we're joined by the winner catherine garrett cox. congratulations. does an award mean anything? do we still need business awards for women? ms. garrett-cox: we should be but i do not think we are. i was overwhelmed to be awarded last night. i think and financial services, we are sitting in london. the reality is that despite many good attempts, we are still not as far forward as we should be. i am delighted to accept this award on behalf of so many women and finance who are probably unsung heroes. guy: why do you think it was you? ms. garrett-cox: that is a great question. i am not representing the judging panel but when you think about madame clicquot, she was widowed at the age of 27 and she really embodied courage, tenacity and a desire to want to swim against the tide. perhaps -- reallyi like being against the tide. perhaps some of those characteristics are things i have embodied. francine: your business is going through a tough time. talk about the fighting spirit you need. do you do these things differently or is it no different? ms. garrett-cox:i like ultimately it should