he is running as scott walker. if you look at his record in parenthood funding, abortion, a variety of different issues, he has always been very conservative. i think you have two candidates that up until now have appeal in all those different factions. one is rubio and the other is scott walker. that was verified in the poll today and they had a 38 net favorability rating. we just have to make sure more hear from us. alex: how worried that scott walker could have those tweets? they are pretty dull. he tweeted about meatloaf. i agree. ed: one of the strengths of scott walker is he does not have to yell and scream. alex: my dad is from iowa. not midwestern boring. ed: that is your interpretation of it. al: i can second that. ed: one of the things that has happened with tweets -- they have moved from being a communication tool to a weapon. we are continuing to use it as a communication source and i think we will, boring or not. al: donald trump leads the polls but second and third -- scott walker in jeb bush. and jeb

in the second debate, the primetime, i tend to think scott walker pulled it off mainly because scott walker is already popular with conservatives, right? the debate is not just in and of itself. scott walker made a couple good lines on foreign policy where he's been weak before. he did enough there. i think marco rubio, again, the youthful charisma. >> what was walker's first one liner? >> i think it was talking about, when he talked about foreign policy and america's position with our allies in the middle east. china know more about hillary clinton's e-mails than congress. >> that was a line that played well with the conservative base. >> that's a good one. you like that? >> well, yeah. it was funny. i want to distance myself from the notion that these were tough questions. they were very good questions. they were well focused. they did their best to keep these politicians from wriggling out from under them. donald trump has some cheek. i know it's hard to believe. but donald trump has some cheek and gall to get mad at the journalist for quoting back to him his own quotes and saying

those owners include two billionaire hedge fund managers based in new york as well as scott walker's co-chairman on his presidential campaign. critics say the deal looks suspect and tarnishes walker's image as a fiscal conservative. back in 2011 walker claimed he could help balance the budget by taking away his public sector labor union's right to bargain. that move sparked protests by thousands of government employees who occupied the state building. >> but he stood firm and he won. >> in the end, walker won his battle against the unions but his disapproval rating soared sparkinsparkingsparking a recall election. walker survived that recall becoming the only governor in american history ever to do so. and in turn he became a rising star in the republican party. so much so that on july 13th, walker decided to run for president. >> we are so honored to have you join with us here today as we official announce that we are running to serve as your president of the united states of america. >> but in july, walker also slashed funding for the university of wish b wisconsin 0 million, and i

walker: we saw the real people. mark: there is a meme that scott walker is not exciting enough. what you think about that? gov. walker: hopefully we took care of that today. mark: you did not generate the excitement, though. you are just sort of the recipient of that. governor walker: the kicker is that if you show your actions speak louder than words, that is it. people say they want some dynamic. we will get dynamic action. when you push dynamic reforms, you get excited. mark: how would you characterize your personal style as a leader? gov. walker: i just get it done. it is very midwestern in that we don't mess around. we do what we say we do. mark: with all due respect, you have been asked a couple times. clearly, children who were born here to parents who are here illegally, should they be deported? gov. walker: i talked about how going forward, i believe we should change the rules of the deporting, terms of the best thing we can do is enforce the law. if we require employers across america to uphold the law, i think that ultimately puts us in a good place. mark: you are sti

emily: i don't think scott walker -- mark: i don't think scott walker thinks it's only a handful i , think he misspoke. in short-term, they get away with it. i think if you are going to beat donald trump, if you will be a finalist, you have to improve performance. a negative effect is these guys are not getting coverage. they are not going to get better if they are not covered. john: it's a funny thing, it would be bad for them in some sense if these things got a lot of attention and they got hammered, on the other hand, whoone like scott walker has been too loose with his language, it would be better for him to get hammered in some ways, because he can learn from that. mark: he has big issues. he has a big rally in iowa today and jeb bush said the thing i referred to earlier, about planned parenthood, the wealthy. let's listen to what jeb bush said earlier. jeb bush: i for one don't think they should get a penny. that is the difference. because they are not actually doing women's health issues. [applause] they are involved in something way different than that. mark: the democrats ar

scott walker leading in the polls in iowa. last ones i saw, anyway. he was at a forum sponsored by the koch brothers yesterday, and i've heard a lot of democrats talking about this bite. let's play it. >> is president obama a christian? >> you're not going to get different answers, but i don't know. i said i don't know. i assume he is by comments in the past but i've never asked him about that. as someone who is a believer myself i don't presume to know if someone's beliefs about whether they follow christ or not unless i've actually talked with them and understand it. but he said he has so i'll take his word. >> you're shaking your head. what's -- >> that's -- >> what's the problem with that answer? >> it's disgusting. listen, as a professing christian, listen, that is a dog whistle. that is as close to fighting words as you're going to get. in other words, you're going to have to talk to all 320 million americans to find out if we're a christian? if someone is a professing christian, as i am, as this president is, that is all that is required in our

that was scott walker, 30 years old. well before he became nationally famous and a hero on the political right for ending union rights in his state. if you've never heard of scott walker before he became wisconsin governor in the 2010 election, chances are the thing you first learned about him was that something like 100,000 people were protesting against him in wisconsin because of that effort to dismantle union rights. just an incredibly divisive way to begin his governorship. even on the day when scott walker held the signing ceremony for that anti-union rights bill, amid the clatter of the news cameras covering him signing the bill, in the background, you could still hear something else. >> governor, we can hear thousands of people in the halls screaming, "shame, shame, shame." we can hear that in your office right now. can you respond to that? >> sure. i said this every day since i introduced this a month ago that the protesters are here and around the country, increasingly, they're more and more from other state, b

joining us is the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. he is third overall and second in iowa and the latest presidential polling. we will talk about the issues and the debate and the policies he prescribes to return to prosperity and what to do about cyberattacks, radical islam, and of course russia and china as well. americans under attack overseas. an american consulate she in a new wave of terrorism not part of the world. how it affects the united states led fight against the islamic state next with top national security experts k.t. mcfarland and clifford may. the top story tonight is more violence and now a state of emergency declared in ferguson, missouri. st. louis county police department will take over all policing in ferguson. protests there turn violent as the police tried to disperse protesters who were blocking traffic, smashing storefronts and looting. one man shot by police after he opened fire on them, he is in critical condition tonight. it's fear that that shooting could spark more violence. the man's family disputing h

please join me in welcoming the next president, governor scott walker. [applause] walker: thanks. thank you. thank you mr. speaker. they have done a spectacular job here in minnesota, i was pleased to be with you earlier in the capital, i appreciate your leadership for our team. we are going to compete for the caucus and we are pleased to have your leadership, grassroots will make a huge difference and i want to thank all the ways here. thank you for hosting is not just here but i was kidding on the tour, i know where not to stick my finger and where not to turn off the white kurds. -- white curds. thanks for having us here and thinks everybody else, all the friends and supporters for being here. and hearing a bit about what we are here for today. we will talk about obamacare. i want to point out that america is a can-do kind of country. we have people in washington that can't get the job done. washington is 68 square miles surrounded by reality. i have to tell you, when i talk to people across this country, people are fed up with washington. i feel your pain. i am fed up as well.

scott walker is a political pro. if he is nothing else he is a political proment he has never done anything in his adult life except for politics. he lives for this stuff. when he was on the "today" show in that clip at 30, defending sending wisconsin's prisoners to the jail in texas, even after they knew that jail was notorious for abusing its prisoners, when he gave that interview the at 30 years old, scott walker had already won three different elections by that point. scott walker now is still a very young man, 47 years old. he's won 12 elections. 12. he won every single time he has run for anything. with the exception of his very first race which he ran at the ripe old age of 22 in 1990. every time he has run since and he spent his life running for office. every single time since 1990 he has won. twils he has run unopposed. this record of all of these wins in a row includes winning three statewide elections in wisconsin, in just the past five years. as a point of comparison, in terms of the field this year, comp

dan dana, one of the surprising take aways is trump was behind scott walker. now you see they're in very different positions and maybe not surprisingly scott walker is taking aim at donald trump. >> a little bit saying that donald trump is using the same tired talking points of the democrats. i mean, this is really fascinating. because i mean let's just back up, there's so many things to unpack. scott walker has been not just leading in iowa but leading very comfortably for months. >> he's been the one to target, right? >> he's been the one to target. he's put all his eggs in the iowa basket. although he denies aggressively moving to the right, it's pretty hard to say otherwise when you look at his positions on immigration, on abortion and so forth. he's been emphasizing his conservative positions because that really appeals to iowa voters. now even and maybe even especially after this debate last week wheredonald trump caused these issues, he's surpassed scott walker in iowa. >> i think the hope, nia, for some republicans in the establishment was that donald

starting with scott walker who had a big zinger on hillary clinton's e-mails. mr. walker: probably the chinese and russian government know more about hillary clinton's e-mail servers. john: what did you think about scott walker? mark: i think he will do better in the other debates. i think the first national one, he was not as loose as he could be. he does need to get better. john: he has to get off talking points. i had some democrats last night who said he passed the intelligence seriousness threshold which for him was important. mark: he was solid all night, but he does need to get better. ted cruz's knowledge on foreign policy and russia on display. mr. cruz: you just mentioned the iranian general is directly responsible for t murder of over 500 american servicemen in iraq and part of this iranian deal is lifting the sanctions on the general sulamani. the day he flew back from moscow to iran was the day we believe russia used cyber warfare against the joint chiefs. we need a new commander in chief that will stand up to our enemies and have credibility. mark: to

>> in fact, that's what gwen walker's saying about scott walker. scott walker's candidacy is having its own problems. i'm surprised she is even paying attention. there is no question, he identifies milwaukee and its largely black population as a problem for the state of wisconsin. >> wait for a second. he is the same guy who put school vouchers in milwaukee to help the black community because they were trapped in failing public schools. does that sound like somebody that's racist? >> i'm in favor as you well know. >> he did that for black families in milwaukee. >> what she was talking about. by the way, if you are just talking about playing the race card, i can't argue with you on that. she's definitely playing it. >> so democrats play the race card. >> and republicans play the race card. >> i'm naming biden. i'm namg gore. i'm naming names. who are you naming? >> i would say that right away i said scott walker i think to identify. yeah, who is the entitlement society. remember that from republicans from newt gingrich? >> sheriff clark is a huge sc

because until trump came along, scott walker was really the story of the summer. jeb bush is raising all the money. he was at the top of the pack but scott walker was lead lgd in iowa, second in new hampshire. people thought wait a minute, watch this guy. four years ago another midwestern governor tim pawlenty was viewed is he going to be the guy who gets mitt romney and then he dries up? >> one thing we have to remember about scott walker is even though he's been leading a lot of these polls and he's had good showings in iowa, new hampshire, he is still relatively unknown nationally. if people know anything about him, they know about the fight against the unions in wisconsin, which is very popular with republicans. but people don't know much else about him. they don't know how he's going to perform on the big stage. they don't know a lot about his other policy positions, particularly on foreign policy. so i think he perhaps more than any other candidate has the most to gain, and also the most to lose in this first debate. >> jeb bush has been off the bike for a d

scott walker: you're fighting a war, you identify who the enemy is. we have said it repeatedly. radical islamic terrorism. it is a war against not only america and israel, against christians, jews, even the handful of reasonable moderate followers of islam who don't share the radical beliefs that these radical islamic terrorists have. mark: just a handful. john: just a handful of moderate muslims. fyi, we asked the walker campaign. they replied that walker knows full well the majority of muslims want peace. having said that, this is not the only candidate who has said from things -- donald trump things that have been blown away. are those things going to come back to hunt them, or are they going to get away scott free? mark: out think he believes it's only handful, inc. he misspoke. in short-term, they get away with it. i think if you are going to beat donald trump, if you will be a finalist, you have to improve performance. a negative effect is these guys are not getting coverage. john: it's a funny thing, it would be bad for them in some sense if these things got a lot of atte

i'm very excited to have governor scott walker in minnesota. governor walker is a bold conservative reformer and he has brought unbelievable policies that have turned around the state of wisconsin. when he took over in the state of wisconsin, it was a mess. they had a $4 billion deficit and lost jobs and had an unemployment rate above 8%. governor walker lowered taxes to spur job growth, but reforms in fraudthat eliminated wage . and really turned the state of wisconsin around. we are really proud of the work he has done. i'm very proud that he has come to minnesota to announce his obamacare reforms. there is really no better place than minnesota to announce these reforms. we have seen the worst of the worst of obama care in minnesota. have lostnnesotans their health coverage because of obamacare. people have lost the choice they had. in some cases, they have only one option for health coverage. frankly, all the while during the worst of the worst, democrats gave the obamacare executives in minnesota bonuses to reward them. likeed new, bold ref

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walker, and scott walker being able to hit on the issue of the health care law as well as to really try to hug donald trump on immigration are his paths to be able to get some of that donald trump support if donald trump does ultimately falter. >> right now the rate of uninsured americans dropped 6%, to 11.4% since 2013. that is the lowest since tracking began in 2008. if it is appealed, which we've discussed over and over, the key is what do you do with all those people who are now insured? >> well, tamron, that's right. and the obama administration can point to the uninsured rate going down, the fact that premiums aren't as high as many had expected as well as other successes that they believe from the law, but the political reality is this. it is so hard to change a system that's already up and running. and it's why you saw republicans really trying to be able to eliminate the law before it really took off, before it started, and come 2017, and again, you would have an enrollment this year and then the year after, it becomes more entrenched and that's the real big challenge for w

we'll ask scott walker, can he outtrump trump? >>> biden running? his secret meeting this weekend. does it mean he's about to jump in? >>> plus, hillary in trouble? the e-mail firestorm growing. why she's interresulting her vacation to get back on the trail and -- american heroes. breaking details about that fearless train takedown. u.s. servicemen risking their lives to stop a possible terrorist on the attack. from abc news, "this week with george stephanopoulos" begins now. >>> good morning. what some called a summer fling still going strong, donald trump drawing record crowds. he's going to join us live in a moment. we begin with that brewing intrigue on the democratic side. vice president biden calling popular star elizabeth warren to washington for a secret meeting. jonathan karl tracking the latest. jon, this is the strongest sign that biden is taking a serious look at this race. >> reporter: it sure is. this is a meeting between the two democrats who could potentially cause the greatest threat to hillary clinton if either one of them decided to one. warren has emphatically r

quote, walker said last week in north carolina that he is the same scott walker he's always been and any perceived shifts are exaggerations by the media. although walker once boasted and said early polls are not a clear predictor who will win the nomination months from now. it's not good if you have to say you're the same person in august of '15 before a '16 election. >> he surged earlier this year, a favorite in iowa, seen as someone to win over the movement right. and then the field just got very big and then add in donald trump, summer of trump, walker had a tough time getting attention and stabilizing the campaign that was once seen as a front-runner. >> what is it about walker, though? because he came in with so much energy. he is a son of iowa. lived there until he was in his teens. his father very well-known as an evangelical pastor in iowa. deep connections from wisconsin. is this because donald trump moved the field to the right and walker's had difficulty matching trump as being the more conservative candidate? or is this just scott walker learning how to become a national

it may be the reason scott walker said this last night. take a listen. >> part of the reason the polls are that way, people want a fighter. right now they think will mr. trump is a fighter. part of the reason i'm polling in second, people think i'm a fighter. >> chris christie is offering a different view of trump's effect on the race. >> it's a weird primary system. >> it always is. >> not this weird. >> tell me it wasn't as weird when herman cane was winning nationally or bach winning nationally? >> he's telling the truth. >> donald is telling his version of the truth. >> only the loudest voice gets heard. >> that's part of the fault of the candidate and part of the media. some are trying to be outrageous to get on the news. ideas are most important. not whether you're getting most attention at one particular time. >> donald trump and chris christie will join us coming up on "morning joe." one place donald trump was not a topic of discussion was last night's republican gathering in new hampshire. he wasn't mentioned at all. the voter for

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i have scott walker on the show. he acknowledges the issue that trump is sort of eclipsing everybody here a little bit. he's pleading for patience. it's crystal clear, it's onald trump's party right now and everybody else are just guests at it. >> week or two there was a speculation and rumors, i should say, about joe biden running for president. where do we stand on that right now? that seems to have quieted down a little bit. >> i think joe biden quieted down. when we heard him for the first time talk about it and we realized he's emotionally banged up. it's not like he had the fire in the belly to do this. one of the things we'll examine on the show is how difficult this will be for joe biden. the coalition that allowed barack obama to knock off hillary clinton does not exist right now. that coalition is sort of fractured between bernie sanders, hillary clinton has a piece of it. can joe biden somehow do what barack obama did? i think a lot of democrats are skeptical of that. that's not been the history of biden's

you just heard scott walker say she would be the deceiver in chief. do you believe she's honest and trustworthy? >> george, this is why we need to have debates because so long as our democratic party is not talking about the issues that matter most around the kitchen table the only question that will be asked every day, and it's a legitimate question by media, people like yourself or by the republicans are questions about hillary clinton's e-mails. those are questions that i will leave to her and to her lawyers to answer. but as a party, we need to wake up, and we need to start having debates about the issues that really matter like making college more affordable for more families, making wages go up and not down. making the investments that allow us to move to a 100% clean energy future as a nation so we can square our shoulders to the challenge of climate change. until we start having debates and offering those ideas that move our country forward, we're going to be bogged down in questions of what did hillary clinton know and when did she know it, a

the conservative backlash against scott walker's basketball arena boondoggle. may be the worst since record keeping began in 1950. el nino circa 1997 devastated parts of southern california with floods and mudslides and looking at this year, nasa is telling the "l.a. times" this has the potential of being the godzilla el nino. here's why. so far this year's el nino is already stronger in the same time of year, 1997, which is shown on the left. 2015 is shown on the right. you can see that band of heat there. those areas in red and white are the warmest sea surface temperatures. the trend this year is bad. it is those warm temperatures that stir up the strongest storms of el nino carrying all that energy. this graph underscores the problem. temperatures west of peru are higher which is a key factor scientists look for. a sliver of good news, this year's el nino has contributed to heavy rain that has lessened drought conditions in colorado, texas and oklahoma. massive rains after sustained drought tend to produce floods and mudslides and general destruction. by th

. >> put that on a bumper -- >> scott walker is like -- >> wake up and vote for scott walker. anyway -- >> i was just going to say that the important paradigm used to be moderate conservative. right now the important paradigm is insider/outsider. ben carson, ted cruz, add them up with donald trump and you've got a big number there. >> rick perry's campaign is effectively broke, but the former texas governor isn't backing off just yet. a piece in "the washington post" declared yesterday, quote, the zombie apocalypse has arrived and it's in iowa with rick perry. he can in longer afford to pay his staff, and yet due to a recently known experiment known as super pacs, his campaign lurches forward. perry that has no control over how his money is spent. super pacs keep spending money and spending money, but you can't even call them up and say, put this ad on the air, right? >> sure. we heard in 2012, they propped up rick santorum, newt gingrich for longer than people thought they'd stay around. now we say, do you even need a campaign? >> will this prevent any candidate from getting

scott walker i'm not sure yet because we haven't seen enough of him. go ahead. >> walker is eyeing his good standing in iowa where he is working on the ground. so this is maybe not his strategy. and he is maybe not looking to be on top of the heap at the end of this debate in particular. he may just hold his own. i think somebody lower down in the tier may take some shots at trump. >> rand paul is going to throw a grenade. marco rubio might. ted cruz might. everybody say no, no, cruz is a big trump fan. >> he is taking from him. see one side have a debate and have choice who might be their candidate. >> this is the most fun debate ever. >> absolutely. >> i think trump is going to get in there and try to be under control but he will lose control in about 25 seconds. >> your republican party is looking kind of crazy. >> your party don't give me that propaganda business i'm just as tough on them as i am the others. >> i appreciate that carson -- >> -- but ben is very mellow. very very mellow he. >> that might be the winning ticket. >> i would bring the st

scott walker whiffed it a little bit. and then there is that other guy running in the center of the stage. >> trump. >> yeah, that's the one. >> he is on a few radars. >> it is like nine people running for president on that stage. then also donald trump who is dominating everybody else in the polls. >> let's talk about the theatrics. >> he is the first one in line when talking about those things. would you say he did get the best performance? >> he did not deliver the goods. i am thinking of a terrible andrew lloyd webber musical called "starlight express." it was a loud, boring garish and relentless. he is an old player whose schtick is wearing thin. >> and he was wearing roller skates. >> you don't think his schtick is fresher than the other schticks? >> i have been around since the 1980s. when he was on the front page of the post. >> never in running for president like in that context. >> it used to be called entertainment. now it is called politics. >> is he fun intoe? >> it can be. he totally can be. >> it is hysteri

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and so a different tone from scott walker today. we also had a chance -- i asked him a few yeses about immigration and how he would deal with issues that are included in the trump plan. it is scott walker's has be hab use the name of donald trump or speak specifically about another candidate. but on key points he said he believes there needs to be a wall or border security. he has concerned about birthright citizenship chen anyone who is illegal and comes here that child is an american citizen, should that change? he left open the door unclear about whether children who are a part of that might some day be deported. talked about no more sanctuary cities. of course, the kind of headline of he does not believe in amnesty. that's a regular talking point, a regular core position. so he is feeling the pressure from donald trump here. make no mistake about it. as you said, luke, he's got win iowa. trump has really cut into the walker lead in iowa. back to you. thanks for pair bebearing with all of this. >> thanks for joining us. anne gear

scott walker has done very well in iowa. what we're seeing here is people saying, you know what, there's other viable candidates. i think right now without many of these debates to look at people largely see donald trump, he dominates the media cycle, very popular with people who say he's out there and he's speaking, you know, truth. but the more we're going to see more candidates the more other candidates get airspace. i think he's going to lose his lead. >> let's talk about the makeup between fox and trump because we had megyn kelly telling viewers last night she won't apologize and she wants to move forward. meanwhile, we've got trump back on the stump. back on the road today he's in michigan. explain how he's doing on the campaign trail today and the attention that follows now that it seems as if they have made a mends. >> yeah. there's definitely a gawker effect here. he's still going to be able to attract really big crowds. i think it depends on how consistent the crowds are. that's what we're going to look for tomorro

gwen: scott walker seems to be zen about this. let's take a listen about what he had to say about this whole big crowded field. >> with this many great republicans on the field this is not going to be wrapped up after a couple of states. it's probably going to be a couple of months in if not longer and we're ready for the long haul. gwen: the "long haul," he's thinking right past this debate isn't he? >> that's right. walker thinks that this is a trump phenomenon and that it will fizzle out. he's focused on fundraising building a national network. he believes he become that alternative to jeb bush and be there in the top tier. the other thing you have to watch this week, is everyone is expecting fireworks in the debate. if you're ted cru carson or huckabee you want that coalition should trump not pan out. gwen: because there are so many of them it's easy to spend some time obsessing about what's happening to republicans. but i want to talk about what happened to republicans. hillary clinton was at the national urban league convent

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scott walker i didn't -- i wasn't uplifted by most of what scott walker said last night. but i will say this. rubio was refreshed on that debate stage. that was a 180-degree turn from giving that really bad state of the union rebuttal several years ago. >> the water bottle night. >> it was not a good night for him. last night was a good night for marco rubio. but you mentioned this a minute ago. the three winners of that debate last night, i'm going to say this and going to catch grief for it, megyn kelly, bret baeir and jim. i was impressed by that. i was frankly shocked by that. >> well they certainly are first rate did a heck of a job. susan, jimmy mentioned john kasich, sort of become the darling of the center left media crowd by the debate performance and this answer about gay marriage with a lot of applause from the debate crowd. very different from what we saw in 2012 when conservative audiences booed this question. i went to take a listen. >> because somebody doesn't think the way i do doesn't mean that i can't care about them or can't love them. so if one of my d

>> well, this is a very important moment for scott walker. he is going heavy duty on being the anti obamacare candidate. he's trying to adopt a lot of the harsh language on immigration. he's going on glen beck show to try and buff his conservative credentials. he knows he's in trouble. and so i think he's really throwing a little bit of everything at the wall to see if anything will stick. and it is possible -- it is possible some of this will come together. but if he does not get traction on some of this in the next week or so, he runs the real risk of falling behind, say, carly fiorina in some of these polls. particularly in new hampshire. >> how can walker make up ground on donald trump then given your prognosis? >> you know, look, he's not -- i honestly don't think scott walker is worried about donald trump at this point. he's worried about marco rubio, ben carson, scott walker has to get out of the middle of the field and back to where he was on debate day. remember on debate day you had trump in the middle, bush on one side. walker on t

that's scott walker. that's what you'll see through the long haul of running a presidential campaign. >> the woman on the other side of the aisle, hillary clinton, turning over her e-mail server to the justice department. i was with john kasich. he said it's too early to know what it means and you have the other extreme, donald trump, who said this to jake tapper. >> what she did is a real problem for her. i don't know frankly that she'll be able to run because it just looks to me that the whole e-mail thing is a very criminal situation and it could cause problems for years to come. >> rick, criminal? does your candidate scott walk earp agree with that? >> i think it's potentially troubling and potentially a criminal offense. the inspector general has said there were classified documents in a private e-mail server, a couple of which were deemed top secret. this is not only -- this is not an e-mail issue. this is a national security issue. the governor said it best. russia and china may have more knowledge

jeb bush and scott walker lag. in the past two months trump has shown up from 4% to 23% but so has carson. he is not far behind, increasing to 18%. what is the deal with in carthage -- ben carson? this.i will sa have carson at 18. and cruise it 8 and walker it 8. fiorina.son, all of them cover 50%. the top four establishment in.idates will -- some are mike: could you give me those names and numbers area down the. up to.what they add john: fiorina -- up to about 54%. mike: i would want to know where each of the numbers of the 53% were. i want to the best far away from them as possible because there is some seriously wrong with republican party if those people combined have a majority of the voters. man. he is a nice he is a brilliant, talented neurosurgeon. he does not have standard both locations for office. he is leading trump in the votes of evangelical voters. that is a huge chunk of the iowa electorate. he is the guy that stands the best chance of being the evangelical candidate and he has a huge following. no

stuart: let's get right to you, have you scott walker on the show. neil: i do, and jeb bush later on. it was not your traditional father's debate and not your traditional mother's debate. very different, very fast, volatile, very interesting that there were so many in this race. for the establishment players in the race, the scott walkers and the jeb bushes, they wonder if they were playing it too safe, too cautiously. later on fox news i'm going to be talking to jeb bush about that. first to scott walker and the issue the establishment time the candidates gains. in walker's case, 6 minutes. about half the time donald trump enjoyed. scott walker telling me he still thinks he made the most of it, take a look. >> plenty more debates out there, in the end what people want is not people who give good punchlines or go on the attack, my focus in terms of attacks was on hillary clinton, i hope i showed people i'm ready to take her on, not just in words but deeds. i'm ready to fight and win, i'm showing we can get results in a blue state and have not comprom

wait until you hear what scott walker has to say about it. we say good-bye to our biggest fren my, john stewart. don't miss it. see you at 11:30. >> we will see you. thank you very much. >>> up here first, another epa ah oh. the white house saying its new clean power rules are going to lower your energy bills, but will it zap your energy bills? we debate, you decide. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. >> the e.p.a.'s wherein rules to fight global warming. will they heat your cooling bills? the slowest pace since 33 >>> cleaner air and lower bills? that's what the white house is promising with its new clean power rules. take a look. >> this plan, the analysis shows lshgs ultimately save the average american nearly $85 a year on their energy bills. >> but you say this wil