independents broke for sanders, young people broke for sanders. people who don't like the way u.s. trade policies felt for the middle class broke for sanders. this has not to be devastating but a disappointing morning for the clinton campaign. >> yeah. it's an immensely disappointing morning for the clinton campaign. they still believe, i think, that this is in their favor. that hillary clinton is on course to become the democratic nominee. that doesn't change the fact that sanders' ability to continue winning these states, these states and the rest, he'll do very well among young voters who are the future of the democratic party and his ability to make inroads with african fe americans in michigan. all of this is setting off the alarm bells for hillary clinton. of course the key issue here, it's the one that the clinton campaign needs to focus on the most, how do you appeal to economic insecurity, job insecurity, that is something where bernie sanders has had a consistent and clear message. hillary clinton needs to focus not so much on taking on bernie sanders or pivoting the gene

sanders at 57%. you remember a little earlier in the broadcast i was showing you this woman here in the red. she was undecided. she ended up going for clinton here in this particular precinct. but as you can see now, this process, still underway. again, to point out, this is just 6 of 37 precincts here in pierce county that are prort g regarding, but so far looks like a very good showing for bernie sanders here in pierce county. jake? >> all right. jason carroll in silicon, washington, right outside tacoma and brianna keilar and david chilean, bring you back in. two examples of the results on the table today in washington state, in seattle, where sara sidner was. 80% for bernie. 20% for clinton. if that ends up being what the trend is statewide, that's what bernie sanders needs to be able to, to put some numbers on the table. >> he really does. we saw middle of this month, hillary clinton achieved this approximately 300 delegate lead and now bernie sanders has held her to that, and i think what he's

senator sanders saying, excuse me. both candidates cutting each other in a way that we really haven't seen in past debates, ari. then there were some really fascinating, interesting moments. senator sanders just moments ago talking about his religion for the first time. i think one of the only times we've heard him really talk about this in-depth, saying that his entire father's family was wiped out in the holocaust. he got very personal. secretary clinton talking about her faith as well. i think all in all, the takeaway from this debate, you had both of the candidates very firmly standing their ground. i think it's going to be tough to pick out a winner tonight, because they both had strong positions and defended them vigorously. i think it helped senator sanders a little bit. because again, the momentum, he came into the evening with momentum. i think he did carry that through and continue it through the evening. we'll have to see, though, with the folks waiting to come out in the spin room. we'll get everyone's take

bernie sanders hopes it will be sanders' saturday after his wins in washington state and alaska. sanders is looking to make it a trifecta in hawaii, to make a dent in hillary clinton's significant lead in the delegate race in hawaii. senator sanders has a key endorsement from congresswoman tullsy gabbard. she quit her position at the democratic national committee to support him. 142 delegates at stake in this day's round of voting. hawaii's another state where democrats split their delegates proportionally so clinton and sanders expected to get something out of this contest. donald trump's won hawaii's republican caucuses on march 18th and his republican counterparts have the day off. stephanie elam is at a caucus site in honolulu. stephanie, i don't know how you got this gig, but congratulations. good work on getting the assignment to cover the honolulu caucuses. tell us what's going on there. >> reporter: you've got to win one every now and then, jake. look at the tonout here. this is what's going on here in honolulu. they are talking about record turnout potentially here. they

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: let me say this. i know that in our country, not everybody agrees with my views on immigration reform. we are a democracy. people have different points of view. what is not acceptable manner what your point of view is is to throw racist attacks against mexicans -- [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: the reason donald trump will never be elected president is the american people will not accept insults to mexicans, muslims, or women. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: the american people will not accept a president who insults our veterans. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: or who several years ago led the so-called birther effort which was an ugly, ugly attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the presidency of barack obama. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and now, you can agree with the president, you can disagree, that is democracy but do not tell me he is not the legitimate president of this country. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and when we talk about racism in america, and i a

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and we are going bernie sanders: i want to tell you a brief story, a brief story about what i mean when i talk about a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign finance system, and a broken criminal justice system. i want you to hear this. last month, goldman sachs, one of the large -- [crowd booing] bernie sanders: you know goldman sachs, ok. last month, goldman sachs paid the federal government a settlement fine of $5 billion. they paid that fine because they were selling worthless packages of subprime mortgage loans. paid a $5 billion fine. now all of you know that eight years ago, this country was plunged into the worst economic downturn since the great depression. as a result of wall street greed and illegal behavior, we lost millions of jobs. people lost their life savings. people lost their homes. that took place because of the greed and illegal behavior on wall street. today, this is the broken criminal justice system. today, some person in arizona or vermont gets picked up with a small amount of marijuana. that person has a police record for the r

[cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i am a member of the u.s. senate committee on the environment. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and i have talked to scientists all over the world. the debate is over, climate change is real. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: it is caused by human activity. together, we are going to break our dependence on fossil fuels. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: and transform our energy system into sustainable energy, and energy efficiency. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i have been criticized for saying this, so let me say it again. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe that health care is a right for all people. [cheers and applause] bernie sanders: i believe there is something wrong when every other major country on earth provides health care as a right, and we do not. today, -- [crowd chanting "bernie!"] bernie sanders: the affordable care act -- it is done a lot of good. but we need to do more. today, 29 million people have no health insurance, and even more are underinsured. today, w

bernie sanders. this is a place where his message plays very well. keep in mind this is the home of the minimum wage debate, this is the home of marijuana legalization, so this is a place where his message plays very well. now, here at the caucus, really a three sort of phased caucus. you come in, there's an initial vote. then folks have three minutes to talk where they try to sway the undecided votes into their camp or to try to switch people from hillary clinton to bernie sanders and vice versa. and then there's that final vote. and those are the results that we're waiting for now. i have to tell you a pretty informed group of people, it takes some courage certainly to stand up in front of your friends and neighbors and that's exactly what you do here at the caucus. you're talking to people in your neighborhood trying to persuade them one candidate or the other. so we saw a lot of informed debate happening in the caucus. ari. >> and briefly, cal, one of the things we saw last night was 15,000 peopl

tonight, hillary clinton and bernie sanders will debate once again in the wake of bernie sanders victory in michigan last night. a hastily convened press conference late last night, even sanders himself seemed a little taken aback by the outcome. in an interview today on msnbc, he was riding high up on his horse. sen. sanders: virtually every national poll, and almost all of the statewide polls, that have bernie sanders against the donald trump, we do better, and in some cases, much better than hillary clinton does against donald trump. just coming from michigan. john: that is bernie sanders. he sounded pretty good after his michigan victory. how, how, how on earth did sanders pull this off? mark: his economic message is going to find as good of a reaction there as anything. particularly trade is an issue that has more residents in michigan than any other state. they don't like nafta, the clinton view of trade, even with hillary clinton's shift, and the combination of his effort, advertising, and support from people who think trade is bad for u.s. jobs allowed him to take a huge comeback

so was sanders himself. we were at the hotel where his staff was celebrating last night, obviously, down at the bar cheering, drinking. this was a campaign that went from being in the mild day of a slog that was kind of a difficult thing, every day put one foot in front of the other to being a campaign that was really exciting again. i think you saw a little bit of to from senator sanders on the stage tonight. he was a little bit back in his element after last weekend's debate in flint when hillary clinton went after him for his vote on the auto bailout. or that piece of the wall street bailout that included money that helped the auto industry. so he clearly came you know, ready to throw some punches her way. i think he saw that particularly on undocumented immigration. as far as you know, the children who are coming across the border from honduras and other places. so it's pretty clear to me that the sanders campaign is in a place where they are re-energied in a place where there are delegates. and we saw h

senate has endorsed bernie sanders for president. am i right, congressman, you took a poll of the voters in your district about who you should endorse? >> no, we took a national poll, chris. we set up a website called graysonsurvey.com and told both candidates about it and allowed people to vote for two weeks and came in 400,000 voted more than nevada and new hampshire combined. more than south carolina, and the final vote was 84-16 in favor of sanders but what's most interesting we allowed them not just to vote but give reasons and they were fascinating but the fundamental reason they're voting for sanders they want deep fundamental change and somebody to address the effects offive ivfive inequality. they want change. >> tonight when sanders was pressed on the how, at one point karen tumulty, he said the solution is a political revolution and this has been something he said in response to a lot of things. what does that phrase mean to you? how do you understand it as a person running a race state. wide office in florida and is -- if

from bernie sanders. he's about to make a statement. we'll have live coverage of that. he's probably very, very happy with what's going on in mish given rig -- michigan. he's got a nice little lead. you have to give him a lot of credit. you have to wonder if 68% of the votes that are in, there's still a lot of votes are not in. >> there are a lot of votes out, some of them in big places like wayne county. as votes have come in, she would probably like it to be about 60. if you look at this, 23,000 votes plus a few hundred. if you double that, no guarantee of that, but just assume the vote came in double that, that would put her ahead of bernie sanders, if she got that. if that's how wayne county came in, essentially the second half came in exactly as the first half. >> that's the biggest county. >> that would put her up there. but, look, there are a lot of places that bernie sanders is running well ahead of her that still have votes out. kalamazoo. you come over here just west of detroit, you get here whe

bernie sanders does. he cuts against that grain, and now that we have one in michigan, we're going to turn this corner and bring the neoliberal era to a close, my sister. we're going to fight the neofascism of trump and going to invite you to get on the bernie sanders love train. juan: before we get on the love train, i have to say of ernie gets nominated, we have yet to see the real attacks -- >> we are ready. we are ready. juan: at this point, the attacks are concentrated mostly on trump. i would like to bring melina abdullah into this conversation. in terms of the appeal that dolores huerta has made to black lives matter to get involved when it comes to voting, even not just at the presidential level, but the congressional and senate races that are up and coming that will really determine what any president will be able to do, your response to dolores huerta? >> i think we have a great deal of respect for dolores huerta as well as dr. west. it is really important we understand what black lives matter i

we just heard from bernie sanders. whatever the final number is, this is still considered a big win for him tonight. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. i mean, the sanders campaign feels like this gives them a lot of momentum going into these series of contests coming up here in a week, wolf. he's really looking toward ohio, even before seeing his showing tonight, his campaign felt that his message attacking hillary clinton for her past support of some -- even before seeing how it played here in michigan. that's certainly we should watch going into the next week here. i want to talk about some of the polling. the sanders campaign on friday did their final internal polling. they found that hillary clinton was up by what i was told by one aide was high single digits. that was on friday. they didn't bother polling over the weekend because they found it really difficult to get ahold of young people, which are so key to his sort of black -- his numbers did not reflect his support of minority voters. >> ohio, one of the big co

i just believe that senator sanders, he took that lonely position. >> sanders received some good news tonight winning maine's caucuses. he won three out of four contests this weekend. he is trying to play catchup in michigan hoping to come up with a big win here in the rough belt. >> it is quite the prize coming up this week. mike emanuel, thank you so much. which candidate had the better night? we will have our panel of experts to discuss it. associate editor for the hill hill, senior politics writer for u.s. news and reports political correspondent and juan williams columnist for the hill. there was a lot of talk about the auto bail jut. it is very sensitive. this is michigan. there was a lot of cheering in favor of the bailout. it did put bernie sanders in a pouf tough position. we saw him get heated where a couple times he said hillary clinton, excuse me, i am talking. i will hayou will have your chu. >> he was very aggressive tonight. everyone has read about the climb he would have to mount in the delegate. he would have to win very high percentages going forward to eclipse her a

i thought it was good for bernie sanders. >> you heard hillary clinton and bernie sanders insist they could beat the republican front runner, donald trump, in a general election campaign. how will republicans watching this debate from your perspective as a trump supporter? >> i think it was interesting the rnc released their talking points all about hillary not discounting anything that bernie said, fact checking what hillary said. i think the republicans are convinced that hillary will be the contender . last night's debate was a clue in to how one of our guys will have to handle hillary. you saw some of the the tough push back that bernie did to hillary yet no charges of sexism. it will be interested to see if you will see that same when you have a republican candidate charges against her in one of these debates if they will say he is sexist. >> hold on. hold on. hold up for a moment. we will continue this conversation but i quickly want to go to an unrelated story. peyton manning is holding a press dmmpbs denver right now announcing his retirement from the broncos after the super b

sanders: i rest my case. i have talked -- and i'm sure it is similar in this room -- i have talked to people in my own state. a young woman wanted to become a doctor, went to medical school, is practicing primary health care to low income people. exactly the kind of doctors we need, she graduated medical school $300,000 in debt. talk to a young dentist in iowa, graduated dental school, $400,000 in debt. talked to a young man in iowa, left college after two years, $60,000 in debt. talked to a guy in nevada -- this is incredible -- he's 35 -- 55 years old and has been paying off student debt for 25 years. he is more in debt today than when he started. [booing] sen. sanders: here is what this campaign is about is thinking outside of the box, thinking outside of the status quo. [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: do not accept the status quo, do not accept crazy reality. it is crazy -- everybody tells young people in this country education is important. everybody says "get all the education you can." everybody sa

sanders people are cheering in. where did he give his victory speech tonight from? california. he is saying we're going to the bitter end. >> bernie sanders is like a low-grade toothache for her. it isn't going to kill her, but it hurts enough and what she wants to do is get it pulled and get rid of it. there's no sign that she's going to be able to accomplish that. >> it's amazing, the shift that she has that it's engendered among her a lot of tactical shifts on policy positions to accommodate bernie sanders. >> i disagree with that notion. she's always been a progressive on the big issues that democrats care about. expanding opportunity, making sure we protect the rights of all citizens. bernie sanders has been a good candidate in the sense that there are democrats out there who would like to see the party take real principal positions on income and equality, on climate change and trade for example, and the debate is not hurting the party. i think it's galvanizing the party. you have to go back to the math. there

sanders: that's right. run ashown that you can successful independent campaign without running on wall street and big money. [applause] clintonders: secretary chose to go in another direction. the way every other candidate is going. to establish a super pac. [crowd boos] sen. sanders: actually, to establish several super pac's. who are already spending millions of dollars against us in this campaign. what she reported in her recent raised 25 that she million from her super pac, 15 million alone coming from wall street. [crowd boos] sen. sanders: and millions more coming from other special interests like the fossil fuel industry and the drug companies. top of that, as many of you know, secretary clinton has given speeches behind closed doors to wall street financial institutions and received $225,000 per speech. [crowd boos] sen. sanders: now, what i think, if you are going to get $225,000 per speech, it must be a phenomenal speech. [laughter] [applause] [crowd chanting "bernie"] sen. sanders: it must be , a

sanders is doing so well. we have yet to hear from the population centers of seattle, tacoma, olympia and spokane. let's go north to alaska where we find our own paul vercammen in anchorage. also at a caucus site. paul, what's going on where you are? >> reporter: well, this gentleman, steve, the district chairman of district 20 which is down town anchorage, literally counting the votes as we speak. if you recall from the live shots earlier at the bottom of the auditorium. now we're in the balcony where this down town district is counting. and this is the hillary side. as we told you it's not traditional caucus where people sit around a card table, for example, and discuss their views. they are now voting. so they are counting it up. as you saw proportionally. let's give you the numbers, districts 27 and 28, anchorage, it was 73% for bernie sanders, 27% for hillary clinton. and as we look at the counting that's going on now. i'm going to give you perspective, jake, these are all hillary supporters here. then if

you see bernie sanders and jane sanders taking the stage in madison, wisconsin. let's listen in. >> this is an extraordinary turnout, madison. thank you so much for being here today. let me begin by thanking the people of alaska for giving us a resounding vi tonight. and it appears that with some 30% of the vote in in the state of washington, we're above 75%. >> bernie! bernie! bernie! bernie! >> you know, we knew from day one that we were going to have politically a hard time in the deep south. that is a conservative part of our country. but we new things were going to improve as we headed west. and last week we won utah with 78% of the vote. we won idaho with 79% of the vote. and we won democrats abroad with 67% of the vote. we are making significant inroads in secretary clinton's lead and we have with your support coming here in wisconsin, a path toward victory. >> bernie! bernie! >> we have -- i think it is hard for anybody to deny that our campaign has the momentum. you are the momentum. look around you tonight. and what we are seeing and what momentum means

sanders is their pick. among african-american vote, a quarter of the electorate, hillary clinton won 65% of the vote. that is much narrower than in mississippi where she had 85% of the vote, guys. >> christine, thank you very much for going through the numbers. let's bring in deputy communications director at hillary for america, christina shockey. it is good to have you with us this morning. what is your take on the results? >> hi, chris. it's great to be with you. well, you know, we had two contests yesterday. michigan was hard fought. we congratulate senator sanders yesterday. hillary clinton came out last night netting 20 delegates because of her substantial win in mississippi and michigan was closer. we actually feel really good. because she came into yesterday because of her huge wins on super tuesday. we come out last night with 20 more delegates. we are feeling very good about that. we are also feeling very good about the enthusiasm for hillary. more than 1 million people voted last night. she has w

sanders: you're right. if you look at people who have given up looking for work and who are working part-time, real unemployment is close to 10%. and here's something else we do not talk about at all, the media has nothing to say about it, that is youth unemployment in this country. kids who graduated high school between 17-20, if those kids are white, 33% are unemployed or underemployed, latino 36%, african-american 51%. and if anyone here thinks there is not a direct correlation between that outrageously high rate of youth unemployment and the fact that we have more people in jail than in any other country, you would be missing an important point. here is radical idea number two, we are going to invest in our young people -- for our young people, in jobs and education, not jails and incarceration. [applause] >> bernie, bernie, bernie -- [applause] sen. sanders: and real -- and when real unemployment is almost 10%, and when we have an infrastructure which is collapsing in many parts of this country -- i wa

bernie sanders with an even wider margin so far, 81.6% for sanders, hillary clinton with 18.4%. this is the percentage of delegates that are going to them, not the popular vote in those states. we're giving the information as we get them from the states. let's go to paul in anchorage, alaska. at the site of one of these caucuses. paul, i know you're only in one precinct. you have an idea how turnout compares this caucus season as opposed to 2008? >> reporter: we do. they are pacing ahead. they believe they are going to shatter a record. by the way, jake, actually they combined 14 of the most populous districts in all of alaska, anchorage, into west anchorage high school, so just here alone we watched the democracy in action in quite a few precincts. they are getting ready to elect delegates, to the state convention. and everybody's trying to lobby for the reasons they want to represent the democratic party here. and by the way, you are talking about the popular vote. from what we understand of the five districts that we calculated in this building alone, it was bernie sanders, 7

all of a sudden he turned himself into something of a victim with bernie sanders and bernie sanders' supporters on the other side and most importantly he's given his followers which are millions and millions of people, something like 35% of the vote cast, where he's given them something to say, kind of comeback about all this violence that has happened at these rallies and some of the rhetoric so they can now blame it on bernie sanders, this communist, so i think this works for donald trump. we'll have to see on tuesday what happens. >> bernie sanders, bernie's supporters get the credit for this, right and hillary clinton on the other side of it, i just wonder if you think mayor as a clinton supporter, this is in a way showing that perhaps donald trump sees bernie sanders as a more formidable threat in say a general? >> no, think it shows donald trump being the usual irresponsible donald trump, who is not taking any responsibility for virtually anything that happens in a campaign, and he could have obviously blamed senator sanders and next week he could be blaming secretary clinton.

hillary clinton leads bernie sanders by 28 points. clinton and sanders are focusing on ohio today. on the republican side, donald trump has an event in three states today, illinois, ohio, and florida. ted cruz is in north carolina and colorado. with just two days of the ohio primary, saisic picked up a big endorsement from house speaker john boehner. more protests at a donald trump rally, this one last night in kansas city, missouri. >>> kansas city brought more tough talk from donald trump and another night of protests. just hours after a man jumped over a barricade. >> tries to make a rush at me. i was ready. i don't know if i would have done well, but i would have been fighting, folks -- >> and at an airport in dayton. the secret service surrounded him. police say his name is thomas dumasimo. >> the secret service guys hit him like you would not believe. >> the comments come a night after trump canceled an appearance in chicago. protestors there squirmished inside and outside of the arena. >> this is a man who told his supporters to beat up the people in the crowd and he will pa

. >> and bernie sanders responding today to trump's claims that sanders supporters are part of the problem. disrupting trump events. >> at a rally in ohio, he has called you out. he says you ought to tell your supporters to stop coming and protesting at his rallies. what is your response? >> we have never, never once told anybody to do anything like that. the truth is, this guy really is a pathological liar. he says the first thing that comes to his mind. i guess he's referring to me as a communist. i think it's terribly important that trump tell his supporters that in america you don't go around beating up people who are protesting or who have a different point of view. he's got to start changing his rhetoric and not blame other people for the problems that he is causing. >> trump's republican rivals criticizing trump on the campaign trail with just days before crucial primaries. listen to how ted cruz, john kasich and marco rubio responded on saturday when asked whether they would still support trump if he were the republican nominee. >> my answer is the same, i committed at the outset.

bernie sanders speaking in phoenix, arizona. joining us from cleveland is former ohio state senator nina turner. in chicago, we are joined by geneva reed-veal, the mother of sandra bland, whose death last year in a texas jail cell followed a texas traffic stop which followed -- sparked a national protests. nichols.h us is john i want to go to geneva reed-veal first. talk about how the victory that you saw last night in your own state in illinois and this week that hillary clinton, even perhaps to her own surprise, experienced -- achieved, last night. geneva: good morning. thank you for having me. the victory was overwhelming. i am hillary excited this morning. when you think about a race that is so close, you were watching the television with your nails bitings and you are saying, come on, come on, come on. the excitement went on until 3:30 this morning. when you look at all of the sweeping that was done last evening, it puts you in a better position to say, we can do this, we can take her to the top. amy: nina turner, your resp

thank you, bernie sanders: fwoirn. -- thank you bernie sanders. we need someone who has bold leadership who understands with climate change, with health care, with education, with our future at stake that we need bold leadership from someone we can trust. someone who has stood up for justice his entire life. they have not listened to him, but we are. and we need to keep spreading that message, because people are voting against themselves. they are hurting themselves and their future. and we need to help them. we need to help them and each other, because this is about us. not me. it's not one person. it's not just a party. it's not the g.o.p. versus the d.n.c. this is about the 99% that is too big to fail against the 1%. so when i hear someone ask me, well, well, well, if it comes down to it, will you vote for the other candidate if it's trump? i say if you want to beat trump, vote bernie. we are playing chicken here. and we can't pull back. they are going to have to turn. that candidate is the ralph nader not bernie sanders. as an independent he i

bernie sanders will get five or six. she will add to her 200 delegate margin by about 20 by the time all of the votes are counted tonight. hillary clinton will gain in terms of her path to the nomination even though michigan is a huge setback because the sanders campaign is arguing for democrats to win in november they have to get those votes in the states of michigan. until she can do that there's not the same sense of inevitability about her nomination. this has been a big night on the republic side for donald trump. he has won 14 states in the nomination contest and number 13 tonight is michigan. donald trump won 36 to 24. this was a double digit margin. much wider than people had participated. it underscores the donald trump that agrees with bernie sanders in terms of being ingredients free trade and naft and transpacific partnership. that economic message is playing well in placements like michigan and you're seeing democratic cross-over voters who like what he is saying and they registered in the primary tonight. d

that's what bernie sanders says, too. what donald trump has supported for 20 years is socialized medicine, the federal cougovernt in charge of everyone's health care. it means if you're a senior, the government decide whether you get a hip replacement. >> he said he wants private health insurance, should, allowed without state boundary, go all around the country and let the insurance companies compete. he says he doesn't want socialized medicine. >> you're a good enough journalist you no he's said dozen and dozens of times on television he want the government to pay for everyone. in the last debate he ran away from that position and supported buying insurance across state lines, which i've been advocating for a long time. in his position for 20 years, he says, he is, quote, a liberal on health insurance, everyone should get health insurance, it should, mandatory and the government should pay for it. if the government pays for everyone's insurance, the government controls everyone's health care. that has been his position.

bernie sanders pay be five or six. that spread of 25 is important because look at what is happening to hillary clinton in michigan. bernie sanders has a 3 point edge that would suggest he will probably win maybe around 70 of the delegates if this holds up. this will be a humiliation of hillary clinton given the importance that she had placed on michigan over the last couple of days. bernie sanders' message about inincome equality, unfair trade, that is resonating with the people there. if you look at the overall candidates, in overall delegates, she is head of bernie sanders by about 200 in the overall delegate count, 699 to 478. this margin is larger than it was for obama and hillary clinton in the 2008 race. clinton people say there's no way bernie sanders can overcome this, with results like tonight, but the bernie sanders campaign saying she is a regional candidate, she can only win in the south and bernie sanders is proving that he is winning in a state that democrats have to have in november if they're going to d

bernie sanders needs to win by big, big margins. in california, for example, he would have to win by double digits. more than that to get over her in pledged delegates. the really only chance mathematically is to do well in wisconsin and do well here in new york. that is the next place, but the math is still a very, very big challenge. he would have to have some of those pledged delegates to come over at the end of the day. >> the superdelegates are so crucial. a lot of them were behind hillary clinton before anybody voted. they can switch. some of them did with barack obama. some being the operative word, but the sanders' campaign i know is saying to you that they have a lot of them who are ready to switch. do they and why are they waiting then? >> there's been a trickle. there's not been a ground swell. i think this is different than 2008. in 2008 some did switch. john lewis an example. i can't be on the wrong side of history. that argument is not the same this time. being with hillary clinton is not being on the wrong side of his

let me also play for you senator sanders drawing contrast on trade. another big issue as you know in your state. take a listen. >> i am very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton has discovered religion on this issue. but it's a little bit too late. secretary clinton supported virtually every one of these disastrous trade agreements, written by corporate america. [ applause ] nafta supported by the secretary cost us 800,000 jobs nationwide, tens of thousands of jobs in the midwest. permanent normal trade relations with china cost us millions of jobs. >> certainly you have constituents who worry about the impact of the trade deals she supported. >> sure. well, first let me say, and i think -- i guess i feel as a woman as well that she should be held accountable for her votes. you know, not her husband's, or somebody else's votes, and so on, regardless of whether or not she was, you know, supportive of her husband's presidency. the reality is, for her, the big vote was cafta, on the central america agreement. and she voted no. when she had the opportun

bernie sanders voted against the iraq war. he understands the cost of war; that that cost is continued when our veterans come home. bernie sanders will defend our country and take the trillions of dollars spent on these interventionist regime change unnecessary wars and invest it here at home. >> that's the argument from a very credible val dater on those military issues and in a week and time period where there's a big debate about how we deal with terrorism and donald trump saying less nato against the back drop of a republican race increasingly in the gutter and not about issues. >> you know, i think that also speaks to the power of the movement that has come from this. and again, as i was saying, as a continuum. i mean, we've always had an anti-war movement. that's why the vote in iraq war is so relevant. people are still realing from that war. and so, as long as you have that sentiment out there, someone like bernie sanders can not be hawkish, can be more dovish, as the bird seemed to suggest. people are saying the bird c

you could see she thought she was taking punches not only from senator sanders but a challenge from sanders as >> she did get some tough questions she seemed a little angry about it -- annoyed is really the word. at the end of the debate bernie sanders got hit with a video -- >> i want to acknowledge to our viewers what's going on. there's a lot of people who have been in the audience, who have gone up to the stage and they're yelling for bernie, some are yelling for hillary clinton. that's the noise you're hearing. we apologize for any conflict if you're hearing it, hard to hear. go gloria. >> what a boisterous audience here tonight. i think so he got hit with this video in which he was praising castro and he didn't sort of respond really. hillary clinton shot right back at him and said, you know, these are not the values that i want to see in this country. so she had a very good response on that. what struck me overall, though, is the republican party that's talking about mass deportation and you have two democratic candidates up there tonight who said no deportation. no deportation of ch

she has 204,000 votes to bernie sanders 125,000 votes. she has 60.5% to bernie sanders 36.9%. an impressive win for hillary clinton over bernie sanders. let's go over to john king and see what's going on as we await the other contests in utah and idaho. >> as impressive lead for donald trump. 61% of the expected vote in statewide. it's worth noting he doesn't show up on our board because he dropped out of the race, but marco rubio is getting about 17% of the vote. marco rubio because of the early voting running ahead of john kasich. you have a lot of people out there saying if you them up -- >> they voted for him before he dropped out. >> right. it's not the way it works. if you didn't have early voting would those votes have gone to cruz today, that's the conversation on social media, but you play by the rules and there was early voting and this is what we have tonight. an impressive donald trump victory. 58 delegates. there's 40 more in utah. look at the numbers. you pop up the largest county in the state. the sheriff was for donald trump. the former governor for donald trum

over bernie sanders. angela: of course, if we look at the historical situation, we know that her husband, bill clinton, was extremely popular in the black communities all over the country. he w w one of ththe most popular presidents before obama, perhaps the most popular president in the history of the country, except perhaps abraham lincoln. toni morrison called her are for -- in our first black president. angela: she did not exactly say that. what she was referring to wawas the fact that he did acknowledge black culture in ways that other presidents had not. a sense, you can say that there was a conscious appeal to in a way thaties his wife hillary clinton is not capable of developing. but yeah, we find ourselves in a very difficult situation. with bernie sanders being the alternative -- and bernie sanders, declaring himself a socialist and r raising a whole number of absolutely important -- putting pressure on her is good. on one hand, you have a candidate so relet to address -- reluctant to address ra

sanders has only 22 super delegates. for the republicans, ted cruz is trying to chip away at donald trump's delegate lead, within striking distance of the front runner. a poll out this morning shows trump still in command of the race, although his support has dropped since december. the new i abc news "washington post" poll shows he has 38% support nationally among republicans. cruz follows with 25%. rubio with 18% and john kasich trails with 13%. we're watching all of this go down today. we are watching all of the delegate totals. again, michigan is a key contest for both parties today. 59 delegates are at stake. republicans 130. polling stations have been open for several hours. jean casarez is joining us from warren, michigan, not far from detroit. what's the latest over there? >> reporter: wolf, it's fascinating here. it's been a steady stream of voters and the history of warren, michigan leads to interest here. first of all, this is the midwest. we are getting the pulse of not only michigan but the heart of the auto

also among independents breaking for bernie sanders, young people breaking for bernie sanders. how does hillary clinton appeal to that without changing who she is as a candidate? >> i think you've hit on it is that hillary clinton can't change who she is because she's such a known entity. she was a free trader and she pushed the trade deals. voters who are very into the trade issue don't buy that and because of hillary clinton's problems with trust worthiness they doubt her position on trade. she's really stuck on that one. for donald trump it's a different situation because he's for free trade and pro-fair trade so it's like he prefers chocolate and van ilnilla. so donald trump has got the free traders and fair traders and not explaining how he plans to do that at all. >> policy and donald trump, maybe it will come up in thursday night's debate. >> coming up, hillary clinton went big against bernie sanders on the auto bailout. did that backfire on her in michigan. we have more next. at mfs investment management, we believe in the power of active management. by debating our res

let me also play for you senator sanders drawing contrast on trade. another big issue as you know in your state. take a listen. >> i am very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton has discovered religion on this issue. but it's a little bit too late. secretary clinton supported virtually every one of these disastrous trade agreements, written by corporate america. [ applause ] nafta supported by the secretary cost us 800,000 jobs nationwide, tens of thousands of jobs in the midwest. permanent normal trade relations with china cost us millions of jobs. >> certainly you have constituents who worry about the impact of the trade deals she supported. >> sure. well, first let me say, and i think -- i guess i feel as a woman as well that she should be held accountable for her votes. you know, not her husband's, or somebody else's votes, and so on, regardless of whether or not she was, you know, supportive of her husband's presidency. the reality is, for her, the big vote was cafta, on the central america agreement. and she voted no. when she had the opportun

sanders is doing very well there. and we can just show you very quickly, where does the counting stand right now in wayne county? a 34,000-vote lead for hillary clinton, 75% of the vote is in. if you extrapolate that -- that's a big if, but if you extrapolate that and she wins the rest of the county at the same rate she's winning it now, she will net an additional 7,000 votes out of wayne county. she is losing statewide right now by just under 30,000 votes, so that's if you netted -- if you keep going at the current rate. so, he needs probably a bigger margin as that vote comes in. >> steve kornacki, thank you. the michigan race right now, again, 92% of the vote in, 50%-48% with bernie sanders in the lead. this is still considered too close to call. in michigan for us tonight, the great chris matthews. chris? >> thank you, rachel. i'm bringing in rhonda romney mcdaniel, the republican chair of the whole state of michigan. your uncle's very much involved in this stop trump movement, right? >> yes. >> is that fair to sa

the character of hank on larry sanders was before i knew the larry sanders show, but hank made me fall in love with his work is this this is how i use he now in this sentence. you say of course my side kick hank. >> of course my side kick hank. >> hey now. >> no, i prefer you not do it on the show anymore. it gets on my nerves. it gets on the audiences' nerves as well. >> no. >> hank. >> you're not out there and believe me it's very big with the audience and i'm going to tell you something else, i think it helps make the show work. it's part of our whole interplay. >> by interplay you mean the times when we're both awake. >> hey now. >> just cut down on it, could you do that, please? >> today jeffry said this. i am so sad. garry was my dear friend. he redesigned the wheeling of comedy and he was the kindness and funniest of genius. katherine who played the ex-wife on the show told me today he took comedy very serious. working with him in a scene was wonderful because anything you did he was open to. >> i want to thank them for returning the coach. >> it's on -- it's on a timer. wait a

bernie sanders had more than 30%. m.j., you've been doing some reporting on the clinton campaign, sort of the autopsy. michigan has only been over for a few hours, but they're trying to figure out what they did wrong. >> i think the bottom line is, campaigning hard matters. even in a state where the clinton campaign thought that they would do well, we saw signs that they were not campaigning as aggressive as they had in nevada or south carolina, for example. those count when people go to the polling stations. clinton only campaigned in places like detroit and flint, and neglected the other parts of the state. that's something the clinton campaign thinks could have hurt her. the clinton campaign now believes that perhaps the former secretary of state started focus on the general election a little too much. she didn't remain focused on many of the democratic nominations. and you could tell in her tone she was aiming her rhetoric at donald trump. often not naming him but it's clear who she was talking about, and letting

donald trump, and bernie sanders. and i even met someone at the cafe earlier today, a member of the aflcio and he's a trump supporter he says bernie sanders is close behind. and the issue that's resonating with them is nafta. trade. and jobs. and both of those candidates, especially donald trump, is hitting it that issue extremely well. >> the tone of the campaign, affect them at all? do they even bring that up? >> they did a little bit. they said yes, i wish his tone was not as aggressive. and this was -- when i was in lorraine county this was before these -- violence broke out and protests the past couple of days. but, yes, they said it was a concerning factor. but they think he's very tough. they think -- they believe that he is going to bring their jobs back and that he's going to remake all these trade deals. and that's what they're looking for more than his rhetoric and more than his tone. >> i think when you talk to some of his supporters, they also fall in line behind him when he puts the blame on others, incl

sanders with a pretty healthy lead here. sanders maybe some more votes here in the further out suburbs, hillary clinton in the city and when you bring in the whole state, you are see we have a very competitive contest. votes for her to be had in two places where you have a higher population center but we're going right down to the wire. >> it could still go either way in missouri. let's do illinois on the democratic side right now. 90% of the vote is in. hillary clinton maintains her lead, 50.7% to 48.4 for sanders. >> let's use the slide bar. you move down to springfield here, 63% of the vote, an area where sanders is doing quite well, some votes missing here. these are very small counties here, half a percent of the vote in. if you double that, he's looking at another 20, 30 votes to add to his lead here. but when the race is this close, count everything. down here, 88% again. hillary clinton with a bit of a lead here. then the biggest pool of votes missing is still right up here in the chicago area, though we're at 95% in

so sanders can get his margin up there and the other wild card for bernie sanders and if you're a sanders person this is what you're hoping, this is where the university of michigan is and eastern michigan, you're hoping the precincts in this county you're hoping this is university of michigan, eastern michigan, you're hoping those are college precincts. those are the variables right now. >> to close to call right now in michigan. if you're a bernie sanders supporters all the purple on that map looks very exciting to you and keep in mind that the delegates tonight in michigan will be both of candidates are going to get a similar numbers of earned delegates out of michigan. joining us from cleveland is a bernie sanders supporter who you know it's nina turner. a high-profile supporter of bernie sanders. thanks for being with us. >> you have to be heartened looked at these michigan results tonight thinking about what's going to happen next week in ohio. what's your perception as a sanders supporter of this too-close to call race tonight in michigan. >> we are excited as i am on the edge of m

sanders has a great comeback to that. he throws his hands up and says here are my wall street speeches. there are none. this is something that has continued to hamper her and calls her credibility on these issues into question which drives her crazy because she has so many specific policy proposals that she thinks are stronger than sanders. >> that was the democrats last night. that was the heat. that may be nothing compared to what we get tonight at the university of miami. in a few hours, the four remaining republicans running for president face-off. you can see the hall right there here at the university of miami. the cnn republican debate just a few hours away. give you a preview next. allo bt using your airline credit card miles. and surprise! those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, making it really hard to book the flight you want. luckily, there's a better way... with the capital one venture card. with venture, you'll earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day. and when you're ready t

senator sanders, i'm going here, say senator sanders wins 80-20. wins all of these states 80-20, he'll shave off her lead. this is where you bring in the superdelegates she has 482. senator sanders 27. everyone of these can switch their mind. senator obama started winning especially the black caucus members, the democratic mayors, african-american activists around the country, they went first. once obama became a credible candidate they switched and more switched. so yes, sanders supporters tonight like when we show this. hillary clinton has 482 right now. that's just a fact. they could change their mind. if he wins all today and comes this way and wins, that will start to shrink. that's called politics. >> for that to happen he needs to catch up and overtake her at the least come within spitting distance. >> yes. spitting distance is a good way. he needs to do -- obama got ahead of her. once it was clear she w not going to catch up they started switching to obama. what senator sanders needs to do is repeat this. he won michigan but remember, he wo