belva, so nice to have you back here in your home. it was your home here for 20 years. >> it's your home. >> well, thank you. >> the pressure of being here is still here when you walk on the sets with the lights, yeah. >> well, i hope there's not too much pressure now to talk about gwen ifill. such a wonderful woman. when did you meet her? >> well, i met her long distance like a lot of people, but it was because in my early years in television, i was one of the first blacks to do blah blah blah, so i was permitted to go to washington to campaign for more minorities in media. and of course she was working in various jobs, the post, and so on and finally on tv. so i became known to her as this person from the east coast. and my admiration grew and grew as she expanded and became the wonderful icon that she became in our industry. >> she worked at all of the key places that you and i would have loved to work at, right? the top newspapers, the top organizations, nbc news as well. >> right. >> how did you think she viewed journalism, her r