the support of david duke. why does pence have to use the word "deplorable"? >> first of all, remember donald trump didn't denounce the support of david duke so quickly during the primary season, as you recall. >> he did eventually. >> it took a couple of days. >> why does pence have to say deplorable? he said we don't want the support of david duke or anybody who thinks like david duke. >> people who think like david duke are deplorable. it's simple as that. he should have no problem saying it. if you are racist, my soj nis, a person who wants to say no muslims can come into the country, those are deplorable beliefs. the secretary was right about that. she was careless in characterizing one-half of trump supporters. she doesn't believe that, i don't believe that. i don't think any of us believe that. donald trump has stood by. did he denounce friday's conference where all the white supremacists said they think donald trump is the perfect candida candidate, i didn't hear him denounce them. the secretary is righ

pence did say the republican ticket does not want david duke's support. >> right. he has said that repeatedly. look, at the end of the day, jake, you know this is a road that the trump campaign does not want to go down again. you remember how much criticism took after the interview he did with you months ago when critics said he wasn't quick enough to disavow david duke's support. at the time he blamed it on not understanding the question on a faulty earpiece. at this point, at the stage in this game, they want the folks to be on hillary clinton and that "deplorable" comment that she made. that was part of the focus at his rally here today. donald trump is not letting hillary clinton off the hook for her basket of deplorables remark. >> while my opponent slanders you as deplorable, i call you hard-working american patriots who love your country and want a better future for all of our people. >> the gop nominee continuing to hammer his democratic rival for these comments on friday. >> you could put half of trump's supporters into what i call the basket of deplorable

the only reason david duke even has a platform is because cnn keeps talking about it. let me agree with something tim kaine said in that package there about if you ignore something it grows and gets worse. that's exactly right. that's exactly why we have isis today. for hillary clinton to call half of the people of this country deplorable, that's absolutely disqualifying her. it wasn't half of trump's supporters. she actually went after all of trump's supporters by saying half are those terrible names racist and sexist. she has essentially called out 100% of trump's supporters. but i will say this is typical of the elite politicians. and if you don't agree with them somehow you're a deplorable person and that's what hillary clinton thinks of half of america. >> she said she shouldn't have

i would say david duke is deplorable. mr. pence said he would not put him in that category as being deplorable. there are some americans by their actions and what they do -- >> -- denounced david duke, has denounced association with david duke, and he said he just wasn't going to get in the game of using the word that hillary clinton used and wasn't going to validate it by using that remark. >> the fact of the matter is, is david duke deplorable? the answer yes. should be yes for anyone right off their mouth. not to say as donald trump attempted to do during the primary. he claimed he didn't even know who david duke was. why? he wanted his support to help win the primary. so it is a deplorable act. so there's nothing wrong with telling the truth if you see something that's deplorable. dr. king once said if there's a good people are silent about deplorable acts of others, then you can fit in that category alsos. >> you think she should not apologize? >> i think what she said was appropriate. there are some. and i mean i know s

trying to make clear he denounces david duke. he may not use the same terminology as hillary clinton. says he's not a name caller. but really views it as a distinction without a difference. trying to denounce him. what he views as the strong et possible terms. what will be interesting to hear is whether or not paul ryan would also agree with that. he would call david duke deplorable. they did not take many questions. we weren't able to get that question to him. but clearly this was an effort by mike pence to show that the party is united behind the ticket. he was asked specifically also whether or not paul ryan's criticism of donald trump has hurt the top of the ticket. mike pence making clear that's fine. there are disagreements all the time within a party. and expressing his appreciation for paul ryan. a much different mood here in september than it was in july when donald trump came to meet with house republicans and one reason why, carol, poll numbers improving, helping those battleground states. republicans a little more con

but david duke is not deplorable, who is? that word ceases to have meaning if you didn't describe david duke in those terms. it took donald trump a very long time whether or not he disavowed david. he has a lot of white supremist supporters. >> hillary clinton has tweeted about that exchange saying -- complaining that he didn't call david duke deplorable. >> she said basically if you can't call the kkk deplorable, what can you call deplorable? i don't think that's going to be enough to erase what hillary clinton said. again, hillary clinton immediately came out to say i did something wrong. i used a word i shouldn't have. i regret that word. she made a foot fault on that and one i don't see the trump campaign letting their foot off the gas pedal on this one. >> hold your thoughts. more coming up, including troubling new details of russian interference in the u.s. election. will there be more cyber attacks? and a warning of a worst case scenario. is another north korean nuclear test imminent? cure cancer million? far off. live

david duke walked in, we walked out. that's been the policy of the republican party really ever since then. >> and so when it comes to what gop leaders and folks inside d.c. are thinking, ben, buzz feed had up an article saying the gop is suddenly terrified at the thought of trump winning. from the insiders and folks you're talking to -- we know pence was on the hill today to try to rally gop skeptics, but are you hearing that, that people are actually afraid that donald trump could win in november? >> look, i think some republicans are excited about that concept but the party's never been quite as divided, at least this i've seen in a presidential race. so, donald trump's modulation of tone is running up against things like the david duke incident. and that's sort of the tension point within the party. there are not many republicans who are saying hillary clinton would be a terrific president. in fact, you don't hear that very much. so, much like the country as a whole, there's a little bit of ambivalence about this ele

donald trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support and we don't want the support of people who think like him. >> you call him deplorable? >> i'm not in the name-calling business, wolf. you know me better than that. >> this morning asked to follow-up up on capitol hill. he said david duke was bad guy but wasn't going to get into the name-calling again. >> yeah. calling him a bad guy, but a form of name-calling? they don't want to give up this talking point of deplorable. the trump campaign. you'll see i think trump talk about it today. and you see them releasing ads on it. he doesn't want to use that phrase, deplorable, that word deplorable, to describe david duke, because they like this talking point. they think it does them good, energizing supporters and there's proof it energizing trump supporters as well as hillary clinton supporters. >> talk about name ca-calling, lot more believable if donald trump campaign didn't come up with crooked hillary. and his campaign, name-calling. a lot more defensible on mi

david duke only matters to the media. i don't think regular americans give a hoot about him or his nonsense he spews out of his mouth. if he happens to support mr. trump, we did not endorse him. >> the campaign over the last day or so, few days rather since secretary clinton made those comments, you guys have really been taking her to task for her choice of words, the language and there are a lot of folks who would point to the irony of the trump campaign taking issue with something that another major party candidate has said. the comments made about judge curiel or megyn kelly and blood coming from whatever and rapists, drug dealers, we could go on and on. how can you throw stones when you live in a glass house? >> listen, it's a fair question, and i think i've tried to be transparent with you in all my interviews and admit when i think he made mistakes. i think it's a mistake generally to take on anybody except for hillary clinton. we should just focus on the opposition in this race, but there's a big difference between

take a look. >> donald trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support, and we don't want the support of people who think like him. >> will you call him a deplorable? >> i'm not in the name calling business. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell is in washington, d.c. following the story for us. kelly, what's been the response to these comments? >> reporter: this is the kind of thing where politicians know there is treacherous ground. on the one hand, if they don't distance themselves from particularly volatile comments, that can be problematic. on the other hand, reluctant to adopt the language of their opponent. in this case, the word deplore nl used by hillary clinton. mike pence is back here in washington on very familiar turf, where just alt the edge of capitol hill where he served for dozens of years, meeting with his current colleagues and former friends, people he has dealt with over the years in politics for private conversations that talk about the campaign season for all of them and certainly the impact of some of the things that

david duke is a jerk and i can't stand any of this stuff. there are bigger fish to fry and issues in the campaign. trump is really pulled even in the polls both nationally and the key states. i don't know what this is all about. this is silliness and just blast the guy out of the woods. >> the white suburbanites and the grads that usually vote republican, especially women, we are not saying that. and rebates for those who are not paying federal taxes. as a small government conservative, how can you look at that? >> compassionate conservative. it's a combination of deductions that are capped at some point for various child care forms and increase in the earned income tax credit which is refundable to the areas. it's important. parenting is very important and it may not be the most perfect policy, but it's ivanka trump is going for single women, married women, people at home and people who go to work and she is dead right on that. the motives are terrific. >> we put the number up and he is down 26 points in the most recent poll with college-ed

david duke said it's good to see pence start to reject this absolute controlled media. the daily stormer, a neo naug s naughtsi website said trump chose a solid guy to back him up. doesn't it make you unable -- uncomfortable to hear praise from people like that? >> no. what is awful is when the father of a terrorist supports the nominee for the president of the united states. people who want to control immigration are labeled racists and bigots. people who -- i know hillary clinton and a lot of her friends don't live on aa border state ad don't have to live with the impact of immigration like many of us do. to insult them based on insinuation is absurd. we can say look at people supporting hillary clinton. burning american flags. defacing public property. >> no one has called people who don't want isis to move into their neighborhood islamaphobic. that has never happened in the history of the world? >> that is absolutely what they are talking about. if you speak out against -- >> no. people call people who hate muslims islamaphobic. but people don't say that about peopl

denounce david duke. wants to denounce david duke, doesn't want the supporters of david duke to support donald trump. but he refused to use the word "deplorable," which is the word that hillary clinton came out with. her basket of deplorables. you said he didn't want to use the word because it was a hillary clinton word. >> i think he said that for himself today up on capitol hill when he was visiting with republicans there and asked about this. the campaign, as you can tell now, it has been two solid days out on the campaign trail for donald trump hitting this message. this is their -- they see that hillary clinton has handed them a weapon in this campaign battle right now and they plan to use it every single day against her. so what they don't want to do is muddy that by owning the word "deplorable." obviously they disavowed him. they say they don't want his support. he is also coming into criticism. the clinton campaign is playing it up that he refuses to liabab david duke, a clearly deplorable person,

duke -- david duke has no place in this party. i'm still waiting on hillary clinton to renounce the kkk grand dragon in california who's endorsed her. i'm waiting for her to be asked those same questions and renounce that support. it is -- i'm still waiting for her to renounce her support for robert byrd, her mentor, who was a kkk grand master -- >> she's apologized for that. >> when he says he has to place in our poe-- david chal oian wa saying, one of the reasons they want the word, deplorable, to be associated with hillary clinton. he didn't want to take that on. do you buy that or take some more motive -- >> here's an opportunity for the trump campaign once again to disavow david duke. >> he did. >> no. no, he didn't. >> he was asked -- >> he didn't even know who he was. i mean, you know what, that should disqualify you for running for president if you don't know who david duke is, period. former grand wizard of the kkk. reaching out to african-americans? >> he's disavowed two dozen times. what disqualifies a candidate who say

mike pence refuses to call david duke deplorable. sunlen serfaty is live. >> reporter: the trump campaign trying to keep the spotlight focused squarely on hillary clinton's gaffe. trump elevating this really one step farther last night at his rally. he called up a group of supporters on the stage to give testimonials as it why they think they are not deplorable. here's trump last night. >> after months of hiding from the press, hillary clinton came out and finally told the world how she feels about the people of this country. she said tens of millions of patriotic americans are a basket of deplorables. how can you be president -- how can you be president for so many people? she talks about people like they're objects, not human beings. >> now, the trump campaign tries to go on the offensive on this. his running mate mike pence is really causing them to have to play some defense. pence getting a little heat for his interview yesterday on cnn when he was asked about some of the support their campaign has attracted from white nationalis

we do not want the support of david duke. what language can we say we denounce we do not want david duke's support? wait a second. you said that is a deplorable view, right? that's a bad view, that blacks are more violent than whites. 49% of trump supporters believe that. that's a problem. >> i'm going to believe a random poll that we don't know how it was phrased or who was asked? were those trump supporters? i'm not going to believe the poll. >> how about this, can we talk about the muslim ban? >> sure. >> okay. the muslim ban, right? >> yes. >> again, she used the term islam mo phobic. and trump said that was deplorable. a majority of the trump supporters support the muslim ban. that's part of what got him -- >> i reject the notion that you call it a muslim ban. what do you mean by that? >> he said we need to ban all muslims until we figure out what is going on. those were his words. >> no. the current plan is to limit immigration from nation whereas there is a terrorism issue or a connection. that was not a -- >> does fra

donald trump and i have denounced david duke repeatedly. we said we do not want his support and we do not want the support of people who think like him. and yesterday, i was asked a question about that and i repeated that. and the simple fact is that i'm not in the name calling business. my colleagues in the house of representatives know i believe civility is essential. >> not much different than what the governor said last night. here's what he said. >> donald trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support and we don't want the support of people who think him. >> you would call him a deplorable. >> not in the name-calling business. you know me better than that. >> our correspondents have the latest on what's happening with the campaigns. let's go to kelly o'donnell first on capitol hill. we anticipated governor pence would take this question. a lot of smiles amongst that group, i should note, with speaker ryan for the first time looking happy to discuss what's happening. usually avoids the question about donald trump,

david duke is abhorrent. david duke is a terrible person. he could say all of those things if he doesn't want to use the word deplorable because he wants to hang that on hillary clinton? >> look, i think he's been extremely clear in the fact that he does not want to be associated with david duke in any way. he doesn't want his support. we don't want people that think like david duke's support. i guess i don't understand how much more clear you can be on this issue to say we don't want you. and i think that's far more strong and aggressive than name calling, and certainly far more important. >> what do you think that colin powell means when he says donald trump appeals to the worst angels of the gop nature? >> you know, i think that colin powell is making a big mistake. he's attacking tens of millions of americans and i'm sorry that i just can't buy into the fact that you can be the leader of our country when you think that tense of millions of americans, moms, teachers, veterans, police officers, that are deplorable people are the worst part

duke because david duke's people are mike pence voters. >> there's two things happening here. one level you're seeing real partisan sorting happening. the polls show it. clinton's and trump's numbers are going up to normal levels with their party. republicans and democrats. at the same time you've activated this sort of ugly core of we don't know how big they are but white supremacists, neo-nazis, et cetera. now everyone's in the same boat. they always were, right? but all of the distancing from trump has essentially gone away. and so the question of like how this ends up affecting the republican party as a brand becomes pretty interesting. because it used to be, oh, there's trump and then there's the okay republicans. increasingly those distinctions are getting collapsed. >> they should. >> your argument from the beginning. >> yes. not like he appeared miraculously from the sky and became the nominee. he was elected the republican nominee. his ring has been kissed for years. john boehner said on this network, it's not my job to tell members of my caucus not to push a bill tha

what do you make of the fact that he wouldn't call david duke deplorable. >> david duke is deplorable and everyone understands that. i don't know what the thought process is there, but i know he thinks that. he is deplorable, period. let's get back to. >> is it problematic that governor pence wouldn't say it? >> i am not going to comment because i was not there and didn't hear an exact question and i am not going to comment for him. he is doing a great job. this conferms what we think she thinks of us. a fly over america. the dismissal and the classic clinton mo of demonizing your opponents. this is what she does. this is what they do. we will see if it works. this poll doesn't bother me at all. this comment was just made. >> it didn't bother you that 60% of americans think your candidate is racist or sexist. it doesn't bother you? >> i know he is not so of course it does, but the fact is this campaign is playing itself out. allegedly 60% of people think that, but the polls are tied. the polls in florida today has donald trump up by 4. i'm not sure that was so reliable. to the extent

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david duke and his organization. come on. >> so the media accuses him of being friend with david duke. it ends up he doesn't know david duke. then he's attributed to because david duke says something positive about donald trump's positions. you know what, there are all facets of americans from the liberal to the conservative end that like donald trump's message in some way, some portion of his message. he's speaking the truth to the american people. one of his problems early on in this race was that the republican right was concerned about donald trump because he want the textbook candidate. donald trump is going to be the president for all americans. he doesn't necessarily just toe the party line. he's trying to fix america and we need it badly. >> guy, respond to this, specifically the point john was bringing up that the reason a lot of people latched on to what hillary clinton said, half of donald trump's supporters go into the basket of deplorables, she was talking about voters there. that's something you don't t

said that david duke is deplorable. >> sure. so he doesn't get headlines saying mike pence get headlines say donald trump is deplorable. >> obviously she meant to see david duke and not donald trump. >> our nightly political panel is here. aaron blake and npr political correspondent mara liasson. welcome to both of you. is it really possible that this comment of hers about the basket of deplorables could be turned to her advantage? mara? >> i don't know if it can be turned to her advantage. the democrats aren't terribly worried about it. first of all they agreer with h maybe not on the half, the full 50%. they agree there are a lot of deplorables supporting donald trump and they are fine with hillary clinton pointing that out. as a matter of fact it, certain solid a better subject than the emails of the foundation. >> yeah, what about that, aaron? is that line of attack that -- you shouldn't vote for donald trump, basically because there are odious people who support him. is that, first of all, is it -- does it work and second i

donald trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support, and we don't want the supt (wolf) "you call him a deplorable, you would call him." (gov. mike pence / (r) vice presidential nominee) "no, i don't - i'm not in the name-calling business, wolf. you know me better than that." ((brian loftus)) >> clinton blasted pence's response, tweeting: "if you won't say the k-k-k is deplorable, you have no business running the country." clinton and trump will be going head to head in their first presidential debate in less than two weeks. ((kirsten joyce)) >>> in one month unlv will host the third and final presidential debate this fall. and tomorrow they'll be holding a pep rally on campus for the the rally will be held at the big event. the rally will be held at the alumni amphitheatre outside the student union on unlv's main campus, it will be going on from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. and the presidential debate will be at the thomas & mack center, on october 19th./// ((kirsten joyce)) >>> 8 news now is your local election h

duke, what's david duke like? he's deplorable. >> what parent doesn't answer that question. >> this isn't like third grade, nanny, nanny poo poo. >> name-calling exists. it gets a bad wrap but it exists for david duke. >> he has recently called donald trump a menace who could, quote, even provoke a third world war. former president of mexico vicente fox has that and other observations of the republican nominee for president. he joins us live in just a moment. is it a caregiver determined to take care of her own? or is it a lifetime of work that blazes the path to your passions? your personal success takes a financial partner who values it as much as you do. learn more at tiaa.org yoyeah, i do.e? you guys are working on some pretty big stuff over there, right? like a new language for crazy-big, world-changing machines. well, not me specifically. i work on the industrial side. so i build the world-changing machines. i get it. you can't talk because it's super high-level. no, i actually do build the machines. blink i

donald trump and i have denounced david duke repeatedly. i'm also not going to validate the language hillary clinton used to describe the american people. he wasn't talking about that bad man. she was talking about people all across this country who are coming out in record numbers to stand by donald trump. >> and again today david duke talked about you specifically. are you concerned that there is something about the trump/pence candidacy that draws them to you? >> look, we live in a free country and people of ill motives can associate themselves with politics. there are two people on the ballot here. hillary clinton and donald trump. one of them is going to be president of the united states of america. and i would submit to you this is all a distraction. >> kelly o'donnell is on capitol hill where she was talking to mike pence. kelly, how does this play out? >> reporter: well, for governor mike pence, this is a sttest of how he can maintain himself, his style, his way of campaigning and knowing these sorts of questions would come. he does

is david duke deplorable? when they say no, because they don't want to use the clinton language, they will get hit with headlines of mike pence refuses to call david duke deplorable. that is a good thing for the clinton campaign. nicolle: there is one answer. is david duke deplorable? yes. this is mind a boggling to me. supporters is a mistake. the people she needs to convert are the ones who share concerns about her as well. the people in the bandwagon, they think donald trump contains plenty of deplorable's. the people she needs to convert, they are not warming up to her when they hear her maligned. needs to fire up her own base. she may be taking time off the campaign trail and letting super surrogates pick up the slack for her, despicable the slack for her -- pick up the slack for her. two questions about her opponent's lack of transparency. you knowe everything about me with my opponent. have a medical report on me that meets the same standard as mitt romney and barack obama. donald trump said he would be

is david duke deplorable? when they say no, because they don't want to use the clinton language, they will get hit with headlines as pence has been, of refusing to call david duke deplorable. that is a good thing for the clinton campaign. off-topic, deplorables is a great name for a band. there is literally one answer. is david duke deplorable? yes. yes. leep yes. but this is mind-boggling to me. taking on trump supporters is a mistake. the people who agree with her are already voting for her. the people she needs to convert are the ones who share concerns about her as well. she needs to bring around moderate voters who are not on the clinton and wagon. the people in the bandwagon --ieve clinton's base trump's base contains plenty of deplorables, but people she needs to convert, they are not warming up to her when they hear her maligned. john: she needs to fire up her own base. clinton may be taking time off the campaign trail and letting super surrogates pick up the slack for her, but she did have time to cal

trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support. >> you called him a deplorable. >> no, i'm not in the name-calling business. >> this is "new day" with chris comeau and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." cnn exclusive. hillary clinton speaking out the first time about her pneumonia saying she didn't think it was going to be that big a deal. transparency is the issue for both campaigns. what do you have the right to know about these two people? >>> meanwhile, donald trump seizing on the clinton statement about basket of deplorables. we are only 13 days to the first debate. we have the high stakes race covered for you. let's begin with jeff zeleny. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. she could return tomorrow at a speech in philadelphia. now she's acknowledging she could have been more forthcoming to avoid suggestions she was hiding something about her health. few people knew she had pneumonia which made it difficult to react but now they are reacting. she bluntly told cnn last night

when you're talking about getting david duke support -- >> he doesn't have david duke support. he doesn't want david duke support. >> when you have people at his rallies who are talking about white power, we've seen this footage saying, yelling white power. when you have confederate flag -- >> you have at a hillary clinton rally directly behind her the father of the largest mass murderer in the state of florida's history. >> that was one -- >> she accountable for him? >> let me bring in stuart and gloria. stuart, i mean, clearly this has taken the attention away from what hillary clinton said on friday about half the trump supporters being this basket of deplorables. >> well, it's an eloquent theory that she got sick to take the -- >> of course not. it wasn't intentional, but -- >> i -- i -- you know, listen, campaigns usually aren't affected by these stories one way or the other. we talk about the 47% story. it was a big story. there's really no evidence when you look at it, if it hadn't happened that mitt romney would have won. you know, when you get in these campaigns, you h

donald trump has denounced david duke repeatedly. we don't want his support or the support of people who think like him. >> you bo call him a deplorable? >> i'm not in the name calling business, wolf. >> later on fox news pence said of that interview, they wanted me to start using terms that hillary uses. so, steve, is that the issue, using hillary-like words rather than your own words, or is it he doesn't want to condemn somebody like david duke? >> i don't know how many times the campaign, donald trump and all of us need to say we denounce david duke for the mainstream media to believe it. do we have it to beat him senseless on live air? is that the only way people are going to believe we denounce -- david duke endorsed donald trump. we don't support that at all. quite the opposite, and i'm very proud of trump for this. we're making a very deliberate and intentional outreach to african-americans and hispanic americans to try to tell them that we have answers for the problems that are plaguing their communities and we humbly and res

is david duke deplorable? and when they say no, because they don't want to use the clinton language, they'll get hit with headlines, as pence has been, as, mike pence refuses to call david duke deplorable. that also is a good thing for the clinton campaign. >> off-topic here, but don't you think the deplorable, i always think it's a good name for a band. let me say this on mike pence. there's no other answer. there's literally one answer. in multiple choice, there's one answer, is david duke deplorable, yes. yes. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] yes. so this is mind boggling to me. but i think taking on trump supporters is a mistake, because all of the people who agree with her are already voting for her. and the people she needs to convert are ones who share some pretty grave concerns about her as well. so she needs to bring around moderate voters who are not on the clinton bandwagon. the people in the bandwagon, yeah, they think trump's base contains plenty of deplorables. but the people she needs to convert to win state

that isn't the media tying david duke to the party. >> donald trump can't control what david duke tweets out. nobody can, but you know, i'm not going to sit here and tell you that there's zero support, zero and zero avowment of what he represents. let's be very, very clear about that. >> so let me ask you, when trump said and you just heard him there in trump's piece, to keep immigration levels within historical norms, what is he saying? >> because historically that would mean that you're going to preserve a white country if it changes and you have more people who are not white, and this country could become white unless you have the population shared within historical norms. is that a white supremacist thing to say? >> i don't know the details so you've got me on that one there, but what i will tell you is just looking at immigration flow into this country and how many we bring in every year and all of the different countries that people are coming from, i think one of the things that came out of donald trump's speech last night, one of the points they think is really important is these

duke and the campaign has repeatedly denounced david duke and david duke is a racist, he's not deplorab deplorable. >> he could be both. >> he could be both. >> let me get joe in, because some in the media reacted and i want to play a little sound here, by kind of defending the point hillary clinton was making about trump supporters. let's roll that. >> did she actually need to apologize for that? when you think about many of the architects behind the trump campaign who come from the alt-right universe, one could say her deplorable. >> as a matter of statistics, it's probably true people expressing racist sentiment constitute more than half of trump supporters. >> so we're hearing a lot of, yeah, hillary clinton was right, by people in the press who think half or more of donald trump supporters are terrible people. >> i don't think -- who knows how many are. that's what got her in the whole trouble in the first place. >> you've been in campaigns, is it smart to attack the opponent's voters when those voters may be tens of millions of americans? >> it's not, but one of the things that sl

we respect. >> do you respect david duke? you can call him deplorable? >> we don't call anyone irredeemable. not even david duke. he is redeemable. every son and daughter of god is redeemable ultimately. i hope he will be redeemable. >> there you go. david crumb, let me come to you. this is taking place within the context of a conservative movement. this idea that there won't be anyone outside the boundaries he said as a child of god. even the alt right. even the david dukes somehow redeemable will keep them off to the side. we won't absolutely denounce them. is that -- >> he has denounced them. >> is that healthy for the conservative movement? i i think chris said something that puts this into context we need to understand, which is, on the conservative side, we experience a world of shrinking permission to say things. and in with the world in which you say something like a woman that has a womb is considered as provocative as david duke's clan speech or holocaust denial. so what is -- as the demands of speech limitation on campus and other places have

duke is denounced and his support is rejected and the support of those who think about david duke. >> so none of this matters what colin paul is sayiowell is sayi? >> he's a private citizen. >> let's talk about that -- i'm getting like oh, my god because i hate debating like this. i truly do. i do. i apologize. i'm just trying to get answers for the voters so they can make the best decision. so bernard, i will move to you. mr. powell does not spare your candidate, hillary clinton, either. he writes quote, hillary's mafia keeps trying to suck me into the e-mail controversy. it sounds to me like the clinton camp desperately wanted powell's help on this and didn't get it but did it anyway. >> you know what i think was most telling about colin powell's remarks regarding hillary clinton and the e-mail server? he said something i actually agree with. two years ago she should have gotten out in front of this, said it was a mistake and completely moved on. the fact is, colin powell criticizes her for the handling of the e-mails --. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> the reason she did not do tha

the media keeps dropping david duke's name. we don't want his support and we don't want the support of people who think -- >> you had called him deplorable. >> no, i'm not in the name-kulg business, what you did. the millions of people who support donald trump are not a bat kes of anything and had he respect -- >> she said she regretted saying half. she said half, obviously, but she's walked that path. >> well, did she walk it back? >> she said she regretted it. >> she said she regretted saying half. so what was it, 40%? she has insulted millions of americans. and her answer to that is to regret the math that she used. she has not apologized for this statement, she has not retracted this statement, and i really question her ability to run this country and reach out to americans having expressed this statement and not apologize for it with qualifications. i have to tell you, i'm out campaigning each and every day. the people supporting donald trump across the country are hard-working moms, and for her to make this sweeping gener

duke is deplorable. >> i would say david duke is -- is -- >> deplorable! >> is un-american. >> but why wouldn't you use that word? >> because it's hillary's word. >> because it's hillary's word. i would use something far worse that i can't say on national television. >> okay. >> let's talk about this one. this is what i find not mystifying, but, i don't know. this country had 250 years of slavery, legalized a slavery, before we had a country, we had slavery. we had is 100 years of jim crow. whatever's been since, which hasn't been perfect on racial stuff. now we have two parties arguing on who's better on race? it strikes me as odd that one party says, we're pure perfect and the other side's no damned good. i don't think it's true. i don't think people are that simple. and i don't think partisan label defines your views about humanity. >> absolutely right. and all three of those points, you are spot on. because this type of discussion becomes a side bar discussion, because it doesn't go to what you actually articulated at the very beginning, who we are as

pence have disavowed david duke. they didn't endorse david duke. david duke made some kind comments about trump. you can't keep freedom saying things about you. it doesn't mean the admiration is both ways. let me tell you something. association, the old-fashioned mccarthyism is what hillary is doing it's disgusting and it's revolting. what hillary did is call half of trump supporters deplorable. there are a lot of us who would proudly wear the label deplorable of what she is talking to are people who believe in old fashions american values that she apparently once believed. liz rsh i do want your final poin never been heard of get that appointment without a contribution? you can bet there is no way this would ever happen. it comes to the fact that the clintons have played a game if you pay, they play. liz: thank you, governor mike huckabee. turning to more tightening polls. we have a brutal -- it's tough for the clinton campaign to see this new batch of polls. it shows donald trump winning against hillary clinton in some key swing states. in ohio d

repeatedly denounced david duke. we have said that we don't want his support. we don't want the support of people who think like david duke. the media continues to scamper after this. the question that i got on another network was, do you call him deplorable? i get it. they wanted me to start using terms that hillary uses. you have known me a long time. i don't play that game. but we have denounced david duke repeatedly. we will continue to do that again. for hillary clinton to literally -- it wasn't just basket of deplorables, but to say that millions of americans were irredeemable, were not american and then to call them racists, sexists, home phobic, islamaphobic, what you saw there in a prepared -- it's important your viewers understand that. this wasn't an off the cuff remark. this was a statement as part of a prepared speech. this basket of deplorables is a line she used one other time before. >> was it worse than the mitt romney 47% comment? >> i think her decision to smear monica lewins millions of americans

denounced david duke. we deplore regional, everything that david duke stands for. >> reporter: pence also responded to news that secretary of state colin powell's personal e-mail was hacked. he allegedly wrote that trump is a national disgrace and an international pariah >> i absolutely don't agree with his assessment of my running mate. >> reporter: colin powell didn't just complain about donald trump. he took swipes at hillary clinton, writing everything she touches she screws up, that is a quote. trump and pence both said they wish clinton well and hook forward to her returning tomorrow to the campaign trail. reporting live in the stat center. david spunt cbs3 "eyewitness news." >>> house democrats are seeking a justice department investigation of the trump foundation. trump gave a 25 thousand dollars dose nation from the foundation to florida attorney general pam based on di in 2013 as her office was considering an investigation into trump university. the new york attorney general is looking into the p

trump and i have repeatedly denounced david duke. we have said that we don't want his support. we don't want the support of people who think like david duke. the media continues to scamper after this. the question that i got on another network was, do you call him deplorable? i get it. they wanted me to start using terms that hillary uses. you have known me a long time. i don't play that game. but we have denounced david duke repeatedly. we will continue to do that again. for hillary clinton to literally -- it wasn't just basket of deplorables, but to say that millions of americans were irredeemable, were not american and then to call them racists, sexists, home phobic, islamaphobic, what you saw there in a prepared -- it's important your viewers understand that. this wasn't an off the cuff remark. this was a statement as part of a prepared speech. this basket of deplorables is a line she used one other time before. >> was it worse than the mitt romney 47% comment? >> i think her decision to smear monica lewins millions of americans

denounced david duke. we deplore regional, everything that david duke stands for. >> reporter: pence also responded to news that secretary of state colin powell's personal e-mail was hacked. he allegedly wrote that trump is a national disgrace and an international pariah >> i absolutely don't agree with his assessment of my running mate. >> reporter: colin powell didn't just complain about donald trump. he took swipes at hillary clinton, writing everything she touches she screws up, that is a quote. trump and pence both said they wish clinton well and hook forward to her returning tomorrow to the campaign trail. reporting live in the stat center. david spunt cbs3 "eyewitness news." >>> house democrats are seeking a justice department investigation of the trump foundation. trump gave a 25 thousand dollars dose nation from the foundation to florida attorney general pam based on di in 2013 as her office was considering an investigation into trump university. the new york attorney general is looking into the p

david duke. we don't want his support and we don't want the support of people who think like him? i'm not in the name calling business, wolf. >> the clinton campaign jumped on pence's response. if you won't say the kkk is deplorable, you have no business running the country. >>> and president obama is set to visit philadelphia today campaigning for hillary clinton. this is the first time he has done that without clinton at his side. and while in pennsylvania, the president will promote voter registration. that state seen as a keen prize as the race for the white house. latest poll shows clinton with a six--point lead over donald trump. >>> sharp criticism over donald trump he accuses janet yellen yellen saying she is keeping interests low to protect obama's legacy. >> she is keeping them artificially low to keep obama retired. i think she is very political and should she be ashamed. >> the federal reserve is independent of the white house. it acts independent of all three branches of government.

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will is also david duke tweeting out pepe the frog supporting david duke. there is pepe the frog again as donald trump and his wall on the southern border. this is from yesterday. donald trump kissing pepe the frog. so it's weird. it's deliberately weird. it's meant to be an unmistakable symbol that won't blend in any where. it started as an an dine them and they have taken it over as a white supremacist symbol. when he called out extremists supporting trump, the racist and anti-semitic try today turn it into a badge of honor. look carefully at all of the heads there. donald trump flanked by each of his sons, eric on the left side of your screen, don jr., also mike pence just to the left of trump. there is chris christie, rudy julian i giuliani. you can see ben carson there. noeks the race cyst abuse guy from info wars that says sandy hook was fake and so was 9/11 and beside him and rudy giuliani, there is the frog. it's like donald trump and his team, we have got your back. all of your family, your super far right crazy conspiracy racist media buddies, we