[laughter] >> if i did have a colleague i was never -- who did that, i was never abare of it, so i -- aware of it, so i guess i dealt with it by being clueless. >> i'm with madeline. i wouldn't know it had happened. >> well, thank you very much. thank you, panelists, wonderful. [applause] i do just want to let you know we have another women's media group panel tomorrow in the same room at 9:30, women entrepreneurs of learning from ceos of start-ups about the difficulty of having a start-up. and we have someone's pointing at something, as i mentioned at the beginning, we have the handout sheets in the back about women's media group a sign-up sheet as well. oh and also we are having a digital meet-up today at four that charlotte abbott had organized in the digital space, and we understand there's going to be 110 digital women there. so it should be a very exciting party. thank you for coming. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> books tv is live in new york city at the javits convention center here booked time is going on. this is a convention opened to the public. if