the question that colin powell asked in his book. colin powell would not talk to me for my book, and there were a number of people who wouldn't talk to me. many of them claim to have been doubters before. i didn't know about you, and i didn't write about the mobile labs before or i would have tried to talk to you. but the people i did try to talk to would either not talk or would not confirm the -- colin powell in the book called "leadership" said, and i found it very moving and disturbing he said he gets furious when he hears now about people who doubted the intelligence that he was given and the president were given, and he asked the question in "leadership" where were these people when we were going to war? where were these people when a dissent would have mattered? and that's in that's his account. so, um -- >> sorry. what was -- >> [inaudible] >> colin powell's chief of staff -- [inaudible] >> right. >> i'm sorry? >> well, he was -- >> i can't hear you. >> larry wilkerson was chief of staff. >> colin powell's chief of staff put

colin powell served two wars -- two tours in vietnam. george w. bush authorized that and said, fine, we will give you what you need to get it done. we talk a lot in the book about how that was a successful use of u.s. military power, and it accomplish what it was supposed to call bush -- supposed to college. the other aspect of the powell doctrine was an exit strategy which they had. they administration, the bush and mr. asian, decided no, we will end it -- the bush administration, decided no, we will end it. it led to part two with george w. bush. we write in the book that it was successful and the right decision for them. host: marvin kalb just one or two minutes left, by what you to address the immediate question about the caller brings up. if there was a war like world war ii, with the media and the public allow a war to be prosecuted like world war ii was with overwhelming force. guest: i would like to answer that with a 50 minute lecture, by note we did not have the time. we live now in a totally different environment. there has been a revol

those expected to attend include colin powell, lori asked if on -- gloria estefan, laurence fishburne and gary sinise. another event taking place tomorrow is the annual wreath laying ceremony at arlington national cemetery with president obama. will have that live at 10:30 a.m. eastern. we asked how you felt the u.s. was taking care of its veterans and here's what some of you had to say. [video clip] caller: i thank you for c-span. i'm a vietnam era veteran and the biggest part that problem i found with dealing with the va top-heavy with administration. the goal is to deny better and services. -- 29 veterans services -- to deny veterans services. when people getting in the service get into the service side of vet administration, you get better service because the people who were actually there are there because they care about veterans. the layers in between is what is destroying the system. you have all these top-heavy administrators, all these people with great ideas but no real-world experience dealing with the veterans. when you talk to them about post-traumatic stress and issues

that gave birth to the colin powell doctrine. if you're going to go to war, go in big-time and win it. otherwise, do not go in at all. that is what is on the president's mind right now. do you send in 3000 troops to iraq? 20,000? will that do it? do you need another 100,000? if you get in there, when you get sucked into another vietnam? i think these are fundamental questions that for every president for as long as we are around will have to face. host: we have a caller waiting in ohio on a line for independents. caller: hi. i'm a vietnam veteran. i see the disenchantment with these guys from iraq and afghanistan. it is sort of similar to what we had. my question is this, and i find it very troubling. and i cannot get an answer. they always say to ask your representative and get a hold of this person or that person. from the american legion, that i'm a member of, i cannot get an answer. it is very troubling. it brings back a lot of old feelings that a lot of veterans have. on the homeland security bill, one of those two, i looked

secretary of state colin powell from 2002 to 2005. so, the journalists and scholars that we have present. first, anand gopal. he was a journalist that served as an afghanistan correspondent for "the wall street journal," for "the christian science monitor," and as reported for "the nation," "the new republic ," and several other publications. he has extensively interviewed both sides of the afghanistan conflict. this is cited in his critically acclaimed book "no good men among the living: america, the taliban and the war through afghanistan eyes" which was a finalist for the national book award and the helen bernlstein award and recipient of the ridnour prize. congratulations. he is also an insight fellow at columbia university and was formerly a fellow at the new america foundation. peter baker is the chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and the contributing writer for "new york times magazine." he's covered three presidential times in his previous work for "the washington post." he won a prize in the beckman memo

naval war college, special assistant to general colin powell when colonel powell was chiefs of staff. from 2001 until 2002 he was associate director of the state department policy planning staff. colonel wilkerson's last position was chief of staff for u.s. secretary of state co len powell from 2002 to 2005. so the journalists and scholars that we have present. first he was a journalist that served as an afghanistan correspondent for "the wall street journal" for "the christian science monitor" and reported in asia and middle east for several other publication. mr. napol has extensively interviewed both sides of the afghanistan conflict. this is cited in his critically acclaimed book "no good men among the living: america, the taliban and the war through afghanistan eyes" which was a final list in the national book award and the helen bernlstein award and recipient of the ridnour prize. he was an inside fellow at the new america foundation. peter baker is the chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and the cribbing writer for "new york times" magazine. he's covered th

colin powell as head of the joint chiefs of women as well as men, and gays as well as straights. a collective vision and individual rights vision. you need to wonders in the founding and reconstruction of lincoln and the 19th amendment. once women get the vote they have a right to serve in our military. that is the story. gun country, cowboy country and also the equality states. it gives women the vote first and first as a woman elected governor. it is the first to let women on the jury that even in the 1870s when it's still a territory. in 1870 wyoming promises women equal pay for equal rights. [applause] >> we have time unfortunately for just one more question in here it is. you compare justice by two justice thomas. how would you compare the decisions? >> if you want to come down to washington d.c. in three weeks i'm going to be appearing with justice thomas at the national archives. maybe c-span will cover that event. justice thomas and i disagree on certain things, but i think we share very much a fidelity to the constitutional project. we take the text very seriously. i fin

the event was hosted by actors gary sinise and joe montana and colin powell and members of the military with their families. >>> this military weekend bikers from around the world are rolling into washington to remember those who have sacrificed for our country. 4,000 harley riders began their day with a ride for the patriots from fairfax to the pentagon. andrea mccarren were embedded for that ride. >> reporter: fired up from across virginia and compelled to be here. >> honor, duty. >> patriotism. there's a whole lot of people that gave a lot. >> reporter: bikers like don withrow who did two combat tours in vietnam. >> since then this country has come and rallied around their veterans, oh, big time, yeah, and i'm proud to be a part of that. >> reporter: the ride of the patriots began in fairfax 17 years ago and today it is 4,000 bikes strong. to give you some perspective on the magnitude of this ride, the lead bikes will actually reach the pentagon before the final riders even leave fairfax. >> it's important to us because we really like to honor all the veterans in the past and present

sbeeking ing speaking of honors colin powell was presenting a medal of distinguished service and leadership. it went to the rescue committee to help refugees. >>> you've heard of unmarked police cars but you may never have heard of a ghost car until now. new jersey state police unveiled the state police car. you can see the light gray almost ghostly state logo on the front doors there. the idea is to let drivers know that they are dealing with a legitimate police officer if they do get pulled over. i've seen cars like that in haverford township as well. >>> have trouble finding a parking space? there's an app now. there's mobile parking payment app yesterday called tango. not entirely free service. you can find parking spots, parking garages. you will soon be able to pay for the app. the app promises to make the process easier. >> i circle around my normal routine. go through two or three times, different streets, to see if someone moves. >> right now it's only useful in center city but developers say it could expand to cover the entire city of philadelphia by 2016. >>> now to the hot dog s

but also, i've had, like you mentioned, steve jobs, colin powell. dramatically influenced me in philanthropy. and in business, i don't think anyone has influenced me more than larry ellison. i would not be the ceo that i am today, salesforce would not be the company that it is, not just because of his money, but because of everything that he continues to teach me, and that i learn from him. emily: so big tech companies are splitting up. from hp to ebay. why is that happening? and are we going to see more of it? marc: well, i think that there's a lot of different reasons why that is happening. one might be these companies are just too big, they have become so big, unmanageable and you want to get them to be smaller units. smaller units are easier to manage. and so in an organization like hp, you know, it's solomon's baby, they are going to have one for each and that's going to be a great strategy for them. with two ceo's. i think the same thing is a great strategy for ebay. there are probably a lot of other companies will follow this. emily: will ora

naval war college, special assistant to general colin powell when colonel powell was chiefs of staff. from 2001 until 2002 he was associate director of the state department policy planning staff. colonel wilkerson's last position was chief of staff for u.s. secretary of state co len powell from 2002 to 2005. so the journalists and scholars that we have present. first he was a journalist that served as an afghanistan correspondent for "the wall street journal" for "the christian science monitor" and reported in asia and middle east for several other publication. mr. napol has extensively interviewed both sides of the afghanistan conflict. this is cited in his critically acclaimed book "no good men among the living: america, the taliban and the war through afghanistan eyes" which was a final list in the national book award and the helen bernlstein award and recipient of the ridnour prize. he was an inside fellow at the new america foundation. peter baker is the chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and the cribbing writer for "new york times" magazine. he's covered th

no one knew better than former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff colin powell and i was his special assistant at that time what we had done to the armed forces and what earlier was called the peace dividend. it wasn't president clinton who delivered it, it was george h.w. bush. he delivered it because the congress of the united states demanded it. we cut the armed forces 25%. that was a huge cut, biggest cut since world war ii, really especially if you look at how we did it. bases and everything. bill clinton came with his secretary of defense and cut another 3%. what relevance does this have to this? powell was former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. and even though dick cheney told him that, he felt it was his responsibility saying we can't do two wars at the same time. we destroyed that with the 28% cut. so we better finish afghanistan. no one's arguing with you about afghanistan. you better finish that before you do iraq otherwise you're going to negligent afghanistan which is what we proceeded to do. so we shattered the global solidarity and we went to iraq with too few f

. >> i guess the question i would ask you is the question that colin powell asks in his book. he wouldn't talk to me for my buck and there are a number of people who voted talk to me many of them claimed to have been founders before. i didn't know about you and i didn't write about the mobile labs or i would have tried to talk to you. but the people i did try to talk to would either not talk or would not confirm. in the book called leadership he said and i found it very moving and disturbing, he said he gets furious when he hears now about people who doubted that the intelligence that he was given and the president was given, and he asks the question where were these people when we were going to war. where were these people that would have mattered and that is his account. >> the chief of staff [inaudible] is. >> in other countries as well there were debates about the veracity of the intelligence. >> but they all came to the same conclusion. what was striking to me is when i went back and interviewed english and british intelligence and german intelligence whether or not you w

third, colin powell's pottery barn rule if you break it, you have it. and in south vietnam, we owned south vietnam ever after. the phrase nation-building is as absurd as orchid building. orchids are organic and so are nations. we do not know how to build nations any more than we know how to fix english-speaking home grown detroit. >> where does that leave the debate in 2015 and '16 about what we need to do with all the mideast going to hell in a hand basket and putin and all the threats we all know about. >> various republicans and presidential candidates are being drawn by the logic of criticism we should go back in with ground troops. credit the sincerity and logical nature. >> most are not talking about a reinvasion. talking about 10,000 20,000. >> that would count as be a invasion, it seems, 20000 people going back into a country. beyond that, the lesson is isis is a big problem for barack obama. the more they criticize him it's a big problem for republicans who will be challenged, you have to will the means to that end and what are your means? >> b

general colin powell on hand to commemorate what happened 150 years ago, the assassination of president abraham lincoln. 202-748-8900 for those of you in the eastern or central time zones. 202-748-8901. joining us also outside of ford's theatre is james swanson, author of the book "manhunt" and this is something that you've commemorated for many years dating back to 1987. >> it's good to be with you. >> can you only imagine what it was like 150 years ago this evening. the civil war had just ended general lee had surrendered and it was supposed to be a night of celebration for the president and first lady to get out of the white house, to travel to ford theatre and enjoy something that the president loved the theatre. walk us through the events. >> as you said, the north was celebrating. we had surrendered and there were parties, people getting drunk in bars and oyster saloons and on this day abraham lincoln decided to seek some relief and come to ford theatre to see the comedy "our american cousin." lincoln loved to be in the crowd but suffered from the crowd. he loved to be in the thea

powell and probably from the president, get those guys out because once the air war starts, we don't know if they're going to be okay. >> but our responsibility is to our worldwide audience and we will stay and we'll cover this war as best we can and we'll report on the war. >> military experts say a night air attack is the likely scenario for start of any fighting. >> >> that night i was at the pentagon. >> i had a chance to see two senior pentagon officials almost running through the hall. >> they can't say when this would begin because that could endanger u.s. troops. >> it was past midnight dagd time and i was walking past the open window and coming down from the sky, the black sky, it looks like silver paper and i knew instantly what it was. it was chafe. radar jamming chafe. >> tonight the battle has been joined. >> and as soon as that chafe started filtering down to the ground. >> all hell broke loose. >> i was walking by the control room and i could hear the commotion and there it was. >> our team in baghdad was restricted. they couldn't get much information. they could only

one is where was the anger when colin powell said he had tossed all of his e-mails? never, no one mentioned that. it never comes up. >> different time. different place. >> well he told hillary clinton to do what he did. that was his advice to her. >> i don't think his wife was out selling speeches negotiating -- >> hey hey, joe, please you bring in colon powell different time different place, different president. >> different rules for how he's treated at this point. >> actually different rules under the federal law between regulations when it comes to hillary suddenly it doesn't matter the rates were passed if 2009 by the obama white house. >> in any case her e-mails are preserved on the serve. for instance to the "new york times" about. >> is this a smoke screen? >> what about the e-mails she chose to destroy, we never see. >> do you get to see every e-mail that every public official writes? >> joe, some of the e-mails by the clinton's own admission were not on the state department's server because they were sent to other servers. >> which e-mails? >> she says some

when i was deputy national security adviser under colin powell powell, we were helping iraq. sending agricultural credits to the country of iraq. we have a history of involvement in that part of the world. it seems as though there's going to be some kind of a deal if it gets completed which would limit the nature sof some of the equipment that they have. their numbers, their quality. what level of refinement that material is at. the uranium the enrichment of their uranium. it would allow for inspection for at least ten years with a variety of facilities of iran. my impression from what i've been able to hear from the administration and others is that the key issue is really going to be inspection. they can assure themselves that the commitments iran has made have been and will be carried out. i think we're just going to have to wait and see how this plays out. whatever agreement is reached is going to have to be submitted to the congress for approval. i think i reserve judgment as to whether i think this is a good deal or a bad one. >> we've seen in crimea, instability in the

you have john legend former nfl star jerome bettis, secretary of state colin powell and senator cory booker. also alonso morning talks to me about his friendship with the president and why he shares his common value of helping underprivileged children in this country. >> we share the same interests, you know and it all resonates from when we were younger and understanding the opportunities we were given as children. there's a lot of children -- we understand there's a lot of kids out here especially young men of color, who have the ability but just don't have the resources. all of this is centered around basically trying to provide the same resources that we were given to these individuals, these young individuals that come from some very economically challenged areas. >> i want to get into some of those challenges. i witnessed them with my own eyes in some parts of west baltimore last week. as it pertains to these young men of color, i know the president launched my brother's keeper last february. i know, you know you and your foundation you're out and about. you're helping young pe

the show will feature estefan and general colin powell. this is the concert's 26th year. it will be broadcast on pbs on sunday night. >>> and after the break, a new york city hot dog vendor in hot water? why he was fired for price gouging. we'll show you. stay with us. >>> right now, new details about an arrest in that quadruple murder in d.c. daron wint is behind bars charged in the killing of savvas amy and phillip savopoulos and their housekeeper vera figueroa. last night, police surrounded the white car wint was riding in on north avenue in northeast. police also seized a box truck traveling with him. inside they found at least $10,000 in cash. in addition to wint d.c. police arrested three males and two females who were in the car and truck. >>> new developments by the hour in this case. we want to take you back to the beginning now, last wednesday d.c. police say daron wint held the savopoulos family and their housekeeper captive at their west d.c. woodley park neighborhood. the next morning, detectives say someone delivered $40,000 in cash to the house. hours after

the little kid that was not that smart turned out to be colin powell. it's possible for all of us if you believe. there is god within you and you have so many skills so much potential. in fact sometimes you get in your way. you need to get out of your way. >> and the kid in the corner who was lost turned out to be juan williams. >> you bet. >> salute. >> tim cook? >> pretty good advice. >> tim cook was the perfect successor to steve jobs. steve jobs stay hungry stay foolish. if you've never read that put those words in a search engine. >> stay hungry stay foolish. which means, never believe you know it all? >> it was a strange bumper sticker and he takes that idea and he wraps it around the whole speech about the way he approached his life and what led to the company that he started. >> let's turn to one of the most powerful commencement addresses given this season by staff sergeant ryan pitts. he shared what he learned from his fellow soldiers. >> the best advice i can offer you comes from the most challenging and tragic day of my life. courage cannot

powell and are these the right voices? >> well they are. every party plays a role in this larger movement of what to do with the young blackmail male so when you have those types of resources that's always helpful, but i think the initiative should include the work of those who are doing the ground work the community activist and the community organizer, and it's important to reach out to the faith community, the nation of islam and other groups that have a proven track record to make sure young black males are put on a track that will help to bring them up. all of these resources, and i hope this particular initiative doesn't become just a way for high profile figures to just have their names put out there, but it's connected to a greater work and i think what we are seeing here especially here in baltimore, that if it's not rooted in the greater work of redeeming and restoring communities, the work is not going to be anything of value. at this point, we don't need any weak folks or folks trying to grandstand and try to b

. >> are we still betsy remember former secretary of state colin powell said maybe the pottery barn analogy said if you break it, you know, it's ours or something like that. are we still responsible in iraq? >> i think that's certainly a compelling argument that leaders have to be able to make and to talk about. the reality is the situation in iraq is terrible. especially striking about the way that the deputy press secretary spoke about this today is that they are trying so hard to put a positive spin on it. that 25% number is very misleading. as my colleague tim mac reported, even though it's actually accurate to say that ices is has lost control of 25% of the territory it had when the coalition air strike started they recopped most of those loses by getting new territory in western syria. the pentagon and the white house have bent over backwards to make it seem like that's not the case. >> one step forward and two steps back. part of the reason we are doing air strikes but we don't have -- the iraqis aren't going to be able to win the war down there as i think as congressman kinzinger sa

talking celebrity, athletes shaquille o'neal former secretary of state colin powell john legend. role models andal people who will come together and work with the president to continue this work into the communities and really try to raise money, raise awareness, also the opportunities for folks who really feel like we've seen in baltimore and in ferguson that have very little hope for their future. >>> wolf blitzer with a preview of "the situation room" talking with saudi arabia's foreign minister about his country skipping this white house meeting for gulf countries this week? >> the saudi ambassador to the united states. now the foreign minister of sewage his first interview since becoming foreign minister. lots to discuss including the surprise decision by the king the new king of saudi arabia, supposed to be at this major camp david summit the president has with all of these sunni arab gulf states scheduled for this week and all of a sudden over the weekend he's not coming. i'll ask why. >> and a lot of countries upset with the possible nuclear deal with iran. thinking its t

. ♪ our dnc is what they're calling me ♪ >> colin powell is equally musically challenged. here he is singing at a security meeting in indonesia. and bad boy blagojevich is caught on camera taking on elvis. ♪ >> yikes. don't quit your day jobs, fellas. oh, wait, never mind. perhaps they should have made a speedy escape like president bush tried to do after this press conference. >> this was one of the famous episodes with george bush looking like he didn't know what he was doing because he didn't even know where the door was. >> i was trying to escape. >> and talk about wanting to escape, who can forget vice president dan quayle exercising his spelling expertise in front of the cameras. >> add one little bit on the end. potato. you wrote phonetically. what else? there you go. >> i wouldn't try your luck at, are you smarter than a fifth grader, dan. >> i guess he was wrong and i was right. >> and speaking of a gaffe with an "e" on the end, here's a technical one. >> and you're in my way of my script, there, if you will move. >> and don't you just hate those meetings that g

third, colin powell's pottery barn rule. if youot break it you own it. just as when the kennedy administration in november 1963 was complicit in the coup against south vietnam. fourth and most important, the phrase nation building is as absurd as orchid building. we do not know how to build nations any more than we do with home-grown detroit. >> so where does that leave us and where does it leave the debate in 2015 and '16 with all that we need to do with the middle east going to hell in a hand basket and putin and all that we know about? >> being drawn by the logic of the criticism of barack obama and saying we should go back in with ground troops and you have to credit the sincerity and logical nature.ot >> both of them -- they are talking about 10 or 20,000. >> that would count as an invasion 20,000 people going into a country. but leaving that aside, beyond that the lesson is that isis and the islamic state is a big problem for barack obama. the more they criticize him, it's going to be a big problem for republicans who are going to be challenged you

and also former secretary colin powell was there. so they of course took every precaution. >> rosa flores many thanks. i appreciate it. checking some other top stories for you at 19 minutes past the hour. the former prime minister ehud olmert sentenced to eight months in prison. the former prime minister of israel, i should have said. he was sentenced for illegally accepting money from an american supporter. olmert fined about $25,000. he was also sentenced to six years in a separate bribery trial last year. olmert is appealing both decisions. >>> the new orleans police department is investigating after an officer is shot and killed in his patrol car. the victim's cruiser apparently rolling forward until it eventually hit a curb after the shooting. we don't have the officer's name but we do know we was 45 years old and worked for the public housing agency. the new orleans mayor calling the shooting a vile and cowardly act. >>> still to come a judge acquits a cop in the shooting death of two unarmed people saying deadly force was just

. >> you get açó guy like colin powell on televisiord -- Ñi >> i wasn't drinking the kool aid. >> maybe, maybe. i'm just telling you i don't know if that is going to relate. >> at that time we finished with the vietnam era, be careful about getting into another quagmire. >> look what's happening with bocaharam. >> now, you're updating the resume. what would you do? to defeat isis what would you go? >> go back to what works. strong alliances around the world. >> president obama have coalitions, he's got 60. that should be enough to get these guys. >> senator clinton says the decision to go into iraq weakens our standing in the world. made our ability to put together these alliances more difficult because we lost our credibility. there were no weapons of mass destruction. >> that is it for us. thanks for watching this special edition of "the factor". i am bill o'reilly and please remember, the spin stops here we're definitely looking out for you. >>> good evening, everyone and welcome to a "the kelly file" special, what is ailing america, i'm megyn kelly. the 2016 race for the white house

i found it interesting in working on the book, colin powell the first african-american chairman of the joint keeves of staff writes in his book that being in the army helped me love my country. the fact is we have a troubled history of race regs relations in this country and it was surprise to a lot of people that guess what, barack obama was on his way to the white house. >> oo and michelle came in as the first lady, and we have gotten used do seeing her not just at state functions but on youtube, dancing with jimmy fallon she is really made a name for herself as very likeable very approachable. but still there's that other part of the country that sees her through a different lens. that is a caricature that is racialized cartoons are mean and hurtful. how does michelle manage that? how does she react? is there any sense it's hurtful? >> guest: there are a couple of ways to look that. think become to the criticism she got on the campaign trail after those remarks about being proud of her country for the first time, and her speeches on the campaign trail where she talked about how the

let coal -- colin powell on it. >> put john boehner on it. >> i'm serious. give them real power, take nine months to a year hold hearings and be honest. it has to be honest from the bottom up as well as from the top down. the fact is, pigmentation is still a big part where we go to have problems. people look at each other, they look at a cop from thor in city and they apply all kinds of preconceived notions. white people look at black people and apply all kinds of preconceived notions. we have to get beyond that. we have to have an honest conversation, which we refuse to do. >> he is preaching on sunday morning. >> yes, he is. >>> when we come back, my interview with speaker of the house john boehner. >> when i say hillary clinton, what do you say? 'm having birthday brunch with my family. when my husband hands me a present. a galaxy s6! so i call my mom. i have verizon! i don't. she couldn't really hear me. i tell her how much she means to me. but she thinks i said she was always mean to me. i could hear how happy she was. now she definitely loves my sister

as colin powell used to say, the pottery barn rule you break thank you bought it. it's already badly broken and i don't know if we want to take ownership of this. so i understand the frustration with how long this is taking and the setbacks in ramadi which are real and serious. at the same time we don't want to get sucked in in a way that we take ownership of this whole crisis. >> what are the risks of that, congressman zincee? >> there is always risks, and time will tell the specific type of operation yields the kind of information warranted. i think you need to look at what we have in place, the commitment of delta force and s.e.a.l. team 6, and they judge whether they can successfully enter given the enormity and the complexity of the operation, so i trust our senior military commanders, if they say they can do it i will stand by them they're going to do it. but this is a war. and it's important to look at the intelligence network. if you find a node that you can penetrate, that you can eliminate, and draw more information for future operations, i think it's pru

powell and adjunct professor at the college of william and mary. sir, is jeb bush trying to box in hillary clinton with this question slyly doing an in-run around her? >> i think he was trying to get out of his answer himself. you know, i flirted with the idea of returning to my party, at least for this presidential election and perhaps even voting for jeb because i thought he was a pretty rational person. but this kind of comment coming from him without any more context is sort of like john mccain's moment when he picked sarah palin to be his vice president, or mitt romney's moment when he more or less disqualified half of the american people for any merit. it's not a good moment. >> so your reaction to jeb bush saying he would have authorized the 2003 iraq war also what do you make of that? besides what you just said is it also trying to retro actively justify what his brother did as well? >> it is. there's no question about that. and i understand familial feelings, but it's also a statement of gross error, in my regard because the intelligence w

general colin powell told us what a soldier's duty is it's to kill the enemy. when we allowed our politicians to push cops into a war that they'll never win, that they can't win and let them begin to think of themselves as soldiers the mentality comes that anything goes. studies show black and white people consume and sell drugs at similar rates. people who have been to college know how easy it is to get drugs. but police focus their militaristic drug war tactics on the hood because it's easy to get arrests there. but are all those arrests making a difference? is a militaristic posture making us safer? a retired dea agent wrote raiding family homes in the middle of the night didn't win many hearts and minds of vietnam vets and it's unsuccessful here. this is particularly true in the black community. at the basis of our current policing crisis is that the war on drugs has forced our police officers into war footing that violates the basic tenets of policing and makes it harder for them to do effective police work. if we really want to have better policing, we mu

colin powell served two wars -- two tours in vietnam. george w. bush authorized that and said, fine, we will give you what you need to get it done. we talk a lot in the book about how that was a successful use of u.s. military power, and it accomplish what it was supposed to call bush -- supposed to college. the other aspect of the powell doctrine was an exit strategy which they had. they administration, the bush and mr. asian, decided no, we will end it -- the bush administration, decided no, we will end it. it led to part two with george w. bush. we write in the book that it was successful and the right decision for them. host: marvin kalb just one or two minutes left, by what you to address the immediate question about the caller brings up. if there was a war like world war ii, with the media and the public allow a war to be prosecuted like world war ii was with overwhelming force. guest: i would like to answer that with a 50 minute lecture, by note we did not have the time. we live now in a totally different environment. there has been a revol

some of the big names in attendance gloria estefan and former secretary of state colin powell. >> thank you so much for that. >>> meanwhile, also breaking news overnight. ehud olmert sentenced for eight months in prison. fined $25,000 as well. he was also sentenced to six years in a second bribery trial last year. >>> the nation is pausing on this memorial day to honor those who have fallen in our nation. showing you live arlington national cemetery the president will lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown. other top officials will pay their respects where many of those killed in iraq and afghanistan are buried. and on this memorial day, cnn is honoring the men and women who died serving our country. we'd like you to share our photos your stories and memories of the veterans you have lost. you can post on instagram or twitter a hashtag cnn remembers. >>> more ahead on that cleveland officer acquitted in the death of those two unarmed people. was justice served or does the verdict leave other officers opened to attack? we'll dedate all of that. i'm caridee. i've had moderate to severe p

more like colin powell. >> let me get one more story in here at least. former senator and 2012 presidential candidate rick santorum became the 7th republican to officially enter the race for 2016. he kicked off his campaign near his childhood home in pennsylvania. santorum highlighted his blue collar background to appeal to middle class voters and also took a shot at hillary clinton. >> this is a piece of coal. this is where high american story started. my grandfather was a coalminer who brought my dad 7-year-old aldo, from fascist italy. like millions of other americans, he didn't come for this. he came for this. freedom. hillary clinton and big business business, they have called for a massive influx in unskilled labor. business does it because they want to control costs. hillary does it well, she just wants votes. their priorities are profits and power. my priority is you the american worker. >> okay. we've got santorum, pataki expected to announce today. >> i know we have to get to one more story. rick santorum we had him on here. regardless of what

what is going to happen over there, the middle east and colin powell and senior bush knew exactly what they were doing when they did not kick them out of there. look what is happening. host: that is larry. here is "the washington times." "obama considers more military advisors for iraq." it would consider sending more military advisors to iraq, although president obama does not believe the us-led coalition is losing the war against the islamic state -- here is how "the new york times." " defending issa policy, obama acknowledges flaws. peter baker writes that -- that is "the new york times." the president spoke at the coast guard graduation ceremony in connecticut. here is what he had to say. president obama: -- constitutes a serious threat to global security. a risk to our national security. make no mistake. it will impact how our military defends our country. so we need to act now. after all, isn't that the true hallmark of leadership? when you're on deck stand in watch, you stay vigilant. you plan for every contingency. if you see storm clouds gathering or dangerous shoals ahead, yo

colin powell use the same device for both official and personal e-mails. he never revealed his personal e-mails nor actually explained why he mixed business with personal. yet, you did not mention general colin powell, an extremely honorable man. i'm saying, you used a double standard. let's talk about jeb bush who o i have described as honorable and respectable. you did not mention him. that may reflect your bias or double standard, or maybe you just forgot. he had half a million evils over eight years -- i believe that number is right -- on his own server. he separated out his own business and retain public business. he did not mention that. his server personal business. no different than mrs. clinton. finally, let me suggest that you look at the law. the leading lawyer at the archives and administration, the one quoted in the first "new york times" story was asked on cnn, did hillary do anything illegal or violate any rules? did she do anything illegal or violate any rules? that lawyers said no. that is a fact. what she did was legal ethical and retaini

powell at the end of the reagan administration, we were helping iraq in its war against iran. i remember working on some intelligence sharing arrangements, sending agricultural credit commodities under agricultural credits to the country of iraq and so forth. so we have kind of an interesting history of involvement in that part of the world. on the current situation in the negotiations between the western countries, mainly welcome is more than the western countries the p5+1 with iran there is an agreement in the offering. i don't think it's been committed to an actual text you. i don't think it's treaty language but it seems there's going to be some kind of a deal, if it gets completed, which would limit the nature of some of the equipment that they have centrifuges and so forth. their numbers, their quality. it would also place some limits on the amount of material and what level of refinement that material is at their uranium, enrichment of their uranium. it would place limits, it would allow for inspection for at least 10 years, a variety of facilities iran. but we haven't

but someone at a chronically when i was diplomatic national security adviser under colin powell during the reagan-bush administration were helping iraq with its war against iran. i remember working on intelligence sharing arrangements sending agricultural credit to the country of iraq so we have an interesting history of involvement in that part of the world. with the current situation in the negotiations of the western countries the p5 + 1 the river say an agreement. -- there is an agreement. it seems if there is a deal or a treaty if it gets completed would limit to the nature the equipment that they have the centrifuge and so forth the numbers and quality, and also place limits on the material and one level of refinement it is that and it would place limits on inspection of at least 10 years with a variety of facilities but we have not yet seen the final deal and that would depend on the details. my impression from what i have heard is the key issue is really inspection with the ability of international inspectors to have of access to the various areas and facilities so they can ass

when i worked with colin powell, i was his deputy, he did not even have an intelligence briefing every day. we were his national security and deputy national security advisers respectively. we would simply give him the daily brief, and he was at his leisure to read it during the course of the day, and by the end of the day, he would give it back to us. occasionally, if there was an article that we felt we should highlight for him, we would do that. different presidents have different styles. bill clinton, apparently, did not ever meet an intelligence briefer. there was the famous story about the crash of the plane on the white house line, and they joke that it was the cia director try to get in to see the president. anyway, we had a good customer. i'm sure that he became an even better customer after 9/11. the second point i would like to make, before getting to a topic is that i thought peter baker and others this morning made a very good point when they said that you really have to think of the presidency as dynamic evolving and the essentially you have two phases of the bush preside

once you budget like colin powell said, the supreme court is going to decide on the obamacare. they call it dynamic scoring. i would call it biggest lie in the world. it is the best fiction in the world. what do you think? what he think of the account beyond what they asked for? -they get away with this thing -- how can they get away with this thing? the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves. host: lots of questions. start to explain what the ryan-murphy deal was that he referenced in the beginning. guest: the ryan-murphy deal was a couple of years ago. paul ryan, who was chairman of the senate budget committee, and patty murray was the chairman of the senate budget committee and they reach an agreement to slightly raise the domestic and defense caps on we have on spending and found some offset in mandatory spending and a very small amount of revenue through loophole closures. anyway, i think they were called fees instead of taxes. at any rate, it was not really a big deal, but it was a big bipartisan agreement that got them past the shutdown. i think the same thing