and then the hastert speakership. so i started doing some historical research and found all these interesting stories about speakers going back to the 1940s and sam rayburn, and then i started thinking, well, if speakers matter, we need to really try to understand that, how do we know they matter? when can we say they're actually changing the outcome of a vote? and then also trying to understand why they do it. is it always because it's something their party wants or is it something else? and then based on my research i found something interesting, which is that speakers not only made a difference and do make a difference but they do things sometimes because they think it matters or the district they're representing thinks it matters or the president thinks it matters. even if their own party in the house of representatives doesn't think it matters. and so that became the basis of the book. >> host: could newt gingrich's speakership have been longer. >> guest: historical counterfactuals are different. hard to save it

was something that hadn't been explored very much and i was still interested in and then speakership that had just gun. i -- begun. i started doing historical research and found interesting stories about speakers and then i started thinking, speakers matter. you need to try to understand that. how do they know that they matter? is it always because it's something the party wants or something else. based on my research i found something interesting, which is speakers not only have made a difference and do make a difference, but they do things sometimes because they think it matters or the district they're representing thinks it matters or the president thinks it matters even if their own party in the house of representatives doesn't think it matters. >> host: could newt gingrich speakership could have been longer? >> guest: it's hard to say if it could have been longer. there was a way in which going rich had a similar problem to speaker boehner, fairly young group of members, they come in and have a sense that they know how to fix things and at first that creates tremendous enthusias

i think john boehner has challenges to his speakership. when used couple that with some of the more, shall we say independent-minded members of the party right now in the house representatives, it makes it harder for him to count on the party loyalty that's necessary to enact legislation, especially when you can't get any votes from the minority party. i would say john boehner has done the best he could do with the bad hand he dealt himself. >> speakers are also members of the congress. how much attention do they pay to their particular district once they become speaker? >> that's one of the things i argue in the book. traditionally people believe once they become speakers, they want to do with their party wants. while i acknowledge that's true to a large degree of the book, i also point out is that they do have issues and concerns that matter to them personally. every once in a while we see them pushing for legislation that doesn't seem that important to the majority. education is very important to john boehner personally. if you look bac

gingrich's newt speakership have been longer? matthew: historical counter factuals are difficult. it's hard to say if it could have been longer. there was a way in which gingrich had a somewhat similar problem to speaker boehner which new,fairly large group of young members who -- this is not unusual. this.arties have had they come in, they're a little zealous. they have a sense that they know how to fix things. at first that creates tremendous enthusiasm and energy the majorityul to party but invariably that group, getembers of it, starts to disillusioned. they feel the things they got elected on are not being done then they become a challenge for a speaker and this happened albert in the 1970's. this happened in many ways is what's happened to speaker boehner but with gingrich he had the same problem so to some difficultwas a situation for anyone, would have been difficult, no matter who the speaker was. there was another more personal aspect to it i would that gingrich was the kind of speaker who believed in kind of being the general, the leader of the troops and the folks woul

he once said that speakership is the hardest job in washington. and i think that pretty much sums up the experience of john boehner. imagine how much has changed since the 1930s when john nance pa garner was saying, if anything the job has gotten more difficult now. speakers have to deal with huge amounts of campaign funding, independent groups funding sometimes primary challenges against members of your party, you have a 24-hour news cycle, a plethora of interest groups, putting tremendous pressure on the job of speaker to try to get things done without making too many people angry. i think that boehner certainly has -- those are challenges to his speakership. then couple that with some of the more, shall we say, independent-minded members of his party right now in the house 0 of representatives that make it harder for them count on the party loyalty necessary to enact legislation especially when you can't get any votes from the minority party. i would say that boehner has done the best he would do with a bad hand. >> host: professor green, membe

very effective as a speaker, particularly in the first year of speakership in the first 100 days, as contra promised of legislation. it was quite remarkable what he could get through the house of representatives. that did not mean that he was not disliked by democrats. was in the republican minority in the 1980's, 1970's, 1990's and he helped bring down jim wright, the speaker in the 1980's. a lot of democrats really disliked him intensely. you can still be an effective speaker but also be one that the other party does not care for. i think the other issue is a takes a different set of skills to be a good speaker versus a good president and a set of skills to be elected speaker versus elected president. to be elected speaker, you need 218 members of the house to agree should be speaker but to be president, you have to campaign, raise money, get support, when primaries and caucuses, and it is a difficult thing to do well. i think there are two separate sets of skills. host: who was the first speaker of the house? guest: now you're going to -- i remember -- host: i will give you a mome

i was interested at this point in the end of the gingrich speakership and the hastert speakership which had just begun. based on that i started doing historical research and found all these interesting stories about speakers going back to the 1940's and sam rayburn. then i started thinking, well, speakers -- if speakers matter, we need to really try to understand that. how do we know they matter? when can we say yes they are changing the outcome of a vote? and understand why they do it. is it always something because the party wants or something else? then based on my research i found something interesting which was that speakers not only have made a difference and do make a difference, but they do things sometimes because they think it matters or the district they are representing thinks it matters, or the president thinks it matters. even if their own party in the house of representatives doesn't think it matters. so that became the basis of the book. host: could newt gingrich's speakership have been longer? mr. green: historical counter fact use are always difficult. it's hard to say

to win the speakership at the enof october he needs 218. when you have 247 members of your caucus, if 30 peel away you have less than 218 and therefore you have democrats that can conceivably keep mccarthy from winning the house speakership at the end of the month. that was the first thing. these 30 or 40 conservatives, they're members of the tea parties the freedom caucus formed earlier this year. keep in mind, randall, these are the same republicans that blocked the house republican leadership plans earlier this year for border security legislation because they believed it wasn't tough enough. they were leading the fight in the house to defund planned parenthood. they're the same group able to claim credit for forcing john boehner to step down. some of the establish want republicans call this group of conservative republicans the crazies, the hell no caucus and now they describe them as the dog that has caught the car twice with boehner and now with mccarthy. again, you only need 30 or 40 votes to stick together in this republican caucus,

john: which of course the fact that it cost mccathy the speakership keeps boehner in the speakership longer? >> he'll be there for possibly another couple of months while they figure this out. >> what happens now? if it's paul ryan or anyone else, won't they face the same sorts of things that the two past -- john harwood and -- john boehner and kevin mccarthy faced? >> it requires 218 votes to be elected speaker of the house. that means you can only lose 29 before you can't be elected. the house freedom caucus said this would be endorsing a different candidate over mccarthy. mccarthy could have won a house majority of the republicans but not necessarily a majority of the house at large. that would have forecasted a fight. we've started to hear some house freedom caucus members question paul ryan's credentials. >> do you think anyone can do this job? >> in a word, no. it is very difficult to see how anybody shepherds a very divided republican conference. on one side you've got sort of the institutionalists, the people who come to show that the republican party is able to govern, able

it could be a year and a half speakership. i think that is the calculus in why some people haven't stood up. now that mccarthy doesn't speak down i think it could change. it has been devastating and this is going to be the history of the down fall of the majority leader becoming the speaker. >> i am watching social media and one of our washington, d.c. producers told us that the tweets are coming out. i am curious for people who may be turning on the television and hearing this and saying why is this so critical. can you tell me what is at stake to put this into perspective for people. >> what is at stake is the leadership of the republican party in the house. this is the place that has been generating the bills that went over to the senate and not lived a life there because of the frustration of the house conservatives in the senate. making the house work for the republican majority is the job of the majority leader and the whip. it is crucial they do so they can live up to what they talked about on the campaign trail. the fr

the end of the gingrich speakership and the pastor -- and the hastert speakership which had just begun. i found all these interesting stories about speakers owing back to the 1940's with raburn. i started thinking, if speakers matter, how do we know that they matter, when we know that they are actually changing the outcome and a vote? and also, to understand why they do it. is it always something their party wants or is it something else? my research found something interesting, which is that they not only have make a difference and to make a difference, but make a is -- and do difference, but they do things sometimes because they think it matters, even if their own party doesn't think it matters. peter: good newt gingrich's -- could newt gingrich's speakership have been longer? mr. green: historical counterfactual's are always difficult. there was a way in which gingrich always had a similar problem to speaker boehner, which is a fairly large group of new, young members. this is not unusual, both parties have had this. they come in, they are seles, -- they are zealous, have a feeling

after pushing back against requests to seek the speakership, representattve paul ryan has decided he could do the job. but andrew spencer tells us the congressman has a few the pressure finally ever sought." almost grudgingly, ryan told his fellow republicans in congress tpat he is willina to become speaker of the house... ...but he has conditions. "i laid out for conference what takes to have a successful speakership, and i will leave it to my colleagues to decide if i am that unifying pefson." a fractured g-o-p in the house ended majority leader kevin carthy's bid to become speaker. he pulled his name from consideration earlier this month. lawmakers then turned to former vice presidential candidate paul ryann in n ddition to wanting support from three different groups of republicans in the house, ryan says he wants changes to house rules. ...and one other thing. not give up my faaly time." speaear john boehner says he often works very long boehner plans to resign at the end of the month. with ryan's demands laid out on the table, whether he hahds of his colleagues. andrew spencer,

you were going to run for the speakership. why change at noon? what happened those four hours? >> you know, we had our conference and there's calls into the district. i don't want making voting for speaker a tough one. i don't want to go to the floor and win with 220 votes. i think the best thing for our party right now is to have 247 votes on the floor. if we are going to be strong, we got to be 100% united. i think you know what, let's put the conference first. look, i have been talking with a number of members. we have been thinking about this throughout the week, trying to see if we can get there. i just think it's best to have a new face. >> how much did your comments about benghazi last week play into your decision to step aside today? >> well, that wasn't helpful. yeah. i could have said it much better. but this benghazi committee was only created for one purpose, to find the truth on behalf of the

representative labrador of idaho noted that two thirds of the conservative group backs ryan for the speakership, but said the group will only endorse if 80% of members support ryan. we could not get to a consensus, labrador said. the ball is in paul ryan scored. court. -- paul ryan's this is not about crowning a king, it is about working together by making sure every member feels empowered. that is from the hill. here is outgoing speaker john boehner talking about this eager raise from earlier today -- the speaker race from earlier today. speaker boehner: today, the president has on his desk a bipartisan national defense authorization bill. the bill provides our troops with the resources they need to keep america safe. it meets the funding levels that the president requested. yet, the president has vowed to veto it. why? because he wants to stop and spend more money on his domestic agenda. it's time to put our troops first, it's time to stop playing political games. iranian terrorists soon are going to have access to billions of dollars as a result of the president's nuclear deal. it's no time

kevin mccarthy announced last week he would not speak the speakership before the house recess. that the left everyone looking to ryan. paul ryan is the only saviour for republican party, seemingly incapable of governing itself despite having the largest majority notice house since the 1920s. despite 247 votes in the house, the house republican caucus has seemingly been unable to do the basic work of government without essentially breaking party line and getting democratic votes. and into this vacuum of power walked, we thought, possibly, maybe, paul ryan. paul ryan you see there in that little bit of vo avoiding questions from reporters earlier today. paul ryan has said and brendon buck has been saying all along, paul ryan does not want this job. he wants absolutely nothing to do with this job. many suspect because a, the house caucus is totally ungovernable and b, because paul ryan quite evidently the former vp nominee of the republican party has aspirations for much higher office. many people believe probably rightly house speakership would be the terminus of any political ca

that's something that's defined the so to speakership the last few years of john boehner. all that being said, josÉ, i think the next three days are critical because we're going to see whether the paul ryan pre-nub is okay in the eyes of house conservatives. that's what paul ryan did last night, put forward a prenewspaper. prenup. i'm going to undertake this marriage -- i don't necessarily want to be married to all of you. you're going to have to accept me for me. i don't think it's a slam-dunk. jake sherman. live tv from "politico." is it a slam dunk? >> i think it's likely. >> likely from jake sherman who gets more information, josÉ, than pretty much any reporter. we'll see how it plays out. likely, iffy, who knows. >> luke and kelly, thank you very much for being with me. we will talk to you next hour. >>> also a reminder, we'll bring you speaker boehner's remarks live at 10:00 eastern time. while we keep watch on the former vice president candidate, we're talking about paul ryan, still waiting on the current vp to make up his mind about whether he'll run for presiden

what he told the associated press about moving up to the speakership. no "one of the reasons i've always passed up elected leadership positions in the house, you know, speaker, leader, all the things people ask you to run for, is because it takes you away from your family even more. i've made career decisions based on family balance and part of that is because of my own upbringing and my own childhood e." will he reconcile, how can he, will he, work and duty? >> everybody has to make that balance, family and kids, between career, job and family. the word you mentioned, duty, something that is really coming up in these discussions. i heard from a lot of members yesterday on capitol hill who were, i think, unnerved by what happened thursday with mccarthy dropping out. a lot calmer, sort of coming around to the idea of maybe we can really coalesce around this guy. i think that's having a big impact on his decision. before he was saying, i'm not doing it, not doing it. reports say he's considering it. his colleagues sort of appealing to the need, to sort of

paul ryan says he will speak -- will seek the speakership but he has demands. all of that valley, california on wednesday october 21, 2015. >> 2015? you mean we are in the future? steve: october 21, 2015. today is the date that marty mcfly and doc brown traveled to, from 1985, in the movie back to the future. the world today a lot different , than it was 30 years ago. stacey: kcci is a lot different too. emmy victor dug deep into the archives and put together this blast from the past. emmy: thirty years ago today, kcci reporters were busy covering the stories impacting iowans the most. >> the new law gives clerks of court judicial powers by granting them the right to hold hearings in regards to child support payments. emmy: who recognizes this familiar face? governor terry branstad spent his day trying to avoid a farm credit system collapse. >> >> the liquidation of farmers will be horrendous. it will be a very bloody mess that we can not afford in the emmy: the same day, branstad's future opponent lowell junkins made a big announcement. he was stepping down as

at the same time, capitol hill has been roiled by the debate over the speakership. majority leader mccarthy made some controversial remarks about the benghazi committee. then he dropped his bid a few days later. obviously you're a member of the other party, but how do you think those two things were related? >> i think that what representative mccarthy said was what everybody had long since recognized. and that is that this committee -- whatever its genesis, whatever its original purpose might have been -- and many of us were skeptical even from the beginning -- has become a committee interested in only one thing and that is trying to inflict damage on secretary clinton. if you look at the press releases put out by the committee, they are disproportionately about secretary clinton. if you look at the obsessive focus of the committee's work and its public statements, it is essentially all about secretary clinton. we have lost sight of what was supposed to be the object and that is discovering something new about that tragic night in benghazi. i feel terrible for the

speakership and the house a little bit. mr. pataki: i thought you were going to talk abouth mets. i like the mets. i grew up a yankee fan. i do not want to sound like a politician b iikbo teams. josh: i remember the mets from 1986. let' s ve on. the speakership and the house of john boehner is leaving nobodyee twa this to how important is it that republicans show unity and get som t up the? mr. pa: it is very important. the fact that paul ryan has indicated he is willing and i think he is running is a good thing for the party. we do not have the presidency so when you do not have the presidency -- right now we do not have a nominee -- eventually the nominee wi bth f athe country identifies with the republican party. paul rya thtn. lines and noju bld consensus among republicans but work with democrats. that is one of the reahe has be rucncbeushe was to see government work. as i do. josh: we will see a lot in new hampshire. mr. pataki: file is a beautiful time to be here. sh the leaves are starting to fall. mr. pataki: i do not mind the winter. i' m the lyanda w c south to get to ne

is the politics of that impacting in anyway, the battle for the speakership? >> it's certainly coming in to play. john boehner said he wants to clean out the barn before he hands over the speaker's gavel. in loft ways he's giving a gift to paul ryan but paul ryan pushed back and said that the process that gets him to this budget deal stinks. ryan is saying that he'll support the deal, but he doesn't like the way it was negotiated. so ryan has given himself some political cover even as he is benefiting from this bipartisan deal. and the timing really is important because the united states has a debt limit for next week. without is passing through the house and senate over the next few days. >> libby casey on capitol hill for us. libby, thank you. former house speaker dennis hastert pleaded guilty to evading banking laws. he paid a former student $3.5 million reportedly to cover up sexual abuse allegations. he took the money out in small incorrupts to avoid reporting the withdrawals. under the plea deal officers dropped the charges that he lied to the fbi. he is

i think he is going to get the speakership. i don't see a way in which chaffetz can actually stop him. it's going to be a shaky position. right about organizing the news in bringing the conference together. in terms of presentation, this is a risky presentation. >> meantime, talking trade now. the white house pushing this transpacific partnership known as the tpp, 11 other countries have agreed to the deal but congress has to weigh in. and presidential candidates are already weighing in. donald trump tweeted out today about this perspective deal. the incompetence of our current administration is beyond comprehension, tpp a terrible deal. mike huckabee tweeted out whenning iniating with foreign countries, the obama administration gets rolled like sushi. tpp asian trade deal is a gut in the workers with: democrats also weighing in, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders. where is this going? >> they will lose votes on the left because the left doesn't like unregulated unsupervised spontaneous free economic activity. period. at home or

better hope that boehner gets in debt ceiling and some of these issues off the table because if his speakership starts with this and he's trying to get tough issues done without nancy pelosi's help, he's going to start speakership in a very bad way. new hampshire, this is your state. while we did spend the entire day with just one of the republican presidential candidate, there are 14 other republicans running for president. what is your overall take for the republican nomination? who has a good chance right now? drew: in new hampshire, i feel bad saying this and john kasich's headquarters, but right now, fiorina looks good in new hampshire. rubio is on a great trajectory, even though he is low. i think ben carson. mark: you did not mention trump, who is leading. did not mention bush. drew: no. bush has a chance. mark: why fiorina? drew: she's exciting. people have seen her communicate. people want to come to her events. mark: you say rubio, but his poll standing is not that great. people complain he's not here very much. what leads you to believe he has a chance to catch up? drew: when you tal

i think he is going to get the speakership. i don't see a way in which chaffetz can actually stop him. it's going to be a shaky position. right about organizing the news in bringing the conference together. in terms of presentation, this is a risky presentation. >> meantime, talking trade now. the white house pushing this transpacific partnership known as the tpp, 11 other countries have agreed to the deal but congress has to weigh in. and presidential candidates are already weighing in. donald trump tweeted out today about this perspective deal. the incompetence of our current administration is beyond comprehension, tpp a terrible deal. mike huckabee tweeted out whenning iniating with foreign countries, the obama administration gets rolled like sushi. tpp asian trade deal is a gut in the workers with: democrats also weighing in, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders. where is this going? >> they will lose votes on the left because the left doesn't like unregulated unsupervised spontaneous free economic activity. period. at home or

>> i don't think the speakership is a 9-5 job. i've got family and that's why i'm not running for speaker or any other position like that. you have to work on the for deep cuts in food stamps, housing assistance, and proposed converting medicare into a voucher program. >> we want to have real fiscal control. >> reporter: most republicans say they'll back him. speaker boehner signaled today ryan's the only viable option. what's plan "b" if he doesn't decide to jump in on fridays? >> don't know. >> reporter: "don't know." ryan's hard-ball approach may not be sitting well with some of the hard-liners but it is the kind of strategic thinking they've been saying they want in a speaker. and it's all in their hands now, scott, because ryan will not be able to get the 218 votes he would need on the house floor next thursday unless at least some of them it support him. >> pelley: and ryan has also worked effectively with democrats. nancy cordes on capitol hill. nancy, thank you. another politician who wants things on his own term is russia

currentlyfetz, the chairman of the reform committee who was seeking the speakership tweeted out that he is out and supporting paul ryan. the right person at the right time. daniel webster, the republican from florida u.s. at the endorsement of the house freedom out.s says he is not he is still in it. the freedom caucus endorsing him when kevin mccarthy was still seeking the top spot. this morning, front page of the drudge report, king paul, pledge your allegiance is their headline. he is a democrat favorite after harry reid endorsed him for the job and obama's newport are. -- new partner. juliet, what do you think of paul ryan? whenr: i am comfortable, it comes to politics and voting, you'd have to decide who you are comfortable with, you will never be 100% with anyone. i am comfortable, i am ok, i am an independent. host: what do you think he can do that another republican could not do? caller: he is strong. i think he has good relationships around there. i have been watching it a little bit. that is what you need. you need to have good relationships. he has very good ideas. i like

ryan for his upcoming speakership. but the problem is that nobody took the little person for -- they took them for granted. anybody can be speaker of the house and they're supposed to be representatives of the constituency and nobody is listening. that's actually a shame. that's what's wrong with the house and the senate is that all our elected officials are not listening to anybody. i'm a retired d.c. firefighter, 22 years of active service in the district of columbia. i thought i could be speaker of the house because i'm a hardworking individual and i did all the right things and i called the parliamentarian of the house and i did all the right things in a grass root effort and i got no response from any of the congressmen that i called and that's actually a shame. host: as he points out, he's right. the constitution says the house members should choose their elected leadership. it doesn't say in there a speaker of the house has to be a member of the house or a member of congress, for that matter. paul ryan, winning

sure you can win the vote for the speakership. that's not the problem. the problem is you have any guarantees from the freedom caucus, that they're going to back you on the debt ceiling, on the budget, on reconciliation, on all that's coming up. i would assume he would get that. otherwise it would make no sense for him to jump in. as to whether he is jumping in, my psychiatry is a little rusty. looking at the speaker and the interview with you, he looked like a man who had just been told that he's getting out on parole. he is a very happy guy. i assume that means that he's going to escape the speakership and there's somebody to take his place. >> there was some news about obamacare and there's been a lot of votes to repeal obamacare in the house. listen to this. moving forward another piece of legislation. >> why not push for budget reconciliation process repeal 85% of obamacare through that. >> that ill could be on the floor. could be on the floor as elly as this week. if not it will be on the floor next week. >> you're going to do it? >> we're going to

sure you can win the vote for the speakership. that's not the problem. the problem is you have any guarantees from the freedom caucus, that they're going to back you on the debt ceiling, on the budget, on reconciliation, on all that's coming up. i would assume he would get that. otherwise it would make no sense for him to jump in. as to whether he is jumping in, my psychiatry is a little rusty. looking at the speaker and the interview with you, he looked like a man who had just been told that he's getting out on parole. he is a very happy guy. i assume that means that he's going to escape the speakership and there's somebody to take his place. >> there was some news about obamacare and there's been a lot of votes to repeal obamacare in the house. listen to this. moving forward another piece of legislation. >> why not push for budget reconciliation process repeal 85% of obamacare through that. >> that ill could be on the floor. could be on the floor as elly as this week. if not it will be on the floor next week. >> you're going to do it? >> we're going to

he's conducted himself in a pretty low key way, that may be the only way to assume the speakership. lou: does he have another tone? >> maybe it's going to require other leadership changes too, it can't rest on on one person is my view. lou: and mitch mcconnell, do you think he'll awaken to the responsibilities thrust upon him? >> i think he's got to, we need to get ready for the election. i'm an optimist, lou. lou: and a clear-eyed one, usually. ambassador, good to have you. >> thank you. lou: a severe thunderstorm watch in effect for much of the southwest tonight. heavy rains falling, winds, flash flooding set to sweep through new mexico, texas and arizona. the valley already hit, that's a reference to the phoenix area hit with storms this weekend that left 27,000 people in arizona without power. worn woman trapped in her car rescued when firefighters waded through knee-high waters as you see there. they successfully pulled her, rescued her from the vehicle. >>> up next, presidential candidate rick santorum joins me to talk about his campaign strategy and what he sees ahead, and le

who does that leave to fill the speakership? >> you've got people like representative chaffetz. you've got people like representative webster. i think that the other two people to watch are trey gowdy and jeb hensarling the latter being a rising tea party star from texas. he is also the chairman of the house financial services committee. but dara, i got to be honest, lots of pressure on representative paul ryan this morning, despite him being adamant that he doesn't want the job. but -- so watch obviously paul ryan, too. >> but if he said he doesn't want the job, what is it going to take to get him back into the race and possibly, you know, take the leadership? >> lots of conversations happening last night. and meetings scheduled for later this morning with the republican conference. where all of this is expected to be hammered out. he's got to remember that yes the politics of this are fascinating. but on november 5th, our country hits the nation's debt limit so they've got to raise the debt limit otherwise it's going to send shockwaves around the global economy. right after th

declaring the speakership vacant. paul ryan says no, we can't have that sword hanging over top of us. one member indicated maybe we could still have that provision. it's very old. it goes back to thomas jefferson and jefferson's manual. which they still use to run the house of representatives these days. could they modify it and keep it and would that be amenable to a possible speaker, paul ryan? >> you know, ted, a lot of this is reminding me, maybe i'm showing my age here, i know you're a political historian. when ronald reagan, there was the dalliance of putting ford on the ticket. and ford's people almost wanted a co-president and reagan said the heck with it, and went to george bush senior and the rest is history. do you think paul ryan is trying to ask too much here? that there are certain requirements of the speaker, that you do have to work weekends, do you have to go on the road, that you're reinventing this job, that is after all, a job that requires a certain amount of all this stuff? and he's going to push

he laid out a very clear vision of how he would run the speakership. i thought our members responded well to it. he's very bright, he works hard and has a good relationship with all the wings of the party. mark: his message to his colleagues is simple. love me or leave me. he wants to be impressed as the sonsensus candidate by week' and. testimony from one of hillary clinton's top aides about the deadly attack in benghazi is not helping. democrats investigating the 2012 attack are releasing a full transcript of the meeting with cheryl mills. mrs. clinton will testify tomorrow. carl icahn is putting $150 million into a new super pac. he's planning to push for legislation to discourage texan versions. -- tax inversions. he voiced his support for donald last month. ofis rock is the next host the oscars. his second term as host, the first coming back in 2005. the academy awards show will air on february 28 on abc. that's a look at our first word is. you can find the latest news on bloomberg.com. david: coming up in the next 20 minutes, ferreri makes its ne

it is a mistake to think it is all or nothing with regard to the speakership. if he makes a strong showing or bargains for a way to stop short of forcing a destructive fight, jason chaffetz could come out very well placed. >> part of the reason he has a shot at the speakership if not one of the other leadership positions is because of some comments made by now house majority leader, kevin mccarthy, as it relates to hillary clinton and benghazi, the committee. let's listen and we'll talk about his run for the speakership. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping? why? because she is untrustable. no one would have known any of that had happened had we not put that together. >> i give you credit for that. >> many house republicans are live individual because it gives democrats some ammunition to call this whole thing political. was this a fatal mistake? >> well, look, first of all, people are right to be live individual, whether

ryan has called the speakership a job for empty nesters. family versus duty. can they be reconciled? >> he likes to go back home on the weekends to wisconsin to spend time with those kids. so there is that element of it. he's also trying to think about whether or not this is a job he really wants. >> ryan, of course, will have to corral various conservatives of the freedom caucus. they helped dump john boehner and kevin mccarthy from the top spot. last year ryan told the associated press this about why he refuses to move up. quote, one of the reasons why i've always passed elected leadership positions up in the house, you know, speaker, leader, all the things people ask you to run for, is because it takes away from your family even more. i've made career decisions based on family balance and part of that is because of my own upbringing and my own childhood. >>yan knowing him a little bit cares about this country and whether or not he does this, he'll do what is right for his family and what is right for the country. >> when he was 15 years old, ryan found his

paul ryan will have easiest speakership ever. no, i think he is trying to, this budget resolution is expected to pass but he is talked about overand over again wanting to start with a clean slate because frankly the republican caucus hasn't shown they can really come to an agreement on spending. we've been in sort of this cycle that is really rough on the economy since 2011. so paul ryan is hoping to break that and one of the things he has going for him that other speakers in the past haven't, he was a chairman of the budget committee. he is known as the republican numbers guy. he has been for a long time. so that is definitely in his favor. he speak this is language, which is -- neil: how is he speaking it? is he saying i won't get tough on any of this stuff now but get tough next two years? i mean, i don't know. >> what is benefit getting into the same fight john boehner has gotten into for the last several years and has had -- neil: don't worry about anyone getting in a fight. they are not -- >> what i'm saying is, in terms of

. >>> we want to turn now it a closer look at paul ryan's road to the speakership. could it be a little bumpier than we thought. eric shawn on that angle. >> good morning, everyone. paul ryan may be a shoo-in, but there are a few holdouts. even though he does have the speakership in the bag, it does come with some reluctance from some. >> mr. speaker! the president of the united states! >> they shoved out john boehner and pushed kevin mccarthy aside. even without the full unanimous backing of the house freedom caucus, paul ryan is on the verge of this new job with some, albeit minor dissension. congressman meadows just indicated, florida congressman dan webster, who the freedom caucus first endorsed, vows to stay in the race. >> i am surely interested in being speaker because i'm fighting against the way the process is. i want to see everything based on principle. >> it turns out that ryan's reservations and deliberations did not endear him to all. representative matt salmon of arizona, the co-chair said, quote, it is like interviewing a ma maid for a job and she sa