it also hurt iraq a great deal. so it wasn't just a one-way bet against isis. >> you race the issue you of isil's payroll that includes the families of members who have been killed. you write that if enough members are captured and killed these costs start to add up. tell me how that work in to a targeted valencia strategy of competing isil. >> sure. that's side benefit to a targeted strategy. what we did find both in we were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then aisles, is that they basically had a promise, they have a payroll and they continued to pa pay families. payroll was based on family size, they continued to pay families if their personal was captured or killed. when u.s. operations became very large they eager stopped paying and that would hurt morale, they are breaking their promises to their members' families and it also hurt their operations when they were running low on money, we found a statistical relationship between the amount of money that they sent to a specific area and the le

what we did find both when they were al qaeda in iraq and then islamic state of iraq and then when they were i.s.i.l. they basically have a promise. they have a payroll and they continue to pay family. payroll was based on family size. they continued to pay families if a person was detained or killed. what we saw was that their payroll costs were mounting throughout the 2000s when u.s. operations became very large. so they either stopped paying, that would hurt morale, they are breaking their promises to their members' families and it also hurt operations when they were running low on money. we found a statistical relationship between money they spent to a certain area and level of attacks in that area. so as we degrade their ability to raise money, we are also degrading their ability to conduct operations and hurting morale, which the members are finding their primaries are not good. >> the lower price of oil, the fact that ransom is a smaller part of things, the limits we are trying to put on money going in and out, and there are changes within the gulf states that make it a crime to

so should we on those grounds abandon action in iraq although we undertake it at the request of iraq's government and it does seem to be making a difference? should we take no further action against daesh who are themselves killing innocent people and striving to kill more every day of the week? or should we simply leave it to others? would we make ourselves a bigger target for daesh attack? we are a target. we will remain a target. no need to wonder about it. daesh has told us so and continues to tell us so with every day that passes. we may as well take them not just at their word, but indeed at their deeds. they have sought out our fellow countrymen and women to kill including aid workers and other innocents and whatever we decide today, there is no doubt that they will do so again. nor is the consequence of inaction simply daesh controlling more territory, more land. we've seen what happens where they take control. the treatment of groups such as the yazidis in all its horror should surely make us unwilling to contemplate any further extension of daesh-controlled territory. inactio

>> republicans have criticized president obama for not leaving troops in iraq. some have said if american forces had stayed, there would be no isis. but one believes that was never in the cards. iraq's prime minister al maliki, had a new set of patrons, his fellow shiites in tehran, and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with him, we'll give you a third term, but the conditions are, no american soldiers. that was what tehran had demanded. there was no way it would have gone through the parliament. >> one thing is clear, it was only iraq's army that could have stopped isis. instead the iraqi soldiers threw down their weapons and ran. [ phone ringing ] >> hello -- >> next on "blindsided." what drives these people, what makes them tick. you'll go inside the mind of a radical. meet a man who was prepared to die for a fantasy. the idea of an islamic caliphate. came out today thousands of people to run the race for retirement. so we asked them... are you completely prepared for retirement? okay, mostly prepared? could you save 1

that is what happened in iraq. is the threat posed by the terrorist threat posed by isis to the homeland by radicalizing young men and women who go online and read their propaganda in my even chat with them online. it is what might have happened here in this case in california. happens in canada and a couple of cases in western europe and australia over the last year. radicalization of young men and women to conduct attacks on behalf of isis without isis directing them. that remains at this moment the most likely isis terrorist threat to the homeland. is the direct isis threat to the homeland. paris, paris. where the plot is conceived of, roccazed and directed in and then carried out in paris or new york or washington. charlie rose: do they have the capability to do with it in paris elsewhere? mike: i don't see intelligence anymore but i say we don't know. the reason i say we don't know isiscause we do know that spend about 9-12 months building their attack capability in europe and we did not see it. and we do not

iraq's government has asked the u.n. security council to intervene and accused turkey of violating international law. turkey's president has refused to withdraw his soldiers. >> reporter: the dispute between the governments of iraq and turkey over the deployment of turkish troops into iraq seems to be spilling beyond political speeches. thousands of members of iraq's militias came out into the capital. they're calling on their government to do more to push out turkish troops from the north. one cleric said to settle the dispute to the battle field >> translation: today turkey is at our doors. they say they will end the invasion by military means. we want these people. if they don't do their duty, then we will take action after a while. >> reporter: iraq's government has filed a formal complaint with the u.n. the prime minister wants turkish forces withdrawn from northern iraq immediately. >> translation: sending turkey's armed forces without the permission of the iraqi government is not considered a help against terroris

troops in iraq, let me just remind you that we have more than 3500 in iraq right now, doing a spectacular job. by the way, they'll shortly be, most of them, celebrating their holidays there and not here. we all ought to keep that in our mind and take a moment to remember them over the holidays. obviously, the president is the commander in chief, so everyone deployed is subject to his approval. i write their deployment orders, i think very carefully about every single one. with respect to overall numbers, the president has indicated and shown a willingness to increase that number. most recently, as we've indicated in the last few weeks, as we develop opportunities to make good use of them. now, we obviously don't -- we try to deploy as few people as we can, simply in recognition of the fact that they're away from their families. but we have to do what we have to do to protect our country and to defeat isil. and the troops know that. and typically, in this season, we bless them for taking it on. >> thank you, everybody. >> thank you. michael, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> there is a

and there is tension between turkey and iraq. baghdad has given turkey two days to remove its troops from the northern area of mosul which is held by isil fighters. turkey says it will stop deploying troops to the area but won't remove those already there. imran kahn is in the northern iraqi city of you are bill and l is says iraq is suspicion us. >> reporter: there has been no official reaction to the spat between turkey and baghdad over the troops come across the border. we have heard there is a real fear of what is happening in iraq, the war against isil is becoming a proxy war that the edge knowledge powers are using iraq to fight against each other. we are hearing a lot of sunni fear about the eye ryne vinnie role here and that's been going for a long time and now hearing from certain shia m.p.s about this turkish role, one of the more extreme reactions coming out of the shia camp is we should bomb these troops, these turkish troops because they violated our sovereignty. and lots of people are very worried here about the rus

we should draw lessons with iraq. we are struggling to defeat daesh in iraq and that is with, estimates vary but certainly 800, 900,000 security forces on our payroll. i mean one strategy you could employ is actually finish the job in iraq before we actually start thinking about any long-term strategy in syria. but again, we're struggling. that is one of the fundamental differences between iraq and syria. as for the issue about taking, about sitting at the top table, can i just address this point centrally? this is the strong message when we were visiting the middle east. we're already at the top table. china is not intending it intervene. yet set sits at the top table as member p 5. we would do so also, and quite clearly we're showing solidarity with our partners. in conclusion, mr. speaker, the short-term effect of british airstrikes will be marginal. i think most people accept that. but as we intervene, more, we become more responsible for the events on the ground and lay ourselves open to the unintended consequenc

bush and dick cheney had not invade iraq or al gore had won, there was no iraq war, would there be -- >> host: all right, bill, we government the point. that's bill in connecticut. >> guest: that a really good question, and as a journalist i try to avoid putting political labels on it, but the book argues and i strongly believe that the iraq invasion was really the original sin. not just the invasion itself which gave the jihaddists this cause they'd been looking for, particular particularly star could we, and the sin of omake, not having security operates in place, dismanning the baathist party which anybody who was a professional inside iraq, in the early 2000s, that be a might of the baath party. dismantling the armed forces and you have overnight a country with a huge security vacuum and a very angry disenfranchised elite population that was happy to help an injunior coming in 'plenty of iraqis would have fought the americans but star car we is able to melt this religious extremism with this iraqi discontent and bringing the two together turned out to be a very powerful screw, and

looking at our vision for the future of iraq, what political outcomes iraq do you envision of what is your assessment the gentlemen and whether he is making necessary reforms and whether those will be and not? it is hard to find these folks. if they are not buying into what they need, politically, and they're not getting that, they will abandon that role. what is the political consequences that we need to happen iraq in order to maintain the forces and to gain more -- >> the political future that we are supporting iraq and that no one -- i believe that he supports, but it is difficult to accomplish is a multi-sectarian but decentralized iraqi state. in which the kurds and shia and sunni's can live together under one state and have a reasonable amount of self-governance, not by isil, but by people who can do a civilized job of governance . shia all living together under one state, reasonable decentralization and self-governance as appropriate, but under one state. that is a we are seeking. the alternative to that is a sectarian does integration of iraq. we know that looks like. we are

that's what we did in afghanistan, iraq, libya. has terrorism increased or decreased as a result of all of that? the prime minister said he was looking to build a consensus around the military action he wanted to take. i don't believe he has achieved anything of the kind. he has failed in my view, to make the case for another bombing campaign. all of our efforts are going to go into freeing the syrian civil war to an end. iraq, afghanistan, libya, i ask members to think very carefully about the previous decisions we have made. [shouting] what we are proposing to do that they descend british bombers -- >> point of order spent on a number of occasions of receiving complaints from the public, what do you think the public thinks when i write on both in the leader of the opposition is being shouted out constantly by the government benches? >> i think what the public wants is a civilized the robust debate by members on both sides of the house. i think the honorable gentleman, very experienced member for the point of order. let's proceed

in iraq and syria. welcome to al jazeera. also ahead. >>> don't bomb syria >>> thousands rally in london ahead of a parliamentary vote on whether to approval launching air strikes in syria. plus. >> reporter: i'm in baghdad as violence rises across iraq and the price of ill plum ets globely and an increasing number of iraqis are falling into extreme poverty >>> myanmar's road to democracy. the power is being discussed by aung san suu kyi with the out going prime minister. obama says the asmt s is stepping up the fight against i.s.i.l. more special forces will be sent to help fight the armed group in iraq and syria. the ground troop mission will be carried out besides continued diplomatic efforts. >> reporter: the united states is intensifying the war in iraq and syria in the hope that it will event eventual ly go towards peace. >>> we will assist sources to put more pressure on i.s.i.l. these operators will over time be able to conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture i.s.i.l. leaders. that creates a virt

and so i have confidence that we're working in iraq to move them out of iraq, and then we look at syria. and so we talk about 100 people in training. they have 20,000 on the isis side. how do we get to raka and when do we get to raka when we are training 100 people? where do the other people come from? >> the people that we are now not only training, in fact, not even principally training, but equipping and enabling are syrian arab forces that are work -- that are working with the kurdish ypg in the northern part of syria. they are prepared to advance. they already have as i indicated advanced south. we are enabling them, we're doing more to enable them. and as they do more, we will do yet more to enable them. >> do we have any -- >> and they're the right force to do it if i may say because they are syrian arabs. >> i was in saudi arabia and they said we want to put troops in to help. maybe they told you something different. maybe they didn't want to actually do it. they said they want to put in troops to help. king abdullah said they want to put in troops to help. so, you have other gr

. >> this was fallujah, iraq. the year was 2004. the atrocity aroused deep american anger and brought promises of retribution. >> we will hunt down the criminals, we will kill them or capture them. and we will pacify fallujah. >> and u.s. forces fought two long and bloody battles to retake the city. nearly 70 americans lost their lives liberating fallujah, and hundreds more were left seriously wounded. ten years later, fallujah falls back into the hands of an enemy. this time it's isis. just a few days after fallujah fell, the president talked about the threat from the terror group in an interview with "the new yorker" magazine. >> he said, "the analogy we use around here sometimes. and i think is accurate, is if a jv team puts on lakers uniforms, that doesn't make them kobe bryant." >> i was disappointed. i was disappointed that he said that. i don't think he was well served. >> the need for intelligence surveillance. >> lieutenant general michael flynn had a front-row seat to the rise of isis. he led the defense intelligence agenc

of iraq. this house and then gave without intervention. i think the reason a number of us oppose the motion about the airstrikes in iraq was very simply. we had into beaten isil despite nearly a million security forces on the government payroll and that brings us to syria because we have nothing near that and we still don't have that plan. it was absolutely necessary for the government and people of iraq. it is as if you are seeing the angel of death. how can i carry on on a dalia basis. we have to acknowledge they are at war with us. this isn't a tone of choice. in the defeat of isil and its ideology will be the work of many years of the decade. the mission was the civil war it was impossible to achieve that is the necessary first step into the agreement of the international support that can be seen to that transition. i do believe the government was able to offer to minister the caption from isil in syria to the satisfaction of the committee and in the wake of that ibb of the kind mr. made t

i have been in iraq. 18 visits to iraq over the to o years. there are iraqis that want to fight for their country, and they need support from their own government to do so and they n o from other countries to do so. i think your question, though, also involves the refugee population. of course we've seen in syria particularly just utter devastation through indiscriminate bombing that's led to the massive internal many displacement and external displacement. h we've alsoer eff had, i think, e syrians. we wanted them only to fight isil. so very few came forward in that train and equip program because, they want to get rid of assad.tw some of them are willing to fight both, but we had a litmus test that excluded people that said they were going to go and t fight 'assad.of i think you would have more people fighting if you were willing to say let's a concernew approach to this problem. >> france, britain, other middle east countries fighting in this area. how much of a muddle is this, or is it pretty clear cut? >> there are 65 countries in the coa

together it is not an iraq that is a friend of america but an iraq that is a friend of iran. let's look at the numbers there were less than 300 isis fighters in ramadi over 10,000 iraqi armies, with american air power if they 10,000 could not have gotten 300 --? tom: next step is mosul. ramadi is outside of baghdad, mosul is way up north. >> that different. tom: is this something? where iraqi solers will march up there now. >> iraqi soldiers. tom: we'll see, i think they have a hard enough time holding ramadi, militarily, i mean, the north of iraq is no longer iraq, it kurdistan. and kurds are willing to fight, they have been only ones willing to fight against isis throughout. they are so willing to fight they have women as brigades they know if they are captured they know what isis does to women, they have been willing to fight, we've never directly armed them we go through iraq, central government keeping a myth alive in iraq will rise from the ashes, and be a unified country, and a beacon of peace. and pro american activity, it is not going to happen. tom: we have 11 month

to expand it's use of special forces on the ground, in iraq. and potentially in syria. >> back home, 16 lebanese soldiers freed in the prisoner swap with syrias front rebels.

iraq, first. what is different in terms of our leverage the we can bring it to bear, especially in this time when we have a new leader in iraq. we cannot shake this relationship so we can see some of the things that you laid out in your original testimony come to fruition. i think we can concur a political transition is necessary. what vehicles are we going to use might we create so we can thatome compelling on score. issue is cutting off the ability to recruit and fundraiser for this enemy that is fraudulent. they say they advance the cause of muslims, but nothing could be further from the truth. means, whatways and is different in terms of this strategy? i will start, congressman and then maybe the chairman will want to add to it. first of all, thank you for your own service. to her next point about reconstituting our leverage and iraq, that is precisely the point i was making earlier. i think general mcfarlane is doing that. that is important insight to wield our political-military leverage in

so far turkey has refused to remove forces in iraq. it said its soldiers have been invited by the local government to train fighters. they're trying to resolve the dispute while russia has called for a security committee meeting to resolve it. >> privately we've heard that there is a real fear of what is happening in iraq is the war against isil is becoming a proxy war that the regional powers are using iraq to fight each other. we're hearing a lot of sunni about the iranian role, and hearing from sheena mp she shia mps, and a lot of people are very worried here about the russian and american role also in this country. so it's likely that the reason although prime minister hyder al abadi knew about these turkish troops for over a year now, it will try to take control of its own country. that's the view of several people i've spoken to during the day here in iraq. what we're also hearing is that iraq needs to get itself together and to formulate a coalition that is really talking to each other. the moment you have a lot of very desperat

he said that the troops violate iraq's sovereignty. but his country prime minister said that his country's forces are able to push isil fighters out alone. there is increasing scrutiny about the way the forces are doing so. we have more from you are bill. >> troops keep watch on isil positions. they've had recent success in the northern iraqi town of sinjar. now they're hopeful to defeat the armed group in other parts of the country with help from their allies. >> until now the international coalition has been using airstrikes as a former officer you need troops on the ground. >> but prime minister hyder al abadi disagrees. he reaffirmed that iraq has no need of foreign ground troops. we did not ask innutrient to send any ground troops. we'll consider any such troops to be an act of aggression. they're concerned about iraqi army's increase human rights violations. it goes on to say that reports indicate that iraqi security forces kurdish security forces and their respected affiliated militias have been responsible for looting and destr

announces to send more troops to iraq. iraq prime minister says, not so fast. we will have all the details for you. good morning, i'm nicole petallides. >> cheryl: gong, -- good morning, i'm cheryl casone. we may find out. >> nicole: let's check out what's going on with futures after yesterday triple-digit gain. s&p futures up right now almost 3 ahead of the bell. >> cheryl: yahoo's board will consider selling the company's internet businesses. we are going to look what that means to ceo marisa myers. >> nicole: he and his wife will donate 99% of money to charity. >> cheryl: details coming up. first look at what's moving in fbn:am, first look on markets and what to expect on your day ahead. >> we are deploying targeting force to assist iraqi and kurdish forces and put more pressure on isil, special operators will conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture isil leaders. >> nicole: ash carter telling armed services committed that it's being done with in cooperation with government. iraqi quite minister issueing that there's no need for foot gro

>> well, kurds, for example. >> and in iraq? >> kurds also, for example. >> was that part -- >> that's a fact. is there still a lot farther to go? you bet there is. i'm committed, and i will be, and i have been absolutely candid with you.ive expect intelligence officials to be candid with me. i can't comment on an inspector general investigation. >> mr. secretary -- >> but i will tell you -- >> wait. it's my time. it's your testimony that you're here today because the kurds have advanced because we have momentum and that isil is shrinking? >> for that and a number of other reasons, we are gathering momentum. it is a fact that the territory under isil's control has shrunk. that's not a declaration of victory. >> you have indicated it is war. are we winning, mr. secretary? >> we will win. >> are we winning now? >> we are going to win. >> mr. secretary, i admit both of sides of the aisle are not confident that you have a strategy and you do not have based on an accurate assessment i think your presentation here today shows a discon

and the number of forces that might be going into iraq? >> reporter: we don't know yet how many forces are going to be deployed to either country, as you noted there are about 50 or so special operating forces inside syria right now. it is worth reminding our aidence that there are about 3500 or so u.s. troops inside iraq for the express purpose of training and providing assistance, intelligence gathering, and other sorts of support to the iraqi military, as well as working with local sunni militias to help improve their capabilities, particularly as the fight fore ramadi seems to be almost at hand. but we don't know how many numbers, and certainly they would want to keep that number a bit of a surprise so the members of isil and those supporting them wouldn't be able to outflank them. >> so a new force inside iraq, an expanded force potentially in syria, and that expanded force according to ash carter, will be able to free hostages -- i'm taking just a little bit of what he said -- free hostages, gather intelligence and capture isil leade

in iraq and syria. this is al jazeera. also ahead. >>> don't bomb syria >>> thousands rally in london ahead of a parliamentary vote on whether to approve launching air strikes in syria. plus. >> reporter: in baghdad violence rises across iraq and the price of oil plum ets and civilians are going into poverty >>> government intervention clears a hazardous fog choking china's capital. obama says the u.s. is stepping up the fight against i.s.i.l. more special forces will be sent to fight the armed group in both iraq an syria. obama has expressed that the ground troop mission will be carried out alongside continued diplomatic efforts. >> reporter: the united states is intensifying the war in iraq and syria in the hope that it will eventually lead to talk of peace. >>> next, in full coordination with the government of iraq we're deploying a special targeting force to assist iraqi and peshmerga forces and putting more pressure on i.s.i.l. these special operators will over time be able to conduct raids, free hostages, gather inte

that's what we saw in iraq and afghanistan. when you capture somebody, you bring them back and interrogate them, and you also get his pocket letter, whether actual paper, phone, computer, ipad, so you have all that information and you're interrogating him and that turns into new intelligence on other guys you can then turn around and action. so intelligence gets you started. the operations then begin, and then it sustains the intelligence. that's what we're trying to achieve here. >> rose: and your definition of boots on the ground? >> so boots on the ground is in the eyes of the beholder, and it's used more politically than militarily. >> rose: but this is an aggressive use of american forces in the region. >> yes. so here's how -- >> rose: so then can support somebody else. >> so there is over 3,000 american soldiers on the ground in iraq who are advising, assisting and training, right? that's physically boots on the ground but they're not in combat, right? they're not fighting or in combat. then ther there are special fors w