he had a long conversation with this guy who he thought was david koch but he really was not. that kind of thing is the other side of scott walker. he does really have all this stuff going for him on paper. he's not lost an election since 1990. he hasn't lost an election since like bloom county days. including that super tough recall. nobody thought he was going to win that recall. it was based on historical precedent. he looks great on paper and when he gets fired up, he can give a speech. he doesn't have some of the awkwardness, forgive me, that ted cruz or rick perry have, where they seem like they're acting out their speech. he seems like he's speaking his speech as himself. he's not rick santorum level. i continue to believe that rick santorum is the most natural communicator of all of them. but scott walker's a pretty good talker. it seems like he's got it all going on really. but then he does take the crank call from the guy he thinks is david koch and the release of his state e-mails and we get to see hip writing a special han can message and he writes thank you again

david koch alluded to walker's inevitability as the nominee and a pledge of support. the latest quinnipiac poll shows walker's strategy is paying off. he edged out jeb bush for the second place spot. donald trump still leads the pack with 20%. for more let me bring in john nichols, washington correspondent for the nation magazine. brother john, how important are these big money donors to walker? >> they're definitional my friend. without those big money donors scott walker would still be an obscure wisconsin legislator. he had spent the better part of two decades courting the wealthiest people in america directly and also as a member of the american legislative exchange council and other groups that put him in contact with billion nars andaires and with corporate interests. >> walker was criticized for taking a hard stance to please iowa crowds. he told voters in the hawkeye state he supported government mandates on ethanal gasoline through the renewable standard. the koch displeasure with that stance. is walker equipped to handle conflict with wealthy backers like th

today, koch and his brother david head koch industries one of the largest private companys in america. through their company and foundations they donate to politicians and issues surrounding the fossil fuel industry. >>> let's start really simply, does climate change exist? >> of course, climate change has existed since the earth got an atmosphere. >> is climate change manmade. >> some of it has a human cause, that's correct. >> but michaels is among a group of scientist cited by senator inhofe that believe the worsening climate change models are wrong. >> i would argue that every model that we have - i wouldn't argue, these are facts, okay. shows that if we drop our emissions to zero, we don't do anything really detectable over the course of 100 years. that's incontrovertible reality coming from our own environmental protection agency's models. >> that is the most irrelevant comment i have ever heard. >>> "techknow's crystal dilworth turned dr. burton richter, a nobel prize-winning physicist, to fact check arguments about climate change. >> it will be destructive. it's still going to

there was a conversation with david koch and next to him in a separate group was tom stier. you could not get to people from two different planets, basically, together. what i thought was interesting was valerie jarrett was talking about criminal justice reform and how various folks that have been enemies of white house, including grover norquist, a coming together on something like that issue. so there is a low but of hope, right? some areas were both sides can work together. olivia: it is the magic of the rocky mountains. i am particularly jealous of you being there. you look great. thank you so much, betty liu. fascinating conversations coming out of the aspen ideas festival. we are some breaking news coming out right now on yelp. the news is that they're so profits is said to have stalled -- the news is that their sale profits is said to have stalled. >> temporarily setting not to pursue a sale, courting to people with knowledge of the matter. you might know the website is a consumer review website. it said several interested suitors might have been interested, but they

but then he does take the call from the guy he thinks is david koch. then the court orders the release of his staff e-mails and we see him writing a special hanukkah message and tries to sign off saying thank you again, and mazel tov, but then he says thank you again and molotov. there's a bunch of stuff like that including miscalculating a soft wall question whether or not he feels at all daunted about becoming commander in chief. >> is the prospect of becoming commander in chief daunting? >> i want a commander in chief who will do everyone in their power to ensure that the threat from radical islamic terrorists do not wash up on american soil. we will have someone that leads and ultimately will send a message that not only will we protect american soil but do not take this upon freedom loving people anywhere else in the world. we need a lead we are that kind of confidence. if i can take on 100,000 protesters i can do the same across the world. >> it's not a question about cheese or foreign affairs, it's about evolution. are you comfortable with evolu

any people might be surprised to hear we had to say that charles and david koch are classic liberals. i want to ask you about an issue we have covered a great deal the american legislative exchange council and how that fits in with your attitude toward reforming the criminal justice system. you know, well known koch -supported organization that helped finance some of the toughest sentencing laws on the books today like miniature minimum's for nonviolent drug offenders, three strike laws am , pushing for privatizing the prison industry. also worked to pass state laws to create private for-profit prisons, a boon to several of the major corporate sponsors of alec like cca and the geo group. how do you reconcile that with your push to reform the system? >> well, i mean, we're pushing to reform the system. as i said, we of been doing so for over a dozen years now. our membership in alec isn't related to any of those types of issues. but i would note alec has been pushing the reform issues as well and several of the states that of had reforms last few years, so they have been on board with

one president obama praise conservatives charles and david koch for their efforts laughter rippled through the crowd tuesday at the annual convention of the national association for the advancement of colored people where the president spoke in philadelphia -- next to that is a picture of the president. in oklahoma. and from political this morning congress balks on obama's u.n. move on iran. president obama has a new hurdle -- selling his iran deal. bipartisan opposition for his submission to congress before congress boats. it is a little bit of what is going on in the news this morning. we want to hear from you and what is on your mind. bob in duluth, minnesota democrat. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. i think the democrats need to focus on immigration issue right now. i agree with the president. and his wanting to grant citizenship to the people that are already here, but it is not going to work unless you make it at least a felony to hire an undocumented worker and if you did that, you would take away the incentive for people that want to come across the border. it would be

reporter: their remains are on route to dover air force base where they'll be given dignified transfer koch fins wrapped in the american flag. we know the names of the in rains. thomas sullivan, lance corporation principal skip wells, sergeant carson holmquist, and staff sergeant david i wouldot. gunny sullivan, age 4 , from springfield, massachusetts-join the marines in 1997. greatgrad wait from cathedral hot, two siblings and returned from this last deployment in january. he and the others served in the third battalion, 14th marines and fought in the 2005 battle of abu ghraib where he earned a combat action ribbon two, purple hearts. lance corporal skip wells was the youngest, age 21. graduated from high school in marietta georgia in 2012. his mom was a single mother and drove the school bus. sergeant carson holmquist was living in jacksonville, north carolina with his wife and child. he was the transport chief. tv sergeant david wyatt live in could going which with this wife lori, and two children. >> what more can you tells about the unit. >> this was an artillery battery. the units cal