. >> in 2013, nathan dunlap's execution ordered landed on the desk of governor john hickenlooper and in an odd twist of fate, the governor's own political fortunes would come to rest on his decision. >> we're going to have an election in 2014 where one of the questions is, do we want to kill this one person? >> the case sparked a raging debate over capital punishment and posed the question, what should be done with society's most heinous criminals? >> the death penalty encompasses the most highly emotional issues for all of us. it's life and death. it's justice. all that stuff comes back together on trying to decide what we do with the worst of the worst. >> kill them all. [ bleep ]. >> there was a body under the water. >> butchered and murdered. >> many people proclaim innocence. >> in this case, there are a number of things that stink. >> this man is remorseless. >> needs to pay for it with his life. >> the electric chair flashed in front of my eyes. >> get a conviction at all costs that the truth fall where it may. ♪ >> in aurora, colorado, the night of december 14th, 1993, evil

eastern, we will hear from john hickenlooper. and the association vice chair utah governor gary herbert. that will be followed by a discussion on new state-run -- new state trends for increasing economic development and tourism. that all starts in 10 minutes on c-span. while we wait for that to begin, a discussion now with governor and current chair, gary herbert. he joined us this morning on "washington journal." host: governor herbert, what is the point of all the governors getting together? what are you going to learn? guest: like any other association, it's the opportunity for others in the association to get together and network with each other and share best practices. this is one of the laboratories of democracy and sharing successes and some of the challenges that we face and learning from each other and seeing if we cannot collectively come up with better ideas and solve some problems for the people and make the lives better. host: what are the one of the issues being debated in washington is the highway bill. how does t

it is my pleasure to introduce governor john hickenlooper of colorado. governor? [applause] governor hickenlooper: thank you. he has been practicing on my name. it is a delight to kick off the summer meeting of the national governors association. i want to recognize and thank governor tomlin for having sited this conference, and we do look forward to experience everything that west virginia has to offer. so thank you. please give him a hand. [applause] governor hickenlooper: i am delighted to recognize my friend from utah, gary herbert. gary and i have worked on initiatives for nga and other governor organizations, and it continues to be a pleasure to work with him. we have with us today governor fallon, governor walker from alaska, and a whole host of governors lurking around. be on your toes. we have a full agenda planned for this weekend. this afternoon we will begin with an opening session about my initiative delivering results. it is focused on improving efficiency and effectiveness around some of the core functions of government, how do we take best practice

from colorado and our former chairman, governor john hickenlooper. our new vice chair, governor terry mcauliffe. our 2015 new chair nominee governor of utah gary herbert. i make that motion. >> the motion, do we have a second? all in favor say aye. the ayes have it. when i was running restaurants they didn't give us a lot, we got to tell people what to do. now it is my honor to, with a light heart, and a skip in my step, to be able to turn over the gavel for this organization to the governor of the great state of utah, gary herbert. [applause] governor herbert: thank you. thanks to the wisdom of the nominating committee. we have a great slate here. let me say thanks to governor hickenlooper. we appreciated his leadership and sense of humor. sometimes questionable. his attempt at humor is always appreciated by me. [laughter] he has a great demeanor, a leader to bring us together on many issues. some issues that we were reluctant to tackle, immigration today for example. we had a good discussion on this . i can tell you i have worked with john for a lo

the current chair is john hickenlooper of colorado. governor, thanks for being with us. guest: thank you. it is an honor to be here. just know that the states are getting it done. look to your states for solutions. it is better than looking at washington. host: coming up on the "washington journal," later we will talk about the planned parenthood issued, the video and response from members of congress. we will talk about sanctuary cities next with greg chen, of the american immigration lawyers association. this week there was a hearing by the house and senate judiciary committees and jim steinle spoke there, the father of kate steinle, the young woman killed in san francisco by an illegal immigrant. here is a little bit of his testimony. >> everywhere kate went throughout the world, she shined the light of a good citizen of the united states of america. unfortunately, due to disjointed laws and basic incompetence on many levels, the u.s. has suffered a self-inflicted wound in the murder of our daughter by the hand of a person that should never have been on the streets of

during a session this morning national governors association chair governor john hickenlooper of colorado was asked about congressional efforts to shut off federal grant funding to cities that don't import federal immigration laws. here is his answer. >> the issue of san shorey cities has become a pretty hot topic. the u.s. house passed a bill to limit access to funding for sanctuary cities. i'm not sure which of your states actually have them. i think a couple of them do but if you could sort of give a perspective if you think there should be state limitations on sanctuary cities and that sort of issue. >> if the stay should pass their own limitations instead of waiting. >> we have a city that has been listed as sanctuary city and i don't know who makes those decisions but labeling them as sanctuary city but we certainly as an organization the national governors understand how important the forum is and passing immigration laws. you hear a lot of discussion about secure the borders and and that is kind of intuitive for a lot of reasons. we have to have a secure border but we also i call