. >> joining me now charlie sykes and robert reich who served under president bill clinton. you and paul ryan diverged in the woods. you could not support donald trump for a variety of reasons. i was persuaded that they were genuine. paul ryan stuck with him because he basically said the things that paul ryan and charlie sykes believe in, the division of america from domestic policy agenda is going to get in there with donald trump and lo and behold donald trump runs on some bizarre amalgam of ethno nationalalist backlash or dickensian tariffs, are they going to get the paul ryan plan? >> you know what? i have to tell you, i would hope so. but i doubt it. paul ryan and donald trump are on opposite poles of the conservative movement, opposite poles of their view of america and of their sense of the role of government. i understand the concern that somehow this is going to be a unified front, but you know, as maxine waters did actually point out, you can't trust anything that donald trump says. what he says and what he does have been so different all year long. and you wonder

. >> narrator: among them her friend robert reich, clarence thomas, and bill clinton. they were all in professor thomas emerson's civil liberties class. >> i remember that every time professor emerson asked a question, hillary was the first hand in the air, and when he called on her, she always got the answer exactly right. i was about the second or third hand in the air, and i half the time got the answer right. bill clinton missed most of the classes, as i remember. i think he was off doing political work. and clarence thomas never said a word. well, i would say it was sort of a kind of metaphor for where we were all heading and how we all prioritized our lives. >> narrator: for the group at the law school, it seemed inevitable that one day, bill clinton and hillary rodham would get together. >> when they meet, hillary's the one who's the celebrity. hillary is the one who's been in magazine. bill is dazzled. >> hillary from the beginning fell into the spell of bill clinton's charisma, and clinton saw in hillary a woman who was his equal or better in terms of intellig

reich, an academic who has never actually had a job. of whove got the choice is going to make the long drive out to new jersey to meet him, i think he is going to be leaning toward people with experience. he said, i know more about the tax code than anybody else because i'm an insider. basically, yeah, i've been avoiding taxes my entire career, so that's why i'm the one to fix it. someone to turn state's evidence. [laughter] jonathan: for the markets, you have the potential policy coming down for the hedge funds. , for them andook their strategies, is that the most important for --point for them, cutting the corporate tax? fabio: vastly, vastly important. cut the corporate strategy and infrastructure spending. think about what a different world that is. you are building bridges versus cleantech funding. it is an entirely upside down metric relative to the kind of stimulus you might have seen under hillary. this is probably old school, concrete, bricks, mortar. versus where you would have positioned your portfolio under a hillary approac

the reason i say that is because i am trying to read a book about robert reich and capitalism. --o not think donald trump he will not be able to do much of what he says he is going to do. only because capitalism needs to be re-tweaked. capitalism such that a person who let's say people who voted for donald trump with a high school diploma, they need to go out and return it to something else and make the money that they are making. there is just so many factors involved. npr the otheron artificial intelligence robots -- you think robots are taking jobs now, automation taking jobs that- they said that robots are going to really be taking a lot of jobs. unless mr. trump can do something about that -- [laughter] i don't see anything that he can somehow capitalism can -tweaked, that it can take care of for help the middle class person be able to train into something else and find a job. host: we will give him the chance to respond. thank you for the call. we appreciate it. guest: the caller is largely right. mean, i'm sure donald trump not have an answer to the robot issue, and i do