. , andnk he does understand this campaign has certainly brought up the importance of cyber security between secretary clinton's e-mails and the hacking of the dnc and so forth. the importance of cyber security, i think, is evident even to the candidates who otherwise might not pay attention. if you look at the republican platform, it is clear against -- clear in calling for a more aggressive posture against foreign attackers. it mirrors some work we put out this summer. calling for a more forward leaning approach that both looks at sources of cyber attacks, attributes them, and, where appropriate, retaliates on countries that are engaged in a attacksenabling such -- or enabling such attacks by criminal groups. i wrote something for aei yesterday, we have not yet experienced a serious kinetic cyber attack in the united states. what we have experienced is sony, small ball, maybe. for a reallytial serious connecticut attack is there, if you take what happened on friday of last week, which was a very widespread attack. happening forat the financial system, or a different kind of attack

trade andnk about trade at any cost, but i am not for trade at any cost. and when wer trade think about tpp -- and i guess --re going to that again when you think about tpp, it is so important that the dollars made on a trade bill like that actually benefit the hard-working people of the northeast iowa district and i'm here to tell you that the tpp favors very few at the very top. i think when we have trade bills, it is a must to reward people on whose back the work is done so that is why i will continue to be against trade bills that are fair trade. your time is up. supportman, would you e-verify? do the laws regarding legal immigration the to be changed as well? mr. blum: my opponent is against it. back to finish my original answer on immigration, we need to update the e verify system. people inproblem with southern california. i think the reason they come here is some of them come here because of the welfare system. we need to clamp down on employers and update the system. people that are already here , i am not in favor of deporting them. however, they

am trying to create a culture of thinkers in aei culture of readers and a culture of communicators andnk you can't create a culture one lifetime. not the way that i want to see it in the type of ideas that i would like to see go viral.. these things take time. i always had much love and respect for the dynamic administrators and teachers who want to change these things. this is capitalism. do you know what social reproduction is?s to sustain capitalism you must create a permanent underclass and you do that through policecr forces. you do that through education and is right in front of our faces when they say the things they say he's a conspiracy theory guy. call him crazy.nspira but it's the same issues that have been going on year after year in and out. at what point do we say it is a mistake and start saying these things were put in place for a reason and it's up to us to change them because the y system is working really great for the people that created it.syst [applause]. >> i guess the last question i would like to ask is a very hot button issue which we see right now and it deals