would be hard regardless of the party, to support a candidate who supports tpp, as we now know it. obviously still a secret. where just as importantly to support fast track, and we don't know what's in fast track. we need populous politics. we need candidates who say i care about jobs. net jobs. imports. killing jobs in america. not just a few export jobs. that we care about pay and how our pay gets held down. i think it's essential that she speak out on these issues. >> essen

elizabeth warren, why do you think she chose to go to cosmo? i thought that it was quite interesting choice. trying to think of something to the effect this. what demographic do i need to reach out to? i think all of the democrats have done a very nice job. something that for publicans can learn from. instead of criticizing her all she comes out saying is i am surprised she did not use a government e-mail. we know now that her server has been wiped clean. she was good to the people that were running away were fleeing from clinton. she should have been more transparent which is something that she has always fought for. a very interesting story. i love that you chose it. >> surprised that she was using her own personal server. were saying that she was not -- >> she is a good liar. i will give her that. i do think that it is interesting that she used the word suffice. she did not say i condemn her behavior. i think that that was interesting language. she is with all the people that are shocked by clinton's action. she does not come out and exactly

you might be an elizabeth warren fan and you don't know it yet. right now as warren points out, the government has its thumb on the scale on the side of parasitic corporations. >> she's for the exim bank that gives money to boeing. >> there are a thousand ways the free market is involved in the government of the united states. john: why isn't she involved in the ex-im bank. >> i'd like to ask wall street why the federal government charges lower interest rates to wall street banks than students for student loans. >> the student loan debt is now 1.2 trillion dollars. 7 million students are in default. bankers are more likely to pay them back. >> first of all, i remember financial crisis recently which the federal government wound up putting a whole bunch of money in wall street. it goes to student loans. corporations, for profit colleges are gaming the system and pulling in giant amounts of student loans they know that students won't be able to repay because the students never graduate. that is the rigging of the system and elizabeth war sen against

the way that elizabeth warren did. when you talk about a liberal base how does she get them on board, also by the way, getting the big donors to stick with her as well because a lot on wall street a lot of these executives do like her. how do you walk that line? >> in the last couple weeks, i've spoken to a lot of donors in the finance world. remember she was a senator in new york for many years, she enjoys a lot of enthusiasm. they very excited for her to -- now that she has launched this campaign to hold fund-raisers make sure her campaign is well funded. will that be a problem for her? absolutely. it is an issue she will have to address. it's an optics thing, right? we do have someone like elizabeth warren being very vocal, and hillary clinton has not spoken about those issues in the past. will she do that to such a degree? i don't know but the fact she's gone on the and talked -- is an attempt to address that. >> she pointed to push and said to "usa today" the money class hayes reaped eight benefits. she's now the