pinckney scott. >> pelley: michelle, thanks very much. as we were much whatting the president leave the stage we saw him speak with his wife, the first lady. and then he crossed the aisle to give his condolences and his hugs to the reverend pinckney's wife and his two daughters who are aged 11 and 6. jeff pegues is also in charleston for us tonight jeff? >> reporter: scott, i was struck by the theme of the speech. of course the president talking about grace and going back to about a week

. >> reporter: reverend clemente pinckney who served as a state senator, was silenced along with six women and two other men at this historic black church. survivors relayed horrifying details to pinckney's family. his cousin told affiliate wis the killer was intent on his target. >> he asked for the approximates for, where's the pastor? he sat next to my cousin, reverend clemente pinckney throughout the entire bible study. >> reporter: witnesses say the pastor was preaching when he was shot. today, the senate session in charleston began with a somber remembrance. >> we seek this morning to gather and honor one of our own, one whom we love with all of our hearts. >> reporter: pinckney's empty desk in the state capitol decorated in his honor. the 41-year-old father of two had been serving in south carolina's legislature for nearly two decades. >> just a sweet, loving man. a dedicated public servant to his community and also dedicated servant to his faith and his congra investigation. >> if we could pow our head forth a word of prayer -- >> reporter: among those pinckney led in prayer

take a look at the memorial service underway now for reverend clemente pinckney. i believe there is [ inaudible ] middleson who is speaking now, kkylan middleton. we'll come back and have more from this service underway right now. >>> take a look at the -- this is the td arena, where the funeral service is happening right now for state senator pinckney reverend pinckney religious leaders, political leaders, all on hand. reverend clemente pinckney was one of nine killed at the emanual ame church shooting. let's go back to the arena on the college of charleston campus. as we do let's bring in our del walters. he is in charleston and if you would, del, set the scene. i know people have been gathering to try to get into that arena for hours this morning, and the service is now well underway. >> reporter: the tony has been underway since 11:00. i heard one person say they have a little church going on up there. there are several pastors speaking and several family members of the victim have been speaking. gunmen have killed 28 people at a popular tourist resort in tuni

one was clemente pinckney. someone draped his seat in the south carolina state house with a black cloth. >> communities across the country are praying for the families of the victims. people are looking at how to balance the open arms of the church with the sense of security for the faithful. >> the questions have yet to be answered. government motivation still not fully understood. the shock and sadness after the shootings at the ame church in south carolina. >> at first it was a personal reaction because i knew the pastor. >> reporter: a gunfire that took pastor clen pastor clemente pinckney's life. they say the gunman was at the bible study meeting for an hour before he began firing. questions of openness are weighed against those of safety. >> they feel like they are going through a tsa line when they come to church. the vulnerability inherent in being open and hospitable and how last night as often happens the kind of veneer or illusion of security was again pierced by bullets. the larger issue for local m

the church's reverend clemente pinckney. a woman and her 5-year-old yerld granddaughter played dead. >> her son was also supposed to play dead but he wanted to check on my cousin the reverend clemt clemente pinckney. and when he got up that's when the gunman questioned him and started you know saying y'all rape our women. and you all have taken over the country. >> he said that he thought that the black -- the black in general as a race was bringing down the white race. >> roof was captured just outside charlotte, north carolina, 12 hours after the wednesday night shooting. resident be debbie dill spotted the accused mass killer and call called 911. >> they got him. no incident. nobody else got hurt. >> as local, state and federal law enforcement officers investigate this possible hate crime, the roommate of the suspect said he had been planning this for months. he wanted to start a civil war. but i can tell you guys we've only seen unity from a grieving community. reporting live here in charleston south carolina. >> sorry t

mourners praying at the empty chair of their beloved refer rend clemente pinckney, the state senator who was among the victims. we have several reports from south carolina tonight beginning with elaine quijano. ♪ ♪ you are so-- . >> reporter: the pews overflowed sunday at the eme emmanuel church with lifelong parishners and strange ares there not just to mourn but also send a message of love and healing. reverend norwell. >> no evil doer or in heaven or hell can close the doors of god's church. >> reporter: just four days after a white grudgeman allegedly killed nine black church goers including the pastor thousands showed their solidarity swinging and swaying to gospel hits. ♪ you can lean on me ♪ ♪. >> reporter: reverend g the reverend led the congregation in prayers. >> we are reminded this morning about the freshness of death. it comes like a thief in the night. it's been lost. some of vus been down right angry. but through it all god has sustained us. >> reporter: the worshippers black and white lined up well before the doors opened. security was tight. police searched

he knew the reverend clemente pinckney. they had worked together on his first presidential campaign. there now has been movement and it seems quite likely that the confederate battle flag will be removed from the capital but the president said that that is not enough. more needs to be done to bring about racial equality in this country. he said this is a pretty good example of what we've seen in charleston. the shooter said that he was ready for a police report. basically people of all colors is going it happen, it will happen. ed. before the supreme court historying rulic gay and lesbian couples were allowed to marry in 36 states. >> as the public brings out cheers outside of the supreme court, it's decision that same sex marriage ban has to go. >> we want rights for all people of all colors, all creed. all nationalities and all. >> 14 states mainly in the south and which had west will be brought into line in front everyone. they wrote celebrating the opportunity for new expression for a partner. celebrate the aville abili

people will be able to pay their respects to clemente pinckney. the other eight victims of the ame shooting will be laid to rest starting tomorrow morning through next week. >>> another state is taking action against the confederate flag, which has been part of the controversial surrounding the charleston shooting. is robert bentley said that the flag was becoming a distraction and it was the right thing to do. crews took down three natural confederate flags at that memorial. >>> doug brannen, who was friends with reverend clemente pinyckney he said that the lax gun laws was the problem at the charleston massacre. >> last year we passed a bill that says if one has ever been deemed incompetent they can no longer possess a firearm. i just heard in the piece before you came to me that the shooter in this incident legally purchased a gun. this shooter didn't have a criminal record. he had been arrested but not convicted. i'm an attorney. i'm not prepared to get to the point where we take one's rights away for a charge. we still live in a country where

a bodythe body of senator clemente pinckney is lying in state. he was killed long with eight others at a church last week. president obama is due to speak at his funeral on friday. earlier the governor of the southern u.s. state of alabama has ordered the confederate flag to be taken down at the capitol building. it was brandished as a symbol of hate by pinckney's killer. >> france has responded with outrage to revelations to wikileaks website that the u.s. spied on franÇois hollande and two of his predecessors. he spoke on the phone with barack obama who assured him that the u.s. is not spying on his calls or other communications. the u.s. ambassador was summoned by the country's top diplomat. here's what he had to say after that meeting. >> i summoned the u.s. ambassador to tell her one this was unacceptable. two, we want to know whether these practices as ceased. and three to ask whether these practices were only used in relation to the present or more generally. while we understand that there might be surveillance concerning terrorists that

in south carolina, the body of state senator and pastor clemente pinckney, one of those nine people killed in a charleston church, is going to make its way via horse drawn carriage to the state capitol building. also live this hour, president obama announcing a major policy shift to help bring home some americans held hostage by overseas terrorists. but some people fear the new strategy may only encourage more kidnappings. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, welcome, this is "legal view." any moment now, we're expecting a news conference on that manhunt for two very dangerous escaped killers, murderers, who made their way out of the clinton correctional facility in new york, and that was 19 days ago. the search has been on ever since. we have a lot of new developments to tell you about. first, a law enforcement official tells cnn that prison tailor joyce mitchell used baked goods to essentially facilitate their escape. we're going to break from those developments for a moment to bring you the news out of south carolina. i mentio

pinckney is among those dead. >> i have been there as you said. i was there for walter scott. i had police protection. there is always -- >> what about it? >> there is always an inferred threat. i will say that if you can't go to bible study in a church, and if you can have refuge in a church, then we have to ask all of us, where is refuge? where can we go? we are talking about people that were in a church doing church-related activities. pastor in the church other members of the church. this is as bad as it can get, but we cannot equal the madness or the badness. we have to try to see clear through a very, very difficult situation tonight and find answers and answers we will find. >> reverend, we know that state senator, clemente pinckney's family has been notified that he was indeed killed in tonight could be horrible shooting. >> my reaction is that i am absolutely -- 1st of all prayer and condolences. as i said, when i was told about this less than three hours ago, and when i was told this and he still with us at the walter scott vigil and pra

clement pinckney was also a member of the state senate. his funeral will be held tomorrow and president obama will give the eulogy. >>> nation's oldest and largest flag maker has decided to stop making and selling the confederate flag in the wake of the mass shooting in charleston. dylann roof posted a picture of him with the flag online. the flag business has been in business since 1847. the company's president says the flag is a negative symbol of the country's past and it represents only a small portion of the company's business. quinn flags of hanover, york county usually sells the flags to souvenir shops. >> the confederate flag is part of our history and not part of our future any more. it's too important to continue with such an emotional people and negative connotation, unfortunately. >> the company plans to destroy all confederate flags it has on hand. >>> valley forge flag company made a similar decision. they are pulling the confederate flag from its website and telling plant managers to cancel pending orders. >>> a nice start t

and today will be the funeral for clemente pinckney. president obama will deliver the eulogy this afternoon. >> his body lay in state at the state capitol on wednesday where hundreds filed past his coffin to pay their respects. the front of his church behind us. it's become a growing memorial. this sign still listing him as the pastor. >> funerals for the rest of the victims will be held this weekend and throughout next week. and with us now here in charleston pullser prize winning columnist and analyst, eugene robinson. we also have the host of "politics nation" and president of the national action network, reverend al sharpton with us. >> we have a lot to get to here. we got a lot of news. we're going to go to willie in a minute for that news. really briefly, your state, gene robinson, a state you grew up. the state you love but also a state with so many problems. over the past week i remember us sitting and watching the family members and wondering where the grace came from. the peace that surpasses all human understanding. it has be

you know he is going to deliver the eulogy for clemente pinckney later this week. and i look forward to what he says there. it will be a more formal setting. it just seemed to me if the president is going to be recorded as saying something about such a horrific act at this time i guess i'm old fashioned. i wanted it to be more formal. and more constructive. and more -- >> but don't you think so much of his presidency has been formal and constructed? >> well -- >> i mean -- [inaudible]. >> -- constructed way about this. he did make an official statement. this is a different audience. >> he's talking about race. >> the first day he came out and talked about guns and in a tone of resignation. and then the next day he was more forceful at the council of mayors. and then he was on the pod cast. being -- i don't know if it's more forceful. more raw. >> candid. >> whatever you want to call it. and i'm still waiting for him, you know, to stand up and tell us how we as a nation should look at this. where we are. and where we need to go. >> i guess i'm having a hard time rec

. >> reporter: local civil rights leaders tell cbs station wcsc that state senator clement pinckney is among the dead. pinckney is also a pastor at the church. >> these people were in church. they were in church. >> yes, sir. >> and they violated the sanctity of that! >> reporter: so far authorities haven't released the victims' identities. brian webb for cbs news. >> the charleston police chief says there are survivors but not clear how many. the south carolina governor said in a statement overnight, we'll never understand what motivates anyone to enter one of our places of worship and take the life of another. >>> speculation is focusing in on the condition of the wood used to build the balcony as investigators try to find out what caused the deadly collapse this week in berkeley. anne makovec joins us live in berkeley as tributes continue to pour in for the young people who died. anne. >>> reporter: part of kittredge here in berkeley still blocked off for the investigation. several dozen candles burning near the building. and some of the families are arriving here from ireland to fa

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. >> in a lot of ways the white house painted this as purely an eulogy for senator clemente pinckney. but the president veered off and said if you want to honor those in this ceremony, we would have to do more. he kept going back to gun control. but when it came to race relations he said something has to change. we can't forget about it as soon as the cameras leave and the memorial is cleaned up. it is an issue as i found out for one long-time resident in north carolina. >> almost 90 years old he has lived it. he was born in charleston, south carolina at the time a legally segregated city. >> i was in the company of african who is had survived enslavement, and we're pushing now into the frontiers of freedom. that's quite a thing to realize. he said his father was the first in his family to be born free. he said it wasn't until he moved north in his 20s to a city where blacks had free movement to realize what living under segregation had done to him. >> i was downtown in baltimore getting ready to go to a restaurant and i found myself looking for the signs to tell me where to go. and i

. >> the body of south carolina senator clemente pinckney was lying in state. the governor of alabama has ordered the confederate flag to be taken down from the capitol building. it was brandished as a symbol of hate. >> the claims that washington spied on three consecutive french presidents. >> i summoned the u.s. ambassador to tell her one this is unexcelible. and two if these practices have ceased and three to ask if these practices were only used in relation to the president or more generally. whale we understand that there might be surveillance concerning terrorists that had nothing to do with listening in on allied heads of states and on friends. i ask for answers to be given rapidly. >> earlier in the day president franÇois hollande called an emergency meeting to discuss the revelations. they said that the country would not tolerate actions that would threaten national security. the claims reported in the french daily and wikileaks website said that the eavesdropping happened between 2006 and 2012. paris said it will send a special intelligence team to

one of them was the church pastor, state senator clemente pinckney. we're waiting to learn the identity of the other victims. >> a manhunt is under way in charleston. a short time ago the police released a photo of the suspect and his black four-door car. right now they're holding a news conference. we'll monitor the conference and will bring you any new information. jeff pegues is downtown in charleston. that's the scene of the shooting. >> reporter: it now marks the scene of one of the worst mass shootings in charleston south carolina. there's a large crowd as the manhunt for this killer is well under way and this morning investigators are asking for the public's health. >> 110 calhoun street imam well ame church. >> reporter: police say a white male opened fire inside the historic emanuel ame church. people were inside gathered for bible study. >> it's unfathomable that somebody in today's society would walk into a church when people are having a prayer meeting and take their lives. >> reporter: at least nine people are dead. eight were killed at t

president obama delivered a eulogy for reverend clemente pinckney. he was gunned down along with eight others in his church. >> it has been any emotional two weeks for the people of charleston. >> there were hymns ♪ ♪ >> and prayers. >> it is well. when peace like a river attended my way. >> when president obama took the stage he was met with thunderous applause remembering the nine victims as people of grace and reverend and state senator as a man of duty. >> he never gave up. he stayed true to his convictions. he never grew discouraged after a full day at the capital he would climb into his car and head to the church and draw sustenance for his family, for his ministry, for the community that loved and needed him. >> the president mixed spiritual with politics calling for tighter gun laws. >> it would an portrayal of everything that reverend pincney stood for i believe if we allowed ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence again. once the eulogies have been delivered. once the tv cameras moved on. to go back to business as usual. >> the pre

but one has been identified as clemente pinckney. and histhe description of the suspect is sandy blond hair. and antiviolence groups have been holding regular prayer sessions and providing support for anyone who wants to be there. but in the mean time the focus is on finding the suspect and make sure no further violence can occur. >> and we know they've brought in several agencies to help out with that search. and once again, nine people have been killed in this church shooting in south carolina. the gun plnman is still at large. now back to "hardball".." >> well i may not be the youngest candidate in this race but i will be the youngest woman president in the history of the united states. [ applause ] >> welcome back to "hardball." well hillary clint could make history if she makes to the white house but she has to make it past the republican opponents. and poles show several potential gop rivals could give her a run for her money. and hillary leads marco rubio by four and jeb bush by 3. and she ties rand paul in pennsylvania. and h

there are public viewings for sat sen for clemente pinckney. some of the victims family members were there. >> i am hurt. i am angry but i am not in a spirit or an attitude that would lend itself to hate. that's not going to happen. >> confessed killer, dylann roof now has public federal defenders, meaning he will face federal charges in addition to the nine murder charges he faces in south carolina. >>> whole foods is in a whole lot of trouble. authorities in new york are investigating the grocery chain for allegedly overpricing items. as nbc craig melvin reports. whole foods is fighting back. >> some shoppers have become accustomed to sometimes paying higher prices for high quality fair at upscale markets no one was considered when they tested 80 different prepackaged products at whole foods, they found all of the products they tested had mislabeled weights mink customers are being overcharged. >> sometimes it was $2, $3. sometimes it was $6. we are talking about significant sums of money which really add up over time. >> the u.s. department

remembering the victims as people of praise and remembered reverend clemente pinckney as a man of duty. >> after a full day at the capitol he would climb in his car and head to the church to draw sustenance from his family. from his family, from his ministry. from the community that loved and needed him. there he would fortify his face. >> but the president mixed spirituality with politics calling for tighter gun laws. >> it would be a betrayal of everything that reverend pinckney stood for if we allowed ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence once again. once the eulogy have been delivered. once the tv cameras move on, to go back to business as usual. that's what we so often do. >> the president spoke to 5,000 mourners packed into the arena to pay tribute to pinckney and others who were gunned down at the emmanuel ame church. huge crowds endured 90-degree heat and waited a half mile to get inside. this ten-year-old and his grandmother and cousin once attended bible study with pinckney. they drove three hours to be here and then drove another three hours in line to pay their respe

that's where he will deliver the eulogy at the funeral for reverend clemente pinckney. >> the first lady and joe biden will attend the funeral. one other victim is being laid to rest this week. >>> the first black woman elected to congress is returning donations to earl holt earl holt inspired the admitted shooter, dylann roof. she said she would return the donations that holt made to her campaign. >> he has made doe neighs to rick santorum rand paul and ted cruz. they are all donating money to assist the families of the victims. >>> earl holt is the president of a white supremacist movement. >> and the southern poverty law center identifies the ccc as a hate group. drew griffin has more on the movement. >> reporter: the council of conservative citizens believes that whites are under attack and whites need to wake up before the race is destroyed. on its website it lists black on white crimes that go unreported. points of view almost identical to the so-called manifesto and reasons on the website owned by the charleston shooter, justifying an attack on black people praying in a church. th

. ♪ jesus says you can lean on me meme me ♪ >> pastor reverend clemente pinckney the reverend sharonda singleton. sister cynthia hurd myra thompson, sister susie jackson. ♪ lean on me and i won't let you fall ♪ >> those of us who know jesus, we can look through the windows of our faith and we see hope and we see light. and we can hear your voice saying i'm with you. always. even to the end of the world. ♪ jesus say you can i won't let you fall ♪ >> if we are people of faith, we will join faith and begin to work together. to forge a new partnership. not them against us. but we are the children of god. who will be marching on to victory. >>> reacting there with love and unity. and the shootings in charleston have stirred up the debate on gun control in the united states. on cnn's state of the union with jake tapper charleston mayor joe riley weighed in on gun violence in the u.s. take a listen. >> the country is just having a very difficult time dealing with the proliferation of guns. and we have to use this most recent tragedy to keep us working on that. we have to do that. it i

. >>> welcome back pastor clemente pinckney was laid to rest yesterday. he was gunned down at an historic black church in charleston. president obama who considered him a friend delivered the eulogy and praised renewed efforts to remove the confederate flag in south carolina. >> removing the flag from this state's capitol would not be an act of political correctness. it would not be an insult to the valor of confederate soldiers it would simply be an acknowledgement that the cause ebate over the federal flag a symbol embraced by the 21-year-old gunman. the confederate flag is still flying high despite being taken down by a woman who climbed the flagpole and tore it down. there are growing calls to remove it permanently but many still support the flag and what they believe it stands for. joining me now is jeff owe cane the former commander of a sons of confederate veterans chapter. why do you think it should continue to fly? >> it's a war memorial to over 25,000 men when called to duty by their state to bear arms they defended the state of south carolina a

including state senator clemente pinckney. >> the lord teaches us to love all. >> reporter: the beloved pastor of this grieving congregation. the church is op the other side of the crime scene tape. there is a big pile of flowers left for people stopping by to pay their respects. abc news, charleston, south carolina. >>> developing news now, police are investigating a shootout between two cars in an emoryville parking lot. police tell us the incident happened around 2:00 p.m. there are no reports of in i injuries. police did block off much of the lot with crime scene tape. >>> an autopsy today shows the six students killed in a balcony collapse in berkeley died from multiple injuries caused by the impact of the five-story fall. workers are removing what's left of the balcony. people are stopping by a growing memorial there. the victims were all standing on that balcony tuesday morning celebrating a birthday when it suddenly collapsed. for the first time today we heard from one of the seven students hurt. shawn left a note on the wall. >>> new details on the teacher outrage in sunny vail

one of whom was a friend of mine clemente pinckney the pastor, he was just a jewel of a person, a prince of a man a god-fearing guy that believed in building bridges. what we look for as to the reasons why this happened it's hard to understand when evil is just over taking the heart the mind is just demented, this was a case of racism. his actions were driven by hatred, that is the clear and dominant reason this happened. >> dickerson: when you look at the shooter's manifesto senator, it is extraordinary. he says that there is not enough racism in the world and that that is what this -- what drove him to this action. what is your reaction to that? >> well, there's no doubt that when your mind and heart are consumed with hatred and with racist motivation that he's creates a race war according to i believe his own words in this country. what he's done for south carolina, what he's done for charleston he's brought our community together. one of the beautiful scenes that was etched into my memory now is that morris brown church, we had such a diverse gathering of south carolinaians coming to

brendan: the body of clement to pinckney -- clement to pinckney -- clementa pinckney -- hillary clinton took up this struggle of race. >> we cannot hide from hard truths about race and justice. we have to name them and on them and change them. brendan: ken goldstein joins us right now from washington. you wrote about whether or not hillary clinton can reassemble the obama coalition. it was in carolina where she began to lose the black vote how do she recapture at this time? guest: hillary clinton and barack obama were basically breaking even with african-american voters and then president obama has his recount victory. a proof of concept that he can actually win and then a couple of weeks later, barack obama gets 90% of the african-american vote. i think african-americans are a firewall for clinton in the democratic primary which does not look to be particularly competitive. then in the general election it is crucial for her general election prospect as well. >> we used to effort to bill clinton as the first african-american president. is his legacy important for her now? guest: you sta

what your response is or how you found the comments of president obama during the eulogy for pastor clemente pinckney this weekend. >> i found his comments incredibly powerful for exactly the reason we are discussing. he said listen this isn't about a conversation about the valour of your an ses source. this is a conversation about what this war is over and what they were fighting for. that is not something that we can celebrate. i think the only thing the next step in this conversation where he didn't quite go was the connection between that history of slavery and present day reality in the united states. because that legacy -- i want the flag taken down. i want it retired to a museum but i don't want us to stop talking about the legacy of slavery and how that impacts things like wealth disparities in america and how that impacts our attitudes, how we see black people. the whole idea of black lives not mattering, that's rooted in slavery. that's the source of it. >> yes, the activities of the last ten days i've said definitely put an exclamation point on race relations not only in south car

first will be on wednesday, a viewing for state senator clemente pinckney who will be viewed in the rotunda of the state capitol. jamie? >> even hearing presidential candidates talk about the confederate flag and controversy over there being flown there and the community must be speaking about it as well mike. what are you hearing? >> reporter: quite a bit, and the governor's of course now the official channels at the governor's office say an announcement is coming from governor nikki haley as wire reports are citing leaks that the announcement will be removal of the flag from the state capitol. many calls for removal since the masz ker here. a press conference to that effect earlier today in north charleston. >> for them to tell you that the flag does not represent hatred oppression, discrimination means that either they are flatly lying or sorely misinformed. >> reporter: the interim minister at the mother emanuel church here is one of the voices that says now is the time to pay respect for the lives lost. debate about the flag can come later. >> jamie? >> mike tobin, thank you starting w

we've learned the wife and 6-year-old daughter of reverend clemente pinckney heard the gunfire and hid under a desk in the pastor's office during the shooting. she tried to reach her husband on the cell phone. got no answer. she later learned her husband, the girl's father and the pastor of the church died in the attack. i spoke to her just before the brad cast. >> i know the refuse rent pinckney's wife was in the church with her daughter when the attack happened and called it in to police. can you take us through her story of that night? i know you have talked to her. >> jennifer said she heard some gunshots. and she paused for a minute and then she started hearing more. and she thought something was going on. >> she wasn't at the bible study? she was in a separate room? >> no. she was in a separate room. she was in the pastor's office. >> so she heard the shots. and then what? >> she heard the shots. and then she -- she grabbed the baby -- she had her 6-year-old daughter. and she went under the desk and called 911. >> and i understand the 911 operator told her to stay on the line wit

clemente pinckney, the pastor of the church and south carolina state senator was also killed. >> ems command base an active shooter. multiple people down. >> how in 2015, could nine people attending a bible study group be gunned down inside this historic black church in charleston, south carolina. soon the strange and awful story began to unfold. >> why did you do it? >> of the young white man who sat for an hour with his victims before he shot them. reportedly uttering racial slurs and saying "i had to do it" okay, another mass shooting. another lone wolf gunman, another aurora, another newtown. or was this something different? an ugly echo of the 1963 bombing of the 16th street baptist church in birmingham, alabama where four little girls were killed. >> these churches were both targeted because they were used by black people. >> i've been in philadelphia longer than i've been anywhere. >> mark kelly tile is he senior mass for at mother bethel church in philadelphia. we spoke to him and another ame church in hear gleam you say this young man is 21. at 1 born after the huxtables. ho

in south carolina, the body of state senator and pastor clemente pinckney, one of those nine people killed in a charleston church, is going to make its way via horse drawn carriage to the state capitol building. also live this hour, president obama announcing a major policy shift to help bring home some americans held hostage by

he's currently delivering the eulogy at the funeral of reverend clement ofa pinckney who was the pastor of that church. thousands of mourners are gathering to listen to what the president has to say at a time when racial tensions are mounting in the u.s. president obama: grief overflows every time they have to watch -- i cannot claim to have the good fortune to know reverend pin ckney well, but i did have the pleasure of knowing him. and beating him here -- meeting him here in south carolina back when we were both a little younger. back when i didn't have visible gray hair. what a good man. sometimes, i think that's the best thing to hope for when you are eulogized. mm. after all the words and recitations and resumes are read, to just say somebody was a good man. >> yeah. [applause] tom: that was president barack obama paying tribute to the past or of that church. "what a good man." it is a landmark decision eagerly awaited. the top court in the united states has today ruled that same-sex marriage is a nationwide right. this decision by the supreme court means th u.s. constitution requi

the flag still flies outside the south carolina state house today inside reverend clemente pinckney's body lays a memorial to pay respects. and some south carolina mourners are still holding onto the flag. and and. >> it is a lack of understanding of what the flag is and what it means. it is a war memorial. it is a battle flag that represented over 25,000 men from south carolina who parishedir perished for southern independence. >> this seem to be the think of bill kristol who wrote, the left's 21st century agenda is to expunge every trade of respect, recognition and acknowledgment of americans who fought for the confederacy. he also says he would vote to take down the flag and calls himself a union guy. joining us on our response panel. michael eric dyson. and greg stewart with us also. a member of the sons of confederate veterans and executive director of bovar, the last home of jefferson davis. gentlemen thanks for your time. mr. stewart i want to start with you and give you a leading question here if i may to qualify it. the s theis the reaction to the confederate flag in this sto

pinckney. >> a horse drawn carriage brought pastor pinckney's body to the statehouse. honor guardsman carried the casket inside. his family and two daughters walked behind. the line to view pinckney's body stretched to the street where thousands waited hours in the heat. >> i want to pay respect to the work that he's done, for the years on fighting for the rights of all south carolinaens and americans. >> the confederate flag flying on the statehouse grounds has become a flashpoint since 21-year-old dylann roof gunned down nine people inside emanuel a.m.e. church last week. roof has been photographed with the flag, a symbol of white supremests. the governor wants it taken down. the state legislature is expected to start debating the issue later this summer. on the senate floor tuesday republican paul thor pond, son of late segregationist strom thurmond had this to say. >> i'm proud to no longer be silent. i'm proud to be on the right side of history removing the symbol of racism and bigotry from the statehouse. let us not stop there. justice by halves is not justice. >