. >> we are talking with bradley birzer professor of history and we are talking up at the buck "russell kirk: american conservative." >> 1951 from buckley. >> was there a connection between the bucs? >> it was an interesting year for conservatism. when the great social philosophers the same age as kirk published the quest for community starting in 1953 when it was published, other books came out, fahrenheit 451, another great science fiction novelist wrote the demolished man. i think kirk's was most important because it was accessible to all kinds of people but there was a lot going on in 53. it was a kind of miraculous year and it made conservatism respectable in a way that it hadn't been for generations. up to that point it had been liberalism and as either conservative or radical until you have people like buckley two years later so all of that was happening at once. the science of politics and 52 and lee strauss in 1953 so it was an incredible year in all kinds of ways. >> was the conservative movement and actual movement at that time? >> that is a great question. if it was a moveme