secondly the resignation of benedict wrote new history for the church. when the cardinals gathered together for those days before the conclave, i was there, i was the spokesperson, i was in the midst of it all. what was essential to cause this pope to be elected was there was no funeral. people were not in mourning, they were not comparing to a deceased pope, they were not caught up in all the italian grief that normally takes place. they look forward to the future and said, what are the greatest challenges that are needed? and i remember the days of those cardinals meetings when they got up in the upper room

and even beyond benedict college with these messages? >> yeah, this is a really important speech for sanders. it's really important for him to break out of the demographics that he has been doing really well with in iowa and new hampshire. the democratic electorates are overwhelmingly white. when the primaries move on after iowa and new hampshire to south carolina, the democratic electorate changes quite a bit. bernie sanders, on the left historically, is hitting a demographic wall and needs to expand his coalition. going down to south carolina where a lot more nonwhite voters in the electorate there, it's important for him to start speaking to issues that they care about, speaking to hispanic voters, to african-american voters and trying to get support from those groups that are very strong for hillary clinton right now. if he's going to beat hillary clinton, if he's going to give her a run for her money, he needs to break out of the demographic box he's in right now. >> larry, do you see him hitting a nerve here? >> well, i think he's

obviously benedict, a little bit different. i started working in the vatican under benedict but i covered him a long time as cardinal. much more reserved as a figure, and, yet, revolutionary. revolutionary in the fact that he set this revolution in motion by resigning, no doubt about that and a couple other things about benedict. his first encyclical message we have heard a lot from pope francis, god is love. also, pope benedict was known as the green pope. now, having said all of that pope francis is certainly broken the mold anew. >> pope francis jesuit. first jesuit pope. what do you take away from that. for many catholic notice united states, i mean, around the world, that's what the huge big deal. >> well, it's a monstrous deal as the first jesuit. the jesuits were often on the front lines in the course of the church histories and great defenders of the faith basically great missionaries as well. pope francis essentially wanted to go to japan. he became a jesuit hoping he could become a missionary. his health didn't allow

benedict xvi was a conservative that appealed to part of the church. francis appeals to the church quite broadly maybe at the cost of some of those conservatives. people relate to him as an humble, authentic man. >> francis is a jesuit. how is that different? >> he's the first jesuit pope. i teach at fordham university, and it's go back to a saint from the 16th century. he said that the world is full of god. that god is not separate from the world, and that god is in the world. francis buys into that. he wants to go seek god in the poor and the marginalized and also in the way that the world work politically and economically. he doesn't dre a contrast. >> i want to generalize you, and keep me honest here. isn't the jesuit order considered more liberal in the catholic church? >> absolutely. so francis in that way is a traditional jesuit, but they're liberal not because of a ideological thing but because of a they're yo logical commitment that the world is good and not an evil place. it's a place to do good work and show the mercy of god and love of god

and that was something that benedict had to really deal with. so it was almost a much more serious trip when pope benedict was here with respect to the kind of air we're breathing now. >> father beck, you talked about that speech he made before becoming pope. he criticized self-referential tendency toward what he termed narcissistic -- and he talked about the catholicism careerism and backfiring. delia, has he been able to make inroads in that? >> well, yes. although it's very difficult to change millennia of vatican bureaucracy, but i think the way you change it is not even so much in the structure. i mean, they are doing structural changes to combining offices and trying to streamline. obviously made headway in the vatican bank. but the way you really change is through attitudes and the pope has said that as well. the first change is attitudes and then structures. so i think he's trying to work on two levels. one is streamlining the actual offices and the way that they do things. but that is almost takes longer perhaps than being able to try a

. >> some talk that perhaps he would follow the example of benedict and retire and maybe at the aim of 80. >> he could. he respected benedict for the humble gesture, and the jesuits are superiors for since years so think maybe after six years he will call it quits. i have heard that a reason he is telling people he will be here only a short period is, what will happen? he is pushing for change. giving a blessing there. a young girl. just before he steps in. he will be in a jeep in the parade. you are on the parade route and this is a lost security? >> a line of police officers that is along the parade route where pope francis will be coming and you can see there is a huge army of officers, park police and i want to show through if i can, there are uniforms, military, down here on this end behind me. and right behind that we have a long bang of metal detectors what everyone out here, thousands of people had to go through in order to get a spot on the parade route. you can see behind me there are still masses of people coming in here, thousands and thousands of people lining the parade r

again, it's benedict who has the record to beat. somehow, i do not think that is in the front tier of worries in this particular pontiff in what will be busy travel having him being greeted by no less than the president of the united states, his wife, the vice president of the united states, his wife, their children and grandchildren. let's listen. [ cheers and applause ] >> obviously you can see the president and his children and his wife, the vice president and his children -- grandchildren and wife ready to greet the pontiff. it is unusual for a president to greet a pontiff upon his arrival in the united states, but not n unprecede unprecedented. president bush greeted pope benedict, the man who holds the market record, when he came to this country. on two other occasions, presidents sent their emissaries to greet the pontiff. this is a very different pontiff. among the most popular in recent years, particularly the bond that this president has established with this pontiff. greg burke will be weighing in, my friend and former co

president bush gave i believe a collection of american music to pope benedict knowing his love of music. often times these gifts say something about the message one wants to give to the other one but the messages as you said seem so well coordinated and religious liberty comes up with both. >> as i was saying before we went to the shot of the wave at the colanade there is this country is having this debate about religious freedom versus a discrimination and the rights of, say, gay people that want to get married. and so was in the pope's way of sort of wading into that debate? >> kind of. i wrote down attention in the pope's remarks and spoke only both sides of that issue in a sense and said we should reject every form of injustice and discrimination and then he praised the u.s. bishops for saying quote vigilant to p preserve religious freedom and they don't always line up because that is exactly where the tension is, if a form we are rejecting is against lbgt people and that goes against the bishop's religious freedom or a civil clerk's religious freedom that is a very difficult needle

it is to grimsley traditional, pope benedict xvi said the conviction the economy must be autonomous, shielded from influences of moral character has led man to abuse the economic process and a thoroughly destructive way. pope john paul the second said the state of inequality between individuals and nations not only still exists, it is increasing. it is obvious a fundamental defect or series of defects, and indeed the defective machinery is at the root of contemporary economic and materialistic civilization which does not allow of the human feeling to break free from such radically unjust situations. john paul ii said in speaking of the poor and disadvantaged it is and not only a question of alleviating the most serious and urgent needs through individual actions here and there but uncovering of the roots of evil and proposing initiatives to make social, political and economic structures more just and fraternal. hope all vi condemned erroneous autonomy, a phrase that the director of catholic university institute for policy research we ran a symposium last year called erroneous autonom

john paul ii and benedict the xvi. i know the memories of those visits awakens gratitude and affection in the people of cuba. today we renew those bonds of cooperation and friendship so that the church can continue to support and encourage the cuban people in its hopes and concerns with the freedom and all the means and space needed to bring the proclamation of the kingdom to the kpexistential peripherie of society. this apostolic journey also coincides with the first centenary of pope benedict's xv decoration of lady of charity as patroness of cuba. it was the veterans of the war of independence who moved by sentiments of faith wanted the virgin mambisa to be the patroness of cuba as a free and sovereign nation. since that time, she has accompanied the history of the cuban people, sustaining the hope which preserves people's dignity in the most difficult situations and championing the promotion of all that gives dignity to the human person. the growing devotion is a visible testimony to the virgin in the soul of the c

was here in the stadium, 2008 and he was, you know, i don't think he shared pope benedict's politics, but he was so visibly, emotionally moved, by being in the presence of the pope. >> yes. >> and i'm wondering, anxious as you see the pope on 5th avenue, one of your haunting stops, and you work in this area. >> absolutely. >> and this is, your turf and here's the pope. >> yeah, it's a remarkable thing. i mean, i've had the pleasure of meeting him on one occasion in home, of the united states and new york, is, is, incredible occasion. and i just think it's remarkable that 50 years ago we had to talk about whether [ indiscernible ] should be elected president and, the united states established diplomatic relations, only in the 80s, and mou this, this jesuit hope has addressed congress this morning and now he's parading down 5th avenue, to the cheers of thousands of people, it's a wonderful thing to see them both. >> very busy trip, and will be analyzed by people of all politics and stripes, and his trip to cuba, this is a man who started the ball rolling, the phone recall to raul castr

so he's living up to the commitment that benedict made. but still, the family is very, very important to pope francis. he has said, thus jesus teaches us that the masterpiece of a society is a family, a man and woman that love each other. this is his focus and has always been his focus and which is why you didn't see a huge mass at the yankees stadium in new york. he wants to have a huge one here. >> this is the people's pope and the renewal of catholicism in america. look at the history. philadelphia for the last ten years has been mired in scandal, sex scandal, financial scandal. this pope is coming here to say that with this archbishop, they've renewed this diocese. they have shut schools to save money. they sold the mansion of the archbishop. they've cut costs. they are saying, this is a new catholic america and this pope is here to showcase it here as the people's pope in philadelphia today. >> at the moment, on the route, he's going to see very little traffic. there's a reason for that. this city is on lockdown. it's an unfortunate s

benedict -- hoped pope benedict who failed -- filled people's hearts with doctrine. charlie: he seems to want to change the emphasis of the conversation. >> absolutely. saying don't spend all her time on these divisive issues when there are other items on the agenda. >> giving him a softer edge. when he was eking to the bishops this morning in washington, he said is very important that you stand up for what the church believes about life, about economics, about the environment. modus operandi has to be in counter, not confrontation. it's not about being a cultural warrior, it's about being an evangelist. and the goal here is dialogue. dialogue to what purpose? >> interestingly enough, dialogue for the purpose of dialogue, in the beginning. just understanding of each other. >> you have to know the who before you get to the what. pope who puts in motion processes, but he doesn't necessarily have an end in mind. that is the little unsettling for some folks. there isn't a corporation in the united states that would hire a ceo who says i don't have a plan, i'm just going

things changed a lot when pope benedict came to town. >> it did. our football team was the security for the pope. it wasn't like today. in 2000 # we had a lot of -- 2008 we had looft security as well and the -- lot of security as well and the pope came by the basilica twice. so we filled the mall withstanding people but it wasn't nearly the operation that this is now and the security has heightened. >> even the media for pope benedict was far less than what we have right now. >> that's right. we had 24 spots for the media along the area where we are right now for pope benedict and they were all taken and everybody was happy to have them. we're on a rise their will hold 10 press positions of -- 130 press positions. it's incredible. there are 900 credentialed to come here today. >> i didn't get a chance to say hello to you because you're so busy. you really have been hands on. this has been months and months of planning by you and your staff. >> it started the 19th of january for most of us because that's when the pope on his plane from the philippin

. >> with pope benedict xvi installed in the papal apartment, bergoglio was free to go home. this is buenos aires, the capital of argentina. a place known for steak, soccer, the tango. this is the place that would shape the man who would become pope francis. the bergoglio family lived here. the flores neighborhood which looked very different then. >> jorge bergoglio is a lower middle class kid in buenos aires. >> austin ivory is author of "the great reformer: francis and the making of a radical pope" and interviewed dozens of pope francis' friends and associates. >> if you had to describe the neighborhood of flores in the 1930s, the roads aren't paved at that stage. they're mostly dust. the roads turn to mud when it rains. these are simple houses. usually one-story. >> he was the typical family of migrants from italy. >> journalist elizabetha picay has known the pope more than a decade and wrote a book about him called "pope francis: life and revolution." >> he had a very normal childhood. he would go and play with fwren friends in the street. he would play football. >> peopl

. >> with pope benedict xvi installed in the papal apartment, bergoglio was free to go home. this is buenos aires, the capital of argentina. a place known for steak, soccer, the tango. this is the place that would shape the man who would become pope francis. the bergoglio family lived here. the flores neighborhood which looked very different then. >> jorge bergoglio is a lower middle class kid in a lower middle class area of buenos aires. >> austen ivereigh is author of "the great reformer: francis and the making of a radical pope" and has interviewed dozens of pope francis' friends and associates. >> if you had to describe the neighborhood of flores in the 1930s, the roads aren't paved at that stage. they're mostly dust. the roads turn to mud when it rains. yeah. these are simple houses. usually one-story. >> childhood, he was the typical family of migrants from italy. >> journalist elisabetha pique has known the pope for more than a decade and has written a book about him called "pope francis: life and revolution." >> he had a very normal childhood. he would go and play wit

i was there at the nunciature, too, when pope benedict came. i can only imagine crowds are going to be massive whenever he comes and goes over the next few days. >> don't know much about selfies. >> no sticks, we know. >> no selfie sticks. the pope is known for taking selfies in crowds much to the dismay and discomfort of his security forces. but there are not supposed to be selfies with the pope on this trip. but, again, he's very unpredictable. he's very much a people's pope. and -- >> i see a fiat and i see a chevrolet so i think we've got both countries covered with italy and the united states. and i don't know what cars are made in argentina, but if there were any, they may be there. and here we take another live look as everyone starts to make a move because everything shifts as we've mentioned down to embassy row where we just checked in with jackie bensen. there he will be getting the lay of the land over the next two days in washington. and it is, if you thought the cuba journey was busy, this is completely as i've said jam packed. eve

john paul ii's death in 2005 pave the way for benedict xvith. bush 43 traveled to italy to see him. and when the pope came to the us in 2008, he was celebrated on the white house south lawn. less than six months into his first term, president barack obama entered the walls of the vatican to meet benedict. he made his second trip there last year. this time meeting with a new leader of the catholic church. pope francis. >> the west wing says president obama will welcome pope francis at joint base andrews. that's an incredibly rare thing for any president to do. the holy father's official welcoming comes a day later in a ceremony at the white house. dawn? >> all right, thank you, joyce. >>> a three-day journey in a canoe is now over for the senior class of don't academy. the event is called the senior sojourn. students and staff taking part in the event. this year's seniors are challenged to reflect upon their lives and focus on their leadership roles in the coming year and further down the road. >>> one of our viewers sent us an absolutely adorable video today that we had to share wit

and benedict arnold's role in the revolution is a fascinating. arnold had been truly one of the heroes of the early american revolution. again, ambition, ego, pride, feeling like he is passed over at every turn, he is wounded at saratoga. very important battle. still leads a charge that helps turn the tide of battle. when the time came to honor those who fought at saratoga, they put up statues and left a niche empty. someone felt arnold's heroism should be marked. there is a marble boot at saratoga. it does not say it is arnold's, but it is. he was wounded in his leg that day and never walked properly. that is why there is a statue of arnold's boot. fascinating character study of this man who was close to washington. washington trusted him. but he and his very ambitious and young wife had other ideas about what would happen. again, i would love to be on the boat ride to hear what the two of them talked about. there are lots of hands. >> over here? mr. davis: then right in the back after that. >> a minuteman at great ridge who fought with lafayett

as benedict xvi markets out, it provides no room for gratuitous us in. pope francis would add mercy. the mosaic law which provides for tithes to the poor. the biggest problem i think was self-interest vs. the universal destination of goods. self-interest is a sin and can't be wiggled into a virtue by reference to its socially creative consequences. as david schindler has pointed you out, christians mean something very different by creativity from what capitalists mean. pope francis when he deals with some of these issues pulling on -- schindler pulls, the overlap is obvious. primary foundation for social teaching is the universal destination of goods. which means all the goods of the world are to be distributed so everyone has enough to live and to participate in society. this claim is prior to property rights. classic to mystic theory holds that private property rights can be recognized but only as a consequence of the fall. the original sin. another point of divergence that comes up all the time is that free-market ideologues always have seemed to have

i heard pope benedict was the one who signed off on philly. not that we shouldn't say, maybe like life long inferiority complex some of us have. why did we get this honor? >> the bottom line is we don't know. but i think we're delighted. this is a moment for us as philadelphia to overcome that complex that we're the number two. we're a big city that does big events, we're a global city that does global events. our mayor michael nutter says that all the time. this is our chance to do that and a chance to shine with one of the most revered and well respected leaders on the world stage. >> you are doing a great job. thanks for everything and after this is over you want you to get a long nap. >> looking forward to it. >> reporter: back to you. >> he and everyone at the archdiocese working hard for a long time. we showed you the pope taking off from the helipad in manhattan. now they are waiting for him to arrive here at jfk. he will board that american airlines plane, and will head to atlantic aviation at philly international. that's going to happ

pope benedict resigns. reseens? that's like it doesn't happen. and my immediate thought was, this was orchestrated. the fix was in. that was not working out. and they said, you know what? let's get rid of this guy and get the other guy we almost picked. i'm sorry to reduce it to the simple terms and that's what was going on. just a power play. >> cathy, what do you think? >> he was a poor choice. i think the other issue is that there was some -- there was unhappiness in the way he was serving the church. >> is anyone worried that the francis effect is just now or that this is something that is being ceded for a reap long time to come? >> the church is what it is for so many years that i think in order for it to change anybody that has anything to do with the hierarchy of the church has to change and that's not going to come so easily. >> anyone else feel that way? kevin? >> i once saw where someone said john paul told us what to say and do. benedict told us why we should do that and believe that and francis said, do it. if you want to advance in

when he came in second at the conclave that shows benedict he was asked afterward what name he would have chosen had he been elected and he said john 24th which tells you what his mindset was then but he had time to think about it afterwards and obviously thought deeply and came up a home or audacious choice. francis was not a priest. no pope has been named after a layman. francis was a subversive. as soon as he diet, at the order splintered off into all kinds of ways of saying he meant--that couldn't be true. there were various observances, spiritualist franciscans and conventional ones. that was the thing the surprised me from the outset, the name. second where he lived. the fact that france is not living in the papal palace but -- this has been discussed in terms of mutt jury versus austerity but that is not what he emphasizes. he says it is not a matter of loneliness versus comfort police she says i cannot live alone. i must live my life with the others. popes really say they need to others. the in the average entry ritual of the palace dramatize the ruler's apartments, self-suff

pope benedict did, too. pope benedict said there was a role for government in the regulation of the economy redistribution of wealth. liberal democrats talking about the role -- he also is challenging the system at its very roots. what we have is a carbon-based economy, which stresses consumer base. >> 's father, do you know anything about pollution in government controlled economies? were they so completely polluted -- >> i'm not defending socialism. >> father, may i finish my point? the private sector does a lot war against pollution. countries that are based under free-market capitalist system have much more success dealing with pollution than countries by communist china or the old soviet union. >> we have pollution controls in this country because the government has imposed them. neil: we have to go. it occurs to me you are thinking all these nasty questions came for me. forgive them, father for they know not what they do. they work for, well, sbm. when we come back, talk about bad guys of capitalism. w

two schools here, benedict and allen. the line behind me, african-american, this very much is his attempt to eat into some of hillary clinton's support. she does very well among african-americans nationally, very well with african-americans in this state april recent poll showed her gaining 60% of the black vote. he's at 3%. joe biden is at 30% of the african-american vote. joe biden, a wild card in this. don't know if he's going to enter this race. talking to the folks organizing this event here, they have low expectations in terms of thinking about how this crowd sort of identifies with and what they know about bernie sanders. they know he's a new face. you look inside where this event is going to start in about an hour, there's very little signage about bernie sanders. there's an american flag. there's benedict college signage and a palmetto state flag as well. they know rather than assuming that this crowd should be revved up for bernie sanders, that, first, they have to introduce him. one of the things that they've d

. >> we pulled a clip of you and i and liz cho covering the last pope, pope benedict, when he was at yankee stadium. there we are right there. it was kind of magical, and i would say the politics of benedict are not necessarily in keeping with a lot of politics, certainly jesuit politics and a lot of politics in new york. but the outpouring of emotion was wonderful of this man. one out of three people in new york city are catholics. this pope has touched people who are not catholics. he has gone outside the religion, and i think we're gonna see a lot of people who are not catholics coming to see this guy. >> well, and we already know a lot of people who aren't catholic who really like him. there's something about him that transcends these categories, and certainly political categories, but even religious categories. he was very comfortable when he was in argentina working with rabbis and imams and people from all different faith backgrounds, and he himself has also reached out to agnostics and atheists, which i think is totally appropriate. >> he was in cuba. he's in cuba this weeken

we start off with a little photographic essay of his early life, then the abdication of pope benedict. there's 1700 photographs in the book. all the images from pope benedict's abdication, then the election process, the white smoke coming out over st. peters. i was there on that evening and witnessed it. then his installation. and then the bulk of the book is made up -- we broke it into month by month. so the reader will be able to see what kind of thing the pope does. he gets up at 4:00 in the morning. he hamas at 7:00, prayers. he goes down, eats with the over 70 priests in the vatican. he goes off, has meetings in the morning. comes back for lunch. it's a cafeteria he takes a tray, sits down with whoever is with business. >> just a few more seconds here. for all of new yorkers, what will they glean from this visit this week no matter what their faith is? >> they'll see somebody who has a fantastic sense of humanity, fantastic belief in humanity, they'll enjoy this visit. >> father collins, thanks for coming in. we're looking live at the ceremony and mass in havana. history before o

he was the head of pope benedict's security force. and all of a sudden, 2013, pope francis was elected. and his job went from being something that was understandable within the realm of, you know, what you would expect to do as a chief security officer for the vatican city state to a pope who wouldn't live on the top floor of the apostolic palace, but went to live in a guest house that backs out into the road. and a pope who after mass he would sail outside of the vatican city walls so he's been a fascinating challenge for his security team who have risen to the challenge. one of the most interesting things i have been watching is the relationship between those two you can see them at times almost a little bit of tension. the pope wants to stop, no, here you can't, here you can. it's turned into quite a beautiful relationship if you watch them together. >> that's fun, i'll have to pay more attention to that with regard to people and the way they approach the pope, we have seen people reach out to him and security protocol was such tha

in 2008. >> i was walking around, and wife seen benedict many times. >> reporter: and the fences on these sidewalks will be keeping those curious onlookers separated from the religious faithful who will come here for the evening vespers that start at 6:45. >>> if you are traveling, of best to leave the car at home. new jersey transit will have extra trains and buses on standby. they are adding trains during offpeak hours in the next two days. and metro north is altering its schedule on friday. in manhattan, subways are recommended over buses because of street closures. and can you find the closure information on our website, cbsnewyork.com. >>> pope francis spreading his word on special media. and the few who were lucky enough to get the first selfies with him today. >>> also tributes tonight to yogi berra. one lit up a big screen before the yankees battled the blue jays in toronto. and the other here in new york city. the empire state shining its yafshgy pin-- yankee pinstripes. >> reporter: he stormed the beaches at normandy during world war ii as a 19-year-old member of of the na

anchor: benedict, thank you very much. reporting from london. now, the united nations wants an international war crimes court to investigate the atrocities committed during sri lanka's 26-year civil war.officials say the company will need outside assistance to address what it calls "horrific abuses" and to promote reconciliation. reporter: strong evidence war crimes were committed in the sri lankan civil war between 1993 and 2009 by both sides. a long-awaited u.n. report details use of torture, executions, and sexual abuse by government forces, accusing rebels of assassinations and the use of child soldiers. it claims up to 40,000 mainly tamil civilians may have been killed in a final offensive on rebel held territory. the top human rights official says sri lanka should set up a special court to investigate alleged atrocities committed over the years of civil war. court thato be a will meet the expectations of victims, and the international community alike. opelling sri lanka into a new future, where impunity is not evident. reporter: the propos

pope benedict was known to be such an intellect. did he reach the hearts and minds of those who work within the catholic church to the extent we're presuming pope francis does? >> well, you're right in saying they're very different in style, temperament, personality. pope benedict is a very retiring man a scholar, a great writer and not just operating at the highest levels, he could do that, i think a very graceful writer. i loved readings his sermons, books, homilies, essays, and i think he will have a very long-lasting effect on the church. we talk about the fathers of a church, those ancient teachers whose writings are still read. i think benedict was a bit like a father of the church. now, our current pope, as i say, is like the parish priest of the world. so he's able to speak in a way that appeals immediately to the imagination and to the heart and that has a powerful effect. each one is going to have a long-term effect in a different way and that's part of the genius of the holy spirit in giving us these two men back to back.

cost about 6 million when pope benedict was here. we have no idea how much this visit -- >> he was here three days. this is a shorter visit. >> less than 40 hours, 39 hours and 47 minutes between right now and when he leaves wheels up from this airport at j.f.k. saturday morning at 8:00 a.m. to philadelphia. it will be interesting to see who greets him in philadelphia, whether he is with the heads of the catholic church there. [ indiscernible ] this weather is beautiful. >> a beautiful day like today. i noelle love our city as we love our city. >> this is not the first time in new york. this is the first time the pope, as a person has ever been to the united states. he came from argentina. >> he stayed close to home because he was involved in that >> keeping with the simple life, he will talk to the vespers tonight. he does not go to the papal retreat. he stays in his quarters at the his vacation is to read more and sleep in. [ inaudible ]. >> he likes the sense of contact with people. >> we have a just with it priest coming on as ou

i wanted to can you, since you saw benedict, what's the difference between pope benedict and pope francis? >> i think pope francis has put a new face on teachings that are age-old but still so important. he -- pope francis, you know, spoke to these things in a way that was very european and act demic and francis speaks them through actions, being a pope from the americas, son of immigrants, he's been such a fresh voice on a church that has needed a face-lift at times but teaching hasn't changed but certainly the way it's been lived out and emphasis for sure. >> i hope that little teddy gets to be blessed. thank you so much. congratulations, by the way. so you see, chris, you're right. intense feelings about pope francis. and i think that people love him so much because he puts himself out there. he dares to be human in a way other popes past have not. >> that's a good explanation, carol. first of all, sleeping baby, that's a blessing already, poppy, especially in a situation, it could go a very didn't way for them. but you can't look at pope francis as we would these other big figures tha

compare him to benedict vi. you couldn't imagine going near him. so fragile and removed, remote even. and this guy, so italian. grabbing the crowd. reminded me of a father's knights of columbus buddies. being physical with the people. it's like a parish priest on a sick call. physically in touch with people. >> also important to remember that john paul ii the first tactile pope and understood people and crowds. chris, we are looking at what i believe is michigan avenue and these are live pictures of the motorcade as it makes the final turn. there's the fiat carrying the pope and it's making the final turn into the event. i know you well enough to know that you are also probably thinking about president kennedy today having written about him extensively the way the catholic church is viewed in american life and his kind of pioneering place in all that. >> you know, it's amazing. we had a president-elected the first catholic in 1960 and the republicans within 4 years nominated someone for vice president as catholic and no one noticed. that's how good

pope john paul and benedict visited that site and francis is the first to celebrate mass there. when francis arrived at joint base andrew this is afternoon he will be greeted by the president and first lady, a rare gesture of a sitting president. tomorrow morning, president obama will host the pope at the white house which is the third pope in history to visit 1600 pennsylvania avenue. later this week, he'll visit capitol hill, becoming the first pope to address a session of congress. some catholics find solace in pope francis' leadership on compassion and inclusiveness and equality. even those who are condemned doctrine. i talked to a panel about people loyal to the catholicism even though the traditional teaches leave them side loined and asked if pope francis' message is making a difference to them. >> the church alienated lgbt people it's so hard to feel welcome. >> specifically for you as a lesbian woman active in the lgbt community, why do you think that pope francis has been making a difference or do you feel otherwise? >> i think he has been making a difference. he gives

it is said he even goes over and talks to benedict from time to time. i think he is quite his own manment someone i know who works in the vatican said to me one of the interesting things about francis is he will come up to you and ask you a question. but he already knows the answer. he wants to know what you think the answer is. he will ask two or three other people the same question in a different way. and then he puts it all together. so i think he relies on people who think like him a bit. he certainly has a lot of spanish-speakers around him. i think he's comfortable with his own kind, if you will, and maybe a little distrustful of the italians which understandable given the way the vatican works and the history. but i think he gets smart people around him. elise ens to them and then makes up his own mind. i don't think anybody pushes him in any one direction at all. >> rose: what does he say about what he wants to accomplish in this visit, allen? >> he hasn't been specific but it's fairly obvious what his agenda is. this is a place you cannot ignor

and benedict the 16th were often interpreted. i think they brought a distorting lens to what those two great hopes had to say. with pope francis there is no need to interpret him. there is nothing confusing about it. you can go and talk to some immigrant workers who work picking the tomatoes that we will have with our salad at lunch. they are not confused by pope francis. the people leveling that charge do not like what he has to say. the critique is systemic. the change that he calls for is not merely the individual -- that individual capitalist become more virtuous. but it is deeper than that. if that were the case, if it was only a matter of people anymore virtuously, any system would do. i am reminded of madison who said if men were angels there would be no need for government. the pope's critique of the free market system has two tracks. one is based on facts on the ground and the other is at the level of theory. in both, he is not only condemning excesses that he is condemning the system. as he. a free market ideology oppos

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and i think, once again, you know, john paul is the mystic, benedict's the teacher. francis is the heart. he speaks with the language of the heart, language people can understand. i think it does, for some conservatives, they're like, well, wait, you weren't specific enough. there's people like that in the church, but once again, i think the age and the time with which we're living, the leadership that he's exemplifying iffer the whole church is we've got to create space for everyone. a sense of dialogue where people -- christianity is about a pilgrimage. about a journey from earth to heaven. it's not about doing right things to be a good person. it's about knowing that god loves you and that he's chasing after your whole life. and i think american catholicism, the legacy, not just of the people the holy father's mentioned, like dorothy day, but also great literary giants. oh, gosh, the name's blanking on me, but flannery o'connor. powerful catholics, but they weren't perfect. and i think he's trying to create a church not about perfection, but it's about the journey

peter's square, his first public act as pope he prayed for his predecessor, pope benedict xvi and then asked people to pray for him. i know people who were there that night and hundreds of thousands of people gathered there and said you could hear a pin drop it was so quiet the way people prayed for him. it's a very endearing quality of this holy father. >> i have to say being from philly what a demonstrative performance by the cardinal. >> you know, chris, i was thinking he came to the white house. he came to the united nations, the nation's capitol to speak before congress. and my favorite athletic place madison square garden. tomorrow, chris, he is going to go to the most -- he is going to meet the most important institution in america, in the world. that is the american family, the family, the root of the soul and the heart of america. chris, i would say one other thing because i heard you say beautifully yesterday about you gave the homily at your aunt's funeral, sister of st. joseph who talk me. yesterday at st. patrick's church the holy father praised the nuns and thanked them f

benedict more introverted. but when pope francis became pope he did seem to have a sort of transformation. many people in argentina said he was quite different when he was archbishop and cardinal there. and he seems to pick up speed as it were and get energy from the crowd and have a sense, and he has said this himself, of urgency about the issues, about being out with people and getting his message out to the world. i think that he feels that very deeply and possibly only since he's become pope. you know, sort of taking on the mantle of this huge responsibility, accepted it and is spending everything he's got for it. >> we have the video, the live pictures coming in from the pope mobile. the huge crowds over there. jim sciutto, we've lost the audio from the crowds screaming. we can hear it because we're above central park right now right above columbus circle. the opening to central park. now we're beginning to hear some of that crowd right now. but these are very excited new yorkers. >> the well of sound that

as benedict xvi markets out, it provides no room for gratuitous us in. pope francis would add mercy. the mosaic law which provides for tithes to the poor. the biggest problem i think was self-interest vs. the universal destination of goods. self-interest is a sin and can't be wiggled into a virtue by reference to its socially creative consequences. as david schindler has pointed you out, christians mean something very different by creativity from what capitalists mean. pope francis when he deals with some of these issues pulling on -- schindler pulls, the overlap is obvious. primary foundation for social teaching is the universal destination of goods. which means all the goods of the world are to be distributed so everyone has enough to live and to participate in society. this claim is prior to property rights. classic to mystic theory holds that private property rights can be recognized but only as a consequence of the fall. the original sin. another point of divergence that comes up all the time is that free-market ideologues always have seemed to have

i've had the opportunity to meet pope john paul ii, pope benedict and now pope francis. it's an unbelievable experience to meet christ's vicars here on earth. it's unbelievable. there's something about francis. his carism, his simplicity and love for people is infectious. you can see that in rome but you can see it now in our own country in the united states of america. >> that translates, comes right through the tv. a lot of people here hoping they will see that in person. father gallagher, let's talk about the church event, canonization at the basilica national shrine of immaculate conception. beautiful mass. >> a very long day for the holy father. the greeting at the white house. something we all know makes him somewhat uncomfortable. he's a very simple person. but the beauty of being treated by the president of the united states. then having make time to relax. he was then taken to the basilica of the national shrine of immaculate conception, the largest church in the western hemisphere. there he was greeted by a priest from the diocese of scranton and cardinal wuerl

you know, i've covered three popes, john paul and benedict and fantasy to think there wasn't resistance. it came from different quarters but it could occasionally be ferocious. this is an old story. opposition to popes goes back to st. peter and his clashes with paul. so i mean, in that sense, you know, i wouldn't over dramatize the resistance and i don't see evidence he's been hobbled by it. >> you said today that pope francis was really kind of placing himself in the pantheon with his predecessors with believes. >> francis throughout this trip has been trying in someways to connect himself with both his immediate predecessors and all those who came before him. on the plane on the way over here, he said look, i'm not a flaming leftist. i'm speaking the social doctrine of the church and he actually got poofeisty and defied us to e up with an instance where he said something not part of the official teaching of the church and a bet nobody would take. >> sister, do you believe too much is made of this? how do you see any divisions that may exist? >> absolutely. i think too much is made of

when pope benedict came here in 2008, security was equally as tight. in fact, residents in the neighborhood remember it well. i spoke to one woman who had a little bit of a startling moment back then. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i live on the third floor. i can see everything that's happening. i have a direct view. the last time the pope was here, when i opened up my bedroom window, i was not expecting this, i saw sharp shooters with facing me and they were on the roof top of all of the buildings here. it was something that was so frightening but of course necessary. >> necessary absolutely. the security still very tight at this point. the residence here, it's really the last stop on the pope's trip through the city this evening. after he leaves vespers at st. patrick's cathedral, that's when we're told he'll head over to the residence and that's expected to happen sometime after 8:00 this evening. chuck and sibila, back to you. >> thank you very much. we can see the pope's helicopter now. it's approaching the downtown heliport. this is a s

and this was a trip that was planned when benedict was the pope. and if he had had his druthers, it would have been in the west. but he' soing where catholicism started in the united states. there's so much aat

back then you remember pope benedict was the pope. he stepped down and came the election of pope francis who came in second in the election. a lot of people don't know that. the helicopter will taxi over to the american airlines flight a lot of people will be saying goodbye to him in new york city, so we can say hello to him in philadelphia. >> we'll see that beautiful smile we expect to see him. a lot of people think he is very serious very dour, he said at the moment when he realized he became pope a happiness infused into his soul. that has carried fourth as he has gone out and greeted people. he said to a friend being pope is very entertaining. you would imagine he sees quite a few things as he goes through his day. matt you and i and i have done expensive reading on him from the beginning. his call to help those in need. if you see somebody in a wheelchair or visibly sick, he makes his way out, that's what christ would do, he would find the leper and kiss the wounds stop ignoring those at the margins and embrace them and bring th