bush. one discussion from the gathering featured authors and academics discussing president bush's ideology and the role of vice president dick cheney in shaping the white house agenda. >> thank you for joining us for the closing plenary forum on the legacy of george w. bush. it seems hard to believe five years ago when we set the date for the conference and two years of intensive planning with the faculty program committee, with our conference staff, the wonderful culture center, university relations, and everyone at the university and working with all of you that we're coming to closure. i don't think we will reach closure on a legacy decision, but i think that's to be discussed today. but we have certainly, i think, been informed and enlightened by the conversations and the debates at this conference. for me, i have spoken with several people this morning and in attending the plenary previously on what lessons we have learned from this conference, that came out in the conversation. for m

bush. >> he did something pretty remarkable when he was a young man after coming back from war. and graduated from yale. he packed up and went to west texas, which is about as far from civilization as you can get if you're a greenwich, connecticut, raised new york city-bound young professional. >> bush was just 24 years old. your dad is a yankee aristocrat to his core. >> correct. you have to ask the question, what caused him to leave his roots and a family he adored to move out to west texas? and it was his sense of adventure. he's an adventuresome person. but dad could relate to all people in all walks of life. he didn't wear a cowboy hat or big cow bye boots, but nevertheless he make a bart of the midland scene. >> in 1953 tragic, his 3-year-old daughter robin was diagnosed with leukemia. she died just three months later. >> it was devastating. one of the defining tragedies of their lives. >> the pull itser prize historian jon meacham was given unprecedented access to the bush family arc

bush. ms. swain: these were very young people, and they got married very young. can you talk about what you know about the attraction, early courtship that led to this young marriage? mr. engel: they, by both accounts, according to both of them, were attracted from the start. they developed a real -- because of the distance, a real intimate correspondence, which was typical for the times, especially a correspondence that continues as george bush decides to join the navy and pushes forward and actually becomes the youngest aviator in the pacific theater for the united states navy. and their correspondence throughout that entire period is emotional, it's intimate, it's something that drew them both together when they couldn't be together in the same spot. and then the times when they were together were electric for them. they really knew from the very start that they were for each other. ms. swain: she began school at smith college. ms. gutin: yes, she did. and she was there for a year, and she a

bush. for the next 90 minutes, to tell us more about her life and influence are two guests. the barbara bush biographer, part of the series we have turned to so often. she is a first ladies scholar. jeffrey engel is the founding director of the center for presidential history at southern methodist university. he is the author of one book on george bush's foreign-policy. we heard barbara bush talk about the fact that when she became first lady, her words were much more attention getting. that trend continues. we will see clips of an interview that she gave to us in october. one of them has been bouncing all around the news networks for several days because she talked about presidential dynasties, political dynasties, and the potential for jeb bush's presidential aspirations. barbara bush -- she had a reputation for a good quote and candid comments. >> she was always very aware of her public persona and i think she was always concerned about whether it would have political consequences for he

bush said. i don't like what he did and i think it hurt the president having his iron-ass view of everything. i've never been that close to him anyway. there is a lack of humility, a lack of seeing what the other guy takes. he's more kick ass, take names, take numbers. i think he paid a price for that. he added rumsfeld was an arrogant fellow, self-assured, swagger. but bush didn't let his son off the hook saying it ultimately rested on w's shoulders calling chen a good man who pushed boundaries too far. i think they overdid that but it is not cheney's fault. it's the president's fault. by that, he meant his son. the buck stopped there, according to the elder bush. today republican presidential candidate jeb bush who arguably has the most to lose or gain from these comments had this to say about his father. >> my brother's a great boy. his administration was shaped by his thinking, his reaction to the attack on 9/11. i think my dad, like a lot of people that love george, want to try to create a

>> well, i endorsed jeb bush today. >> oh, jeb bush? any reason why or -- >> well, i have -- i think he's the most qualified. and we need somebody with experience. >> senator dole endorsed you, what do you think of that? >> he's a great american, a great patriot. i'm a huge bob dole fan. >> jeb bush, the second of george h.w. bush's sons to run for president, he had a not-particularly remarkable debate night last night, but he is still in the race. there's no sign he's getting out. in many ways, honestly, he still is the establishment choice for the republican presidential nomination this year. and today jeb bush got maybe the ultimate establishment endorsement from somebody outside his own family, when he got this endorsement from bob dole, even if he did have to dig a really, really, really, really deep pit in which to bury the old family hatchet, in order to be able to accept that endorsement. but for jeb bush, and also for john kasich, i think, there is an interesting gulf between how they are seen in mainstream political analysis,

bush. go facebook.com/kellyfiles and tell us what you think about the show. that's it for tonight. >>> they called him poppy. george herbert walker bush, 41st president of the united states. a new england aristocrat, who became a politician in the texas oil patch. he owned perhaps the most impressive resume of any man ever to win the white house. he relished the rough and tumble of politics, but steadfastly maintained a public identity of dignified restraint, even in defeat. tonight, for the first time, you will hear the private thoughts of the 41st president in his own voice, part of an audio diary he kept throw his presidency. it's a george h.w. bush who felt things more deeply than he ever let on. >> i would like to hear what you said the night he's speaking into his tape recorder. your mother asleep in the next room. and these are his reflections. >> your thoughts? >> oh, wow. i never really understood how much the defeat stung him, because he kept it hidden. he bottled up this sense of

my issuejeb bush say is better. >> i will not define find it for bush but i think other candidates will do that. you have to stick to the issues or you will end up in a personal fight and that is not what anybody wants. john: marco rubio says he is against abortion even in cases of rape. a lot of people think that is a difficult position to hold. is it ok for republicans to prosecute that issue? >> i think you are right at that position is damaging. to take on a candidate in a primary for being too pro-life is a strategy that is not likely to work. mark: who will the nominee be? >> i still think bush will be the nominee. i thought bush would be running away with it by now, i am surprised. but i think he is the best qualified candidate. everybody in the party says, i will support whoever the nominee is. if donald trump is the nominee, will people like you say that is too far? >> i think we saw in the debate the other night some real fissures in the republican party unfolding. somebody like donald trump who says he wants to deport 11 million people, wants to start a trade war with mexico

bush. >> he did something pretty remarkable when he was a young man after coming back from war and graduated from yale. he packed up a red studebaker and went to west texas which is about as far from civilization if you can get if you with a greenwich, connecticut, raise -- >> your dad is a yankee aristocrat to his core. >> you got to ask what caused him to leave his roots and a family he adored to move out to west texas? it was his sense of adventure. he is an adventuresome person. but dad can relate to people from all walks of life. he never wore a big cowboy hat and cowboy boots but nevertheless became a part of the midland scene. >> in 1953, tragedy. his 3-year-old daughter robin was diagnosed with lieu keeukel. she died just seven months later. >> it was devastating. one of the defining tragedies of their lives. >> the pulitzer prize winning historian jon meacham was given unprecedented access to the bush family ar rivz. >> he wrote a letter in the late 1950s to his mother about robin.

bush. >> he did something pretty remarkable when he was a young man after coming back from war and graduated from yale. he packed up in a red studebaker and went to west texas, which is about as far from civilization as you can get if you're a greenwich connecticut raised new york city bound young professional. >> bush was just 24 years old. >> your dad is a yankee aristocrat, to his core. >> correct. you've got to ask the question, what caused him to leave his roots and a family he adores to move out to west texas. and it was a sense of adventure. he's an adventuresome person. but dad can relate to people from all walks of life. and he doesn't act texan. he never wore a cowboy hat and a big belt buckle and big cowboy boots but nevertheless, became a part of the midland scene. >> in 1953 tragedy. his 3-year-old daughter robin was diagnosed with leukemia. she died just three months later. >> it was devastating. one of the defining tragedies of their lives. >> the pulitzer prize winning histo

bush: -- mark: remove him? gov. bush: we should create a no-fly zone. mark: that is not going to get him out of office. gov. bush: it could, but if we are serious about building a force trained by the u.s. the third option. it used to be called the syrian free army. supported the you removal of saddam hussein by force -- this is a guy that used weapons of mass attraction against his own people, a threat to israel and the region. gov. bush: i think assad can be removed diplomatically when he has no other options. that requires american leadership and a presence that would create a third force between isis and assad. that is what has been lacking. that is what the president promised and backed away from. mark: up next, what jeb bush told us about marco rubio and ted cruz and their foreign policy credentials, right after this. ♪ the only way to get better is to challenge yourself, and that's what we're doing at xfinity. we are challenging ourselves to improve every aspect of your experience. and this includes our commitment to being on time. every time.

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bush. among the material he drew from was a trove of the president's audio diary. >> i remember thinking 17 years ago that george bush was a much more complicated and interesting figure than most people might think. >> i w i was looking at this about his story and his times and remarkable life. i really believe that he was the last of the time. >> the same year bush lost his daughter, he co-founded to oil company. >> in texas he finds the most adventure out element of that business and becomes an offshore oil man. >> now the father of four boys and the young girl he longed for since robin's tragic death wanted to serve his country in the political arena. his father had become a u.s. senator from connecticut and now george, in 1964, ran for that same office in texas. >> george bush, the happy family man is now george bush republican candidate for the united states senate. >> he lost his senate race. not one to give up, he ran for the house of representatives in 1966 and won. >> one of the ex

bush. [inaudible conversations] a >> i am here to use moderateion this discussion with governor sununu.w hampshirom the governor of new hampshire 83 to 89 with the white house chief of staff the father of eight childrench that wouldildren explain a coupe among his children who is curve a a candidate fornto governor and he was alsoan of ea chairman of the newblican hampshire public authority 2009 through 2011. i must confess i am a little biased because john sununuindis wrote the book "the quiet man" the indispensable presidency of george h.w. bush". flora -- from those of usf from texas, a 41 coming it is one of the most revered. briefly a was a hero. he was the youngest pilot in the united states navy in the second world war shot down. he went there after two yale where he was actually born while he was at yale. 41 was a phi beta kappa and all-american baseball player, captain of the baseball team. he his entire life was a huge success in private business and has a service to the united st

bush. bush 43. about a wide-ranging interview about his father's time as president. this new 800-plus-page book, it comes out this week. john meacham, of course, will be on "new day" tomorrow morning speaking more about it. i do want to speak, again, with david gergen, former presidential adviser to four presidents including the 41st president and m.j. lee who's with me as well, cnn politics reporter. david gergen, to you. wow. we're going to hash through all of this. just your reaction to the last half an hour of what we heard. >> well, it was very moving especially toward the end, and i think it did address very directly and contradict the legend that 41 never talked to 43 and 43 really didn't like going into iraq. it was very clear they did talk. that the father did give his blessing and was devoted to his son in that way. i think it's also very striking as you hear this, this conversation. you know, george w. bush wrote a memoir, a book about his father published last year called "41" a

bush. for those of us from texas of course, 41 as we call him is one of the most revered of all texans. briefly, he was a hero. he was the youngest pilot in the united states navy in the second world war shot down. he went there after two yale where he was actually born while he was at yale. 41 was a phi beta kappa and all-american baseball player, captain of the baseball team. he his entire life was a huge success in private business and has a service to the united states is almost without. but this book is about george h. w. bush the person, and how that person most characteristics and personality contributed to a wide variety of accomplishments. so please join me in joining -- join me in welcoming governor sununu. ' >> thank you very much. [applause] >> this is a touching book about sort of the inside story and a description of many events which contributed to the presidency of george h. w. bush. but because of his unique personality are not necessarily known by the public. why don't you

because, they were prepared for bush. they were looking at bush. they really weren't -- >> they thought that's a race they can win. >> yeah, totally. and they do still think they can win against marco rubio, but they're worried, because that is a contrast between hillary clinton who's been in politics forever, for all intents and purposes, or marco rubio who's new to the scene and the fresh face. >> and when i look deep in these poll numbers, i think i'm picking up on this, plubio deep in the horse race, when you look at questions about likability and electability, it seems like republicans are starting to thinking ahead and saying, our best bet next to hillary clinton might be this guy. >> well, and i think if you look at sort of how he's performed in the debates and we'll be looking for this tonight, of course, he's definitely more relaxed. he's interested in sort of taking these attacks and then being sort of the polite response. you know, that moment that jeb bush and marco rubio have in the last republican debate, i think, was very representat

bush. these are very personal experiences with drug addiction. how does that resonate with voters? >> i think it resonates very well. it shows that jeb bush is a father and he is somebody who has had struggles in his life. he has had struggles with his daughter. i think that is very important for him to be a normal human being because most americans look at him as a member of the bush family and this elite family. they don't know him as much as a person, a dad, as somebody who cares about his daughter. i think it is helpful in the sense that it humanizes him. >> a really good point about humanizing him. it reminds me of mitt romney a bit. first his opponent basically brands him early on and then he has to come out of that. then we hear about these wonderful stories about mitt romney at the end that no one heard about. i'm surprised he chose not to introduce his family even with his daughter and his wife and their stories which would have made him very human at the very beginning and would h

bush. john was granted exclusive access to bush 41, diaries command he delivered an unprecedented and comprehensive portrayal of a great man who has long held a special place in our history and in our hearts. please join me in welcoming to the stage. [applause] >> thank you all. they already love you and have not even read the book. >> this is perfect. it is all downhill. >> welcome to dallas. >> thank you for coming. thank you very much. i welcome john's wife, sam, mary, maggie. thank you for being here with us. we are thrilled you are here. so i knowi know the subject of your book quite well. >> you've met him, yeah. >> and i read your book. >> you have? >> much to the amazement of some of our fellow citizens. and i really like your book and hope everyone here reads it. it is the 1st serious biography of my dad. before we talk about the book, i think people might be interested in your background, where you are raised, college. >> guest: i grew up on chattanooga tennessee civil war battlef

bush. >>> plus, the new speaker of the house paul ryan. he's got political capital. how will he use it? >> we've been bold on taxes but timid on policies and ideas. >>> and changing course, first in afghanistan, now in syria. why president obama decided to send special ops forces into the syrian civil war. are we looking at mission creep? >>> joining me for insight and analysis this sunday morning are matt bai of yahoo! news, helene cooper of the "new york times," an gearann of the "new york times" and david brooks. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> good sunday morning. choose your metaphor. on life support, in critical condition, on its deathbed. whatever painful phrase you use, everyone agrees jeb bush's campaign is in trouble. bush needed a good debate performance on wednesday and he failed spectacularly. he's rebranding his campaign with a new slogan called "jeb can fix it." the phrase can suppose to mean that bush can fix the country's problems but people are already joking th

george bush was the vice president. he watched as reagan did the most important thing for those years. it was the military strength. he rebuilt the army and navy and marines. and the soviet union was watching. and gorbachev who came into power in the soviet union in the middle 80s began to understand that the soviets really could not catch up. and gorbachev came to the conclusion that he ought to try to figure out how to bring the soviet union into this family of nations so that there could be economic prosperity and the soviet union. ronald reagan built up the defense structure and realized they were developing a unique opportunity to change the conflict between the superpowers and they understood that in order to do that, he was going to have to do two things in particular. one, he was going to have to bring our allies together in the agenda and he was going to use nato as a vehicle into the most important allies of the structure were margaret thatcher, transform and own own it cool with germany. and then he understoo

over in new hampshire, the state in which the bush campaign is spending the most money, jeb bush is in sixth place according to a new monmouth university poll. bush's florida rival marco rubio has tripped his support in the state since last week's debate. trump still leads the pack in new hampshire with 26%. carson has 16%. rubio at 13%. kasich at 11%. cruz at 9%. and jeb bush is at 7%, which is exactly the same amount of support he received the last time this poll was taken september 10th through the 13th. joining us now is katie parker, former deputy campaign manager of romney 2012. mark caputo, senior writer for politico who covers florida politics. jonathan, i want to start with you. there's a choice quote where in alex carp says, jeb bush's campaign has been a study in incompetence that has mainly dramatized the candidate's sense of entitlement. your thoughts, can jeb bush fix this? >> i don't think he can fix this. if this is his campaign, i don't think he offers anything to anyone in the party that they really can't get from somebody else in a more attractive package. marco rubi

did you understand when you heard the first george bush, the first president bush when he laid out -- i assumed the fact he was disappointed in fact angered by what happened under his son's leadership? >> i did realize what the first 72 hours were going to look like. and now we're a little bit beyond that. it was very striking. these were conversations that began in october of 2008. he repeat the point in several different sessions over the next few years. he was very critical as you noted of cheney. this was one man who had one view of the vice presidency and dick cheney had another view of the vice presidency. he also i thought to his credit, he said that the president was ultimately responsible. he held his son to account for this hawkish tone that he thought actually misrepresented what his son truly believed. >> what do you mean he misrepresented? what did he think his son was up to when he went into iraq? >> the context of these remarks was about -- more about the second term than the first term. and my own sense is that while president bush 41 had anxieties about the first -- s

he never complained to anyone else, including this is bush bush the burdens -- misses about the burdens of the presidency. no one wants to get the president of the united states say o woe is me. the one person he could complain, himself. charlie: there was that one moment, which was a revelation for me, anyone who knows anything about politics in which he becomes a bit despondent. after the war had been one. this is the first gulf war. what is interesting, this is not speculation. this is from the words of the man himself. jon: our friend, evan thomas many of us have to speculate what was going through their minds. here we know. charlie: he tells us. jon: he never celebrated the victory in the gulf. he was way ahead of the pundits. he knew that artificial 89% approval rating would not last. he knew the economy would be the essential thing. he wished there had been a battleship missouri surrender. he did not like that saddam was in power. charlie: that was his decision. coalition --ation he put together with a lifetime of experience with telephone calls. halfother called him halve bush.

when can jeb bush say my issue is better? >> i will not define find it for bush but i think other candidates will do that. i think that you have to stick to the issues or you will end up in a personal fight and that is , not what anybody wants. john: marco rubio says he is against abortion even in cases of rape, incensed, life of the mother. a lot of people think that is a difficult position to hold. is it ok for republicans to prosecute that issue? >> i think you are right at that -- that that position is damaging in an election. to take on a candidate in a primary for being too pro-life is a strategy that is not likely to work. mark: who will the nominee be? >> i still think bush will be the nominee. i would be dishonest if i said that i was shocked by the way the campaign has developed. i thought bush would be running away with it by now, i am surprised. i think he is the best qualified candidate. mark: everybody in the party says, i will support whoever the nominee is. they are all better than hillary clinton. if donald t

bush, but i don't want a third one. that is one too many bush. it plays into the dynastic thing, which hurts him even if they are individually popular. mark: he is not going to change his name between now and then. john: i know. mark: embracing this and trying to use this is the only thing he can do in his comeback. there is no reason to talk about jeb bush unless in the context of, can he come back? i still believe that the way he behaved this week, he is performing well enough to come back now, without a doubt. john: but you think -- there were various moments in the last couple days were people have noted in the press that it has been like a therapy session. do you think that tom na li the way he's talking about his father like from the couch, does , that work? is that effective? mark: it's not flawless, but it could be worse. john: fair enough. when we come back, we ask former bush adviser mark mckinnon for his thoughts on the bush 41 biography we just talked about, after these words. ♪ ♪ john: we are back, talking more about the book abo

bush has created controversy. in "destiny of power", the senior bush takes shots at top aide in the administration of his son. this as jeb is asked for the campaign trail. >> we have seen the bush boys disagree with their mother publicly once or twice before. this is a rare disagreement with their father. he was reluctant to say anything negative when his son was in the white house not as reluctant any more. >> reporter: at age 91, the 41st president is getting a few things off his chest. donald rumsfeld, his son's secretary of defense is an arrogant fellow with a lack of humility. dick cheney, is an iron ass who just became very hard line and very different from the dick cheney i knew and worked with. >> i have had much worse said about me. >> cheney seemed amused. rumsfeld said in a statement, bush 41 is getting up in years and misjudges bush 43 who i found made his own decisions. >> george would say, this is, this was under my watch. i was commander-in-chief. >> reporter: jeb bush weighed in from new hampshire

bush: i am very proud -- crowd: bush! bush! bush! bush! mr. george h. w. bush: i am very proud that we have stood up for freedom in the last few years, and how well i remember the at granada, and the slogan, "getting keys, don't go home!" i will never forget it -- "y ankees, don't go home!" and i will never forget it. [applause] we havege h. w. bush: seen what cuba has become, a menace to our people and our neighbors around the world, and we have learned the lessons of history. we must never allow nicaragua to become a second cuba, and what nicaragua is what we seek for all countries, peacefulness and democracy. the contrast in that there was a proposal of power for the administration of our president several years ago. bring in the negotiations to washington is not the answer. let the leaders do the negotiating with the contras and contras in- the nicaragua, not the speakers and the congressman in washington. [applause] ,r. george h. w. bush: frankly i hope these talks duly to something. we want to negotiate a settlement. the resistance is a sham, and ill

about jeb bush. anna is relieved he showed up but did he do it enough? there were times it seemed like he was quibbling about not having enough time on the last debate. did he seem strong enough? >> i thought he showed up and was able to answer substantive questions. but i don't think he engaged in the way that perhaps his supporters might have liked. >> he seemed shaky. >> a little uncertain. the stakes are immense in this debate. everybody said you blew the last debate. if you're going to stay in this race you have to do well in this debate. even presidential candidates get nervous, i think. i think his nerves showed. >> i think in each debate he tends to it be better as the debate goes on. he gets a little bit more comfortable. you saw in this debate he wanted to go after kasich in that first answer and cut him off and kasich ran right over him. but i thought he did get stronger as the debate goes on. and that's the argument for his candidacy he is going to get better as he goes along. >> is it po

bush's allies' line of attack. this is something we saw the last debate when jeb bush and his team televised the fact they were going to come after marco rubio on senate votes. that allowed the rubio team to prepare for that and to be able to have an attack line ready if that moment or that opportunity came up. so i wouldn't be surprised to see something potentially similar tonight. >> why are we getting the word ahead of time of every punch that bush is about to throw at rubio. is that a mole somewhere in the bush campaign? is it stupid p.r.? you're supposed to surprise people, to dry gulch them. you're not supposed to say, guess what i'm going to do to you tomorrow night? >> i think there's a strategy you're seeing among some campaigns that they're not revealing that line of attack. like, you're not hearing what they're going to come out with in the debates, but what they're going to do moving forward. it seems to be something some campaigns are doing and others aren't. >> yeah, well, thanks so much, halley jacks

what is your sense of where the bush is >> i've called around bush's allies. they say remember he's a bush, he has presidential politics in his blood. this idea that he's going to quit that doesn't ring true. but bush has a difficult proposition ahead of him. how does he win new hampshire. it's crowded in the granite state you have senator rubio, senator cruz, governor kasich, governor christie. if you want to be a center-right candidate who is going to get a bounce out of new hampshire. that's what bush wants, the field is crowded. >> i want to look at fox poll 11, honest and trustworthy. it has all of the candidates, democrat and republican and how they stack up. leading in honest and tru trustworthy. ben carson. you can see all the other candidates, sanders is second in the plus column and there you see clinton in the bottom in the honest and trustworthy. right behind donald trump. what do you think of that poll? >> well, this affirms what was found in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll out earlier this week. clinton's numbers, even after her benghazi testi

between the bush 41 team and bush 43 team in real time. this is not monday morning quarterbacking. talk about the split and divide and real time and the months leading up to the war. >> it's a distinction about how you react to a different environment, right. president bush, 41 was dealing with more of a classic balance of power struggle in 1990, 91. one country invaded another country and threw off the balance of power in the middle east. one of the most moving moments in the diary as president bush is saying this will not stand. he's dictating, you could hear the blades in the background and he said if we don't stop him from going into saudi arabia we could have another world war. 2002 is a different thing. bush believes they have a force to change the region. it's a generational and philosophical difference because the times are different. >> first, this book comes out while another bush is running for president. let's bring in casey hunt live in new hampshire. tell us what jeb bush had to say to you about the new book. >> yes, we know

reagan grew to like bush. mrs. reagan never signed on to the bushes. she did not like the fact that bush had run in the primaries. george bush would put on jogging shorts and run through snow drifts to get pictures taken to show off that he was 55 years old and ronald reagan was 69. there was an implication that reagan was too old. bush played to that. it is wildly unfair. you cannot imagine a more loyal set of people. charlie: this last question is in the news today, is this notion of what was the relationship between father and son? beyond the criticism of cheney and rumsfeld during the iraq war. jon: i think there was one substantive conversation that we know of at camp david in 2002. george w. bush walked his father through the diplomacy, inspections, everything. the former president said, if the man will not comply, you have to do what you have to do. when the operation was launched in march of 2003, there was an exchange of letters between the men. the letter from father to son is incredibly warm. ratifying the course. it says you are now facing

bush and michael dukakis. then thomas tutor on the history of arlington national cemetery, the role and creation of the tomb guard and stories about some of the notable people who are buried at the cemetery. and sunday at 4:00 on real america, the special report by moral safer. american history tv, all weekend and on holidays too, only on c-span 3. >>> now

bush and michael dukakis. then thomas tutor on the history of arlington national cemetery, the role and creation of the tomb guard and stories about some of the notable people who are buried at the cemetery. and sunday at 4:00 on real america, the special report by moral lee safer. american history tv, all weekend and on holidays too, only on c-span 3. >>> now we're hearing about online sex trafficking and backpage.com. the ceo of back page.com was asked to testify, but he declined. witnesses who did appear before the senate committee on investigations included washington state's deputy attorney general and a lawyer with the national center for missing and exploited children. >>> okay, thank you all f

senator bush. and in 1965 when he lost the 1954 race at the southern district of houston is coming into being, he has a fellow named ross baker who is thinking about challenging in the primaries. >> no relation to jim. >> no relation to jim, or ross. none of that. he goes to him, and baker says to them,oh, i want to be a congressman. i think you're just using this as a stepping stone to the senator and george h. w. bush is no, i'm not using this as a stepping stone to the senate. i want to be president. this is 1965. he is 41. the as yet to win the race except to be the harris county chairman but he had a sense of destiny, a word he didn't particularly like but it was a sense that he was meant to do great things. and what's so striking to me is finding all these examples. your other grandfather, marvin pierce, wrote a letter to a friend who said it wouldn't surprise me at all if his son-in-law becomes president. so people were talking about his, the possibility of a pathway to the presidency as a p

bush 41 had given them to you. true? >> i think there is an element of truth to that. >> rose: what is the element that is not true? [laughter.] >> i believe my firsthand knowledge is that the diaries had been given to me for the use of this biography and an ultimate scholarly edition of all the diaries and that had been our agreement for a number of years, and george bush, george herbert walker bush stood by that agreement. >> rose: so he said to his son, i am sorry, i have given my diaries to jon meacham. >> charlie as you know i am a boy from chattanooga, i don't know, i doubt that conversation ever took place. i think it was -- but the story i understand to be true is that 43 was not happy about this. >> his rhetoric could get pretty hot. [laughter.]. >> rose: like a bush -- >> i don't know, i don't have firsthand knowledge. >> rose: but i assume it is true, don't you? don't you assume it is true? >> i suspect -- >> rose: he wanted to write about his father, it was his father, he wanted to say how much he loved

so where does jeb bush fall? remarkably by next year's election it will have been 14 years since jeb bush faced voters. his 2002 reelection in florida and perhaps that's the problem. the ground may have shifted beneath bush or, more specifically, it may have lurched to the right. something he isn't prepared for. in fact, the only recent other candidate we can find who wait it had same amount of time as jeb bush was connally, 14 years after being reelected as a democrat. he outraised everyone in the republican primary and famously won just one delegate. the only other candidate we could find that waited a decade between runs for office was jeb's four, george h.w. bush. he waited ten years and lost the nomination to ronald reagan. nomination to ronald reagan. >>> coming up, my in why should over two hundred years of citi history matter to you? well, because it tells us something powerful about progress: that whether times are good or bad, people and their ideas will continue to move the world forward. as long as th

bush. ♪ welcome, everybody. my name is jim herman and i am here to moderate this discussion with the governor. governor john sununu was the governor of new hampshire from 1983 to 1989 and served as white house chief of staff chief of staff from 1989 until 1991. he's the father of eight children which would explain a couple of those wrinkles. [laughter] but among his children is christopher sununu come into john sununu has a former united states senator. governor sununu was also the chairman of the new hampshire republican party from 2009 to 2011. i must confess to a little biased because governor sununu has written a book called the quiet man, the indispensable presidency of george h. w. bush. for those of us from texas of course, 41 as we call him is one of the most revered of all texans. briefly, he was a hero. he was the youngest pilot in the united states navy in the second world war shot down. he went there after two yale where he was actually born while he was at yale. 41 was a phi

bush worked for years. he worked for two solid years when he was vice president in advance of his presidential campaign, he worked with two media gurus with two republican experts in the art of how to appear on television. and one of those gurus was a man named roger ailes who went on from being a republican operative and a media consultant to becoming the creator and head of the fox news channel in the 1980s, george h.w. bush had his only manner of speaking and campaigning and appearing on television overhauled by roger ailes who is now the president of fox news. but alongside roger ailes, he worked with a man named jon kraushar. and today in 2015, roger ailes is obviously still very busy running the fox news channel. but jon kraushar is still around too and jon kraushar today is also back in the news because jon kraushar reportedly today all these years later just got himself a new client in the bush family. according to a report today in new york magazine, the jeb bush for president campaign has just hir