have roughly for fbi. the request also includes what i think is an unworkable gimmick to authorize doj to working capital funds to be used for construction. how do you propose that's work? >> mr. chairman i do not know enough about that to give you an intelligent answer. i understand the money we asked for, i understand that gsa intends to have whoever wins the bid take our existing building and partial payments, but i do not understand enough about the working capital. i will give you a smart answer but i cannot answer right now. >> to know what the intended use of the present building would be? >> i think gsa's idea is to sell it to a developer, the developer, the developer who built our building will get a partial payments of the current building and can develop it however the local law allows him to develop it. hotel or office building or something like that. it will be using that object as partial payment of the new building. >> this is a gsa deal, that is is my understanding of how they will do it. >

they just unlock that phone, get the data that the fbi needs, provide the fbi with that data without giving them the whole back-door process to the way that they actually were able to get the data from the phone? >> that is my understanding of the order. the order does not contemplate the fbi being handed over the encryption or the decryption tools or software that could act upon other phones. this is much more narrow. what the fbi is looking for, reasonably and responsibly, is the data. but this does lead us into the broader conversation. >> mm-hmm. >> sadly here, the terrorist attack is over. and where the fbi wants to be is in front of a terrorist attack the next time so it can defeat it. >> susan, play out for me this scenario that i sense you are -- you fear in response to what appears to be a reasonable court order to go after a device that was owned by a terrorist murderer. play it out. why should we, the users of cell phones, be worried that apple would have the ability to unlock a phone that is now not unlockable. >> right. so, ten years ago, before the iphone what we had wa

they're not asking the fbi -- the fbi is not asking for a back door to get into all phones. they're asking apple to open that phone. >> i think importantly to counter that, the argument apple is making is once we create this software and we now know from court filings, there are other requests around the country. once we create this software, the genie is, in a sense, out of bottle. >> they're asking for apple to open up. they're not asking it for the keys that they can open it and have indiscriminate access to all phones. they're asking apple to open this phone, open this phone. in their own facility. this issue is a broader issue for the legislature. it will be debated. the american public will have to decide the balance between privacy and security. that's an important issue. >> tim cook has acknowledged the fact that the fbi missed an opportunity to sync the icloud before we got to this point. we saw director comey say people have been watching too many tv shows. they think that the fbi is better looking and more technologically savvy than they actually are. is that self

the american people should expect nothing less from the fbi. >> you know, it's amazing that the fbi can find no crime when it's the administration, but they can take away constitutional protections if they can. this is a 1789 statute. it was never intended to do this. but even if you were to look at our founding fathers, our founding fathers did not want to have the ability to look inside every home before they got a warrant. every home before they knew there was a specific crime there. remember, this is, in fact, an issue in which the united states congress has been asked to consider changing laws, updating laws, and we have done so. and we have never been asked to, nor have we updated laws related to this all writ type of a warrant. the fact is, americans should not be forced to perform labor, to do something that they don't already have the ability to do. if apple had the ability to unlock the phone today, then, in fact, asking them to do it would not be burdensome and wouldn't violate any of the tenets. asking them to develop a vulnerability to -- based on something that may or may

half-brother for fbi. the request includes what i think is an unworkable gimmick to authorize doj working capital funds to be used for construction. how do you propose that to work? >> mr. chairman, i don't know enough about that to give you an intelligent answer. i understand the money we've asked for i understand tsa intends to have whoever wins the bid take our existing building in partial payment but i don't understand enough about the working capital but i will get you a sport into i can't answer it right now. >> do you know what the intended use for the present building would be? >> gsa's ideas sell it to a developer. the developer who built our building will get in partial payment, the current build of pennsylvania avenue can develop it how ever the local law allows them to develop it, i'll tell or office building or something like that but it will be, we'll be using the object as partial payment for the new building. >> house -- >> that's why understanding the this is a gsa deal. >> has there been

and so sent the fbi back on its back foot, made it harder for the fbi to do some of the work on their own and made it harder in fact for apple to reveal some of the data that had been on the phone themselves. they kind of locked themselves outs in a way of their own phone. >> right. >> let's be clear, apple did comply with the fbi's requests in the san bernardino case itself in respect to the data in the icloud. not iphone. when it came down to the fbi's request to crack and open the iphone that this fellow, this perpetrator had in his possession, that apple drew the line in the sand. and i think that both sides of this issue are very, very pr driven. why do i say this? apple requested of the court that the fbi's request to unlock this phone be played under seal. they wanted a private request, that they could either dispute or comply with privately. and the fbi made the request extremely publicly. the fbi ahas a backlog of requests, this is one of them that had been consuming with which apple has not been complying lately. and the fbi i think chose the most unsympathetic case a terrib

the fbi will recommend an indictment to go forward. it will be up to the justice department to make that call. the news for hillary in the last 72-hours has been very damaging. she should have serious concerns about the legality of what she did. in true clinton style they will try to throw somebody else under the bus to take the fall for it. they have to make serious value choices here. >> lightning round. i will ask all three of you. who wins democrat republican. does hillary get an indictment? >> you are talking about who wins? >> just iowa. >> i think it will be trump, cruise but rubio will be close on the row publican side. i think bernie sanders is going to pull out iowa. bernie sanders nomination will be great for the gop. >> i think donald trump takes iowa. it will be devastating to ted cruz's pain going forward than the one to loss that can over perform. he set the bar a little bit low is marco rubio. he looks good going forward from here. he's one to watch. if you listen to the analysts they are talking about trump taking it.

we seen fbi -- we have seen fbi director james comey testified. what happens next in this battle? >> tomorrow, apple's annual shareholder meeting. we will be looking from any comments -- for any comments from shareholders in cupertino. next week, we expect apples top lawyer and -- apple's top lawyer and the head of the fbi to be on capitol hill for a hearing. march 3 is the deadline for apple allies to file their briefs of support. reports of about mid-march, another apple event for their products. they are selling a lot of products. the annual spring event is around this time of year. toward the end of march, we are expecting to have a court hearing on these issues. cory: apple said they were developing a phone that would be

apple has cooperated with the fbi fully in this case. they came to us and asked us for all the information we had on this phone. and we gave everything that we had. but this case is not about one this case is about the future. what is at stake here is can the government compel apple to write software that we believe would make hundreds of millions of customers vulnerable around the world, including the u.s.? >> and you'd have to write that system in order to unlock that phone? >> yes. the only way we know would be to write a piece of software that we view as sort of the software equivalent of cancer. we think it's bad news to write. we would never write it. we have never written it. and that is what is at stake here. >> the fbi though says it believes syed faruk used that phone to communicate with his wife, his accomplice. do you struggle at all with the possibility there could be information on that phone that could reveal other plots, other people involved in planning the san bernardino attack? >> david, if we knew a way to get the inf

>> unfortunately, in the days, the early days of the investigation, an fbi -- fbi directed the county to reset the icloud password. when that is done, the phone will no longer back up to the cloud. and so, i wish they would have contacted us earlier, so that would not have been the case. >> how crucial was that missed opportunity? >> it's very crucial. >> the white house said this week that the fbi's request is, quote, limited in scope. limited in scope. do you agree with that, and have you talked to the president on this? >> i have not talked to the president. i will talk to the president. do i think it's limited, no. >> you have talked to the president before, on these issues of privacy and security. >> yes. >> are you disappointed there wasn't more of a dialogue with the administration before this swift action from the justice department? >> yes. >> you wish there was more done? >> yes. and i think there should have been. this filing -- we found out about the filing from the press. >> i'm curious, tim. did you ever think that you'd find yourself at the center of such a crucial nati

. >>> also developing, the fbi standoff with apple. after the terror attack in san bernardino, the fbi desperate to break into the gunman's iphone. a judge now demanding apple help the fbi. apple refusing. >>> under fire. the two officers trying to arrest this man. he pulls out a gun. their quick action in the moments that follow. >>> the a aeged imposter accused of posing as a doctor for more than a month, undetected, examining patients. the sting right here tonight. winning hundreds of millions, bhau they revealed after being handed the check. >>> good evening. and we begin tonight with breaking news in the race for president, and it comes just three days before the high stakes republican primary in south carolina. a new national poll moments ago showing someone other than donald trump leading nationally. and south carolina's hugely popular governor, nickykki haley, just moments ago, endorsing someone else. haley making it clear she wants senator marco rubio to be the republican nominee. and that new national poll tonight showing sen

, the fbi can't look survivors in the eye or survivors in the mirror if we don't follow this lead. but, apple's attorney is firing back. >> this is a pandora's box. >> reporter: appearing on abc's this week, titles and argue there is no limit to what the fbi could require apple to do >> apple has helped the fbi in the law required, but it ingitse net e o onouthco mt veanema hephonypheesg der o bou nelodevi t veph t ll 30 tg . oaofunree n d receoard umfe re em nu r ans rehime i be0svi a edpasoat c ndth alft toy d hofiiv h ea d wrtabe ni ilcoyd fehe mccentecse ei cg yo ictha r t in hyoinr enhoefrtepg . o r owtr roe,but lld nt rec tha he icfodrot. ulua r . he tot d-60 y le ab roioeyp y fo adfr unerstn esfatt ie rm tstutthhe utare ck sitlln.wede l l meitft thrathooveintot. snast ni piattuin ye ll lp tesd he h logyspelrie stdeowlft r lk oinmi rermityic grke t a to arywi bst fie helle igo trmng inatl fr nr e al , eits ctrnd>>> lcs l, avthe a atcoan ie s bi onth ayvee atd th s th m so atni pain i tuplo. ha ne r. d my ledysy. wainavs inxcited in pg. ut tulahet hille a ri xe aa rildit u at

that's what the fbi is asking for. for them to develop some software that will allow the fbi to break the pass code. now we don't know if it's a four digit pass code, six digit, multi. a four digit pass code versus an 11 digit pass code could mean years so with this specific instance we have to focus on this phone. we're not saying that apple is going to make software that can be easily translated to all the phones out there. we have to focus on this one instance and this, in my opinion, is a case of national security. talking about a terrorist phone, possible communications with other terrorists out there. >> you talk about the four digits, 11 digits, part of comey's testimony today is we're not the fbi you see on primetime tv. kayla asked if that was self-debrication or we overestimated their ability to hack into anything. >> what the public sees of the fbi is through tv shows and movies. the fbi and the government can only do with the tools that they have in their arsenal against the technology. in this instance the

tactics of the fbi. they've chosen what they've done% and they've chosen to do this out in the public, for whatever reasons that they have. what we think at this point, given it is out in the public, is that we need to stand tall and stand tall on principle. there's probably more information about you on your phone than there is in your house. our smartphones are loaded with our intimate conversations, our financial data, our health records. they're also loaded with the location of our kids, in many cases, so, it's not just about prove sip. but it is also about public safety. >> but in your quiet moments, do you have any concern that you might be able to prevent a terrorist attack by breaking into that phone? >> david, some things are hard, and some things are right. and some things are both. this is one of those things. >> and in this case, you believe there are some things that just should never be created. >> correct. talked to the fbi early on, giving them advice, he says, on other ways to best get i

and -- thanking the fbi and u.s. attorney's office as he will back up here in boston to face a judge soon. jonathan hall, 7news. >>> also on 7, police make a quick arrest after a deadly shooting outside a bar in randolph. 7's nicole oliverio has the story from quincy courthouse where the accused shooter faced a judge today. >> reporter: under heavy police presence, gregory wright faced a judge, accused of killing a man inside a randolph bar. >> mr. wright went to the city limit saloon in randolph last night and at that saloon -- or that barrow oh was mr. drake scott, the victim, who was performing at open mic night that evening. during the evening, mr. wright was -- he asked two different asking if that was the only exit that evening. >> reporter: police were responding to a disturbance nearby when they heard the shots. >> shots fired! shots fired! >> reporter: they quickly arrested wright across the street. inside court, the family of the victim broke down as prosecutors explain there was no explanation for the shoo

joining us is the former fbi deputy director tim murphy. it's great to have you with us. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> you want to add your voice to the conversation? what is your take? >> yeah. look. it's great that someone of bill gate's stature comes out and tries to give a balanced perspective of it. i love apple products. i have the apple products in my house. i love the encryptions. all of our communications should be encrypted whether it's the government or public sector or personal information. this is a different case when we're talking about balancing the privacy which we all love and i love personally with the security issue. here you have a case of an individual, right, that the phone is not even his. the phone is the county phone. he is deceased. really his privacy rights really aren't there anymore and he killed 14 people. i mean, you know, where have we gotten in this country that we can't have an assist. the fbi is not asking for description tools or to decrypt that phone for information. they're only asking for

." >> tonight, apple versus the fbi. it is an abc news exclusive. one on one with company ceo tim cook. why he is refusing to comply with a federal demand to unlock the iphone of one of the san bernardino killers. phone. this case is about the future. >> how it feels to be in the eye of the storm in a fierce national debate over security versus privacy. >> it's not just about privacy, it's also about public safety. >> and what he has to say about donald trump's call to boycott apple. >>> plus dalia dippolito made national headlines after she was accused of trying to have her now ex-husband killed in an we're there in court as she finally takes the stand. >>> and an emotional comeback for celine dion in her first concert since the death of her husband. "with one more look at you." then the powerful encore. >>> it's dat bate pitting the fbi over apple. to be night apple ceo tim cook on why he is refusing to help the feds break into the phone used by the san bernardino gunman. "world news tonight" anchor david muir also gets cook to respond to calls by

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nearly 30 yes, there is ago there wasn't much information for the fbi to go on. that is until 1987 when computer store owner gary wright became the victim of the unabomber's 12th bomb. >> as i drove into the rear parking lot i noticed there was a piece of wood. i went over to pick it up. i bent down. end of it. and immediately something happened. there was a big blast of pressure. and i was knocked about 20 feet backwards into the parking lot. >> what happened? >> when it went off there was about 200 pieces of shrapnel that went through my body at various points. >> reporter: just before wright arrived -- >> i found out my secretary had been looking out this window right here. and she saw somebody kneeling down, pulled something out of a bag, and set it on the ground. and they were looking face-to-face about four feet apart from one another. >> reporter: now investigators are able to derive the first police sketches of the elusive killer, a miscellaneousoustached man. >> a white male with high school education, might appear to be a nice guy with no apparent predi