ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep. jordan: the only thing worse than not doing the budget is spending more money. you have to look at this in the real world context of the debt just hit $19 trillion. cbo reported six weeks ago this year's shortfall, this year's annual deficit will be $105 billion higher than expected. within that context, we said look, maybe we should not spend $30 billion more. maybe we should actually at least hold the line on spending to start to deal with the fiscal mess we are in. after all, every single-family, every single government, every single school district, township, city, state has to do that, but the one entity that does not just happens to be the one that has the $19 trillion debt. we think that would just become -- we would love to have

ms. werner: of course, you are from ohio. the governor of your state is one of the remaining candidates for president. you have not endorsed him. senator portman and other officials in your state have. why not? rep. jordan: well, look. i said this many times. we are having a whale of a fight equate it toys the quite it sports, in the semi finals. my attitude is you let them fight it out in the semi final and see who wins. whoever that is, knowing that it will likely be secretary clinton on the other side, we need to support whoever our nominee is. i do think it is interesting that in so many states some of the ones coming up maybe a little different, but in many of the states that have happened thus far, and we have had a lot of elections. whether it is primaries or caucuses, mr. cruz and mr. trump are sometimes getting as high as 80% of the vote. back to susan's question. that sort of shows this outsider antiestablishment movement is really strong, and i think it is a reflection of why those two are the ones who are in first

ms. werner: of course, you are from ohio. the governor of your state is one of the remaining candidates for president. you have not endorsed him. senator portman and other elected officials in your state have. why not? rep. jordan: well, look. i said this many times. we are having a whale of a fight, and i always equate it to sports, in the semi finals. my attitude is you let them fight it out in the semi final and see who wins. whoever that is, knowing that it will likely be secretary clinton on the other side, we need to support whoever our nominee is. i do think it is interesting that in so many states some of the ones coming up maybe a little different, but in many of the states that have happened thus far, and we have had a lot of elections. whether it is primaries or caucuses, mr. cruz and mr. trump are sometimes getting as high as 80% of the vote. back to susan's question. that sort of shows this outsider antiestablishment movement is really strong, and i think it is a reflection of why those two are the ones who are i

ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep.or

ms. you talk about the rules. in our tax code, we have 73,000 pages of rules and policies. is that fair? richard, thanks very much for the call. michael has this tweet. a reference to a congressman jim jordan said in the newsmakers excerpt we showed you a few minutes ago. it was put in place 2012 by the republican party. it essentially stopped ron paul from having his name in the nomination. every four years, the rules are put in place by the rnc and dnc. the rules committee will hold a meeting prior to the convention and there is a meeting in west palm beach, florida. it includes an open session on the rules process, something we will be watching closely. new york times editorial not looking at the process per se but overal elections overall. arizona where many voters had to hours to, or five vote. moving ahead in the deeply thought election system, everywhere in the country. next up is laura joining us from austin, texas, on the democrats line. good morning. >> good morning thomas -- ca