and sam katz, documentarian and a panelist who's going to be joining us here on "inside story" every now and then. it is a pleasure to have you with us, sam. >> it's an honor to be here, matt. >> what do you guys think, first of all? nice and bright? >> it is very nice. >> shiny. >> beautiful. >> awesome. >> help you guys think on your feet. >> we've come out of the depths of the darkness. >> right. absolutely. into the light, right? >> all right, well, let's talk about our philadelphia mayor's race. as everyone knows, jim kenney is a democratic candidate, won 56% of the vote on primary day. businesswoman melissa murray bailey is the republican candidate. she was unopposed. sam, let's go to you first because as everyone knows, you had considered getting into the race. the day before the primaries when you told everyone that your heart really wasn't in it. kind of explain things. >> my heart was in it. it was the rest of my body that wasn't kind of going along with the idea. [ laughter ] i was actually ready to go. i'd hired a campaign manager. i worked out a finance plan. and i was i

and sam katz, documentarian and a panelist who's going to be joining us here on "inside story" every now and then. it is a pleasure to have you with us, sam. >> it's an honor to be here, matt. >> what do you guys think, first of all? nice and bright? >> it is very nice. >> shiny. >> beautiful. >> awesome. >> help you guys think on your feet. >> we've come out of the depths of the darkness. >> right. absolutely. into the light, right? >> all right, well, let's talk

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