[laughter] >> when they asked me to interview koppel, that's what i figured was going to happen, koppel was going to interview the audience here. [laughter] so in the introduction, ted, they describe this book using your words, the publisher's words, as a wake-up call for the united states. have americans woken up? >> well, if they have, i'm not sure i see any evidence of it yet. but it's early. i mean, the book's only been out three weeks. [laughter] let me, let me put this into context for you. we are currently sitting here in the aftermath of a russian jet being blown out of the sky, in the aftermath of the terrible attack in paris, in the aftermath of what just happened in west africa, and our political leaders -- and i use the term, i use the term very loosely -- at least those who would like to be our political leaders are covering themselves with a lack of glory. all the talk now is about the need to protect the nation against the influx of 10,000 syrian, muslim refugees. and i would argue that we have long since passed the day when what we need to be most worried about is some t

[inaudible conversations] >> journalist ted koppel is next on booktv. in his book, "lights out," he reports that a cyber attack on one of the three grids that power america would be a major disaster, and he argues this is a threat for which the u.s. is unprepared. >> ted koppel, a 42-year veteran of abc news, was anchor and managing editor of nightline from 1980 to 2005. he has won every significant television award, including eight peabody awards, 11 overseas press club awards, 12 dupont columbia awards and 42 emmys. he has been a contributing columnist to "the new york times," the washington post and the wall street george and the author of the -- "wall street journal" and the author of "off camera." in his latest book, "lights out: cyberattack, a nation

should i buy a butter churn, ted koppel? >> that's not a bad idea. if i were you, i would also buy a whale oil lamp. >> stephen: i already have a whale bone corset. so, what can be done? are there any answers in here, or is this just something to make me so panicked that i read it and set myself on fire? what is-- are there answers in here? >> there are a couple of suggestions in there. what i'm really hoping, stephen, we're in the middle of a political campaign, right? this is an issue that needs to be discussed. it shouldn't be a democratic issue, it shouldn't be a republican or conservative or liberal issue. if we can get people to talk about it, we're creative people. we will find answers. >> stephen: is there a candidate out there who is running this year who you think cares or is willing to bring up something like infrastructure? >> well, jim webb in fact brought it up at one of the debates and we all know what happened to jim webb. >> stephen: uh-huh. what happened to jim webb is that we no longer know what is happening to jim webb. >> that's

also ahead ted koppel on whether he thinks the u.s.a. is in big trouble and miller on who can get us out of that trouble. >> it seems like madness but people are mad. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ >>> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watch us tonight. can anyone say america that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. first a brief recap of last night's debate. trump dominated the conversation after the debated because of his testy exchanges with jeb bush. those who like trump going in still like him. those whoáÑ find him lacking still find him lacking. jeb bush was more feisty than usual but with nine folks on the stage his time was limited and he will most likely not see too much benefit. ben carson did not score many points and his dissent in the polls will likely continue. the cruz rubio back and forth interesting. both men articulate. cruz more conservative. rubio bigger threat to hillary clinton should he get the nomination. fight on terrorism should help

that is the warning from that one broadcaster ted koppel. out." new book, "lights i spoke to him about the threat and the possible consequences. ted koppel, paint a picture of how disastrous it would be for the united states if the electric grid was hit. grids, only have three and the one that is servicing us right now covers everything from the east coast west past chicago. if the electric power were knocked out, you are talking about tens of millions of people without electricity over weeks, maybe months. katty: that also means water -- ted: no heat, no light, no refrigeration, no ability to pour water out of your cap, ability to flush the toilet. imagine what this means in a city the size of new york. 8 million people with no capacity to get rid of human waste. after three or four days, it becomes a monumental crisis. katty: as we saw with new orleans after katrina. in terms of the scale of severity, you would put this up with the terrorist attacks that we have seen in france recently -- ted: far worse. this would be -- president hollande of fr

a new book by former nbc anchor ted koppel. surviving the aftermath. here now is mr. koppel. that title is pretty scary. >> i hope so. >> can you back it up? >> as you know, bill, reporters don't necessarily know a hell of a lot about the actual subject until they start talking to the experts. i talk to experts in the military, and the intelligence field, in the industry itself. and the vast preponderance of them believe that this is not only a possibility but a likelihood. >> all right. so some nation, russia, putin, china, even maybe the terrorists, the isis or iranians, they will hack into our system? >> they have already hacked into our system. the chinese and the russians are already inside. this comes from people high ranking people in the national security agency. they got what amount to cyber time bombs all ready to go off. >> they are already working toward bringing down our system. >> they are already in a position that with a key stroke they can take down the power grid. >> why don't they do it. >> because the russians and the chinese and the united states have so

all the weather all the scores that's the world news polka business news from tokyo, stuff you saw on koppel's show that's the world news polka it's late at night you're wide awake and you're not wearing pants so grab your "world news now" mug and everybody dance hey have some fun be a pal every anchor guy and gal do the world news polka who cares what the network thinks or the sponsors too cops here's all you have to do when they yell it's half past 3:00 tell them hey, it's news to me, that's the world news polka. stuck here on the overnight but that's okay because when he comes down the chimney we say hi to santa claus hope he brings just one gift get us off this midnight shift that's the world news polka do the world news polka >>> settle down ourndunder the mistletoe with a look at impressive performances to help you bring in the merriment of the season. it's the stellar tribute to the holidays with performances by yeo lane da adams, brans allen, shirley cesar, kirk franklin, jermaine hawkins, jonathan

to discuss this new normal, i'm joined by ted koppel, author of a new book called "lights out, a cyber attack, a nation unprepared for surviving the aftermath. a little doom and gloom. >> a lot of doom and gloom. but i didn't create it. i decided to write the back after i heard the president warning about it twice in the state of the union address, leon panetta, all saying it was more likely than not that there would be a cyber attack on the power grid. that would mean tens of millions of people without power for months. but you also point out, i don't know if we want to call it cyber terrorism, but it's happening already. the chinese clearly, we think they stole a bunch of -- >> 103 million. >> right. records from the government. the united states may have thwarted the iranian nuclear program with its own stuxnet. >> not may have. stuxnet was -- >> cyber warfare. >> we have the interesting distinction of using nuclear weapons for the first time. and we were the first to use a suber weapon against iranian -- >> and did we open a pandora's box? >> we did. the iranians are almost as good

weather all the scores ♪ ♪ that's the world news polka ♪ business news from tokyo, stuff you saw on koppel's show ♪ ♪ that's the world news polka ♪ it's late at night you're wide awake and you're not wearing pants ♪ ♪ so grab your "world news now" mug and everybody dance hey ♪ ♪ have some fun be a pal every anchor guy and gal do the world news polka ♪ ♪ who cares what the network thinks or the sponsors too ♪ ♪ and if your neighbors call the cops here's all you have to do ♪ ♪ when they yell it's half past 3:00 tell them hey, it's nuts to >>, news to me, that's the world news polka. ♪ stuck here on the overnight but that's okay because when he comes down the chimney ♪ ♪ we say hi to santa claus ♪ hope he brings just one gift get us off this midnight shift ♪ ♪ that's the world news polka ♪ do the world news polka >>> this morning on "world news now," the christmas disaster in the south. after deadly tornadoes take a heartbreaking toll, the holiday clean-up and the snowstorm that could delay travelers. >> shopping center gunfire. the second shooting incide

the best clip you played was koppel lecturing about arrogance. the media lecturing about arrogance? they braised barack obama who was among the most arrogant, very thin on the details. they didn't criticize him, and look how that turned out. >> richard, i remember when barack obama was running for president in 2008. he said he was going to rid the world of nuclear weapons. do you see any similarities there between trump and president obama with these lofty goals? >> it's laughable to compare the president of the united states to donald j. trump. what the president was talking about was connected to real positives you could do. we could rid the world of nuclear weapons. >> really? >> you want to disarm -- >> i'm saying we could. >> that would be insane. >> yeah, but that's not unconstitutional. getting rid of all muslims is uniquely unconstitutional. these are things you can't do at all. >> he didn't say he wanted to get rid of them. he said he wanted a temporary ban, just like jimmy carter did. let me ask you this. he brings up a good point about what is possible. now, donald trump

the best clip you played was koppel lecturing about arrogance. the media lecturing about arrogance? they braised barack obama who was among the most arrogant, very thin on the details. they didn't criticize him, and look how that turned out. >> richard, i remember when barack obama was running for president in 2008. he said he was going to rid the world of nuclear weapons. do you see any similarities there between trump and president obama with these lofty goals? >> it's laughable to compare the president of the united states to donald j. trump. what the president was talking about was connected to real positives you could do. we could rid the world of nuclear weapons. >> really? >> you want to disarm -- >> i'm saying we could. >> that would be insane. >> yeah, but that's not unconstitutional. getting rid of all muslims is uniquely unconstitutional. these are things you can't do at all. >> he didn't say he wanted to get rid of them. he said he wanted a temporary ban, just like jimmy carter did. let me ask you this. he brings up a good point about what is possible. now, donald trump

the best clip you played was koppel lecturing about arrogance. the media lecturing about arrogance? they braised barack obama who was among the most arrogant, very thin on the details. they didn't criticize him, and look how that turned out. >> richard, i remember when barack obama was running for president in 2008. he said he was going to rid the world of nuclear weapons. do you see any similarities there between trump and president obama with these lofty goals? >> it's laughable to compare the president of the united states to donald j. trump. what the president was talking about was connected to real positives you could do. we could rid the world of nuclear weapons. >> really? >> you want to disarm -- >> i'm saying we could. >> that would be insane. >> yeah, but that's not unconstitutional. getting rid of all muslims is uniquely unconstitutional. these are things you can't do at all. >> he didn't say he wanted to get rid of them. he said he wanted a temporary ban, just like jimmy carter did. let me ask you this. he brings up a good point about what is possible. now, donald trump

wars all the weather all the scores ♪ ♪ that's the "world news" polka ♪ ♪ businesses from tokyo on koppel's show ♪ ♪ that's the "world news" polka ♪ ♪ you're wide awake and you're not wearing pants ♪ ♪ grab your hallmark and everybody dance ♪ ♪ every anchor, guy and girl do the "world news" polka ♪ ♪ when you pick up the big sack watching "world news" polka ♪ ♪ you'll have presents beneath the tree ♪ ♪ if you turn on your tv to the "world news" polka ♪ ♪ stuck here on the overnight that's okay because when he comes down the chimney we say hi to santa claus ♪ ♪ that's the "world news" polka we wish you season greetings ♪ ♪ and the best of every key that's why you won't be hearing mary mitchell sing ♪ ♪ that's our christmas gift to you it's the "world news" polka ♪ ♪ do the "world news" polka >>> this morning on "world news now," terror arrest. agents bust a friend of the san bernadino couple responsible for 14 deaths. what investigators are revealing about other terror plots and why this arrest is so important. >>> executive under arrest. the c

former "nightline" hose ted koppel, author of a new book about cyber terrorism called "lights out, a cyber attack, a nation unprepared." then helene cooper, pentagon correspondent for the "new york times," molly boll of the "atlantic" and jerry seib who is the bureau chief. jerry, let me start with you, trump, trump, trump, trump. but -- >> you were talking about fear and loathing. here's the number in our poll that has republican establishment people in fear and loathing mode. 59% of the people that we surveyed have a negative view of donald trump. 47% have a very negative view of donald trump. so that's -- those are tough that's the specter they worry about. however, having said that, you know, there is no sign that the block of people within the republican electorate who support donald trump are going anywhere. there's been no erosion. not since june, really, has there been any question who was the leading candidate in the republican party. and these are new voters. will they be republican primary voters? we'll find out. >> molly, what's been interesting here is the -- people will

for insight and analysis are veteran journalist and author of a new book about cyber terrorism, ted koppel. helene cooper of the "new york times." molly ball of the "atlantic" and jerry seib of the "wall street journal." welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> good sunday morning. 50 days until voters start expressing their opinion. we have two new polls on the republican race for president. according to what may be developing into a three-man race, let's get to these numbers. donald trump is back on top in our new national nbc news/"wall street journal" poll sitting at 27%. up four points since late had in our poll so far. ted cruz is surging, now in second, sitting at 22, more than double where he was in october. marco rubio also on the rise. and look at old ben carson, the one-time leader. believe it or not, he led in the last nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. he's dropped dramatically to 11%. here's the rest of the candidates who picked up at least 1% in our poll. jeb bush still stuck in single digits. then this bombshell out of iowa. cruise surging into the lead with 31%, a 2

is unprepared. >> ted koppel, a 42-year veteran

. >> and coming up tonight on the late show with stephen colbert, sylvester stallone, ted koppel and kyle busch rr. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> the unusual custody battle over a duck named juanita is over tonight. juanita escaped from the bello gardens assisted living facility in september then she got placed in to a wildlife hospital in san rafael. the agency couldn't legally return juanita because of permitting issues. so congressman jared huffman stepped in to get the duck back to bello gardens and tomorrow the senior center can keep juanita as an educational wild animal. >>> schools of endangered coho salmon. those fish are leaping in to the air as they make wear way up stream. the salmon are coming in from the ocean to spawn. environmentalists say the fish are facing extinction because of the state's drought. good to see them come back. >>> and i'm back. we've got sports. coming up in sports, trying to close the gap on division rivals. ,,,, [ dog barks ] [ bark ] there it is! [ gasps ] oh no! look, the sky's awake! ♪ that. was. epic! [ bark ] ranked team in the country d do >>>

just koppel lanes available up there and unavailable, i should say. southbound the commute direction is deed by all this activety, as well. the east shore freeway still slow down towards the berkeley curve and earlier crash on the bay bridge itself causes the backup at the toll plaza itself. the rest of the bay moves well, including the maze on the approach and see things smooth out through berkeley. plan for that for the slowest drive for the bay. green blotches, damp, wet roadways let's just say that. bay bridge toll plaza just to show you the conditions and end with this shot, you xguys wet roadways and the traction of your car. a lot of spinouts in this area and things are calmer as far as weather wise right now. look for wet roadways to continue. >> definitely slowing things down a bit, mike. >>> the frontrunner for the most awkward live television of all of 2015 and just happened last night. the major mistake while crowning the new miss universe that has everyone talking this morning. >> sounds like you have your vote in. >>> deja vu at levi sta

elsewhere in the city, more etrys koppeling over, crushing roads, all this blamed on roaring wind, look at the size of that etry. listen to what happened to one woman and her family. >> we were sitting watching tv. we heard a sound, we thought it was a large car crash. it lasted about 30 to 40 seconds. we went to the front door. we seen a big tree on the front porch and know we can't get out of the house. >> meantime, the northeast is hit with a snowstorm. about five inches falling in ermt have. three people died in the state when their suv crashed head on into a tractor-trailer. this happening in killington. at least four other people were injured. this was the scene in albany, new york. cars taking their time as the flakes fell. the area hit with at least six inches of snow. >> it has been so mild for so long. storms and icy conditions causing travel headaches. there are 250 flight delays and cancellations in the u.s. so far this morning. yesterday ending at midnight the weather had acted about 7200 flights, allison. >> lots of headaches. now with the rain and the snow mostly behind u

koppel and krauthammer both say trump has no specific solutions to terrorism and the economy. but hissing nomic success in business shows both leadership and cunning. i am 16 and i want to say thanks for the great prices at the christmas store. my dad is going to love his presents. thank you. just finished your book, hitler's last days, and believe it is possibly your best book. awesome show with miller in las vegas. loved every second. tickets were great. christmas gift for my two daughters. excellent, genie. they gave you tickets to vegas. no, no, this year. that's right. they give you a prechristmas gift. right? we have three shows already on the board for 2016. and tickets to make christmas gifts as genie attests. los angeles, march 12th. fairfax, virginia, may 7th. and we are leaving tickets for harry reid to that show. and connecticut june 18th. billoreilly.com will take you to the box office. tickets to who wants to be president of the bill o'reilly show. the tip of date, i'm lucky to get a break around christmas. i have four books on my night table. house of the rising

also ahead, ted koppel on whether he thinks the u.s.a. is in big trouble and miller on who can get us out of that trouble. >> it seems like madness