gary johnson: absolutely. >> [indiscernible] gary johnson: there we go. thank you. >> i have been getting pictures of all the candidates this week. gary johnson: [indiscernible] all right. great. thank you. i will see if i can't make arrangements to have you come to my work. i will see what i can do. thank you. i like what i heard. >> it's great to be shaking hands with the next president of the united states. think positive. gary johnson: oh yeah -- oh, yeah. you know, you've gotten a few of these signatures. nk.'ve got, like, 12, i thi >> [indiscernible] thank you so much for being here. how did you get roped into this? >> [indiscernible] gary johnson: well, i appreciate it. and thank you for being here. there you go. a lifelong iowan. i really appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you for coming to iowa. gary johnson: all right. thank you. >> thank you. >> can i have your autograph? [indiscernible] >> i'm doing -- going to get these going to [indiscernible] gary johnson: thank you. [indiscernible] that's, like, 14 of them now. you can't have 14.

do you know who gary johnson is? >> do i know who gary johnson is? i know several of them. >> no. >> never heard of him. ? do you know who gary johnson is? >> leave him alone. you will be saved. only jesus is the way, the truth -- >> i'm sorry? >> do you know who gary johnson is? >> who? >> gary johnson? >> i don't know. i do not know. i'm sorry. >> god bless you. >> excuse me, freddie, do you >> who? no. >> do you know who gary johnson is? >> it's like a mix between gary coleman and magic johnson. >> do you know who gary johnson is? >> i don't. >> he's the libertarian candidate for president. >> congratulations. you did it. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> just google gary johnson and find out. >> all right. we have to take a break. when we come back, facebook is up to no good again. blackberry in "unnecessary censorship" this week. we'll be right back. [ distorted voice ] progressive claims to show people their competitors' rates alongside their direct rate to save you money. but what's really going on? when played backwards at 1/8th speed you c

that was gary johnson. we will get to know his running mate bill weld when we come. -- come back. ♪ ♪ mark: yesterday during the calm before the firestorm that broke around gary johnson, we got a chance to talk with him and his running mate bill welds about their personal stories. we showed you johnson, now we will talk about bill welds. we started about talking about his relationship with friends in high places, highest out of the m democratic party and nominee , hillary clinton. bill: i like them both. bill clinton was my favorite governor in the 1990's. i have known mrs. clinton since she was hillary rodham. we both worked on the nixon impeachment. she was majority staff, i was minority staff. we worked closely on the ground in impeachment of the president. that is an unforgettable experience. i've had good experience with them over the years. mark: tell us about your kids. where do they live and what do they like? bill: i have eight kids. i have been married twice. teddy roosevelt's great-granddaugh

let gary speak! let gary speak! [chanting] gary johnson: oh, there we go. [applause] gary johnson: so health care. [laughter] gary johnson: we have no idea what it's going to cost. when we get the bill, we know that nobody is actually going to pay that bill, right? libertarians always coming down on the side of choice. that you and i as individuals should be able to make choices in our lives that are going to affect our lives as long as those choices don't adversely affect others. as governor of new mexico, i was more outspoken than any other governor in the country regarding school choice, that we should bring competition to public education. in my opinion, if we could unleash a million educational entrepreneurs on our educational system, i think it would have profound dramatic impact on our educational system. [applause] gary johnson: but what is the one thing that the federal government could do to improve on education? it would be to abolish the federal department of education. [applause] gary johnson: and it is all a dollars and cents things. i think w

the answer -- gary johnson. here is a quick guide to the last 24 hours for governor johnson. >> george washington university battleground survey, gary johnson has 11% support among likely voters. plus.tes at 10% mitt romney tweeted it, i hope to see gary johnson and bill wells on the debate stage. we need to join arms with china. >> what would you do if you are elected about aleppo? >> what is aleppo? >> you're kidding. >> it is going to be a platform -- a big platform. >> i am an incredibly frustrated with myself. >> what do you think will happen? >> i have to get smarter. and that is part of the process. aleppoou don't know what is, you can't be president. >> cary johnson had no idea what aleppo was. >> his response was, what is aleppo? >> did you have a brain freeze moment? >> no excuse. i was digging in terms of acronym --aleppo. >> when governor johnson left here yesterday, we were pretty bullish on the progress of the campaign. this is the worst moment in the most attention after the days passed. how do yo

you looked at these pollfor gary johnson? 42 states at 10% plus, 15 states at 15% plus. >> mitt romney tweeted quote, i hope to get to see former gop governors gary johnson and bill weld on the debate stage this fall. >> we need to join arms with china to deal with north korea. >> what would you do if you were elected about aleppo? >> about? >> aleppo. >> and what is aleppo? >> you're kidding. >> no. >> it's going to be a big flap. i promise you. it already is. >> no, i'm heavily frustrated with myself. i feel horrible. >> what do you think will happen? >> well, i have to get smarter and that's just part of the process. >> you're talking about the president of the united states. if you don't know what aleppo is, you can't be president. >> gary johnson had no idea what aleppo was. he seemed surprised by the questions. >> his response is what is aleppo. >> you could look on the map and find aleppo. >> did you have a brain freeze moment? >> no excuse. i was thinking in terms of acronym. >> so when governor johnson left here, we

i'm the biggest gary johnson fan. say, we are taken to pop culture and we believe that you are going to be the best. gov. johnson: you're the best. let's take a picture. thank you. >> gary, can i get your picture? you're the only one who understands the constitution. >> thank you so much. gov. johnson: there you go. >> thank you! gov. johnson: thank you. >> one johnson to another. gov. johnson: very good. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. >> can i get a picture? gov. johnson: yes, let's do it. [laughter] thank you. thank you. >> it is an honor. thank you for being here. thank you.n: thank you for being here. i really thank you for being here. >> love you gary! my first time voting and i just registered libertarians is here. can you send my card. ? sign it anywhere. thank you so much. >> it is a bad marker. she might have a better one. thank you.n: there you go. >> can i get a picture of you? gov. johnson: do it. thank you for being here. thank you so much for being here. >> i'm a pharmacy stude

gary johnson, mary. that's probably a good thing 23 you're not going intervene in syria if you don't know where it is or where the cat tall pital . >> first of all, i think we should establishford that he's really not a libertarian. i mean, johnson was a former governor of new mexico. he has many mainstream republican positions. he's in favor of gay marriage which is not a libertarian position. the libertarians say governments should not be involved in marriage. he is in favor -- >> and mary knows libertarians. >> he is in favor of legalizing drugs but largely because he believes that the prohibition on drugs is driving crime at the border and driving organizationized crime and that's one of his big issues. having said all that he is not an interventionist and, you know, that's why he got into trouble here. i happen to think that there was something charming about the way that he responded to can question because gary johnson has some -- i would say a motacom of humility. and the other two candidate -- w

look i want to ask you that you are a big fan of gary johnson. >> i love gary. he is a sweetheart. >> you love the libertarian party. >> there needs to be a viable third party and a libertarian could fill that void. >> i wish people could see that interview because it was going so well and then he was a deer in the headlights. what about alepo? >> if somebody says alepo, immediately i think dog food and is my poll rain yen hungry? >> he just sort of threw it out there and it sounds like an acronym. the reason hillary clinton know itself is she bombed the area all-around aleppo. and donald trump talks about where he wants to nuke. >> they are noninterventionists and maybe he does president have to know -- doesn't have to know about the world. >> i think something happened and he heard alex trebek say what is a low exercise price option? i said what is aleppo. >> he said he thought tws an acronym. >> he is fiscally conservative so it would play into it. >> it would. >> what do you think? couldn't he recover by saying, come on, be specific. what about aleppo? >> i

i believe gary johnson already does. ( applause ) gary johnson seems like a bit of a masochist, and it's not just biting his tongue. according to the economist, "he once shut himself inside a freezer to prove he could withstand the cold," and he clamped an alligator clip onto his tongue to show he could withstand pain. which means if he doesn't win the presidency, he's still got a good shot to be in the next "jackass" movie. ( laughter ) ( applause ) he didn't help his chances earlier this month on msnbc's "the coffee joe morning show" when coffee joe barnacle asked him his position on the epicenter of the syrian refugee crisis, aleppo. >> and what would you do if you were elected, about aleppo? >> about...? >> aleppo. >> and what is aleppo? >> you're kidding. >> stephen: yes. obviously, he's just kidding! it's a joke: knock-knock. who's e? 400,000 refugeees. no surprise johnson is polling at nearly 37% among military service members -- because if the president doesn't know about syria, there's no way he's sending you there. ( applause ) i think we just applauded for yay! what are we app

gary johnson and still stein as well. this is actually the second poll to come out today out of the state of ohio that has trump ahead by points. there was a bloomberg poll that was an obama state twice. there was another obama state that is florida, new numbers from cnn out of florida. donald trump moving into a three-point lead over hillary clinton, 47 to 44%. these are likely voter polls. this is one of the things that happens after labor day. they switched from the registered voter to the likely voter models and there is usually an edge for the republicans. they have been good for trump this week. >> there was a poll that showed him ahead. these polls were taken this weekend when she was coming off of the deplorables remark and moved right into this next controversy with the illness. people are looking at that and people are not really concerned about her health so much as the larger trust issue. this builds into that trust issue and people have doubts. >> speaking of polls, you wrote about one. there is a new poll ou

i know you just talked with gary johnson. >> i did. he stuck his tongue out at me among other things. >> i saw. >> we also had an extended conversation. we talked about millennial voters. it's a real area of weakness for hillary clinton, and her campaign knows that. a lot of millennials are looking for an alternative to the two-party system so, they're looking to gary johnson as a third party potentially. obviously colorado also voted to legalize marijuana so gary johnson -- >> natural. >> doesn't have flaws he might in other states. other states might consider that to be a flaw. colorado, the republicans i talk to in colorado, i feel like colorado is pretty far gone for hillary clinton. i will say that. i remain skeptical of polling that shows the race seriously tight just because even when i talk to republican members of congress out in colorado, they say, you know what, we're flash hillary clinton has this. >> that shift has been happening far while and he is not the right candidate to bring it back. >> before we let you go, i know

( gary johnson ) "no." gary johnson -- is getting a lot of flak for his answer. but -- he isn't the first presidential candidate --to slip up on a question. a look at some equally embarrassing mistakes -- coming up and critical cancer screenings. but congressman heck voted to defund planned parenthood and was willing to shut down the government over it. heck opposed roe v. wade and voted to criminalize abortion. congressman heck is what's wrong with washington. dscc is responsible for the content of this advertising. johnson slipped up on a question-- about syria,. but he's far from the first presidential candidate -- to make a similar mistake. c-n-n's jeanne moos reports. < --reporter pkg-as follows-- we dare you to try and look away even if you've seen it ten times already. ( msnbc anchor ) "what would kidding?" ( gary johnson ) "no." it instantly gave birth to #what is aleppo. granted, 11 out of 14 people we asked on the street. ( woman on street ) "what's alpp couldn't identify the syrian city at the epicenter of the refugee crisis. ( reporter ) "what is alep

gary johnson and bill weld. gary: i don't think the threshold is too high, but the issue is we are not included in any topline polls. johnson, trump, clinton, that doesn't occur, period. if we were on the top one smart, with the at 20% minimum. i said it humorously before and i mean it, if mickey mouse for the third name included with trump and clinton, mickey would be at 30%. mickey is not on the ballot in all 50 states and we are. john: if you accept the notion that 15% is the standard you are trying to reach, your advertising and a lot of western, mountain states, right? why spend money in sparsely populated states instead of going national? bill: we are at 15 percent, 19%, 25% in those states. the republican cochair on the commission of debate say it may be running well above 50% in swing states. gary is running in double digits in 40 states. he was at 13% yesterday in the washington post he leads among millennials, he is second among independents. it is not like we are way down there. the 15% number is arbi

, and gary johnson is a real choice for them, and for them it's a cons choice. they're -- >> even with his recent screw ups and not being able to name a world leader and aleppo? i guess the increased attention to that has raised his profile. >> more television time, more press. got his sixth major newspaper endorsement and when you talk -- >> the "chicago tribune." >> a big one. so when you talk to voters who are thinking about voting for gary johnson, the question is why should that disqualify him if he can't remember aleppo when the other candidates have problems with setting up e-mail serves and fat shaming and a former miss universe. nascent disease that as a game-change or game-ender for gary johnson. >> it's going to be interesting. >> very interesting. >> real quick. does he take away -- gary johnson -- more votes from hillary clinton or donald trump? >> some polls he takes away about the same amount. but there was a reuters poll, hillary clinton in a head-to-head hat 44%, donald trump had 38%. when you add the other candidates to the mix, particularly ga

gary johnson: absolutely. the way things are ratcheting right now, if they announce the debates in seven or eight days, that could reverse itself. so, nothing can be in concrete because this is a moving target. i will tell you, we have a lot of momentum going here. if you were to choose anything happening in your candidacy, it would be momentum. and momentum does not reverse itself. john: when you said announce the debates, you mean it will be in the debates? mark: who is playing donald trump in your debate prep? gary johnson: i think that bill will. john: who is playing hillary clinton then? [laughter] bill weld: we have all of her briefing books. mark: we would love to have you on all the time. do you feel like the media is giving you enough access to the airwaves to make your case? gary johnson: there is an insatiable appetite in the man -- and the media right now. i was just saying, have you seen the abraham lincoln political video which is now the most watched political video of all time? it came out 10 d

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gary johnson's team the past. and they had to have at least ,5% of the national electorate using the average of five selected polling organizations' most recent publicly reported results. that is the sticking news -- that is the sticking point. the board determined that the polling averages called for in the third criteria are as follows -- hillary clinton, 43%. donald trump, 40.4%. gary johnson, 8.4%. and jill stein, 3.2%. andrdingly, hillary clinton her running mate, tim kaine, and donald trump and his running mate, mike pence, qualified to participate in the temper 26 presidential debate and the october 4 vice presidential debate perspective way. no other candidates satisfy the criteria. the criteria will be re-applied to all candidates in the second and third presidential debates. that is from the commission on presidential debates. you can imagine the reaction shortly afterwards. press release that came from gary johnson's campaign. he said that "i would say that i am surprised that the commission on presiden

they will be offended when they find out who gary johnson is. and sub tweets that go on a bulletin board. if i did that you would be so screwed. and the first ride along suitcase lets you zoom through the airport at five miles an hour. i guess it will come in handy after you are exhausted from the tsa questioning you on why your luggage is making such a loud noise. >> can you be beautiful and deplorable? the answer is yes. kristen tate. and he is doing a lot better than his brothers, poor and penniless lowry. it is rich lowry. she interviewed more celebrities than the lapd. entertainment correspondent, jill dobson. and he looks like adrian brody reading mean tweets about his nose. next to me is comedian dave smith. let's start the show. >> mary jblige interviewed hillary clinton. the multi-platinum artist sat down with the politician for her radio show on apple music. the interview airs on friday, but apple has released a preview. >> ♪ always be polite. and never, ever run away. ♪ is it a gun is it a knife ♪ >> eventually she got down to a

gary johnson doesn't have the benefit of the doubt. he's new to this. the majority of the country still probably doesn't know who he is. they don't know the exact polling numbers. in a north carolina poll today he's polling 4% in that state. he's trying to crack the magic 15% barrier to get on the debate stage. when you're trying to make headway with voters who don't know who you are. you're trying to introduce yourself to them you don't make a gaff like that right after you shake their hand. >> let's get back to the question of, you know, the two party system and has it failed us? we all know that these two presidential candidates, the two primary presidential candidates, democrat and republican, have historic negatives. people distrust them. people dislike them. so it would seem this would be the year for an opening for a third party candidate. and yet, you know, as was just mentioned gary johnson and his running mate are polling below 10%. >> right. i think the two party system, it looks like a failure this year because of the two major candidates ar

the three words haunting gary johnson tonight. let's go "out front." >>> good evening, i'm erin burnett. bitter battle, hillary clinton, donald trump in the biggest clash of the campaign so far launching nasty personal attacks on who is fit to lead america at war. tonight clinton slamming trump saying he's scary and dangerous. >> it's hard to forget what trump did last night. it was a test and he failed it. he trash talked about america's generals saying that they have been, quote, reduced to rubble. he suggested he would fire them all and hand pick his own generals, since he knows so much about what it takes to be a general. >> trump firing back citing clinton's use of her private e-mail server saying she put the nation at risk. >> this is yet more evidence that clinton is unfit to be your commander-in-chief. by the way, the whole kocountry saw how unfit she was at the town hall last night where she refused to take accountability for her failed policies in the middle east. >> now this battle coming as a new poll shows trump and c

and gary johnson was hyped up on foreign policy. >> who is your favorite foreign leader? name one foreign leader you look up to and respect. anybody. >> mine was shamon paris. >> i'm talking about living. any continent. canada, mexico, europe, asia, south america, africa. name a foreign leader that you respect. >> i guess i'm having an aleppo moment. the former president of mexico. >> anybody in the world you like. anybody. pick any leader. >> the former president of mexico. >> which one? >> i'm having a brain -- i'm having a brain freeze. >> who is your favorite foreign leader? get him off the okay, fine. save yourself. can't argue with that. >> okay. let's -- it's time for "the lid." panel is back. joy, steven, susan, wow. >> poor bill weld. it's starting to set in here. he's traveling with this guy who's not ready for prime-time. chris matthews, i have to give him credit, he will come up with that one question that will just break you. and he brought up aleppo -- >> to chris' credit here, he's also -- look, this is a guy who just loves politics and thinks, come on! why

we have evan mcclellan, gary stein and kevin johnson. when we talk about the independents, do we think some of the independents might breakt as an independent as opposed to going for trump or client. >> it's an interesting that i peoplent have to make when theye thinking about their vote this toss up between do i want my vote to compound, will it count with to one of these third-party candidates? or many i wasting my vote? should iou make a decision. this is not me, these two unlikeable candidates.able i think that's where a lot of the elect tort is divided. i really believe that if the committee on debates lets gary johnson into the debate, he's the one that's in the closest range, but not close enough to e let him in.im i think if they let him intoto that debate we may see more people willing to give gary johnson a chance. right now some of his numbers may be a little bit lower. he wasa li a republican governo. he he is a fiscal conservative,t socially liberal.bera > they don't know him. >> exactly. i think it will be very interesting

a vote for gary johnson is a vote not for donald trump. i mean, there is a certain number of republicans are going to gary johnson instead of trump. and that's their choice. their choice is not hillary clinton, gary johnson, or donald trump. it's trump or johnson. don't the democrats want them to pick johnson? >> i actually kind of view it a little bit differently. i think people are choosing gary johnson in this race because he is not hillary clinton or donald trump. and if i'm in the hillary clinton war room, i do think this is a little bit of a problem. because, look, in 2012, obama was getting 60% of the millennial vote. now she is getting just 40%. and one that really gets under my skin is when ahear clinton allied democratic establishment portraying millennials as these entitled cry babies. i actually think that millennials could be the north star and the moral compass for the democratic party. and that's for a few reasons. one, much more progressive than any other voting generation. two, much more diverse. 44% of millennials are non

this is gary johnson from detroit news. they don't regret that endorsement. >> thomas, you put it very well. it was an an tti-trump endorsement. he has more credentials than some of the other third party candidates and there is a lot more than just jill stein and gary johnson. you are asking who gary johnson is gearing the most from. he's taking evenly from hillary clinton and donald trump from our polling. when you add in the johnson/stein vote that's taking a little bit now. >> mark murray, great to see you. >> we have nbc live all day coverage coming up on october 4th, on tuesday. we'll be live in virginia beginning at 9:00 p.m. eastern and don't miss our 9:00 p.m. eastern with our post debate team. once again, back to new hampshire where we are keeping a close eye with donald trump's event. we are expecting to see the gop nominee in a moment. we do expect remarks from bedford momentarilmomentarily, is, arriving. we'll bring it to you hot when it happens. >>> it is time for your business entrepreneur of the week. mike ca

but i have to say, i admire gary johnson for doing one thing. for owning it. and for saying, yes, he should have been more prepared. he apologized, he should have known this. >> let's watch this. >> he owned it and he moved forward. >> he did that. this is him on the view. >> no excuse. i was thinking in terms of acronym, aleppo. that was no excuse whatsoever. >> i think it's a disqualifying statement, frankly. >> fair enough. i will say that it is a process, and i respect the process, and for those that believe this is a disqualifier, so be it. >> never heard a candidate say that. that was pretty big of him. >> he has likability. >> that's honesty. i mean, that's a big -- takes a big person to admit you're wrong and you apologize. >> especially when you contrast with somebody like donald trump who has never in his life apologized for anything and probably never will. >> especially when he short circuited, right? >> you can tell, by the way, that gary johnson is actually lying about the acronym part because if you watch that clip over again and he says, what i

what is the gary johnson plan to keep that from happening here? >> what's i have been saying for months since i entered into this is the biggest threat in the world is north korea and the fact at some point these intercontinental ballistic missiles are going to actually work. here it is, clearly, they are advancing that. to deal with north korea, to deal with syria, this has to happen diplomatically. >> what about isis? diplomacy with isis really isn't the option here. you're talking about the possibility of somebody getting radicalized who lives in this country already carrying out one of those attacks like we've seen. what do you do to prevent that? >> to pretend that politically you're going to prevent someone from committeeing suicide, from committing a horrible act that has been inspired by isis, i mean, is that really a fairy tale that anybody can believe? >> what are you going to do to reduce the risk as much as possible as president? >> we've talked about that we would be vigilant in that role, creating a task force. look, the fbi intervie

i agree with gary johnson. he's on 50 ballots and polling better than ross perot did. >> he's not polling better than ross perot. >> when he got back in the race in '92 in the summertime. race. the fact that the debate commission stacked by the two political parties rigged it in such a way they can't get on stage it doesn't help the country. >> the debates used to be run by the high -- league of women voters. i think we need a debate with the third party candidates who rise to 2% or 5%. however as bernie sanders said too much at stake. >> we're talking about mark cuban and gennifer flowers. being invited by the campaigns and not gary johnson? >> there should be a debate with the third party candidates because you need those ideas in our bloodstream. >> there should be a debate about the fact we have american cities with people on the streets literally trying to burn them down and nobody is talking about that in the context of the debate. the clinton campaign can do more on that issue and set it out. gary johnso

gary johnson: no. patrick: johnson issued a statement saying he blanked adding, it happens and it will , happen again during the course of this campaign. joyce: a rescue mission is approved to free two men, one american, kidnapped by insurgents in afghanistan. u.s. special forces from seal team six performed a halo jump, which is a high altitude jump ground. seven enemy fighters were killed. the hostages, though, were not there. no u.s. personnel were injured. search teams still combing through the rubble of last month's earthquake in italy, find a cat still alive. the cat was stuck under rocks from a collapsed house. it was taken to a vet with a broken jaw. the 6.1 magnitude quake killed 300 people and injured hundreds more. >> 3, 2, 1, and liftoff of osiris rex. joyce: it's like a plot from a movie. tonight, nasa launched a space probe to chase down a potentially dangerous asteroid that could one day collide with earth. the unmanned probe will take a sample of the asteroid, and, in a u.s. space first

maybe gary johnson is the place i land. i don't know how anyone could say that if you don't know where aleppo is, you can't be commander in chief, period. >> yeah. guys, i was not even listening to the interview and just saw this bottom part of the screen that said, what is aleppo? then i went back to listen to it. and i asked mike barnicle, did you pose it in a way that he didn't hear what aleppo was? and then when i heard that you just literally asked him his position on aleppo, i'm shocked you have an american politician who served as a governor, who also is running for the country's top office who is going to have an impact on what happens in syria turn around and just not even know what is aleppo. and as mike was pointing out, aleppo is not some random city in syria. it's not -- it's not just a small village. this is where the fight for syria is being fought. it has so many implications. geopolitically and internationally. it is mind boggling he would ask that question. >> joe, i'm going to jump in just because mark ha

let me try to defend gary johnson. asking a libertarian to name the leader of a government they like is a difficult question. if you asked me to name a leader of a foreign government i don't like, i could rattle off 50 right now. that's like asking the average american person to name a mob boss you don't like. judge napolitano: chris matthews set him up. >> is that a setup? the real answer is -- come on, mr. trudeau of canada because he's dreamy. why are we pretending it's anybody else. it's canada. judge napolitano: to your expertise as a political consultant does, that help him with the millennials and libertarians? because they feel as dave said or hurt him because he couldn't come up with a name? >> are people voting for gary johnson expecting him to be president or casting a protest vote or in fact a vote to make a statement? and to the extent they think he's going to be leader of the free world it hurts. i don't think that's what they're expecting, they're expecting to send a message to the other two about how aw

and i know the talk is it, eventually gary johnson will fade, gary johnson will fade. it's september 15th. >> it is, but i do think gary johnson will fade. >> same thing about donald trump, as i recall. >> i don't know if i ever said. i think he will fade. but like i mentioned earlier, you see a more concerted effort by the campaign, bring out the effort who really do resonate with millennials. barack obama, joe biden, and when you look at the policies that hillary clinton is putting forward, attacking the issues that millennials really care about, i think you'll start to see those numbers shift. >> i wonder on the millennial front, though, matt, if, you know, to me the best asset of the millennials or one of the digs at millennials is this idea that, a, they're impatient and want to be disruptive. >> i find it very disruptive -- >> who's the most impatient, disruptive candidate in this race? one, it's trump. voting for gary johnson is an impatient, disruptive thing to do. hillary clinton is not a disrupter. i wonder how much that hurts her. >> she's a very institution

>>> gary johnson snagged a huge endorsement. the libertarian nominee has the backing of one of the most iconic conservative newspapers in all the land. nick gillespie is here on that. >>> a daughter is suing parents for posting her pictures on facebook. put down the camera. time to get freaky. >>> after hillary's bad week of deplorable pneumonia, the question is how will it affect her in the polls? delusional hillary surrogates were pushing the narrative the former first lady is such a hard-working giver, she would tirelessly work herself to death. while donald trump tightly managed and messaged by his new team and juggernaut gary johnson sapping millennials and educated whites, a pounding at the polls. the latest "fox news poll," you can see the erosion from six weeks ago when she was at a healthy nine-point advantage and donald closed the gap to one point within the margin of error. her campaign not on life support and she definitely needs a new prescription for victory or looking at a long november. to the toss-up states, the

so, this was damaging for gary johnson. the reason why is so much was made fun of about -- you ended up rick perry on his big oops moment because he couldn't name a third -- he was able to name the first two but couldn't nape the third one. here you have a situation where gary johnson couldn't name a single world leader he admires. when you're talking about does somebody have the chops to be commander in chief and be in foreign policy and have a good view of the world, that kind of answer just doesn't cut it. >> and does this latest gaffe to you, mark, say something more broadly about the state of third-party candidates in the political climate? >> yeah, you know, i will say -- we kind of go back. we've had some strong or notable third-party candidates in the past. of course, you ended up having ralph nader in the 2000 election, you had ross perot. normally these candidates who are third-party folks don't have a big governing experience. gary johnson is an exception. he's a former two-term governor of new mexico. but jill s

urging voters to instead cast a conscience vote for gary johnson. meanwhile johnson is polling at 7 78 -- 8% in cnn's poll of polls. and especially doing well with millennials, a key voting bloc the clinton campaign desperately needs. >> in you vote for someone other than hillary or if you don't vote at you will, then you are helping to elect hillary's opponent. and the stakes are far too high to take that chance. >> the polls show johnson achieving the threshold of support needed to become eligible for the presidential debates and some wond we are these gaps how he would perform in front of an audience of potentially 80 million viewers. buzz his campaign continues to fight for a place on the stage. they tell me tomorrow they plan to protest the commission of presidential debates at the d.c. offense. >> thank you very much. let's get back to the panel. a lot of people think this is a disqualifying gaffe for johnson. what do you think? >> i -- yes. if it were one. maybe it was excusable that it was a moment but they went on and on. and what is so fru

coming up, is gary johnson's aleppo blunder a finishing blow to his campaign? our michael smerconish has some thoughts. he weighs in next. ♪ ♪ you got an early-morning-dad side, ♪ ♪ooooks like those braids aren't easy to tie. ♪ nope. ♪ a "how do i retire at 50" side. ♪ hang in there, dan. ♪ "sure, you can keep the kitty" side. ♪ ♪ that's why there's nationwide, ♪ ♪ helping to grow and protect your many sides. ♪ ♪ nationwide is on your side. >>> all right. so you just heard from libertarian vermoice presidenti candidate bill weld. was the aleppo misstep by johnson a disqualifier? for more on this and much more, let's bring in cnn political commentator and host of cnn's "smerconish," michael smerconish. good morning, michael. >> good morning. >> so the aleppo thing where gary johnson didn't immediately know what was being referred to with aleppo, is that a hiccup, is that a disqualifier? >> i think it's an embarrassment. i think the timing is terrible because we're right now in that crunch period as you and chris have pointed out where

(gary johnson/(l) presidential candidate) okay, got it, got it." johnson later released a statment saying in part: "i immediately was thinking about an acronym.. not the syrian conflict. i blanked. can i name every city in syria? no. should i have identified aleppo? yes. do i understand its significance? yes." the committee discussing..... the proposed -1- point -9- have some major issues to tackle.... in the next week. this.... as leaders work to defend against.... unforeseen costs. 13 action news reporter.... bryan callahan... has the latest on the debate. while all eyes are on what could rise from this desert lot... today the question that took center stage... is who would pay to improve the surrounding roads to make sure the 65- thousand fans could get to the stadium on sundays. 03.49.45.00 "i don't want this $750 if this committee is willing to go with that to go up to $800, $850, $900." when project would be factored into the estimated $1.9 billion dollar cost of the proposed nfl stadium... developers didn't have an answer. 20.53.17.00 "i don

is gary johnson the real teflon candidate? democrats fear no matter how zany his act is, here is "reason" magazine editor at large, matt welsh. i follow you on twitter, you are like a one-armed paper hanger, this is my guy, i'm sticking with him, won't go down in the polls, are you still sticking with him? >> yes, i'm planning to vote for him, i live in the state of new york, i believe in free trade. we have too much expansionist foreign policy, it's a no-brainer to vote for someone who espouses limited government ideals. not that hard for me to do. what's interesting about aleppo and other things, his support at 8.5%, the entire summer. what happens to third-party candidate, during summer support falls in half. he has gone down half a percentage point in two, three weeks but almost entirely a function of the race tightening and people freaking out. charles: i've seen in the polls where he's gone up. hillary is losing support a lot of it is not necessarily going to donald trump, he's getting as much of it as she is and i marve

. >> do you think gary johnson should be in the debates? >> i think they have generally speaking my view is if people reach a certain level, i think it's 15% they should be in the debates. >> you think that level, that 15% is a fair metric. >> it's probably too high. >> you think it should be lower. >> it probably should be lower than that. >> so should gary johnson be on the debate stage with clinton and trump. >> i think senator sanders he wasn't talking specifically about gary johnson and he was speaking in general. in general if you reach a threshold you should be on the debate stage. bernie sanders ran as a democrat because he knows that a democratic candidate is the best chance for us to keep the white house come this fall. he's not -- he's supporting secretary clinton because of those same reasons. i think the threshold is there. we've got the rules. we'll see if gary johnson or anybody else makes the cut. >> go ahead. another surprising thing is the richmond times dispatch, it's editorial -- what am i can looking at here. this is in